Skip to comments.Romney Could Win in a Landslide
Posted on 04/26/2012 12:11:24 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: Look, I know. I'm a lone wolf. I'm really a lone wolf on what I'm gonna tell you. Some of you may be where I am, but within the circle of friends that I have (and beyond that people I know) I'm telling you: I'm practically alone on this. I'll illustrate it for you. I had ten friends -- well, five couples -- in for the annual Spring Fling. It's a blast. It's a combination Big Chill weekend plus it's like-minded people. It's some of the finest intellectual stimulation... This what my guests tell me: It's some of the best intellectual stimulation they get all year. They're with friends. They know it's self-contained and private. They're free to say whatever they want to say -- and, unless I talk about it, nobody's gonna hear about it.
Every night at dinner... Well, actually the whole weekend. It's not just at dinner we discuss these things. It's afternoon out by the pool. It's the morning at breakfast. But specifically one night at dinner somebody... And a lot of these people, a lot of the guests are immersed in politics professionally. I'm not. This is a key. I am not a professional politician. I'm a broadcaster. I, as you know, pay very little attention to political consultants. Political consultants, to me, all exist to accomplish one thing, and that is to sell their candidates on the idea that they and they alone are the only ones who can tell the candidate how to go out and win the independents.
Every presidential election is about the independents.
You know the theory: You shore up your base during the primary, and then after you win the nomination and head into the general election, then you move to "the center," where you have to pick up the independents. What this ultimately leads to is an election where, if the consultants have their way, campaigns are tailored to winning a majority of 20% of the voters in the country. Well, I'm sorry, that leaves me cold. I've never understood it. I've never liked it. I've never intellectually understood what the point is in trying to win a majority of 20% of the population who takes pride in telling you they don't think anything. Now, this is not a put-down of you independents.
I don't want you to misunderstand here. Independents and moderates are two different things. But independents, by definition, don't have any opinions. Independents, by definition, are not tied to either ideology. Sorry, I don't believe that. Whether people know it or not, they are either conservative or liberal. They're not squishy sponges. If you're not conservative and you're not liberal, you are just existing. And you are totally unaware of anything other than your own pleasure. And there's nothing wrong with that. But aiming campaigns at them is something that does not interest me. Now, I am totally aware that there are a lot of people whose lives are totally devoted to their sybaritic pursuits.
But to base presidential campaigns on that has always puzzled me and left me cold. Because I believe you want to win elections on the basis of specific policy that gives you a mandate after you win. And I believe that cheerfully articulated conservatism wins every time it's tried. Consultants do not, particularly Republican consultants. (Well, leave out the liberal consultants because they, of course, would never believe in conservatism.) And so the quest every four years is to go out and get the majority of 20% of these people. And people wring their hands over it, and they worry what the independents are gonna do.
And look at the trap that we Republicans or conservatives have allowed some of us to fall into. And that is, "Any criticism of the left, any criticism of a Democrat -- the Democrats or Obama -- will force those independents running right to the Democrats!" So we tie our own hands behind our backs because we think, "These independents, they don't like confrontation! These independents, all they want is conversation. They don't want confrontation! They don't like raised voices. They don't like passion. The independents don't like opinionated people! Oh, no, no, no, no! The independents like squish. They like mush."
I'm sorry; I just don't buy it. But every consultant goes out and tries to get the gig by selling candidates on how he or she or their team knows how to get those independents. I say all this just as an illustration that I am not a professional politics person. I am not a politically scientist. I will admit this may not... Hmm. Let's put this way. When looking at the presidential race, I don't say, "Okay, well, such-and-such has to win Ohio because he's gotta get to 271. If you don't win Ohio, you have to win Florida." I know it's the electoral vote tally and all that stuff matters, but not to me. Not as far as campaigns are concerned, as far as winning the election.
When you start divvying up the country this way, when you tell a candidate, "You're gonna have to win Ohio."
"Okay, what do you do to win Ohio?"
"Well, you go to Ohio and you figure out what Ohioans want to hear."
Sorry, that defeats my purpose of having across-the-board conservatism for everybody, which I believe is wonderful and great. And is the best thing that's ever been devised for human beings as a means of managing their affairs and their lives, securing prosperity and freedom and so forth. Conservatism's it. And I'm all for teaching it to people who don't understand it rather than pandering to people that don't understand it and give 'em what they claim they want. So if Ohioans (just to pick a state) are interested in the mating habits of the Australian Rabbit Bat and that's the thing that's gonna determine their votes?
Then a consultant's gonna come along and give a candidate the best way to go out and get people to care about the mating habits of the Australian Rabbit Bat. Sorry, I'm just not interested in that. And I don't think it works anyway. And even if you do win doing this, it's not real. And, as you know, I live in Realville. I believe in conservatism. I believe in shouting it. I believe in passionately teaching it, passionately explaining it, passionately living it. And I've got the evidence on my side. This country is the evidence. Our founding is the evidence of the greatness of that particular ideology. It triumphs over all others.
Communism, socialism, Marxism, independentism, moderatism, you name it. That is a lengthy (and I apologize for it) setup to the dinner conversation that I wanted to describe to you. The question was asked around the table: "Do you think Romney has a chance to win?" That was the question everybody at the table was asking: "Does Romney have a chance?" I appreciated the question. It's a great question to get discussion going. But, at the same time, I was admittedly a little appalled by it. Can Romney win? The question is, can Obama win? In my world, the question is: "Can Obama win?" But I understand. Obama's the incumbent. He's got a lot of power.
There are a lot of things an incumbent president can do that a challenger can't do. He can forgive mortgages. He can forgive student loans. He can give away the country. I understand that. But conservatism has overcome that stuff when properly articulated, properly utilized in a campaign. Conservatism works pretty much every time it's tried, particularly against this kind of liberalism. Never before in my lifetime have we had the opportunity to draw a greater contrast. Anyway, a couple of the guests are professional politicians. They have been involved in running campaigns, and they started answering the questions in that context.
"Well, you got 235 electoral votes here. You need 270. North Carolina could be big. Ohio, too. Romney's gonna have to..."
All of this consultant esoteric stuff, and I'm just listening to it. And it sounds impressive. And it is. It sounds like the person answering the question is a lifelong expert in this stuff. It's very impressive, if that's your business. And then everybody else took their turn at answering the question, and almost everybody was filled with insecurity, lack of confidence over whether or not Romney could win. And finally somebody said, "Well, Rush, what do you think?" And I went through my little, "Look, I'm not a professional at this. I'm not a political scientist. Counting votes, securing votes, that's not my business. My business is attracting an audience and holding the audience for as long as I can so I can charge confiscatory advertising rates, and that's not the same thing as getting votes.
"That being said, I think Obama's gonna lose in a landslide."
And their mouths fell open! And these are all us, folks.
By the way, don't misunderstand. None of this is criticism. If anything, I'm trying to tell you how out of the mainstream of thought at this particular dinner I was. Nobody else at the table thinks that Romney is gonna win in a landslide or Obama's gonna lose in a landslide. I didn't say it's going to happen. I said it could. The way I look at things, Obama could lose this big, and I went through my riff of the problems the White House is having, the polling data that they have that shows them scared. I illustrated my belief that they're scared by citing examples of what Obama's doing and how he's doing it and where he's going and what he's saying, how he can't run on his record. There's not one positive thing that's happened in this country since he took office that he can cite.
So in a sane world, in a just world, which isn't the one we have. We don't have a just world. We don't have a sane world right now, but if we did, Obama would be laughed out of office. I also said there's a big, big vote out there lying to pollsters. Pollster calls you on the phone, you don't want the pollster to think you're a racist so you tell 'em that you approve of Obama's job performance and you might even vote for him. I said, "I'm not predicting it, but I won't be surprised if this is a blowout." And I cited the 1980 campaign as an example. I said, "Effectively we're going through Jimmy Carter's second term here, only worse." And I'm mentioning this to you only because I believe it. And also I'm mentioning it to you because it explains why I am not wringing my hands over Romney and his flip flops.
Look, at this point it's academic anyway. Romney is the nominee. There's nothing that could be done about that. If you don't like it, if it disappoints you -- and I understand, look, the Tea Party, big 2010 midterms, it would have been great if we'd of had a full-fledged conservative that could have gotten this nomination, but that didn't happen. I told these people I think Romney's gonna end up surprising a lot of them. A lot of them were negative on Romney, his tendency to flip-flop, his baggage of things he said in the past. I said, "I've seen some evidence of Romney running a much, much different campaign than McCain did that will have many more attacks on Obama and his record than McCain ever had the desire or guts to engage in. And I think you all are gonna be surprised," I said.
RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, Mitt Romney, with all of his material advantages, has not spent the last four years, six years of his life in seedy, run-down motels only to roll over for Obama after Labor Day. John McCain was content to be nominated. (imitating McCain) "That's right, Limbaugh, that's right. Looks great on the resume, that's right." Romney is determined to be elected. This is not a faux campaign. That is going to make a huge difference.
Now, we've got polling data out here, and I've got it coming up in the audio sound bites. Remember all this war on women stuff. This is just to put these consultants in their place. Remember I mentioned to you that the Republican establishment wanted me to shut up about all this war on women, don't go there. They wanted me not to talk about the social issues, "Don't do it, Rush, please, it's gonna scare the independents." During this whole past six weeks, the war on women and all this phony stuff that the Democrats mounted, Romney is leading huge in independents right now.
So we have an opportunity to dispel a myth. And that is that criticizing Democrats sends independents running right back to Obama. Folks, there is no reason for people -- this is not a standard, normal, run-of-the-mill, every-four-years presidential election. We are losing this country. People are losing their freedom, and they know it. They are losing their opportunity for economic advancement, and they know it. They see the debt piling up, they know what the tax rates for themselves and their kids and their grandkids are gonna be, and they don't like it. This is not an average, run-of-the-mill, every-four-years presidential race. We're losing the country, and people know this, and they don't want to lose the country.
The days where independents would get mad at Republicans for being critical of Obama and run to the Democrats, there's no reason to run to Obama. The only people Obama's gonna have are the people he's already bought and the people he's gonna be able to buy between now and the election. But there's nobody that's gonna run to Barack Obama who's not already there because of policy, because of track record, because of competence, because they want more of it. Not one single person wants any more of this. Not one.
RUSH: Now, let me finish on this Romney stuff for the election before we move on. And understand: This is April 26th, and anything can change. I'm telling you what's in my mind and heart right now, and I will admit to you that a lot of what I'm telling you is something I really hope for. I'm not fooling myself. I'm not in denial. I am not ignoring reality. I am sharing with you where I hope the people of this country are. And I also am sharing with you where I think the people of this country are. But many, many people disagree with me, particularly when I say Obama could lose in a landslide. For Obama to lose in a landslide it means a lot of people are gonna have to vote for Romney.
And there are people who don't see any enthusiasm for Romney.
And I can't deny that.
There are some people that have zilch enthusiasm for Romney. I've always believed here that to win an election, you have to have people voting for you. And I believe that here. I don't think a landslide's gonna happen simply because people are voting against Obama, although in 2010 that's what happened. In the midterm elections, with not a single Republican name on a ballot anywhere, nationally -- of course, there were House races and so forth -- that was an anti-status-quo election. And it was deep, and it was big, and it was down the ballot, and the Democrats lost in excess of 700 seats in the House, in statehouses, all the way down to town councils.
It was big.
And it's worse now than it was then. Now, one of the theories -- ah! One of the FEARS is that there are many millions of conservatives who so distrust Romney that they just won't vote, is that they are unhappy with the way the nomination process ended up and they're not happy with Romney. They're not enthusiastic, and they just might stay home. They just might sit at home and not vote. There are people who fear that that will happen. There are people who think that no matter how bad Obama is, Republicans don't have the answers, either.
Not conservatives don't have the answers; Republicans don't have the answers. And I will concede these hardcore Republican operatives and the consultants and so forth, I do think they're like everybody else in the Beltway: They live in a bubble, and they don't know what's going on outside the Beltway. They think they do, but they don't. And I think too many of them are counting on people like me to gin up enthusiasm for them.
They're counting on Obama to gin up enthusiasm for them rather than doing it themselves. I don't think that they grasp the lack of confidence in them among Tea Party conservatives and Tea Party Republicans. So anything can change between now and then. I just wanted to share with you the dinner party story and what I said. There was one other guest who agreed with me. He thought that Obama was gonna go down big, and I think it's still entirely possible.
Most polls are mid 40’s for both canidates with 10% undecided. 7 last 8 Presidential elections, 90% undecideds go to challenger.. I don’t think these polls will change much between now and election day, so I believe Romney will win by 6-8 points.. It will be landslide.
Indeed. I have to assume powerful psychedelic drugs were involved at the time of posting. Truly one of the more bizarre posts I've read lately. I still can't figure out where the identity theft fraud fits in with the Chinese counterfeits and "giggers".
It’s been well known that marketers have promoted a form of feminism, and lately gay man spending is their new target of promotion. Rockefeller, Dale Carnegie, all these wise guys who could not come up with anything for the money out there went into Voodoo. It’s not ignorant.
It is obvious to anyone with an ounce of observation to get the picture that the fiat money is given to government employees for them to spend on the private. However many end up hoarding and the banks are accused of hoarding. The money spent in air after a cycle of spending goes back into banks, overflowing them with useless cash. Suckers.
I actually know a secretly die hard communist organizer who is a priest who is voting for Romney and telling just that to his aghast liberal Obama loving congregation. He is from some communist country and says he does not want to be part of an America turning into the disaster that these countries became. He has 401ks and what not to take care of, his friends back home tell him he is selfish, and he does not give a crap.
There may be a point buried in here somewhere, but you are basically posting gibberish.
You speak for yourself...and yourself only.
Your Rush envy is strong. HA!!
Rush is Rush.....That said I've learned more from Rush...than any other radio host.
I've never ever heard of you....and I've been here a long time.
Those who support Mitt Romney are sacrificing every principle this free republic was founded on upon the altar of (mis)perceived political expediency.
It’s a full surrender from the get-go. So, any illusions of “winning” anything are nothing but a mirage.
May their chains rest lightly upon them...
Romney getting elected is only about 25% of the problem, assuming he can hack it against the Chicago Mob and the entire United States Government.
The real problem with Romney is, he'd govern like Poppy Bush and Gerry Ford, and like George W. Bush's disastrous second term, when he had Denny Hastert in the Speaker's chair passing bridges to nowhere and Mark Foley calling House pages for dates.
Then we'll be back to another 'Rat, and this time it could be Hillary. And, of course, Slick.
Pet owners who horribly misstreat their animals ....
I remember when I was a kid living in Newfoundland where my dad was stationed (he was a radar officer, a captain working on the Pine Tree Line), another family got the new posting before we did for another station back in the States.
They had a young dog (a cocker, I think) and a small car, and so their solution was to obtain a dog carrier from a company that made them. It was designed to strap to a rooftop luggage rack, and it had a polished all-aluminum shell about the same dimensions as a big Samsonite bag laid-down, only taller, roofed over against the weather, and was ventilated and had a front "picture window" about 8" x 15" in the front of the carrier. I thought it was pretty neat and could see myself traveling happily in it. The carrier had typical bedding for an animal and was a good solution for transporting pets on long crosscountry journeys.
I think Romney had something similar, an especially good solution if the dog was having problems with incontinence. Correct me if I'm wrong, I think he said it was.
Republican conservatives nowadays are like the marks at a casino. They’re blinded by the lights and lulled into a stupor by the sounds and after awhile don’t even notice that over the long haul they’re losers even when they “win.”
If Obama's returned to office, that priest might have to move fast to keep Obama from confiscating it.
Retirement funds are a source of resilience in the bourgeoisie. Can't have that. Nobody can be allowed to have "f.u." money.
I don't know about Rush rolling over for Mittens, or working for him. He did a show a few weeks ago that people didn't like -- I didn't catch any of that one. But he hasn't been beating the bass drum for Willard like Dennis Prager, Michael Medved, Ann Coulter and some others.
I think he's too early to be saying semi-nice things about Romney, though -- me, I'd maintain stony silence rather than say anything complimentary about that self-satisfied, slime-dealing s.o.b. -- and I'd appreciate it a hell of a lot of Rush and the rest of the commentariat would be good enough to have said instead, "look, we've still got about 400-800 undecided delegates out there, and Willard has nowhere near his needed bag."
I want an open convention. Let Willard try to get it -- but this business of candidates throwing in the towel, or rather of billionaires like Foster Friess throwing in for them, long before Texas, New York, and California vote, is unfair to rank-and-file Republicans. It's a gallon tub of crap ice cream.
I predict Obama will win HI, IL, and CA. That may be about it.
I’m not a Romney fan.
We can certainly have some long time FReeper hold our monies.
I'd love to bet you that Rush's listener's won't leave in "droves". And neither will his sponsors, if Obama should happen to win. ( I agree with Rush....it will be a landslide against Obama...but not "for" Romney )
I suppose we should have to define "droves"....but I'd be willing to bet you $5k. Are you game?
And frankly...I don't think you really listen to Rush....
Pretty much agree.........
So,now you don't just want Obama out, you want Romney to have a landslide mandate?
I think an anti-Obama landslide is more likely than a pro-bama landslide. But I expect a close race.
My hunch is that you're correct.
That's a very good point, because despite the enhanced Mormon turnout, NV is the weakest link in my scenario.
I'm hearing critters here are openly saying Obama has to go. I highly doubt Romney will win MA, but if he comes within 6-10% here, Obama will get thrashed nationally.
“I see Obama getting blown out electorally;”
I wouldn’t go that far. Through a combination of demographic changes and increased mobility among people, conservatives and liberals have been sorting themselves out and the states are more polarized than in 1988. The days of 30 state being competitive are no more, only about ten will be truly be competitive, fifteen at most.
I pray that this country hasn't been damaged as badly as I fear it has been...damaged by the corrosive and yet hypnotic dependence on government largess.If my fears haven't yet been realized you'll probably be proven correct.If they *have* been....
I still maintain Obama will get blown out. The bluest of the “Blue” states (including CA) will vote Obama, but the “Purple” states should/will go GOP*.
People are hurting and they will vote for survival.
*Again, barring some spectacular event(s). And I don't put anything past the Rats.
But just remember, even the “gimme” crowd runs out of other people's money at some point.
“It all depends on the white vote and the turnout, especially in the bible belt. If Romney gets enough of them to show up for him to cancel out the black vote, he will win.”
Kudos for being a realist.
In the end, “the white vote” is going to be the factor that makes the difference in this election.
It was shortly after the South Carolina primary. Mitt was in absolute panic mode. Drudge went full bore in support of Mitt. In the days leading up to Bloody Thursday, more and more Drudge headlines were anti-Newt.
On 1-26 it reach a peak. Drudge had something like 13 negative articles on Newt. He headlined that Newt attacked Reagan in a 90s speech.
It was reference to a youtube video.
Rush deferred to a staff member and Rush stated with conviction that the negative quote of Newt's was NOT taken out of context. Something in the way Rush stated that made me uncomfortable. I went and listened to the entire youtube.
My jaw dropped and I got very angry. At NO point in the Interview did Newt down Reagan. The simple fact is that Drudge's headline was completely out of context. It was a media smear.
I was very angry at Drudge for the evil smear and quite upset with Rush because I could tell he was uncomfortable going along with the LIE that it wasn't out of context.
I was so livid that I stopped listening to Rush since. Shortly after I stopped visiting Drudge's site.
The next few days Rush tried to back track and did a poor job. Conservatives were right to be angry at Rush.
I thought I would miss Rush but actually I am must less stressed. I stopped watching FOX about six months ago and enjoy things better.
There is nothing about Conservatism that Rush can teach me. I don't need him and consider him just a good spokesman for Conservatism.
Rush would NEVER risk anything big in his life to expose and do he best to destroy the GOP-e. He could have early do his best to pick a Conservative and push him/her. At the same time he could have relentlessly pointed out the fraud that is Mitt.
He didn't do it because I suppose the Money is more important to him by far than helping to save our Republic. That is his choice and I understand. I do believe Rush has a very overinflated opinion of himself.
Free Republic is my main source of Conservative information.
I’ll take worrisome over absolute hell any day. Worrisome can be corrected.
Is RUSH considered GOP elite?
I would think not.
What do you guys think?
So what are you going to do if mitt absolutely astounds me and picks Palin for VP.
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“Now, one of the theories — ah! One of the FEARS is that there are many millions of conservatives who so distrust Romney that they just won’t vote, is that they are unhappy with the way the nomination process ended up and they’re not happy with Romney. They’re not enthusiastic, and they just might stay home. They just might sit at home and not vote. There are people who fear that that will happen.”
Rush...it isn’t a “fear” it is a fact. I’m one of those “conservatives” that won’t vote for Romney in a general election. I don’t see him as a significant improvement over Obama. Voting for him just guarantees the GOPe will continue to push losers (even IF he wins, he is still a loser) like Romney on us. I will vote for conservative GOP Senators and House members in the fall election...but I won’t do ANYTHING to help put Romney in office.
He may well win, but it won’t be with my help. Or my wife’s either.
If Romney wins it won’t be for the voters any more than it was for the Primary...and he still hasn’t won that but you’d never guess otherwise.
Romney won’t need to worry about the numbers....neither will Obama. The two are hand in hand when it comes to where they will take this country....Romney simply wears a different mask.
I can see Obama going down big...and it won’t be because of Romney’s policies nor who he is....I think many Democrates are going to vote for Romney. ..and they’ll make up for those who are choosing not to vote for Romney.
Another brilliant “social” conservative who wishes to doom the country to four more years of Obama. How’s his views on abortion sit with your values? A third party vote or no vote is simply a vote for Obama and his view on social values.
That will never happen. Mitt's son and daugther-in-law dressed as Todd and Sarah respectively for Halloween. They did it to belittle Sarah. Mitt, his family and staff HATE Conservatives. Sarah is likely their #1 enemy.
Remember his surrogates starting destroying Sarah in mid-Sep08. Conservatives that vote for Mitt have no idea of the hatred that Mitt has for Conservative ideas and Conservatives such as Sarah.
I want Obama out, by the largest margin possible, to forestall the usual RAT voter fraud and to keep the RAT media from using their “elected by a minority of Americans” meme. I just wish the haters would focus on who’s actually destroying America at this moment.
If you’re not a Romney Hater, then why are you repeating MSNBC’s talking points?
MSNBC gets it right about Romney.
The headline is just silly.
There is no enthusiasm for Romney, I see a lot of people who “support Romney” not bothering to get out of bed that day. They support their hockey team too, but they never buy the tickets.
I firmly believe that, despite what the pollsters and the LSM are telling us...
This is 1980 all over again. For those who weren’t able to witness that era, it’s much worse now.
We won with Reagan, and they lost. However, the legacy that Obama is leaving will be a tremendous challenge to overcome.
I’ll hold the money! And enjoy doing so. ;o)
However, my money is on Osage Orange.
Your problem with Rush is very personal. You need to get over it unless your life has been infallible.
Rush’s problem is that he’s been in the public eye, and has developed many enemies on the left.
Maybe you are one...
The President thanks you for your support!