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Romney Could Win in a Landslide
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | April 26, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 04/26/2012 12:11:24 PM PDT by Kaslin

RUSH: Look, I know. I'm a lone wolf. I'm really a lone wolf on what I'm gonna tell you. Some of you may be where I am, but within the circle of friends that I have (and beyond that people I know) I'm telling you: I'm practically alone on this. I'll illustrate it for you. I had ten friends -- well, five couples -- in for the annual Spring Fling. It's a blast. It's a combination Big Chill weekend plus it's like-minded people. It's some of the finest intellectual stimulation... This what my guests tell me: It's some of the best intellectual stimulation they get all year. They're with friends. They know it's self-contained and private. They're free to say whatever they want to say -- and, unless I talk about it, nobody's gonna hear about it.

Every night at dinner... Well, actually the whole weekend. It's not just at dinner we discuss these things. It's afternoon out by the pool. It's the morning at breakfast. But specifically one night at dinner somebody... And a lot of these people, a lot of the guests are immersed in politics professionally. I'm not. This is a key. I am not a professional politician. I'm a broadcaster. I, as you know, pay very little attention to political consultants. Political consultants, to me, all exist to accomplish one thing, and that is to sell their candidates on the idea that they and they alone are the only ones who can tell the candidate how to go out and win the independents.

Every presidential election is about the independents.

You know the theory: You shore up your base during the primary, and then after you win the nomination and head into the general election, then you move to "the center," where you have to pick up the independents. What this ultimately leads to is an election where, if the consultants have their way, campaigns are tailored to winning a majority of 20% of the voters in the country. Well, I'm sorry, that leaves me cold. I've never understood it. I've never liked it. I've never intellectually understood what the point is in trying to win a majority of 20% of the population who takes pride in telling you they don't think anything. Now, this is not a put-down of you independents.

I don't want you to misunderstand here. Independents and moderates are two different things. But independents, by definition, don't have any opinions. Independents, by definition, are not tied to either ideology. Sorry, I don't believe that. Whether people know it or not, they are either conservative or liberal. They're not squishy sponges. If you're not conservative and you're not liberal, you are just existing. And you are totally unaware of anything other than your own pleasure. And there's nothing wrong with that. But aiming campaigns at them is something that does not interest me. Now, I am totally aware that there are a lot of people whose lives are totally devoted to their sybaritic pursuits.

But to base presidential campaigns on that has always puzzled me and left me cold. Because I believe you want to win elections on the basis of specific policy that gives you a mandate after you win. And I believe that cheerfully articulated conservatism wins every time it's tried. Consultants do not, particularly Republican consultants. (Well, leave out the liberal consultants because they, of course, would never believe in conservatism.) And so the quest every four years is to go out and get the majority of 20% of these people. And people wring their hands over it, and they worry what the independents are gonna do.

And look at the trap that we Republicans or conservatives have allowed some of us to fall into. And that is, "Any criticism of the left, any criticism of a Democrat -- the Democrats or Obama -- will force those independents running right to the Democrats!" So we tie our own hands behind our backs because we think, "These independents, they don't like confrontation! These independents, all they want is conversation. They don't want confrontation! They don't like raised voices. They don't like passion. The independents don't like opinionated people! Oh, no, no, no, no! The independents like squish. They like mush."

I'm sorry; I just don't buy it. But every consultant goes out and tries to get the gig by selling candidates on how he or she or their team knows how to get those independents. I say all this just as an illustration that I am not a professional politics person. I am not a politically scientist. I will admit this may not... Hmm. Let's put this way. When looking at the presidential race, I don't say, "Okay, well, such-and-such has to win Ohio because he's gotta get to 271. If you don't win Ohio, you have to win Florida." I know it's the electoral vote tally and all that stuff matters, but not to me. Not as far as campaigns are concerned, as far as winning the election.

When you start divvying up the country this way, when you tell a candidate, "You're gonna have to win Ohio."

"Okay, what do you do to win Ohio?"

"Well, you go to Ohio and you figure out what Ohioans want to hear."

Sorry, that defeats my purpose of having across-the-board conservatism for everybody, which I believe is wonderful and great. And is the best thing that's ever been devised for human beings as a means of managing their affairs and their lives, securing prosperity and freedom and so forth. Conservatism's it. And I'm all for teaching it to people who don't understand it rather than pandering to people that don't understand it and give 'em what they claim they want. So if Ohioans (just to pick a state) are interested in the mating habits of the Australian Rabbit Bat and that's the thing that's gonna determine their votes?

Then a consultant's gonna come along and give a candidate the best way to go out and get people to care about the mating habits of the Australian Rabbit Bat. Sorry, I'm just not interested in that. And I don't think it works anyway. And even if you do win doing this, it's not real. And, as you know, I live in Realville. I believe in conservatism. I believe in shouting it. I believe in passionately teaching it, passionately explaining it, passionately living it. And I've got the evidence on my side. This country is the evidence. Our founding is the evidence of the greatness of that particular ideology. It triumphs over all others.

Communism, socialism, Marxism, independentism, moderatism, you name it. That is a lengthy (and I apologize for it) setup to the dinner conversation that I wanted to describe to you. The question was asked around the table: "Do you think Romney has a chance to win?" That was the question everybody at the table was asking: "Does Romney have a chance?" I appreciated the question. It's a great question to get discussion going. But, at the same time, I was admittedly a little appalled by it. Can Romney win? The question is, can Obama win? In my world, the question is: "Can Obama win?" But I understand. Obama's the incumbent. He's got a lot of power.

There are a lot of things an incumbent president can do that a challenger can't do. He can forgive mortgages. He can forgive student loans. He can give away the country. I understand that. But conservatism has overcome that stuff when properly articulated, properly utilized in a campaign. Conservatism works pretty much every time it's tried, particularly against this kind of liberalism. Never before in my lifetime have we had the opportunity to draw a greater contrast. Anyway, a couple of the guests are professional politicians. They have been involved in running campaigns, and they started answering the questions in that context.

"Well, you got 235 electoral votes here. You need 270. North Carolina could be big. Ohio, too. Romney's gonna have to..."

All of this consultant esoteric stuff, and I'm just listening to it. And it sounds impressive. And it is. It sounds like the person answering the question is a lifelong expert in this stuff. It's very impressive, if that's your business. And then everybody else took their turn at answering the question, and almost everybody was filled with insecurity, lack of confidence over whether or not Romney could win. And finally somebody said, "Well, Rush, what do you think?" And I went through my little, "Look, I'm not a professional at this. I'm not a political scientist. Counting votes, securing votes, that's not my business. My business is attracting an audience and holding the audience for as long as I can so I can charge confiscatory advertising rates, and that's not the same thing as getting votes.

"That being said, I think Obama's gonna lose in a landslide."

And their mouths fell open! And these are all us, folks.

By the way, don't misunderstand. None of this is criticism. If anything, I'm trying to tell you how out of the mainstream of thought at this particular dinner I was. Nobody else at the table thinks that Romney is gonna win in a landslide or Obama's gonna lose in a landslide. I didn't say it's going to happen. I said it could. The way I look at things, Obama could lose this big, and I went through my riff of the problems the White House is having, the polling data that they have that shows them scared. I illustrated my belief that they're scared by citing examples of what Obama's doing and how he's doing it and where he's going and what he's saying, how he can't run on his record. There's not one positive thing that's happened in this country since he took office that he can cite.

So in a sane world, in a just world, which isn't the one we have. We don't have a just world. We don't have a sane world right now, but if we did, Obama would be laughed out of office. I also said there's a big, big vote out there lying to pollsters. Pollster calls you on the phone, you don't want the pollster to think you're a racist so you tell 'em that you approve of Obama's job performance and you might even vote for him. I said, "I'm not predicting it, but I won't be surprised if this is a blowout." And I cited the 1980 campaign as an example. I said, "Effectively we're going through Jimmy Carter's second term here, only worse." And I'm mentioning this to you only because I believe it. And also I'm mentioning it to you because it explains why I am not wringing my hands over Romney and his flip flops.

Look, at this point it's academic anyway. Romney is the nominee. There's nothing that could be done about that. If you don't like it, if it disappoints you -- and I understand, look, the Tea Party, big 2010 midterms, it would have been great if we'd of had a full-fledged conservative that could have gotten this nomination, but that didn't happen. I told these people I think Romney's gonna end up surprising a lot of them. A lot of them were negative on Romney, his tendency to flip-flop, his baggage of things he said in the past. I said, "I've seen some evidence of Romney running a much, much different campaign than McCain did that will have many more attacks on Obama and his record than McCain ever had the desire or guts to engage in. And I think you all are gonna be surprised," I said.

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RUSH: Ladies and gentlemen, Mitt Romney, with all of his material advantages, has not spent the last four years, six years of his life in seedy, run-down motels only to roll over for Obama after Labor Day. John McCain was content to be nominated. (imitating McCain) "That's right, Limbaugh, that's right. Looks great on the resume, that's right." Romney is determined to be elected. This is not a faux campaign. That is going to make a huge difference.

Now, we've got polling data out here, and I've got it coming up in the audio sound bites. Remember all this war on women stuff. This is just to put these consultants in their place. Remember I mentioned to you that the Republican establishment wanted me to shut up about all this war on women, don't go there. They wanted me not to talk about the social issues, "Don't do it, Rush, please, it's gonna scare the independents." During this whole past six weeks, the war on women and all this phony stuff that the Democrats mounted, Romney is leading huge in independents right now.

So we have an opportunity to dispel a myth. And that is that criticizing Democrats sends independents running right back to Obama. Folks, there is no reason for people -- this is not a standard, normal, run-of-the-mill, every-four-years presidential election. We are losing this country. People are losing their freedom, and they know it. They are losing their opportunity for economic advancement, and they know it. They see the debt piling up, they know what the tax rates for themselves and their kids and their grandkids are gonna be, and they don't like it. This is not an average, run-of-the-mill, every-four-years presidential race. We're losing the country, and people know this, and they don't want to lose the country.

The days where independents would get mad at Republicans for being critical of Obama and run to the Democrats, there's no reason to run to Obama. The only people Obama's gonna have are the people he's already bought and the people he's gonna be able to buy between now and the election. But there's nobody that's gonna run to Barack Obama who's not already there because of policy, because of track record, because of competence, because they want more of it. Not one single person wants any more of this. Not one.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Now, let me finish on this Romney stuff for the election before we move on. And understand: This is April 26th, and anything can change. I'm telling you what's in my mind and heart right now, and I will admit to you that a lot of what I'm telling you is something I really hope for. I'm not fooling myself. I'm not in denial. I am not ignoring reality. I am sharing with you where I hope the people of this country are. And I also am sharing with you where I think the people of this country are. But many, many people disagree with me, particularly when I say Obama could lose in a landslide. For Obama to lose in a landslide it means a lot of people are gonna have to vote for Romney.

And there are people who don't see any enthusiasm for Romney.

And I can't deny that.

There are some people that have zilch enthusiasm for Romney. I've always believed here that to win an election, you have to have people voting for you. And I believe that here. I don't think a landslide's gonna happen simply because people are voting against Obama, although in 2010 that's what happened. In the midterm elections, with not a single Republican name on a ballot anywhere, nationally -- of course, there were House races and so forth -- that was an anti-status-quo election. And it was deep, and it was big, and it was down the ballot, and the Democrats lost in excess of 700 seats in the House, in statehouses, all the way down to town councils.

It was big.

And it's worse now than it was then. Now, one of the theories -- ah! One of the FEARS is that there are many millions of conservatives who so distrust Romney that they just won't vote, is that they are unhappy with the way the nomination process ended up and they're not happy with Romney. They're not enthusiastic, and they just might stay home. They just might sit at home and not vote. There are people who fear that that will happen. There are people who think that no matter how bad Obama is, Republicans don't have the answers, either.

Not conservatives don't have the answers; Republicans don't have the answers. And I will concede these hardcore Republican operatives and the consultants and so forth, I do think they're like everybody else in the Beltway: They live in a bubble, and they don't know what's going on outside the Beltway. They think they do, but they don't. And I think too many of them are counting on people like me to gin up enthusiasm for them.

They're counting on Obama to gin up enthusiasm for them rather than doing it themselves. I don't think that they grasp the lack of confidence in them among Tea Party conservatives and Tea Party Republicans. So anything can change between now and then. I just wanted to share with you the dinner party story and what I said. There was one other guest who agreed with me. He thought that Obama was gonna go down big, and I think it's still entirely possible.

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To: dixiechick2000

AMERICA TO BANISH ZERO

151 posted on 04/27/2012 12:15:53 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; Osage Orange

Rush and Marta’s marriage didn’t work out, but that was a very long time ago. He is now married to Catherine, and is looking great.

Snerdley, who is James Golden, left to pursue his own talk show. He was gone for quite a few years, but is back now.

The oxy issue was an old back injury, and the very fact that you bring it up tells me that you have no heart whatsoever, and are very judgmental and overly critical...and very unforgiving even though he is clean now.

In fact, everything in your post tells me that you haven’t listened to Rush in many, many years or you would have asked questions that are much more current than the already asked and answered questions you posed.

I didn’t need any search engine to tell me anything.

One more thing...as to advertisers leaving in droves...that won’t happen. During the war on women, that didn’t happen. In fact, Carbonite, the highest profile and most public company to pull their adverts, is, once again, advertising on his show. lol


152 posted on 04/27/2012 1:26:49 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: NoLibZone

Absolutely NOT!

He is a businessman.


153 posted on 04/27/2012 1:28:40 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Awesome! I have always loved that graphic!


154 posted on 04/27/2012 1:29:34 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dixiechick2000
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Great Job ...

You're correct on all requested answers ...

BTW ... I wasn't being too hard on Rush via the oxycotin (sp) thing ... I knew that he had never used it as a "recreational drug", just for medical purposes ...

Fortunately, he's behind all that now ...

Elton John sang at Rush and Catherine's wedding ...

Not sure that James Golden did a talk show during his absence ... all Rush had said was that it was "internet related" ...

I've been listening to Rush Limbaugh since about 1994, although the first time I heard of his radio show was about 1990 ...



We'll have to see what happens to Rush and the "Golden EIB Microphone" over the next year ...

Success in media (especially for someone like Rush or Mark Levin) rests FIRST on "respect" ... not always "talent on loan from God" ...

I find it peculiar how Rush lauds Hillsdale College, and the Hertiage Foundation ... and occassionally references the Federalist Papers (etc) ...

but when it comes to "pledging his life, fortune, and sacred honor" ...

as Newt Gingrinch and the Founding Fathers did ...

Rush is more often prefers hosting a celebrity golf tournament somewhere ... on another on his four-day vacations ...



True, Rush did contribute $ 400,000 to his recent charity gig (lukemia) ...

but when you're worth some $ 100 million (or more) ...

that is "cheap chump change" ...



Sometimes I wonder if Rush's slide towards the E-RINO group didn't start whejn Bush-41 invited him and Marta for the overnight stay at the Lincoln Bedroom ...

Well, time will tell ...



Oh, one more thing ...

I've been challenged that my "negative views" about Rush rest on infantile jealousy ...

That's absurd ....

The turning point for me came when Rush Limbaugh allowed that "snarkey, smelly, bad teeth" Englishman Vermonter ...

Mark Steyn ...

during this year's 2012 Florida Primary ...

to visciously attack and belittle Newt Gingrich ...

while ner' laying a finger on the Mormon Celestial God-Child from Bain Capitial ...

Mark Steyn ridiculed Newt especially for the (great) Lunar Colony Idea ... which as an Senior Aerospace Mechanical Engineer who worked on the Space Shutttle ... I "know" is quite feasible ...

Funny ... Mark Steyn (with Rush Limbaugh's permission) ...

never mentioned Mitt's own "space fantasy" ... the Mormon planet Kolob in the Constellation Cancer ...

Mark Steyn ... is a DIRT-SCUMBAG E-RINO-YANKEE as far as I'm concerned ...

and (ahemmm) ...

it was Mr. "Talent On Loan From God" ...

that "repeatedly" gave Mr. Mark Steyn PAID PERMISSION to use Rush's Golden EIB microphone ...

to repeatedly attempt to DESTROY ...

Newt Gingrich ... a "genuine" American Patriot ...



"Thanks" ... Rush Limbaugh ... you duplicious, hypocritical, traitorous RINO dirtbag ...



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155 posted on 04/27/2012 3:14:07 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: ozzymandus; jimrob
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I would gently suggest that the MSNBC "Talking Points" ...

against the scum-bag Mitt O-Romney ...

probably originated at Free Republic ...



Jim Robinson ... Free Republic's founder ... had the COURAGE and CONVICTION to take a hard, principled stand against the SOCIALIST Celestial God-Child from Planet Kolob ...

and has led many people to the FULL TRUTH about "Mittens" ...

with a wealth of information about Willard ... the Pedatory Vulture Capitalist ...



If you're not happy with my accusations and salvos against your "mormon boy" Mittens ...

don't blame me ...

I'm just the Messenger ...

If you can't handle the TRUTH ... perhaps the Daily KOS is better suited for your heart and intellect ...

after all ... the Daily KOS "secretly" LOVES "Mittens" ...



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156 posted on 04/27/2012 3:21:58 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: ozzymandus
I just wish the haters would focus on who's actually destroying America at this moment

Haters?

I find it interesting how so many of the, oh so reluctant, Romney advocates slip into the standard Democrat-Alinsky tactics of demonizing and belittling those who don't see it their way.

Several times in the past, I have challenged Romney supporters to name one (just one) Act, Bill, program or other legislation that was conservative and supported or signed into law by Romney. So far,o one here has been able to give even one example. After four years of a Romney presidency, the federal government will be bigger, more controlling, and further left than it is today. Go ahead, keep on belittling true conservatives while capitulating to the very people who want to rule you.

I refuse to become a Vichy conservative.

157 posted on 04/27/2012 5:14:21 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: MissouriConservative

Romney is as evil as Obama. Neither man is Christian and
both support killing the most innocent, a child in it’s
mother’s womb.

It’s a mortal sin to vote for a pro-abort.

Romney is already showing he is in no way “conservative” on other issues. He supports the homosexual agenda. Sick.

Romney = BHO, worse, at least BHO doesn’t pretend he is
anti-liberal.


158 posted on 04/27/2012 5:34:03 AM PDT by stpio
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To: shelterguy

“I will not vote for the completely liberal mitt.”

~ ~ ~

Where is the little “hugs” figure to post? Way to go
shelterguy.

stpio


159 posted on 04/27/2012 5:37:25 AM PDT by stpio
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To: sand88

You may be overlooking one thing: Rush is, more than anything else, an entertainer. That’s his job, first and foremost.

We all have foibles. Rush is no exception.

But I do enjoy listening to him.

Thanks for the post.


160 posted on 04/27/2012 6:04:00 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: Jumpmaster
A vote for Romney is the only way to get rid of Holder, Sebulius, Napolitano, et al!

And, may I add, sever the ties between the media and the White House as well as deal George Soros a blow.

161 posted on 04/27/2012 6:52:07 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: albie; All

The “Obama” stickers aren’t out in full force like they were this time in 2008.
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Have you noticed that you never see an “Obama” bumper sticker on cars on the way to work in the morning?


162 posted on 04/27/2012 8:18:47 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: StAnDeliver; All

The Electoral Math of 2012 greatly favors the challenger...
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Remember this: The EV count changed in 2010 with the Census. The Blue States lost 11 EVs and the Red States gained 11 EVs. So, subtract 11 EVs from Blue States and add 11 EVs to Red States, that’s a net gain of 22 Electoral Votes for the Red (GOP) States. Am I right or wrong?


163 posted on 04/27/2012 8:29:12 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: StAnDeliver; All

The Electoral Math of 2012 greatly favors the challenger...
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Remember this: The EV count changed in 2010 with the Census. The Blue States lost 11 EVs and the Red States gained 11 EVs. So, subtract 11 EVs from Blue States and add 11 EVs to Red States, that’s a net gain of 22 Electoral Votes for the Red (GOP) States. Am I right or wrong?


164 posted on 04/27/2012 8:29:19 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

If you can’t handle the TRUTH ... perhaps the Daily KOS is better suited for your heart and intellect ...

after all ... the Daily KOS “secretly” LOVES “Mittens” ...
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Look man, I was a Newt guy too. But, it’s over. Newt didn’t pull it out. You have your reasons for disliking Romney. People have as many (or more) reasons for not liking our guy Newt. So, lighten up; it’s over. Romney is the nominee and he will be the next POTUS. Let go of your bitterness. It will kill you before your time to go.


165 posted on 04/27/2012 8:38:32 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: stpio

See Post #165 please.


166 posted on 04/27/2012 8:42:19 AM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Fine, help Obama get re-elected.


167 posted on 04/27/2012 12:11:42 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: stpio

FRiends don’t let FRiends vote RINO.


168 posted on 04/27/2012 12:23:00 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: no dems; All

REPLY #165
“If you can’t handle the TRUTH ... perhaps the Daily KOS is better suited for your heart and intellect ...

after all ... the Daily KOS “secretly” LOVES “Mittens” ...
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“Look man, I was a Newt guy too. But, it’s over. Newt didn’t pull it out. You have your reasons for disliking Romney. People have as many (or more) reasons for not liking our guy Newt. So, lighten up; it’s over. Romney is the nominee and he will be the next POTUS. Let go of your bitterness. It will kill you before your time to go.”
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Hello,

I don’t know if it is “set” concerning Romney? God can
bring about a miracle. And the other evil, BHO could be elected again!

Everyone trust God, it looks dark, no way out, offer a prayer, prayers for a miracle to happen.

I was converted by “private revelation”, I believe in the
messages from Heaven. God isn’t silent especially when the times are getting darker, worldwide, you see the loss of faith.

Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Jesus said: “My people, it is sad to say that the Republican primary fight appears to have gone to the candidate with the most money to spend on it. It is hard for any other candidates to get enough financial support to beat a well funded opponent. Most of the political money went to support the front runner, who was also supported by the main party faithful. In the Presidential election, your incumbent President has a huge amount of money already collected for his campaign. The Republican front runner is just starting to get his fall campaign funded, after spending millions of dollars to get his party’s nomination. Just as money was a determining factor in getting the Republican nomination, so money could also affect the outcome in the November election. The one world people are behind the scenes in directing the outcome of these elections so they will have total control over whoever is elected. PRAY FOR THE BEST GOD-FEARING PERSON to win so he can lead your people out of debt. Pray also for your preparations to leave for My refuges when I give you My warning.”

http://www.johnleary.com


169 posted on 04/27/2012 1:39:41 PM PDT by stpio
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To: stpio

Your ranting doesn’t make any sense. It’s simple. If you vote for a third party, you’re voting for Obama anyway. So you’re committing a “mortal sin” as you call it but throwing your vote away. So either way, you’re hosed.


170 posted on 04/27/2012 3:26:32 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (Voting Anyone but Obama in 2012.)
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To: stpio

I was converted by “private revelation”
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That’s scary. That’s how every cult got started; by a “private revelation”. I did not read past that. Have a nice eternity. Our dialogue is OVER.


171 posted on 04/27/2012 5:31:07 PM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: CharacterCounts

“I just wish the haters would focus on who’s actually destroying America at this moment “

“Haters? I find it interesting how so many of the, oh so reluctant, Romney advocates slip into the standard Democrat-Alinsky tactics of demonizing and belittling those who don’t see it their way. Several times in the past, I have challenged Romney supporters to name one (just one) Act, Bill, program or other legislation that was conservative and supported or signed into law by Romney. So far,o one here has been able to give even one example. After four years of a Romney presidency, the federal government will be bigger, more controlling, and further left than it is today. Go ahead, keep on belittling true conservatives while capitulating to the very people who want to rule you. I refuse to become a Vichy conservative.”

Likewise. ~A.~

“Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established, should not be changed for light and transient causes; and, accordingly, all experience [has] shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.” —Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429

“Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate, systematic plan of reducing [a people] to slavery.” —Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. (*) ME 1:193, Papers 1:125

“When patience has begotten false estimates of its motives, when wrongs are pressed because it is believed they will be borne, resistance becomes morality.” —Thomas Jefferson to M. deStael, 1807. ME 11:282

“Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God.” —Thomas Jefferson: his motto.

“If ever there was a holy war, it was that which saved our liberties and gave us independence.” —Thomas Jefferson to John Wayles Eppes, 1813. ME 13:430

“The oppressed should rebel, and they will continue to rebel and raise disturbance until their civil rights are fully restored to them and all partial distinctions, exclusions and incapacitations are removed.” —Thomas Jefferson: Notes on Religion, 1776. Papers 1:548

“As revolutionary instruments (when nothing but revolution will cure the evils of the State) [secret societies] are necessary and indispensable, and the right to use them is inalienable by the people.” —Thomas Jefferson to William Duane, 1803. FE 8:256


172 posted on 04/27/2012 5:48:31 PM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: MissouriConservative

...”hosed.”

~ ~ ~

I don’t think what I wrote was a “rant” as you called it.
You shouldn’t use vulgar language, it won’t help you convince anyone to your point of view.

God can bring about a miracle if He desires, our country
needs one.


173 posted on 04/27/2012 7:18:44 PM PDT by stpio
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To: no dems

“That’s scary. That’s how every cult got started; by a “private revelation”. I did not read past that. Have a nice eternity. Our dialogue is OVER.”

~ ~ ~

You can believe “private revelation” or disbelieve it, says the Church. My experience with one of them was life changing.

The exception, private revelation disapproved by the Church.

It’s going to take a miracle in this Presidential election. Pray and fast (if you can).
_ _ _

“In cases which concern private revelations, it is better to believe than not to believe, for, if you believe and it is proven true, you will be happy that you have believed, because our Holy Mother asked it. If you believe, and it should be proven false, you will receive all blessings as if it had been true, because you believed it to be true.”

St. Paul said: “Do not quench the Spirit, do not despise prophesying, but test everything, holding fast to what is good. (Thes. 5:19-21)”


174 posted on 04/27/2012 8:24:28 PM PDT by stpio
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To: Patton@Bastogne; Osage Orange

You are a very strange, and angry, person.

I agree with you on Newt, but disagree with you on every word in the last half of your post.

Rush is a business man, first and foremost. That is why he doesn’t endorse anyone in the primary. Why you aren’t able to see that is beyond the realm of my ability to understand.

So, good nite, and good bye.


175 posted on 04/28/2012 12:27:41 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: dfwgator
I'm going to suggest that "The Devil You Know", is so well known as incompetent and radical, that Romney's flaws will look small in the end.

And no, I don't like Mitt, but to say (like some here do), that he is the same, or almost the same as the most incompetent, most left leaning (Marxist), most destructive president we have known, is beyond stupid.

We know Obama will destroy everything we hold valuable, so why is this even a choice to a conservative?

176 posted on 04/28/2012 12:45:38 AM PDT by Lakeshark (NbIttoalbl,cRwIdtaa)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Let's see....you harped on Rush's marriage "problems"..Then his weight "problems", then his drug "problems".

Gee...the exact same thing the left does. Imagine that.

So you want to bet or not?

177 posted on 04/30/2012 8:47:12 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is the most dangerous entity in the United States of America.)
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