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Rove: Obama has the electoral college lead ( Go RINO Go ! )
http://www.politico.com ^ | April 26 2012 | By BYRON TAU

Posted on 04/26/2012 4:06:07 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45

Republican strategist Karl Rove gives Obama the advantage in his first Electoral College Map polling memo

Top line math: that's 284 "safe" or "lean" Obama, versus 157 "safe" or "lean" Romney states.

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To: GreyFriar

I totally agree with you. Rove is warning that no one that wants Obama defeated can stay out of this fight. We need every vote to defeat Obama and work to destroy the entire Democrat Party. I will not post my feelings or prediction of the November, 2012 POTUS returns. They will be surprising, just like the 1980 Reagan/Carter POTUS race. Romney needs to run scared every day, but....then again, so does Obama!!!


51 posted on 04/26/2012 5:03:32 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, political ly!!!)
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To: Artcore
"I'm going to sit this election out!"

I have NEVER sat out an election, and never will while I'm alive.

YOU, the childish one who does as he's told, can live WITHOUT A CONSCIENCE, and just do what you are told, and live with your "CHOICE".

I can live with mine.....I won't vote for a Liberal OR The Messiah.

You're shoveling sh$% against the tide, and are too ignorant to think for yourself.

End of story.

52 posted on 04/26/2012 5:05:37 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

‘Wasn’t Rove plugging for Romney earlier on?’

This story has confused me too. Rove might have been officially neutral, but he certainly wasn’t touting any of the other candidates. We know he is anti-Tea party and the rumors were that he (and all the bush gang) are anti-Perry.

So what gives? Why does he come out with this “analysis” and make his boy look bad?

I actually think Obama is in a good deal of trouble. I think and awful lot of people gave him an awful lot of slack in 2008 and I don’t think he’ll get that again. Plus his base consists of many unreliable voters.


53 posted on 04/26/2012 5:11:21 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: dewawi

My friend, fear not, the anti-Romney Freeper voters that sit on their hands or vote for Obama are such a tiny group in the overall scheme of things, they have no impact whatsoever. If they did, Romney would not be the nominee.

So....be pragamatic & real, if they won’t join in the fight to defeat Obama, let them wallow in their worthless rants and raves. Remember the old saying we used to say as kids. “Sticks & stones make break my bones but ranting, raving words will never harm me”. Onward to victory. The future of your children and America is at stake. ANYBODY BUT OBAMA.


54 posted on 04/26/2012 5:11:53 PM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, political ly!!!)
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To: deport

FWIW PA and OH stand a good chance of going R if the fraud can be contained.


55 posted on 04/26/2012 5:13:06 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: deport

*gasp*

nearly the entire South is in play... We Are Screwed!


56 posted on 04/26/2012 5:17:32 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: prisoner6

You are not alone my brother. They still think that the “Matrix” is real.

LLS


57 posted on 04/26/2012 5:19:34 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Girly men for Romney.

They will save us. Not.


58 posted on 04/26/2012 5:20:42 PM PDT by Christie at the beach (I like Newt and would love to see political dead bodies on the floor.)
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To: dewawi
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Quit your $itchin' about those of us who Despise Romney ...


Just foward your complaints about "the way it all turned-out" to Willard's Super-PAC that spent over $ 12 million "carbet-bombong" Newt in Florida ... by a NEGATIVE SCORCHED-EARTH ad ratio of 65 to one ...


They made their deal with Satan (whom Romney claims is Jesus Christ's brother) ...


Let 'em all burn ...


Willard has some "extremely bad karma" to deal with ...



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59 posted on 04/26/2012 5:25:08 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: dewawi
If it were a matter of a “few” of us not voting for romney... we would be of no consequence... and you would not be discussing us... but were are of consequence and we are not going to vote for romney. We warned the gop/e in 2007/8 and we warned loudly and constantly. reince preibus and the rnc conspired with Secretaries of State to keep mitt's competition off the ballot in states like Virginia... they manipulated the primaries in certain states to allow dims to play havoc in our primary and the played loose and fee with the electors. This and romney the baby killing, gun grabbing socialist spent 45 million dollars doing to Newt and Rick what he refuses to ever do to obama.

LLS

60 posted on 04/26/2012 5:26:12 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: traditional1
Those of us who are biting the bullet and voting for Romney are TAKING ACTION to hopefully rid our nation of the worst president in American history. Sorry, but voting third party or sitting home on election night is beyond stupid. Either of these two choices will be effectively helping Obama win his reelection.

The reality is, our fellow citizens across the country voted for Romney...this is simply a fact. This being the case, we have two choices: Obama or Romney. Romney was my least favorite GOP candidate, but since he's the nominee, i will vote for him. What are you doing? voting third party? Maybe opting not to vote altogether? Yeah, that'll show 'em! you go boy! It's because we are thinking for ourselves and using our God given reasoning skills that many of us here will be voting for Romney. My guy was Newt or Santorum, but they are no longer in the race. Instead of having a little hissy fit like you're doing, we've decided that Obama has to go. The only way he's going to go is if we vote for Romney. And sorry, but I simply DO NOT buy this crap that Romney and Obama are exactly the same. At least Mitt doesn't hate the country and understands business! Obama is engaged in an all out assault on our country. This fact makes your gutless decision to vote third party or sit this one out utterly despicable! If Obama wins, you and others who decided that your self-serving hissy fit was more important that voting for the GOP nominee will hold some responsibility for obamas win, and the destruction of our nation. End of story .

61 posted on 04/26/2012 5:26:33 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Para-Ord.45

Rove has been inhaling the Big Government Republican Establishment incense so long that he has completely flipped out. What little credibility he has left (and it’s not much) is quickly vanishing.


62 posted on 04/26/2012 5:31:39 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.


63 posted on 04/26/2012 5:33:45 PM PDT by 38special (Only fools believe the liberal media)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Voting for Romney in November will be like voting for Santa Claus - you know there is no Santa Claus, and you’re voting for some guy wearing a Santa Claus suit.


64 posted on 04/26/2012 5:34:15 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Artcore

It is not “gutless” to refuse to vote for your man Romney. It is the only honorable course left to those of us who love this country.

If Romney wins, you will live to regret your campaigning for him. He will be worse than Obama because he will support Obama-like policies and recruit RINOS in the Congress to assist him. He will be a bipartisan Obama.

But, go ahead, campaign for your man.


65 posted on 04/26/2012 5:34:54 PM PDT by Tau Food
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To: Para-Ord.45

Romney is Rove’s man. Good luck with that, now that Bush is elected, I’m fallin’ asleep, Karl.


66 posted on 04/26/2012 5:46:09 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Tau Food
“It is not “gutless” to refuse to vote for your man Romney. It is the only honorable course left to those of us who love this country.”
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Hope you enjoy four more years of obama and the final destruction of our country. At least we have a chance with Romney. If Obama wins another reelection, do you really think 2016 will matter? Sorry, but we'll be finished.

Nice try, but Romney isn't our man...he's the GOP nominee. Romney sucks, but he isn't a Marxist and doesn't hate the country. The only meaningful choice against Obama on the GOP side is Romney. I wish this were not the case, but it is our reality! Voting for the third party is a vote frittered away.

At least many of us are choosing to deal with reality, and make decisions based off of this. We don't have time for platitudes!

67 posted on 04/26/2012 5:47:43 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: dewawi; Para-Ord.45; HiTech RedNeck; chessplayer; dfwgator; GOP Poet; Patton@Bastogne; EGPWS; ...
It will be a shame if a few hard core anti-Romney voters stay home and end up giving us 4 more years of Obama.

What makes you think Obama would stop at just 4 more years? If the Democrats don't mind bending the "natural born citizen" constitutional requirement, why not ignore the 22nd amendment too?

68 posted on 04/26/2012 5:47:53 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Artcore

I see. You’re campaigning for Romney, encouraging people to vote for him, but he’s not your man?

You should have the guts to stand up for what you stand up for.


69 posted on 04/26/2012 5:50:56 PM PDT by Tau Food
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To: FreedBird
Oh.... I get it. It is all our fault.

This is the second excrement sandwich I will have had to eat in four years.

I did vote for McCain even as I knew the Messiah was going to beat him. I will also vote for Willard, but I have my doubts he can beat the Commie.

I must agree with one thing, if Obammy is re elected, then this nation will not survive. We will become a Zimbabwe type nation without the exotic jungle.

70 posted on 04/26/2012 5:52:33 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Paleo Conservative

What will YOU do if he doesn’t stop at a second term?

For that matter what will you do if BHO beats Romney? What will you do if Romney wins and continues the socialist agenda...say socialised medicine, increased government, attacks on the traditional family and the Constitution?

I know what I will do.


71 posted on 04/26/2012 6:00:03 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Tau Food
“I see. You’re campaigning for Romney, encouraging people to vote for him, but he’s not your man?’

“You should have the guts to stand up for what you stand up for.”
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OK, one more time; I'll try and explain this so even you can understand it:

We just went through our primary process (you know, that's where we vote for our favorite GOP candidate, where the winner goes on to the general election), and Romney, by virtue of the majority of Americans voting for him, clinched the GOP nomination for POTUS. Ok, still with me? Good.

My first choice was Palin, but she decided not to run. I then became a die-hard Cain supporter, but he decided to drop out. I then became an equally die-hard Newt supporter, but sadly things have not been looking good for him, and just recently decided to drop out. This has left us with Mitt Romney as the GOP candidate. Sometimes our guy (or gal) doesn't win...period. Instead of having a tantrum, many of us decided that in order to remove the Marxist who currently occupies the Oval Office, we would need to vote for Romney. Check the posting history of those of us who've opted to vote for Romney. I'm confident you'll find most of us had a progression in favorites similar to mine.

We're choosing to be adults here and make the most of a difficult situation. I'm taking the advice of Palin, Limbaugh, and Levin: “ABO!”

I'm actually a little embarrassed I took any time to answer your silly question. I know you understand perfectly what's going on here.

72 posted on 04/26/2012 6:04:21 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: LibLieSlayer

YES! TOTAL AGREEMENT! GOP-e were warned! They ignored us and counted on us fallung in line at the end.

NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!


73 posted on 04/26/2012 6:04:51 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6

And I know what other patriots will do.


74 posted on 04/26/2012 6:08:05 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: Artcore

You’re right about one thing - I do understand what is going on here. You are campaigning for Romney here, encouraging others to vote for him.

If he wins, you will celebrate and later you will regret that you campaigned here for him. That’s what’s going on here.


75 posted on 04/26/2012 6:09:54 PM PDT by Tau Food
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To: prisoner6

Hate to burst your bubble, but not everybody is following your lead to engage in utter stupidity by: 1) sitting this election out, 2) voting third party, or 3) writing somebody in when we have a Marxist with a track record of destruction as our current president!


76 posted on 04/26/2012 6:13:34 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore

What you said.
Somebody refresh my memory. What are the names of the represenatives in the house that are members of the Constitution party?
Their members in the Senate?
And the Constitution party is going to put together a national campaign and beat the two entrenched parties?


77 posted on 04/26/2012 6:15:11 PM PDT by hirn_man
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To: Para-Ord.45
I think this might be the hardest election ever to predict:
78 posted on 04/26/2012 6:21:28 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Billyv
Newt didn’t pack anything. He lost. Palin couldn’t rescue Newt.p>
79 posted on 04/26/2012 6:22:39 PM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: Artcore
"Well there you go. Third Parties are always hugely successful! /sarc "

That's what they said about Tea Party candidates until they started winning.

80 posted on 04/26/2012 6:22:52 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

Any third party will be hard pressed to equal the 19% that Perot did when Clinton won with a plurality in 92. And Perot had massive financial resources - far more than any third party candidate will have in 12.


81 posted on 04/26/2012 6:25:52 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Tau Food
‘If he wins, you will celebrate and later you will regret that you campaigned here for him. That’s what’s going on here.”
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Hey genius, if Romney loses you'll celebrate and will regret later that you decided to engage in an action that helped obama get reelected.

It is pathetic watching some folks proclaim: "I'm voting third party!", "I'm doing a write -in!" or "I'm not voting...that'll show 'em!" I guarantee you that you'll regret having obama for a 2nd term more than we'll regret Romney. Look at the destruction he's done in three short years with promises of more. But I guess it's more important for you to vote against Romney. Childish and Pathetic.

82 posted on 04/26/2012 6:27:17 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Stepan12
We will become a Zimbabwe type nation without the exotic jungle.

I'm not convinced of that. We may self divide into free and slave states at some point.

83 posted on 04/26/2012 6:28:21 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: DannyTN

“That’s what they said about Tea Party candidates until they started winning.”
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Um, you do realize that “Tea Party” candidates ran as Republicans...right?


84 posted on 04/26/2012 6:29:31 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore

Well said! Some of the ranting here is frustration but it should not give cause to completely destroy our side.


85 posted on 04/26/2012 6:30:42 PM PDT by ChiMark (chewed up his body for a decade)
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To: ChiMark

I was really disappointed how Newt underperformed in the south. He couldn’t beat Yankee Santorum in places like Oklahoma and Tennessee,


86 posted on 04/26/2012 6:31:18 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: prisoner6

Rinos chose the blue pill, Conservatives chose the red

We see the machine is the monster, and the America we remember is dead

No popularity contests...but a lifelong war we will endure...

GENTLEMEN. Our Kings are Corrupt. So then, let Our Revolution be Pure. :^)


87 posted on 04/26/2012 6:33:23 PM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: Artcore

Hey genius, if everyone who holds their nose and votes Romney would vote 3rd party, Obama AND Romney could be defeated.... Especially if all the nose holders joined the brave patriots and donated and CAMPAIGNED 3rd party.


88 posted on 04/26/2012 6:35:03 PM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: ChiMark

“Well said! Some of the ranting here is frustration but it should not give cause to completely destroy our side.”
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I agree with your observation.


89 posted on 04/26/2012 6:36:28 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: nascarnation
"And Perot had massive financial resources - far more than any third party candidate will have in 12."

Yes, but Perot was a conservative running against a conservative and a liberal. And the liberal won.

In this case, Goode is a conservative running against a liberal and a liberal. He's the only alternative running to the pro-sodomy, pro-abortions, pro-RObamaneycare, anti-gun, socialist candidates.

90 posted on 04/26/2012 6:37:06 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: LibLieSlayer

Ditto. And what I find interesting is for four years nearly every FReeper blasted away at Romney for countless reasons. Well, folks.. we’re convinced. We agree the idea of a Romney presidency is an abhorrent one.

As opposed to elections past, when we donned the clothespins on our noses and cast ballots for marginally acceptable Republicans, we’ve decided Romney personifies that “bridge too far.” And so we’re taking it to heart; Romney’s a finger-in-the-wind politician with no discernible core beliefs.


91 posted on 04/26/2012 6:46:17 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Virgil Goode 2012)
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To: DannyTN

Sarah Palin or Joe Arpaio might get 19% of the vote.
Goode will be in the Ralph Nader range.


92 posted on 04/26/2012 6:48:54 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Artcore
Um, you do realize that “Tea Party” candidates ran as Republicans...right?

True, yet look at how that party sh*ts on them. Hopefully in time they'll see that very clear writing on the wall their ideas and philosophies are at best tolerated and at worst disdained.

93 posted on 04/26/2012 6:50:01 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Virgil Goode 2012)
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To: chessplayer
Enjoy living under communism, Romney haters, because thats what you want and thats what you’re going to get.

You address this as if Romney ever had a chance. He's outfunded 10-1, and Obama has a lock on 260+ EVs as early as April.

And Obama hasn't even gotten started.

94 posted on 04/26/2012 6:52:29 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Virgil Goode 2012)
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To: Artcore
" If Obama wins, you and others who decided that your self-serving hissy fit was more important that voting for the GOP nominee will hold some responsibility for obamas win, and the destruction of our nation. End of story"

Au Contraire, Mon Ami....

You dumbasses who the GOP-E counts on EVERY ELECTION to vote (R) will CONTINUE to put up the Dole's, McCains, and Romney's because they can count on dumbasses to vote (R) no matter what.

I won't vote for Obama; so don't blame me if he's elected...blame YOURSELF and the other fools who vote (R), no matter who it is (just like the voters that vote Democrat, no matter who it is).

You syncophants just don't get it.....

95 posted on 04/26/2012 6:53:23 PM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
this is not the America the Founding Fathers gave their blood, sweat, and tears for

Nope. It sure isn't. America is all about entitlements now.

96 posted on 04/26/2012 6:58:12 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Virgil Goode 2012)
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To: Para-Ord.45

Peggy Noone enlightened me a couple of weeks ago. She expected Mittens would get the nomin because she knew all along how it works. The silver medal winner of the previous nomini process gets the gold medal next time in GOPee. Look forward to the hapless Sanatorium to be the nominee in 2016.


97 posted on 04/26/2012 6:59:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: nascarnation
Maybe, maybe not. But I'm the same camp as Franklin Graham who said...

"The moral issues to me are so important as a Christian, for a candidate to actually oppose God’s standard and then to vote for that person, you are compromising, you are joining in with them. So for me, I just have to draw the line in the sand, I’m not going to support a candidate that supports abortion and same-sex marriage, I will not do it. Unfortunately, you know the President is a nice guy, but I cannot vote for him because of these issues that go against God’s law and against His standard.

You vote for sodomy and abortion if you want to. I'm voting for Goode.

98 posted on 04/26/2012 6:59:23 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: traditional1
Oh, we get it just fine...we know a real Marxist when we see one, and we don't want a second term for his grand finale!
99 posted on 04/26/2012 7:00:05 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: DannyTN
When it comes to a theoretical contest between Romney and Obama it's a race to the bottom ~ Democrats and Republicans find nothing in these two to commend them.

I see an historically small presidential vote this time.

100 posted on 04/26/2012 7:10:47 PM PDT by muawiyah
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