Skip to comments.MITT ROMNEY: GAY PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE IN BOY SCOUTS
Posted on 04/26/2012 11:40:58 AM PDT by DesertRenegade
As support for gay mom and former Boy Scout troop leader Jennifer Tyrrell contines to pour in from across America, it's important to reflect on those who have been saying all along that moms like Jen should be allowed in the Boy Scouts. Including Republican Presidential candidate Mitt Romney, who said in a 1994 debate:
I believe that the Boy Scouts of America does a wonderful service for this country. I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.
Romney was a member of Boy Scouts of America's National Executive Board at the time. Romney's belief that "all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts," echoes the opinion of over 146,000 People who have joined Jennifer's Change.org action calling on the Boy Scouts of America to end its long history of discrimination against LGBT people. Tyrrell was ousted as scout leader of her 7-year-old sons Boy Scouts troop simply because shes gay.
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That was one of the hilariously sad comments about the story — the guy who said “so, they’ll let in sexual molesters but not gays”.
Like, what do you think a MALE SEXUAL MOLESTER OF BOYS IS, if not “gay”?
Of course, they don’t “let in” sexual molesters either, but it is so funny to see people deny the truth that men molesting boys is a gay problem.
Romney sure doesn’t make it easy to vote for him.
The quote was a direct answer to a specific question asked, because he was associated with scouts, so he was asked it he would push to have them change their policy.
You are right about that. That is why parental involvement needs to be mandatory. I guarantee you that if one of our Scouts came onto another scout and there was proof, he would be out of the troop.... of course, we are a home school troop and we tend to have a lot more responsible kids and parents.
He clearly excluded the Boy Scouts from Olympic participation because of their belief. That clear enough for you?
I wonder if he is a true blue Mormon? And I certainly have no respect for Mormon doctrine.
I say no kid is a homosexual unless some one makes him that way. Teacher Scoutmaster pervert parent all working for the same master.
How does 2% of the population have such power?
Funny how the Mitt-wits parse the first part of his sentence, but they never seem to try to parse THIS.
Go right ahead, conservatives...vote for this clown. Goode is looking better and better...
Gov. Romney, did you exclude the Boy Scouts from the Olympics because of their policy on homosexual Scout Leaders?
President Obama, would you or have you excluded the Boy Scouts in any events or functions because of their policy not to have Homosexual Scout leaders? Have you ever discriminated against the Boy Scouts because of their policy?
In Part 1 last week, I discussed a series of evidences regarding how President Obama is leading the White House pack in distancing his administration from the Boy Scouts of America.
As I pointed out, he has delayed Eagle Scout certificate signings, denied the invitation to go to the BSAs 100th Gala Anniversary, downplayed his acceptance of BSAs honorary presidency, dodged official White House communications about the BSA, not defended the BSA against cultural attacks and diminished his all-around role as BSAs honorary president.
And, to boot, Obamas administration has... read more
What about the future for the Poles and Israelis?
It probably predates Al but he wrote some mighty fine songs and did some great works. He was born on a sharecropper farm on the other side of the Arkansas River from me down at Spiro, Oklahoma in 1905.
I guess they moved the annual gospel sing from Springdale, Arkansas to Lebanon, Missouri.
For a Church of Christ boy he sure did like accompaniment with his songs.
“My decision keeps being confirmed. Thank you, God.”
Mine, too. I’ll let the loons who cannot distinguish between a candidate with an “R” behind their name, and a true conservative deal with this. I will not vote for this guy.
“Anyone in with me?”
I’m with you. I will write in Sarah and look forward to voting down ticket.
What a crock. I am sick and tired of people believing Obama can destroy the U.S. It will NOT happen.
At most Obama will cause events to happen that will make the US government paralyzed by the States and people being forced to ignore it's edicts. People will quickly realize the US is a bloated paper tiger. At that point it can be rolled back quickly. It's reach with the EPA, etc will be eliminated.
The US will not decay into Civil War or Mad Max scenarios.
Mitt will do nothing to change the destination, only the timing.
Mitt will gladly expand the power of the EPA with regards to AGW and Carbon management.
With Mitt in there the same "collapse" will likely occur and ALL the blame will be on Conservatives. For the entire time Mitt the Rabid Statist is in power, he will be called a right-wing Conservative. Let the RATs take the fall for the end-game.
Exactly, it's the same crap the GOP-E has been trying to foist on us for the last few election cycles....it won't work this time....they screwed up, and they know it.
Technically, when it comes to adults, it's capital 'V' Volunteers and Professionals that the BSA was officially concerned with (back when there was an official policy commonly available). Gay adults could help with their children, but they couldn't serve in any position that requires completing a BSA application to be a volunteer. Some of those Volunteer positions, such as unit committees (Pack, Troop, Crew, Team Committees), or District Commissioners (and so on) don't involve working with youth, but they're Volunteer positions. Positions such as Den Leader, Cubmaster, Assistant Den Leader, Scoutmaster, Varsity Coach, Venture Crew Advisor, etc., are all capital 'V' Volunteer positions.
For youth, the rule dealt with leadership and stated:
Boy Scouts of America believes that homosexual conduct is inconsistent with the obligations in the Scout Oath and Scout Law to be morally straight and clean in thought, word, and deed. The conduct of youth members must be in compliance with the Scout Oath and Law, and membership in Boy Scouts of America is contingent upon the willingness to accept Scoutings values and beliefs. Most boys join Scouting when they are 10 or 11 years old. As they continue in the program, all Scouts are expected to take leadership positions. In the unlikely event that an older boy were to hold himself out as homosexual, he would not be able to continue in a youth leadership position.
Leadership tenure isn't relevant to advancement for Tiger Cubs, Cub Scouts, or Webelos - but it is for Boy Scouts. By denying leadership positions to gay Boy Scouts, the BSA was permitting them to stay in Boy Scouts, but not to advance to Star, Life, or Eagle Scout.
Five to six years ago, the official position of the BSA regarding homosexuals was removed from the bsa.org site.
Man, those poor kids are being used as nothing more than props.
The boy looks like he’d rather be anywhere but there...
Her smug expression tells me all I need to know.
How’s the recovery coming along?
No. Just no. No gay scout leaders, and no Romney for any longer than it takes to get B Hussein out of OUR White House, if Mitt is even of any help with that.
Well, here we go...
I hope, Dear God, I hope this doesn’t link to “rumors,” but rumors spread by former Mormons, of abuse of boys in “Utah”.
Would Romney trust one of his 5 sons with a homosexual scoutmaster? Does the BSA really want to have their own version of the pedophile priests scandal that happened in the RCC?
Virgil Goode Jr.’s sounding like a better Presidential candidate to me all the time.
Still on course for an October orthopedic recovery so the neurosurgeon may then start to do her voodoo. Thanks for asking.
Some Girl Scout leaders are lesbians, too.
Too many. I’m sorry, but I don’t think homosexuals should be around children. Children are very impressionable; some adults are, too.
Some heterosexuals shouldn’t be either.
Children are too precious for them to be put in this environment.
If anything is to be needed, it is to carefully check the potential leaders prior to selection.
Something that just occurred to me is that there are so many illegitimate children or children whose parents are divorced now, that so many boys have no father in the home. Such boys are especially vulnerable to homosexual predators because they are looking for a father type figure, and homosexual predators seek out such boys.
All the more reason to keep the Scouts “morally straight”!
Of course not, but he'd have no trouble trusting yours or mine.
Liberals are like that.
Right. And, I reserve the right not to send any young boys under my concern into the Boy Scouts.
What a shame the Boy (and Girl) Scouts decided to take this path in the first place.
Hmm, that would be an interesting list to keep.
The s*** sandwich known as Romney is like a giant quadruple decker club sandwich by now.
Glad to hear that things are going as well as can be expected.
Must be the same morons.
Writing in Sarah Palin.
That’s four of us. Anyone else?
There has to be a revolution at the convention.
I’m sick to my stomach about Gingrich dropping out and leaving us with Robomney.
Sick. Maybe I have to take a little break from the news.
Likewise... but, IF Newt does drop out, it is write-in time for me. HOPEFULLY, something big will happen at the convention..
Suuuuree — have more boys molested.
I wonder how he would answer that now, 18 years later. I do not recall anyone asking lately.
EXACTLY. What has he said lately on this issue. It seems odd to me that Santorum was repeatedly and pointedly asked such 'politically incorrect' questions YET Romney either has not been asked these questions or has dodged answering them clearly. What is that all about?
For instance on DADT from 2008: Romney on DADT (Dont Ask, Dont Tell)
2008 Romney on DADT (Dont Ask, Dont Tell)
Question: How do you feel about gays serving openly in the military.
Romney: Thats already occurred and Im not planning on reversing that at this stage. <
Question: But youre comfortable with it?
Romney: I was not comfortable making the change during a period of conflict, by virtue of the complicating the features of a new program in the middle of two wars going on, but those wars are winding down and moving to that direction at this stage no longer presents that problem.
November 9, 2011: Romney meeting with the editorial board of the Des Moines Register.
Here is one paragraph from the Republican platform:
The all-volunteer force has been a success. We oppose reinstituting the draft, whether directly or through compulsory national service. We support the advancement of women in the military and their exemption from ground combat units. Military priorities and mission must determine personnel policies. Esprit and cohesion are necessary for military effectiveness and success on the battlefield. To protect our servicemen and women and ensure that America's Armed Forces remain the best in the world, we affirm the timelessness of those values, the benefits of traditional military culture, and the incompatibility of homosexuality with military service.
So Does Reality Romney support the GOP Party Platform today -has he flipped since being anointed the nominee by fellow RINO's and the MSM?
It seems odd that Romney is willing to lead an effort to overturn one leftist law, taking over healthcare, but not willing to lead an effort to overturn another leftist law homosexualizing the military?
It will be interesting to see if and how the RINO's attempt to change the GOP platform to match the Reality Romney platform. I, and I am sure many, will be watching what they actually do, versus what they say.
WHAT is Romney's position today? Can any of the RINO ABO supporters people tell me?
Do we now need to speak about different time frame Romney's e.g. I prefer the March 15th 2006 Romney over the Spring 2008 Romney, what about you?
This is sad. LOL
And this guy is the best republicans have to offer? We’re doomed.
Assuming there are two legitimate sides to an issue and seeking to compromise between them thereby providing legitimacy to the illegitimate. It is called moral relativity -something progressives do well; the premise underlying encroachment upon our inalienable rights.