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Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.


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To: ansel12

Every post. Most of the politicians I posted about have been dead for at least 180 years. My guy was Rick Perry, just a shame his performance in our Endless Reality Show Debates primary did not help his cause. But since Mitt’s the last man standing, I am supporting him now. My other choice is Obama or someone running from the nutjob parties. I’d rather saw off my right arm then vote for Obama, and I am fairly sane, so that leaves out the nutter candidates. Yeah, I will promote Romney, because how I see it, if you don’t you are supporting Obama. Like I said, I’d rather saw off my right arm then support the dog eater.


1,351 posted on 04/27/2012 10:27:09 PM PDT by gusty
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To: ansel12; DJ MacWoW

I was replying to DJ MacWoW, who brought it up.


1,352 posted on 04/27/2012 10:27:09 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: altura

I was thrilled when Perry decided to toss in his hat. In my opinion, he did himself in with his embarrassingly poor debate performances. People concluded, rightly or not, that he was a George W. Bush clone complete with the Texan accent and the seeming lack of the ability to speak well. I HAD hopes for him, and he may yet be our nominee in the future, but he didn’t have what it took to beat the “teleprompter” in chief and it was painfully obvious. A little more practice and 2016 may be his time.


1,353 posted on 04/27/2012 10:28:25 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: BlatherNaut

LOL, so you think her posts made sense, were OK, no wonder you are a Romney supporter.


1,354 posted on 04/27/2012 10:30:03 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Wolfstar; Jim Robinson; DJ MacWoW
Don't you know what a fraud FR has become? $94,000 a calendar quarter for a website?! That's $376,000 a year. I have worked in the information systems field since 1988, so know whereof I speak.

That's directly from your post 1165, Wolfstar. You think this site is a fraud, and that the owner is committing a fraud.

Now with this last post, you are backtracking, bigtime. Now, all you want is an "accounting".

I am not buying what you are selling.

So why is it that you are on a website that you think is a fraud?

1,355 posted on 04/27/2012 10:30:32 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: Dengar01

That USED TO BE a certainty and a quick one at that.

Probably if JR has his way, it still is.

However, some mods seem to get away with getting pretty close to that level of intensity of a written assault. Thankfully, I haven’t seen them cross that line yet. But they sure seem to get right up close to it.

And in terms of LIFE ON FR, they certainly do issue “death threats” quite aggressively toward some perspectives and individuals.

However, you are not the type to issue such a threat to anyone, imho... Folks falsely accusing you are . . . grossly unaware, to put it politely.


1,356 posted on 04/27/2012 10:31:18 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Well Rockland County, NY’s was corrupted by lying. That much was certainly obvious. And by a party official.


1,357 posted on 04/27/2012 10:31:32 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: gusty

Try not to use Reagan to promote your Reagan hating man.


1,358 posted on 04/27/2012 10:33:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Bigun

Thanks for your kind understanding of my poor words.

Much appreciated.


1,359 posted on 04/27/2012 10:35:24 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: alicewonders

I thought her posts were vile and nasty, twisted.

Which parts of her posts to you find most useful, insightful, accurate, respectful to the owner and to the site that this thread is about?


1,360 posted on 04/27/2012 10:38:12 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: Quix
LOL I know the funny thing is the mod he complained to contacted me and we had a nice convo. But it was about SILENT_jonny being bullied by me and not wanting me to tell him what a POS he is.

I really don't know how that = death threat but I guess if people don't take their meds they imagine things. He should be proud. He leads threads for a show that panders to blacks and gays, and another show that panders to blacks and gays.

Ya gotta read his posts when he sarcastically attacks people and I have to repeat he is Joy Behar + Rachel Maddow trapped in a boy's body.

He can dish it out but can't take it.

He's like the brat on the playground who kicks you in the leg, you push him and he goes crying to the teacher....

I would love to see pictures of his harem I bet they are all Janet Reno look a likes.

1,361 posted on 04/27/2012 10:38:55 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: Persevero

I asked that same question and received no response.


1,362 posted on 04/27/2012 10:39:18 PM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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To: boatbums

I was very interested in Perry when he first announced. It was his “heartless” comment that turned me off. In spite of that I never hated him or thought he was stupid, but for me personally he lost all momentum with that comment. Even if it was coming from a well-intentioned place, it felt like a slap in the face. Hopefully he can come back and improve all facets of his performance; I think he would make any future race more interesting.


1,363 posted on 04/27/2012 10:39:52 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: boatbums

I was very interested in Perry when he first announced. It was his “heartless” comment that turned me off. In spite of that I never hated him or thought he was stupid, but for me personally he lost all momentum with that comment. Even if it was coming from a well-intentioned place, it felt like a slap in the face. Hopefully he can come back and improve all facets of his performance; I think he would make any future race more interesting.


1,364 posted on 04/27/2012 10:39:59 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: ansel12

I will tell you what. I will refrain from telling you what you should say, and how about returning the courtesy. If you have facts present them, I will give them a look see.


1,365 posted on 04/27/2012 10:40:05 PM PDT by gusty
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To: DJ MacWoW

I would imagine that thousands of such were corrupted across the nation.

The oligarchy works hard at all levels to make sure their will wins regardless.


1,366 posted on 04/27/2012 10:40:13 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Yes they do!

I have to go. Night Quix.

1,367 posted on 04/27/2012 10:41:26 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Dengar01

The number of conservatives on FR

who can evidently

dish it out most harshly, ruthlessly, relentlessly, irrationally, unwarrantedly, viciously

and not take a feather of a negative response in return

is shockingly astounding.

Particularly . . . well . . . I’ve said plenty about that.


1,368 posted on 04/27/2012 10:42:19 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
In other news the drunk stalker seems to have blacked out and the other offensive drunk who walked over a grave and offended probably hundreds of people with one post seems to have blacked out.

I guess moonshine gives you courage!!! But too much moonshine and you are out like a light!!!

Wish we could give virtual breathalyzers. The one stalker would blow a .2 by noon the other one may break the world record as not one of his rants made any sense. I've taken multiple psychology classes and studied various cases of mental cases, and the guy who posted the grave picture, he is an outlier I don't think Freud or Jung could figure this one out. Maybe Betty Ford could.

1,369 posted on 04/27/2012 10:42:55 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: gusty

Nothing but facts, about both Romney and Reagan.

Don’t do like the Reagan hating Romney and try to destroy Reagan while promoting Romney.


1,370 posted on 04/27/2012 10:44:24 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: DJ MacWoW

Thanks.

Night.

I’m showered and allergy medicated . . . and running out of gas so I should hit the hay as well.

Blessings . . .

I do hope, all,

that the candor on this thread is learned from vs attacked.

People who are hurt can say hurtful things in response.

Leadership notices the hurt and seeks to remove the unnecessary causes of such hurts.

Mob mentalities justify the hurts, rationalize the hurts and pile more hurts on.

Blessings to all of good heart in behalf of God and country and FR.


1,371 posted on 04/27/2012 10:45:03 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Roccus

It just proves Palin can get things wrong. Hell Rush isn’t perfect. I have yet to me the one perfect person. Getting closer every day though.


1,372 posted on 04/27/2012 10:45:13 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Dengar01

Hmmmmmm

Wellll take care, Dear Heart.

Night night.


1,373 posted on 04/27/2012 10:46:28 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix
Well buddy they are cowards, they hide behind a computer screen. Why am I not afraid of these losers? I run a store I have a business, the ones who aren't on disability and are drunk all day are hiding behind a computer.

In running my store I have to deal with volatile customers from time to time. Meaning I have to have a pair and have a spine something jonnyboy lacks. He unleashes his girls on me and cries to the mods like a 4 year old who dropped his popsicle.

See I own a business unlike grifters who milk the system. I deal with scum bags whether they are sales people or ghetto thugs trying to con me for money. You gotta have balls and stand up. Yeah, I'm vocal, yeah people who are complete cowards don't like that but that's life! Unless you have a sexual identity issue, then that's for some psychiatrist to deal with, screaming to mods and making slanderous charges of death threats won't solve a sexual identity crisis. Maybe he should go see Rent or watch Glee. I dunno. Obviously, American Idol and X-Factor hasn't made him happy yet so he resorts to his little insults and at the first sign of a response, WAAAAAAAAAA Mr. Moderator, Dengar01 said I'm a poopy head!!! That's a death threat :(

1,374 posted on 04/27/2012 10:48:49 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: exit82; Jim Robinson; DJ MacWoW
Now with this last post, you are backtracking, bigtime.

Backtracking? Not on your life. You kept using the word scam. I didn't. :)

Also, I never said the owner is committing fraud. I said the website is a fraud if it needs $376,000 a year to operate. As an example, I gave information from Dell's website. Gave the link. Anyone can go there and see for themselves. So where are the servers? As I demonstrated, enterprise-class servers can be purchased very cheaply. I could go further, as others before me already have, and point out website costs these days. But it isn't necessary. Let's just keep focusing on those servers. Where are they?

I mentioned FR being an LLC for a reason. Although I don't know what the laws are regarding disclosure when such large sums are being solicited from the public, one would think that the last thing y'all would want to fight against is accounting and transparency. But that's exactly what you're doing. Why?

What's even worse is that you treat the very public that FR is soliciting money from lower than dirt. Why is that? Even so, I have to assume Mr. Robinson has good legal and CPA-type advice, so assume he's operating lawfully. But being open and behaving decently to the people who are paying the bills is not happening.

By the way, if you have a shred of intellectual curiosity, check this out. You can find plenty more such information by doing a Google search on "how much does it cost to run a website."

1,375 posted on 04/27/2012 10:51:52 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Quix

God love you, Quix - because I sure do!

Hugs.


1,376 posted on 04/27/2012 10:52:27 PM PDT by Velveeta (ABO)
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To: All
I'd like to ask an open question of any of the Mods or Jim or whoever would like to answer.

First a little background...I'm a relatively new guy here, I think I've been posting from time to time for a year or two, certainly not as long as most of you. A few months ago I posted something along the lines of “if Romney is the guy, I'll vote for him, dont like him but he's not Obama”...or something to that effect, dont recall the exact words, but generally the ABO thing. Jim let me know he didn't like it (very graciously, no hard feelings to him at all), and I decided just to back off from posts about the presidential race for a while. I've posted a few times since, but mostly just lurked and read.

So now, Romney for all intents and purposes has the nomination, and this place is getting torn apart, by two sides who both say they either cant or must vote for Romney. Both sides get more inflamed, and it goes on and on.

So my question is this: Why not just stop allowing threads/discussion about the presidential race for this election cycle? OK, you're saying, thats stupid. Just consider this for a second:
1. The official position of the website, as I understand it, is now that neither of the two candidates who have a real chance to win may be supported. No one would support Obama for sure, and we are not supposed to support Romney on FR.

2. Therefore, any discussion of the race in keeping with the guidelines of the site, would be to say negative things about either candidate. That is, you can freely bash Obama or Romney, but dont praise either. You can say FUMR or FUBO, but dont say vote for either.

So, unless we just need a daily thread for people to come in and vent and say FU to each and hear someone else say “right on”, I really dont see any benefit to such threads. Post the official position of FR on the front page, as Jim has done in the past, and save the threads for discussion of issues, local races, news events and such. It just seems like since everyone has their mind made up already, and the only acceptable position to proselytize is that of voting for NEITHER candidate, it would just save a lot of anger and heartache to say that and stop having running discussions were one group tries to see how close they can get to the “zot line” without getting fried, and the other group questions the conservative credentials of the first group.

FR is a great website, I've enjoyed it a lot since I first started reading and posting. It just seems like an awful lot of time and energy is wasted on a circular argument that is simply pissing everyone off. Maybe I'm wrong, I've been married for 13 years, so I clearly understand that I am often wrong, but thats how I see it.

1,377 posted on 04/27/2012 10:52:54 PM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Honey badger's level of concern is negligible.)
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To: dirtboy

A Romney vote shows the gop-e they have nothing to worry about, and have no reason to change what they are doing. We will never get them out, and they will never lose control of the party when they know we’ll just keep voting for whichever one they put up.


1,378 posted on 04/27/2012 10:56:11 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: alicewonders

Haha, you made me laugh.


1,379 posted on 04/27/2012 10:58:34 PM PDT by Velveeta (I intend to campaign vigorously for whoever our nominee is...Ronald Reagan 1988)
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To: Wolfstar

If you don’t like the way we operate FR, just leave. Sheesh.
bye.


1,380 posted on 04/27/2012 11:01:43 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: ansel12; Wolfstar
Which parts of her posts to you find most useful, insightful, accurate, respectful to the owner and to the site that this thread is about?

I think that a lot of posts on this thread tonight have been a long time coming. I know they have been for me. Your post about choking kittens was particularly disturbing to me - like you were projecting your own warped thoughts.

Now you're trying to deflect it to Wolfstar - but your post is there for everyone to see. Creepy stuff.

1,381 posted on 04/27/2012 11:04:05 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: sanescold

bye


1,382 posted on 04/27/2012 11:06:10 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Wolfstar; Jim Robinson; DJ MacWoW
I said the website is a fraud if it needs $376,000 a year to operate.

I have already shown you that word "if" was NOT in your reply 1165.

Take responsibility for your words for once, will you?

I used the word "scam" because you used the word "fraud", and I would never use the word "fraud" in talking about Jim Robinson.

If you wanted an accounting, all you ever had to do was ask Jim.

You have gone from projection to misdirection.

There was no justification to use the word "fraud", especially when you have been here or over 12 years.

As I said before, you have a personal issue with the owner, and you need to take it up with him.

But to call this site a fraud,and to insinuate the solicitation of money is fraudulent because you think the money is not being spent wisely because you are some kind of expert in the field of computing, was beyond the pale.

In spite of you being here 12 years, you did not even have the decency to ping the owner of the site in your post 1165.

You can tap dance all night, but I continue to ask you, and will for the fifth time, why are you here?

1,383 posted on 04/27/2012 11:08:09 PM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: altura

Sorry, I’ve posted thousands of times that we do not support abortionists on FR. If that’s what you wish to do, you might as well go find a new home on the net. You’re not going to do it here. FR is and will remain a pro-life conservative site despite the GOP RINOS.


1,384 posted on 04/27/2012 11:09:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: alicewonders
Now you're trying to deflect it to Wolfstar - but your post is there for everyone to see.

There is no freeper named Wolfstar, but I can tell you that he would think that you have tried to totally reverse reality.

1,385 posted on 04/27/2012 11:09:42 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: FreeReign

Well, I could have picked one side or the other out of about a half dozen or so and banned all others. Thought it was just best to allow them to fight it out.


1,386 posted on 04/27/2012 11:13:49 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: A.Hun

Uh, I’m not going to support an abortionist liberal progressive even if he has a “R” beside his name. The GOP-e are a bunch of dumb asses for pushing this leftist democrat on us.


1,387 posted on 04/27/2012 11:17:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; FreeReign; Quix; y'all

Something a lot of peeps are missing is the bigger picture and what’s REALLY going on here...

It’s FAR bigger than this election, than this website, than this country.

Far. Bigger.

(Jim? This herding cats thing.... I couldn’t do it. You have far more patience than I do.)


1,388 posted on 04/27/2012 11:17:39 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: Tribune7; onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; RedMDer; musicman; Lady Jag; MEG33; ...

Well, you know I used to tell people who said things like this not to send us money that they need for other things and that FR is doing fine. Well, after a couple of them told me they were hurt by my comments and really wanted to support our conservative causes and were proud to do so, I quit objecting. We greatly appreciate all contributions no matter how large or how small and are proud to have as many pro-life conservative freepers participating on FR whether they can donate or not. A tiny fraction of our readership supports the entire shooting match.

By the way, speaking of donations, this just in:

$20.00 from Oregon
$10.00 from Kansas
$30.00 monthly from California (renewal and increase)
$50.00 from Florida
$10.00 from Tennessee

Thank you all very much!!

We are FR!! Unabashedly pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-limited government, pro-traditional American conservative and unashamed and unafraid to be so!!

OPEN ALL NIGHT!!


1,389 posted on 04/27/2012 11:33:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; y'all
Unabashedly pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-limited government, pro-traditional American conservative and unashamed and unafraid to be so!!

Needs repeating...

1,390 posted on 04/27/2012 11:34:39 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (PRAY for this country like your life depends on it......because it DOES!)
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To: McLynnan

Well, you can’t blame the moderators. I instructed them to lay low, that I expected FR to be a bloody battleground for this primary season and that we would just have to let it play out. And play out it did. I did take out a few of the nastier ones, but we’re all supposed to be conservative adults here and for the most part we are. We shouldn’t need a nanny to tell us how to behave in public.


1,391 posted on 04/27/2012 11:37:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; onyx; RedMDer
I think more people should check out the FR Whale Wars Threads than complain!!! onyx will have to help me HTML because I'm not good at that. But I think we had a record posts for our first Whale Wars Thread of the year!!!

Is that a shameless plug? :D RedMDer posted a FReepathon ad I was tempted to ad him to the Whale Wars Ping list!!! The more the merrier.

Proof that we have threads without this type of nonsense. onyx you do gotta check out the thread you will laugh hysterically it was hippies vs. Al Qaeda on Whale Wars and I'm not even joking.

The Hippies thought it would be smart to fight Libyan fisherman when Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood were taking over Libya. They didn't realize that the Arabs fight back unlike the Japanese whalers. If you have On Demand you gotta watch this you will never laugh more in your entire life!

1,392 posted on 04/27/2012 11:42:19 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: gogogodzilla

The donors are donors not owners. We don’t sell shares in the company. That would be a violation of securities law. That’s not the way the founding fathers set it up, it’s just another way the Democrat tyrants (aided and abetted by the Republican tyrants) have of attempting to control us and deprive us of our God given rights to self-governance and the pursuit of Happiness (economic freedom). Look it up.


1,393 posted on 04/27/2012 11:51:53 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Religion Moderator
Well, you can’t blame the moderators. I instructed them to lay low, that I expected FR to be a bloody battleground for this primary season and that we would just have to let it play out. And play out it did. I did take out a few of the nastier ones, but we’re all supposed to be conservative adults here and for the most part we are. We shouldn’t need a nanny to tell us how to behave in public.

Ditto!!! Mods have been very helpful. I need to personally thank the Religion_Moderator who helped me figure out how to block the religion posts that seem to be like a flame fest.

And one of the Mods today assisted me with a question so yeah I am not going to complain about the mods, they've been very helpful to me. So kudos to them for all the help :)

1,394 posted on 04/27/2012 11:53:42 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Quix
If it weren't 2 AM Chicago time I'd explain how LLC's work to these people. It was insane to start my business. I jumped through hoops and ladders to get an LLC.

But as I told Quix, too many people think they are legal experts because they watch Judge Judy!!!

1,395 posted on 04/27/2012 11:56:08 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: Dengar01

I think some of these yahoos should talk with their attorneys and CPAs before shooting their mouths off about stuff they obviously know nothing about. Same goes for operating a large site like FR (Traffic Rank in US: Number 1,162 out of millions of sites according to Alexa today) with over 200,000 unique users and a million page views per day and a server/disk farm capable of handling and storing millions of transactions per year from millions of users. I’ve been involved in the computer business since 1972 and in business for myself since 1988. I know just enough about this stuff to really get myself into some fine messes. Just too damn dumb and stubborn to realize that we can’t do what we’re attempting to do on FR and have been doing it since 1996—with no capital and no “professionals” involved.

We are the resistance!!


1,396 posted on 04/28/2012 12:15:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Deek; Windflier; boatbums; onyx; Jim Robinson
this is the absolute wrong time to allow ourselves to be marginalized. The only way we get a seat at the table is to be on the team.

You've answered your own questions.....It Is Jim's table...and it is his "Party" we as 'conservatives' are invited to..... That does not give others a right to bash the host or complain about his decisions as we know he is thoughtful enough to ask our "opinions". Nor should Freepers bash those he relys on to make FR work.

Though you've said you understand Jim's position I can't agree that you do, otherwise you would not be in the position you have found yourself of questioning the pupose of FR.

As to being "on the team"....if you mean the Gop...they're no longer my team...they took the ball and ran it for the opposing team, and continue to do so. It's really that simple.

Further,... when we keep electing the "lessor of two evils" we continue to keep marching more and more into perpetual debt.. and erosion of our rights... until this country looks more like Socialist Europe than the USA.....Does that sound like a working solution?...Did not our founders escape that very thing to form our nation independant and free?.... They refused to "Consent"...

.....When the Founding Fathers spoke of government... 'By Consent' of the governed,.... they knew exactly what government was like when it was Not conducted 'by consent' of the governed...... The latter was the government the colonists were subjected to:

......innumerable measures, including taxes, were passed by the British Parliament,.... and the colonists had no input,.... no representatives to express their dissent,..... and no opportunity to do anything except obey the laws imposed upon them.

"Consent Of The Governed"... was a concept applied to the nation as a whole, to the people in their plurality..... It is the nation that is the source of authority acting through the government, and it is the nation's 'Consent' that makes government legitimate.

How many times do we continue to "Consent" to the very thing we oppose? ...When is enough enough?...Just exactly when will this nations people stop the madness in an election system rigged years before we are permitted a vote which counts for nothing at all?

Half the nations states were purposely excluded, and thousands of voters in this Primary...again!... The same will occur in the General. I will not "Consent" any longer to this corruption .....our vote is our Consent... and that has 'value' for some more than others.

1,397 posted on 04/28/2012 12:24:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Have the costs of FR ever been posted? It is a simple forum web site. How much does it cost to run?


1,398 posted on 04/28/2012 12:40:29 AM PDT by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: Jim Robinson
Everyone thinks they are a legal expert if they watch enough Judge Judy or The People's Court. The legal fees alone for the LLC, then dealing with the banks, then the state, then the feds.

None of these people are small business owners. Let alone something this large. And everyone now a days thinks they are some sort of expert. Yeah tell that to me when you actually run a business!!!

I'm sure the ghoul who tried to get me banned is crying to every mod and person he knows but I said what needed to be said. I started a business, went through hell to get the LLC and I'm successful. I have to deal with thugs non stop. Usually, they are from various marketing firms. That's when I go into my high and mighty mode and tell them I have an MBA and you can probably finish the rest without me resorting to foul language.

Until someone starts a business they have no idea what the hell they are talking about and how much time, money and work goes into it. I'm in IL I bet CA is ten times worse. They don't hand out LLC's like Cracker Jack boxes, you have to go through hell to get one.

Hence why I've always been outspoken, a male FReeper who is only known as "the guy who posts for singing TV shows like Glee" is not going to scare me off Free Republic. I live in Crook County, IL. Cowards like him are nothing compared to the scum running this County... Everyone in this country knows Cook County, so running a business here is like dealing with Tony Soprano.

1,399 posted on 04/28/2012 12:46:57 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: Quix
Can’t we just get along REASONABLY?

Not during a Primary....you mentioned FR being "family"...families fight when they are passionate over a matter and that includes politics...they cry and whine and belly ache...together and behind each others back. And sometimes there is no resolution...it's accepted as that. Fr IS a family....that's why this stuff happens.

Now I speak of this having married into a very large family all involved with various businesses in the company. Seven brothers and sisters along with their mates and kids...and the BIg man and his wife...It was like "Dallas"...in fact my father- in -law had a professional sign placed on the homestead..."NorthFork".

I've seen it all...and is basically what I see here on Fr. Especially if there are "intruders" from outside the FR family. In my family we might fight have fought like dog and cats but an 'outsider' would not want to tangle with any member without the full force of the family rallying.

So Quix...it really is a family here...

P.S. BTW...Jim and the moderators remind me of the "Big Man" and His wife.....when the family got out of hand with their bickering...they spoke and it was a done deal. And yes it wasn't always 'fair'..and some would pout, others crawl off and we wouldn't communicate for weeks on end. But sooner or later all came around once again.

1,400 posted on 04/28/2012 12:49:41 AM PDT by caww
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