Posted on 04/26/2012 4:57:20 PM PDT by SJackson
NEW YORK – The problem of birds living near some of the nation's busiest airports is coming under renewed scrutiny after two emergency landings in a week and more than three years after the famous ditching of a jetliner in the Hudson River.
U.S. Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand on Wednesday proposed making it easier to round up geese from a federal refuge near Kennedy Airport and kill them, an idea that's meeting opposition from wildlife advocates.
A JetBlue plane bound for West Palm Beach, Fla., made an emergency landing at Westchester County Airport north of New York City on Tuesday. A Los Angeles-bound jet made an emergency landing at Kennedy Airport after a bird strike on the right engine a week ago.
No one was hurt, but Grant Cardone, a sales training consultant who was on the flight out of Kennedy and was filming video from his window in seat 1D as the birds hit the plane, said it was scary.
"I felt like the plane was going to roll over on its right side," Cardone said. "Those five or six seconds were terrifying."
Cardone, 54, said he texted his wife that the flight was in trouble and added, "I love you and I love the kids." Afterward, the pilot managed to stabilize the plane and land.
Gillibrand's bill would empower the U.S. Department of Agriculture to remove Canada geese from the Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge during June and July when they are molting and can't fly.
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Needless to say allowing citizens to hunt the geese and maybe donate some to food kitchens would be a non starter.
Canada geese are rats of the air. Getting rid of a few dozen or a few hundred near an airport has zero effect on their population.
LOL...I just love it when the libtards form a circular firing squad.
Actually, the solution to the problem is pretty simple. Airliners just need the right technology to see when birds are on a collision course. If you can see them, you can avoid them. I know. The buzzard I hit at 500 knots was the one I hadn’t seen. I easily managed to miss all of his buddies that I did see. BTW, the collision put a 2-3 foot hole in the canopy of the F-4 I was flying. And the canopy on the F-4 is about 1/2 inch thick.
The co-pilot flying the USAir flight that went into the Hudson saw the geese, but he didn’t have the presence of mind to put some G on the plane, and pull up to avoid the floxk. Didn’t want to scare the passengers you know. But if he had known early enough, he could have started a gentle pull and missed them easily.
Actually, the solution to the problem is pretty simple. Airliners just need the right technology to see when birds are on a collision course. If you can see them, you can avoid them. I know. The buzzard I hit at 500 knots was the one I hadn’t seen. I easily managed to miss all of his buddies that I did see. BTW, the collision put a 2-3 foot hole in the canopy of the F-4 I was flying. And the canopy on the F-4 is about 1/2 inch thick.
The co-pilot flying the USAir flight that went into the Hudson saw the geese, but he didn’t have the presence of mind to put some G on the plane, and pull up to avoid the flock. Didn’t want to scare the passengers you know. But if he had known early enough, he could have started a gentle pull and missed them easily.
Maybe some sort of grate over the engine intake sized just smaller than the average goose would help.
Kirsten Gillibrand can go f____ herself. Not only is she just a Schumer Mini-Me rubber stamp, without a brain to call her own, but she doesn’t know what she is talking about. The Federal preserve that she would just so casually exterminate the geese out of is Jamaica Bay Wildlife Refuge. It’s one of the gem birding spots of the East Coast.
It utterly breaks my heart, to the point of real tears, that after the July molting season, Bloomberg (may he drop DEAD VERY SOON, the b____d)has the then helpless and flightless Canada geese rounded up out of every NYC park—fathers, mothers, and their babies of the year—and stuffed into metal boxes which are then pumped full of carbon monoxide. It’s not the painless death you read about. You can hear the poor frightened frantic birds beating around inside. And then the parks are ghostly quiet until the fall, when more Canada geese migrate in. I want to shout out to them, “No, don’t make your home here, the Mayor will have you exterminated”, but of course, I can’t. So the only Canada geese one can see then are in the Jamaica Bay preserve. Which she wants to kill.
I have not heard that any program using Canada geese as food for the “homeless” has been successful. That’s just a pathetic way to try and justify the deaths of the geese.
If they didn’t want a bird problem, why did they build airports right near the migratory flightways of millions of birds? Duh. Then they’ll have to kill not only the geese, but starlings, sparrows, pigeons, and any other species which is unfortunate enough to be overtaken by a speeding jet.
"Say what?!"
I’m with you. feed the homeless. (I think only the breast meat is worthwhile)
Anyone who opposes this wants the poor to starve to death.
Mmmmm. Goose. It's what's for dinner. And breakfast.
/johnny
/johnny
DUDE! No! I've got tons of recipes for goose. I use the entire carcass and all the giblets.
Heck, if I had enough of 'em and I processed them myself, I'd use the feathers for pillows and quilts.
Everything but the honk.
/johnny
Normal airline operations don't allow extreme manuevers. But one hostile environment landing in a airliner being used for a troop carrier lets you know that they can do a whole lot more than we ever see in airline operations. I needed to change pants after the first one.
/johnny
These idiots don’t realize grenades are set off routinely at military installations and airports to scare off birds. Its a big deal..
They should hire some hawks.
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