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Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.


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To: bigheadfred

The photo, forget it. I didn’t realize you had no clue it was a deceased relative.


1,161 posted on 04/27/2012 8:10:01 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: central_va
Is it really that hard for you to understand not wanting to vote for the Democrat Lite candidate?

Let me try to explain it to you. You refer to Romney as "Democrat Lite", that would make Obama "Democrat". Right?

Okay. I'm a diabetic. If I would drink "Coca-cola" - it would be very harmful to me. I hate the taste of "Diet Coke", but I drink it because it lets me live to fight another day. Aside from the fact that I shouldn't drink soda pop anyway, and that water is more healthy - I don't like Romney either - I was a die-hard Perrywinkle. I was called names, mocked and had to endure the constant "posse ping list" insults whenever I just wanted to read an article posted about Gov. Perry. Romney was the last person I wanted to see on the ticket.

But now I have a choice of Obama or Romney. If I don't vote for Romney, that's one less vote Obama has to overcome to victory. If you add in the inevitable cheating that will occur - Romney will have to get every single vote possible just to have a chance to defeat the biggest threat to my liberty and freedom that I have ever known.

If Romney wins - we live to fight another day. If Obama wins - it's checkmate. You want to say that I am "flip"? How flippant is it to throw a little tantrum and waste that precious vote on someone that cannot defeat this monster? America will not survive four more years of that.

1,162 posted on 04/27/2012 8:11:20 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: Las Vegas Ron

LOL

No score

NOW

You owe the portapotty company the entire charge to remove you ( a worthless POS) from that facility.


1,163 posted on 04/27/2012 8:13:11 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

PRAYERS, CERTAINLY. DONE.

Thanks much for yours. Being greatly flawed, prayers are wonderful.

God’s best peace, provision, wisdom, leading, protection be yours and those you love.

And to all those of FR of good heart for God and country.


1,164 posted on 04/27/2012 8:13:39 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
I will likely donate half my tithes for this month when my $361 social security check posts on my bank.

Quix...my Lord!!!! Don't spend a penny here. Use that $361 a month for things you need or, if you must, give to your church or other local charity.

Don't you know what a fraud FR has become? $94,000 a calendar quarter for a website?! That's $376,000 a year. I have worked in the information systems field since 1988, so know whereof I speak.

Where is the public accounting? Where are these supposed new servers we keep hearing about? Do you know that Dell PowerEdge enterprise-class servers (to use one example) are cheap? You can buy rack-type servers for as low as $599, tower-type servers for $399, and blade servers for $1034. Dell's high-end servers start at $4360. In other words, about $10,000 to $15,000 will buy two top-of-the-line servers. So where are they?

Here's a link to Dell's server web page. People can research this information for themselves.

FR's programming is 1996-vintage. It does not need massive enterprise-class servers to run. In addition, web hosting costs have come way, way down since 1996.

The low-end $399 Dell server has up to absolutely massive 12TB(squared) of storage. That's terabytes. One terabyte = 1000 gigabytes, or 1 trillion bytes. Even if they've saved every thread ever started on FR since 1996, and every private message, no way would such simple HTML data consume the storage of two servers, each with 12TB*squared) storage.

Please, Quix, your $361 is much more important in your real life than it is on this fantasy called Free Republic.

1,165 posted on 04/27/2012 8:13:50 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: alicewonders

I agree with you AW:

quote,

Romney will have to get every single vote possible just to have a chance to defeat the biggest threat to my liberty and freedom that I have ever known.

If Romney wins - we live to fight another day. If Obama wins - it’s checkmate. You want to say that I am “flip”? How flippant is it to throw a little tantrum and waste that precious vote on someone that cannot defeat this monster? America will not survive four more years of that.

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1,162 posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 21:11:20 by alicewonders

= = =
Remember Ross Perot?


1,166 posted on 04/27/2012 8:16:09 PM PDT by Joya (Remember Ross Perot?)
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To: vox_freedom

I have some problems with some libertarian values, for sure.

And I would have problems if any FREEPER thought that Romney was other than a Marxist globalist.

I do not have problems understanding why some FREEPERS believe, logically, that a vote for anyone but Romney would be a vote FOR OTHUGA.


1,167 posted on 04/27/2012 8:16:23 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
;>)
1,168 posted on 04/27/2012 8:18:27 PM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: mojitojoe

Actually, given the whining bitch response(s) that was totally out of context in either case, I wish I had.


1,169 posted on 04/27/2012 8:18:44 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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To: Quix

I wasn’t going to jump back in (now officially in moocher mode) but I believe you have hit the nail on the head. This site has become cult-like, and the only words you left out to complete that picture are “insufferably self-righteous.”

I have especially been struck by the recent Kim-Jong-Il-like events, where the Beloved Leader would begin a thread with a dramatic manifesto, outlining the underlying creed which all true believers were to imbibe and adhere to. This was not particularly chilling by itself, but what was chilling were the hundreds of posts of lockstep praise and allegiance that then came forth from the faithful. The implication that one had to get behind this or be considered apostate was palpable, and it struck me as very much a cult-like phenomenon: you must drink the Kool-aid or else. Many other points brought up here today serve to reinforce this as well.


1,170 posted on 04/27/2012 8:19:52 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: McLynnan
I left FR a while back because I got tired of the attacks against me and like minded people because we were from Texas and we supported Governor Perry.

On this particular issue I wanted to make a few long winded points that might (?) provide context. I see this mentioned a lot, but I don't really understand what people expected this sites administrators to do about it. Quite a lot of this thread is about people wanting to be more free to express their opinion, so should the moderators have massively intervened to silence or shut down the wave of attacks on Perry? I never got the impression that this sites owner, Jim Robinson, had any particular hostility to Perry. Perhaps he may have disagreed with some of Perry's positions, but I seem to remember him saying that Perry was a reasonable conservative option. I don't recall any of this sites moderators/administrators/assistants targeting pro-Perry people for abuse or zots. Sure, maybe many preferred other candidates, but I never got the impression that Free Republic in any way sanctioned any attacks on Perry supporters.

It's not like other candidates were spared, and many of us (including myself at times) were probably more over the top than necessary when arguing for their own candidate and against others. I thought Cain, for example, was a total fake and was bluffing his way through - and I am pretty glad we are allowed to express that sort of blunt opinion that no doubt rubbed many people the wrong way. I mean, was I "attacking" Cain for arguing he was not a candidate we should take seriously? I think history has now proven I was right, but saying such things certainly infuriated a lot of people at the time.

When Perry entered the race he immediately led the polls and looked very likely to be THE non-Romney. He has a great resume and had an ability to raise enough money to compete with Mitt. On paper he appeared to be the strongest candidate to square off against Romney unless......someone else entered the race. And who were many, many, many conservatives on this forum (and others) waiting for to enter the race? Sarah Palin. Like it or not, for a very large number of people, Perry became an instant, albeit temporary, enemy (as the man who appeared to be the single most legitimate conservative threat) to a Sarah Palin candidacy that so many people expected. Many of these folks immediately did what people who support a candidate do, they tear down the competition to clear the way. This, in my opinion, is what really sparked all the attacks on Perry - and I don't see how political forum moderators/admins could have done anything about it. They'd have had to take draconian actions to stop it - and if they'd done that it would have appeared they were actually siding with Perry instead of just trying to moderate debate.

I supported Perry. I moved away from him when I lost faith in his ability to communicate effectively enough during this particular election cycle (I will happily consider him again in 2016/2020). I was attacked for supporting Perry too - but I just don't see how it is fair to blame Free Republic's owner or the forum moderators for it. If you read some of the other conservative forums similar stuff happened (not counting the ones that outright supported Perry). We had a situation this election cycle where THE big name conservative/Tea Party candidate, Sarah Palin, that so many people absolutely believed was going to run (and were prepared to support) simply waited and waited and waited and ultimately declined to get in the race. For months lots of people here and activists all over the place were readying themselves for her candidacy, not even considering backing anyone else, and effectively working to clear the field for her. By the time she made it official that she wasn't running (and many people STILL don't believe it and think she can STILL somehow be the nominee), the attacks on Perry had already done their damage and the primary was more of a mess than it should have been.

Those are just my observations. On another note. I know much of the site was fairly pro Palin, but I was fairly blunt all summer that I believed she had no real intention to run. That was quite a contrarian view that infuriated a lot of people, yet I was able to speak my peace no matter who it outraged, attack right back at anyone who came after me, and otherwise make all my points without being censored, threatened or banned. My experience with moderators/admins has been quite good (even though perhaps many of them disagree with me on many policies).

1,171 posted on 04/27/2012 8:20:35 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Quix; Jim Robinson
I will likely donate half my tithes for this month when my $361 social security check posts on my bank.

You're really not going to let him give you his SS money are you?

1,172 posted on 04/27/2012 8:22:09 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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To: ansel12
Reagan and Romney have nothing in common.

I didn't say they did. I asked how you would receive an ex democrat and union leader today.

Knowing your posting history, you would have turned your back on him....not conservative enough....and missed a truly great President. Birchers couldn't stand Reagan, and there's not much difference between your brand of conservatism and theirs.

Romney's no Reagan...no one is. But he's the only chance we've got to get rid of a President far worse than Carter.

That is the point here, and what is tearing FR apart.

1,173 posted on 04/27/2012 8:23:23 PM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Wolfstar

You are likely right about my meager income.

And I certainly don’t doubt you about the servers. Many IT professionals have said similar things over the years.

JR likes things the way he’s had it all these years.

I can sort of understand him being a stick-in-the-mud curmudgeon about such things. I’d likely be, too.

I do think a LOT more candor and public info about where the money goes would be more ethical and honorable as well as more effective for FR. He seems to have complied to some degree tonight.

Thankfully, I live with my Dad and another FREEPER housemate so I don’t lack for shelter or food. Still, it is a meager income and I would be better to be wiser about it than I often am.

One of the reasons I’m in that state, however, is a life of giving what I had away to folks who needed it more and to help invite folks to Jesus The Christ. I don’t regret that. It does limit me now, more than a little however. LOL.

Thanks for your kind words.

I deeply appreciate your thoughtfulness and candor.


1,174 posted on 04/27/2012 8:23:42 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: DJ MacWoW

He who has the cash...

And it’s patently obvious that if you run a ‘freepathon’, then the site needs cash.

Therefore, the donors are the true owners.

Not understanding that will eventually just leave the site with insufficient funds to operate, leading to a shutdown.


1,175 posted on 04/27/2012 8:24:40 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: A.Hun

clap...clap....clap....clap....clap....

Excellent!


1,176 posted on 04/27/2012 8:25:03 PM PDT by mrpotatohead
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To: A.Hun

clap...clap....clap....clap....clap....

Excellent!


1,177 posted on 04/27/2012 8:26:18 PM PDT by mrpotatohead
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To: dagogo redux

Thanks for your kind reality check and kind words.

I wish greatly that your analysis were a lot more flawed than it seems to be. I think you are quite accurate.

And that has long saddened me for all concerned.

Cult members are usually an unhappy lot.

And the hopefully few mod harpies so given to gleefully wielding so many Islamic like swords around here certainly seem to be among the most unhappy.


1,178 posted on 04/27/2012 8:27:46 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Tribune7
You're really not going to let him give you his SS money are you?

You had better page him at the Olive Garden, he went out to dinner.

1,179 posted on 04/27/2012 8:28:18 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: dagogo redux; Quix

haha

cult

but not like a mormon

cult

-2.75 (witness)


1,180 posted on 04/27/2012 8:29:17 PM PDT by bigheadfred (MY PET TAPEWORM (OBIWAN) IS AN INSANE MILITARY HATING LEFTIST)
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