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To: Monorprise; Antoninus
The potential problem with not playing the house's rigged game is that we may lose our collective voice entirely and become politically irrelevant. The GOP, rather than moving back right to get us back on board, may very well just go full steam ahead with a bone in its teeth for the middle-left.

But at the same time, we have got to do something. Conservatives aren't making any headway, we are merely trying to hold ground and losing fast. The country is sinking under the sheer weight of illegals, welfare-saps, EBT-abusers, non-producers/non-taxpayers, and other assorted liberal gimme-gimmes.

The whole thing is just incredibly frustrating.

35 posted on 04/26/2012 10:00:29 PM PDT by Celtic Cross (The brain is the weapon; everything else is just accessories. --FReeper Joe Brower)
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To: Celtic Cross

For all the arguments to vote for Romney there is one that I cannot cross. He is pro abortion. Unlike with Reagan, his claimed conversion is simply not believable. Not at all. Reagan made a calculation that the people whose general view he supported also opposed abortion were right in their overall view and therefore he must be consistent and oppose abortion. He said as much and, as with everything else he said, he stayed with it. Romney would have to reverse himself on just about everything he has supported effectively, as governor and politician, in the past to be considered a conservative. That is possible. Some great conservatives have done just that. But making that total conversion at the beginning of a Campaign then using most of his resources in that campaign to trash the other candidates says that his conversion is false, not that he had any hard principles to begin with, but that his “principles” are wholly in the service of his ambitions and do not inform those ambitions- ends and means and all that.


60 posted on 04/27/2012 5:52:08 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: Celtic Cross

I know exactly what your seeing & feeling , i see & feel it too about our situation. its been like that for a very long time, and as the leftist put more people on the dole we lose ground both morally and financially. Perhaps inevitably this ship will sink and there may be nothing we can do about that.

Logically our only option is to get back to our States, to force decentralization while in the same act(almost inherently) we will be laying the necessarily ground work for a separation should that day come.

Then we will be able to address the issues using either market forces of competition among states for individual people(money & industry) as our allies. Or if our worse fears are realized, we will be prepared to cut ourselves free of the leftist nuts, to recreate in our land the land of the free.


69 posted on 04/27/2012 5:45:07 PM PDT by Monorprise
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