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Let's put this to bed. We have bigger fish to fry.
April 27, 2012 | 2ndDivisionVet

Posted on 04/27/2012 4:56:50 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Everyone please send whatever you are able to, whether it is $10, $100 or $1,000+. The DUmmies, Morons, Kos Kiddies and that crew are laughing up their sleeves. Jim may have to make this site members only or allow ads. Better for us to just help with what we can. Maybe you can donate as a memorial for a lost loved one, a servicemember who never made it home or was disabled defending our country. Perhaps you'd like to give to keep free discussion alive and to show them that we're not knuckling under. I'm sure a well thought out or prayerful meditation will lead you to see the need and how you can help. If every registered FReeper and our lurkers would each just help out with a fin or a sawbuck, or better yet a Ben Franklin, we could put this to bed and get on with the conservative cause.


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To: CAluvdubya
*I miss the folks that used to be here when I joined*.

The only constant in life is change, AND, nostalgia always puts lace and lavender on gritty reality.

1,451 posted on 04/28/2012 6:02:38 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: ansel12
no wonder you are a Romney supporter.

No, YOU are are Romney supporter.

1,452 posted on 04/28/2012 6:04:45 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Second Amendment First
I used to think the FR community would be the people whom I could trust in a revolution. Now, I would be afraid of being shot in the back.

...by a clutch of squawking shrews shooting blanks with lousy aim. :::shivers:::

1,453 posted on 04/28/2012 6:18:01 AM PDT by NautiNurse
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To: Quix

Yes, Quix. Yes.


1,454 posted on 04/28/2012 6:26:13 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Lazamataz

Did ya see my asterick at the bottom? I clarified. :)...So my wise cracking humor leaves much to be desired.


1,455 posted on 04/28/2012 6:29:14 AM PDT by CAluvdubya (I just try to stay out of the fray...)
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To: bigheadfred

http://www.google.com/search?q=johnny+winter+still+alive+and+well

Well enough, anyway. :’)


1,456 posted on 04/28/2012 6:31:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (FReepathon 2Q time -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CAluvdubya

Nah, I saw it. I just never miss an opportunity to post that graphic. :)


1,457 posted on 04/28/2012 6:35:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: Lazamataz

You evidently missed the author and link at the top of the joke. Wish I could claim it. LOL.


1,458 posted on 04/28/2012 6:36:28 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: CAluvdubya

Aw hell. Wrong thread. GAH I NEED COFFEE


1,459 posted on 04/28/2012 6:36:51 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I wonder why it is so hard for some to recognize this fact.


1,460 posted on 04/28/2012 6:40:08 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: caww

Those who choose to vote for other then Romney or Obama have not wasted there(their) vote
_____________________________________
You can say it all you want, it doesn’t make it so. Especially in a battleground state, it is a wasted vote.


1,461 posted on 04/28/2012 6:40:49 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Resettozero

I have a question for you . . .

What percentage of the average FREEPERS hereon

do you think

REALLY SEE AND UNDERSTAND at least 55% . . . (of 100% of completely understanding)

that we are in the midst of the Biblical END TIMES

massive object lesson of God

vis a vis

the dramatic finale of the battle between satan and God in terms of the world stage . . . globalism . . . spiritual warfare being the supreme priority for individuals and groups and nations etc.?

???

The enemy has us shredding one another over stuff that satan’s own globalist oligarchy has settled in their backrooms months ago or longer ago. They already know which stooge will be in the White House Feb 2013. They might adjust some depending on events near the SElection but they already know. They already chose.

Their wholly owned Marxist Stream Media will help appear to ‘make it happen.’

Other operatives will insure whatever needful ballot count for that eventuality is accomplished.

All the Romney/OThuga angst on FR is for naught. I firmly believe that OThuga is the worst demonized gleeful Destroyer of the Republic of the two but both are stooges of the globalists. Folks not realizing that are not functioning in reality.


1,462 posted on 04/28/2012 6:41:48 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

I did not know you were Emo Phillips. I’ve always enjoyed your humor, Emo. Thank you for the many years of laughter!


1,463 posted on 04/28/2012 6:43:41 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Admin Moderator refuses to let me hit it. -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2875871/posts)
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To: coon2000
Have the costs of FR ever been posted? It is a simple forum web site. How much does it cost to run?

Well there is a “budget”. I think the GSA has one of those too. : ),

But then let there be no mistake, Free Republic is a privately held Limited Liability Corporation for profit entity so is under no obligation to disclose its actual financials to anyone save for the IRS and the State of California. Then again, it operates much like a not for profit in that all income is generated from “donations”. So it would be nice to see an actual working budget and an actual budget vs. actual expenses posted. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for when asking for donations. I think a lot of us (especially the bean counters like me) would be a lot more comfortable donating if we had a better idea of how the donations were actually spent. Not that I think that Jim and others who run the site aren’t entitled to an income, nor would it matter if that figure was known, but the budget is so lacking in any sort of detail as to make it meaningless.

For instance, there is a line item in the budget for “Travel Expenses” at $1,200 per month. Really? $14,400.00 per year on travel? Why does an HTML website require $14,400.00 per year in travel expenses? That’s twice the amount budgeted for Equip, Maintenance and Repairs.

As far as the need for new servers and “equipment”, it would be nice to see a real estimate and detailed budget for what is actually needed. As someone else pointed out, commercial grade servers are pretty cheap now days. Heck my nephew in law recently bought a very nice used but relative new and working commercial grade server for a couple of hundred bucks off of eBay.

1,464 posted on 04/28/2012 6:46:14 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: dirtboy

“Well, I guess that’s true in a way, if you have reason to believe his current position.”

Dirtboy, I have reason to believe his current position because I have seen and heard first hand many others who have made the same change.

Who is anyone here to judge a person’s current character by an initial reaction to an emotional circumstance or situation which causes that person to be upset, especially at a young age?

Worse, who is anyone here that can say they have never been wrong, unenlightened, or had a change of heart regarding an idea or way of thinking?

Attacking a person for changing his mind on a principle, whether running for office or not, always seems a bit odd to me, most especially when the principle pertains to the life issue. I’m not as cynical in this regard as some here are because I have seen it happen. And heard the hell that these people who have changed have gone through. Essentially, politicians are no different than you or I in one way. . . we all make mistakes.

Again. . . Ronald Reagan, Karen Santorum and many many others have seen the light and changed their minds with the help of God’s grace. That is the goal of the Pro-Life movement.

Differing on other policy issues may be a good reason to dislike a candidate. But on this one, please God give those who have come to terms with the reality of the horror of abortion a break. They have enough to reckon with.

“Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.”

Respectfully,
adc


1,465 posted on 04/28/2012 6:46:58 AM PDT by adc
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To: Lazamataz
... nostalgia always puts lace and lavender on gritty reality.

So true. But this thread is in dire need of some lace and lavender, eh? Thanks for your beneficial perspective Laz.

1,466 posted on 04/28/2012 6:50:24 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: MD Expat in PA

See posts 1396 amd 1402 for some answers to your questions.

Feel free to contact the owner re: travel expenses.


1,467 posted on 04/28/2012 6:55:24 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: SoCalTransplant

Therefore, any discussion of the race in keeping with the guidelines of the site, would be to say negative things about either candidate.
__________________________________
No thanks, I’ll pass. The most important race in history due to the fact that occupying the White House we have a Marxist Muslim lover Kenyan trojan horse that wants to be a dictator, I’ll post elsewhere and do everything I can to get him out.


1,468 posted on 04/28/2012 6:56:09 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: Longbow1969

Bingo. I could not agree more!


1,469 posted on 04/28/2012 7:02:45 AM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: Jim Robinson; FreeReign
Well, I could have picked one side or the other out of about a half dozen or so and banned all others. Thought it was just best to allow them to fight it out.

---

Is that why at least three members have been ZOTTED already from this thread?

Wolfstar being the most recent.

1,470 posted on 04/28/2012 7:02:55 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: onyx; trisham; TheOldLady; DJ MacWoW; JoeProBono; moose07; musicman; Lady Jag; deoetdoctrinae; ...
We are FR!!
Unabashedly pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-limited government, pro-traditional American conservative and unashamed and unafraid to be so!!


The Place for Conservatives
WooHoo! Thank you donors! Lets roll!
WooHoo!!


1,471 posted on 04/28/2012 7:09:57 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: caww

Justice Scalia just turned 78, Justice Kennedy will turn 78 later this year, Justice Breyer will be 76 in August, and Justice Ginsburg turned 81 about a week ago.

“We wish them all well, of course, but the brute fact is that whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come. If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or 0, I think you’re smokin’ something funky.” — columnist Andrew McCarthy


1,472 posted on 04/28/2012 7:12:51 AM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was supporting Cain at first and then got behind Newt, then Rick. When I gave a modest kudos to Mitt for saying to a moonbat “if you want free stuff vote for the other guy”, I got a pounded. This may get me zotted but I can do without that cr@p.


1,473 posted on 04/28/2012 7:14:52 AM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t appreciate your implying that I am not pro-life. I am strongly pro life. It’s probably my biggest social issue.

I just know that Obama voted to allow doctors to destroy a live born fetus if the mother had wanted it aborted.

I also know that Romney says he is pro life. I’m willing to give him a chance to prove it rather than vote for a known abortion supporter.

You should know me better than that, but I will chalk it up to this exhausting thread.

I won’t be leaving, so you’ll have to kick me out if that’s what you want. You know I love Free Republic but I’m voting against the Muslim.


1,474 posted on 04/28/2012 7:17:15 AM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: mojitojoe
“We wish them all well, of course, but the brute fact is that whoever we elect as president in November is almost certainly going to choose at least one and maybe more new members of the Supreme Court — in addition to hundreds of other life-tenured federal judges, all of whom will be making momentous decisions about our lives for decades to come. If you don’t think it matters whether the guy making those calls is Mitt Romney or 0, I think you’re smokin’ something funky.” — columnist Andrew McCarthy

Bump.

1,475 posted on 04/28/2012 7:17:22 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: exit82; Jim Robinson
See posts 1396 amd 1402 for some answers to your questions.

Thanks but those posts don't answer any of the questions I and others have asked regarding accountability to those who donate.

Feel free to contact the owner re: travel expenses.

OK. Done.

1,476 posted on 04/28/2012 7:17:39 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA
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To: mojitojoe

So what you are saying is that leaving your ballot blank, voting for someone who will at most get .5% of the vote, or writing in someone who isn’t running will solidify abortion for decades to come. So if standing by your principles leads to more abortion, should one reassess their strategy. Or logic just doesn’t get through to some people.


1,477 posted on 04/28/2012 7:22:08 AM PDT by gusty
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To: Quix
What percentage of the average FREEPERS hereon do you think REALLY SEE AND UNDERSTAND at least 55% . . . (of 100% of completely understanding) that we are in the midst of the Biblical END TIMES massive object lesson of God vis a vis the dramatic finale of the battle between satan and God in terms of the world stage . . . globalism . . . spiritual warfare being the supreme priority for individuals and groups and nations etc.?

Approximately 38% is my guess. Maybe less.

1,478 posted on 04/28/2012 7:25:09 AM PDT by .30Carbine (God bless you with the spirit of wisdom and understanding)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Post 1396 explains the needs for the servers and what they do.

Post 1402 says to click on “Donate” to get the budget—see below:

Glad you contacted the owner to get the information you seek.

Free Republic Monthly Budget
Once we get our monthly donations to the point where they will cover all of our expenses, we will not need to have fundraisers.

Est. Recurring Monthly Contributions $11,600

Monthly Expenses
Bandwidth and Colocation $2,430
Systems and Programming 7,000
Management and Admin + Taxes 13,500
Legal and Accounting 1,000
Bank Fees, Credit Card Fees, Processing Fees 900
Equip, Maintenance and Repairs 600
Office Expenses, Rents, Insurance, Telephone, ISP, Supplies, Allowance for Declines/Cancels 2,500
Travel Expenses 1,200 29,130



Est. Monthly Shortfall ($17,530)


Est. Recurring Monthly Contributions
This is the amount contributed by the monthly donors only. It does not include one-time donations.

Est. Monthly Shortfall
Amount needed in one-time donations per month or additional monthlies need to meet budget needs.


1,479 posted on 04/28/2012 7:26:12 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemies of freedom. Be Andrew Breitbart.)
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To: Jim Robinson
I followed the "The donors are donors not owners. We don’t sell shares in the company. That would be a violation of securities law."

But the "That’s not the way the founding fathers set it up, it’s just another way the Democrat tyrants (aided and abetted by the Republican tyrants) have of attempting to control us and deprive us of our God given rights to self-governance and the pursuit of Happiness (economic freedom). Look it up."... I don't follow.

The founding fathers created a nation, not a LLC.

Though, if you view donations as taxes, then the donors are kinda rebelling right now... saying "No taxation without representation".

Now, I do understand that donations are voluntary. But with longtime (read: posters from the '90s) posters getting ZOTTED left and right, many are leaving. That leaves you with a problem.

Which is that you now have a shrinking pool of people from which to request donations. And considering the site has lost roughly 10% of it's traffic in the last three months, that problem is going to snowball.

Tie into that the fact that the Freepathons have slowed down quite a bit, and you'd have to conclude that those 10% you've lost contained a good number of your donors.

See your stats at: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/freerepublic.com#trafficstats

1,480 posted on 04/28/2012 7:30:11 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Quix

Quix, I cannot say how many FReepers. But I can say I’ve witnessed churches torn asunder over similar political disputes. Often, it seemed as if virtually no one benefited from the process or the result of the argument.

So, yes; I’ve always sensed “something else” was going on during such church disagreements, even as a young boy, but came to understand soon that the biggest battle is for a man’s soul; definitely a spiritual battle, and the most important battle a man can face.

But I’m hopeful that things are not as bad as they seem right now on Free Republic. I really think that a few have stirred the pot (Double trouble, boil and bubble) and some will leave or drift away, as always in the past. Others may rethink their positions and quit yelling and insulting each other. Some won’t do anything to help improve the situation.

Wheat and chaff, as it’s always been.


1,481 posted on 04/28/2012 7:33:22 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: FReepers
WooHoo! Michigan!

The Place for Conservatives
WooHoo!!

WooHoo! North Carolina!

The Place for Conservatives
WooHoo!!


1,482 posted on 04/28/2012 7:36:02 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If they are asking for donations to keep it running, yes I would.

Because, then, it’s my money involved. And I’m not about to waste it.


1,483 posted on 04/28/2012 7:37:22 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: All; Jim Robinson

I can’t remember who asked me to read Wolfstar’s posts so I’m just posting to all.

I remember her from the old days, but really I just remember her name. I don’t know much about her views but I thought she was a good person.

Now that I’ve read her financial diatribes, I feel forced to disavow my connection with her.

I don’t know why she would think or imply that this is a money-making operation for Jim. Obviously, it is not. I hope he draws enough for a good living as he deserves it.

He’s done more for the country than all the pop stars and atheletes who make millions. To accuse him of doing this for money is ridiculous.


1,484 posted on 04/28/2012 7:41:17 AM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: mojitojoe

My gosh, I knew there were some old dudes on the bench but that’s kind of a surprise. They are older than I am and I’m not sure I trust my own judgment.

That makes this election even more important. We simply can’t trust the Supreme Court to Obama.

We just can’t.


1,485 posted on 04/28/2012 7:45:45 AM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
It just proves Palin can get things wrong.

Had you said that on the thread I did, you would have been excoriated. Taught me to stay off ANY candidate's thread though.

Gettin' closer and closer myself.

1,486 posted on 04/28/2012 7:46:48 AM PDT by Roccus
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To: gogogodzilla; 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson

Common sense tells one that if the point was to make money FR would be a commercial venture. It is not. Commercial investors have a say in content and FR is free of any outside interference. Jim Robinson could have sold out and been rich long ago. Instead he lets people like you insult him.


1,487 posted on 04/28/2012 7:48:36 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Wolfstar; sanescold; exit82; Jim Thompson; darkwing104; 50mm; SunkenCiv; humblegunner; Allegra; ...

So long, Wolfstar (Posting History), and sanescold (Posting History)

Hat Tip to Exit82 and Jim

Double ZOT of the Thread


ZOT


Bye, guy and gal - Shouldn't listen to lying leftist propaganda,
or spout lying concern-troll vitriol.
Yes, it's a real shame what FR has come to,
people like you trying to destroy it all
for your insane leftist buddies



FReepmail TheOldLady to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list.

1,488 posted on 04/28/2012 7:59:53 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Okay, I finally have to compliment you. Ouch, it hurts.

But you have hung in here and remained respectful in your comments to everyone and stayed calm and focused.

Gotta respect that.


1,489 posted on 04/28/2012 8:00:19 AM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: TheOldLady

If you are really an old lady and you can still do a tribal dance ... gotta admire that.

But I still don’t think it’s becoming to celebrate zots, especially of long time faithful members.


1,490 posted on 04/28/2012 8:02:07 AM PDT by altura (If you are one of the abusers of Rick Perry, don't complain to me about Romney.)
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To: TheOldLady
SATURDAY SAFETY DANCE!
1,491 posted on 04/28/2012 8:02:49 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: bigheadfred

Prayers up.


1,492 posted on 04/28/2012 8:04:05 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Wolfstar; exit82
That figure is FR's quarterly budget with the other half of the funds for new equipment added. It is NOT just servers.

It is called a "server room" because that IS the equipment.

Other than a switch, router and modem; all about 1k the servers are the equipment.

I have no problem with JR taking a salary but don't tell us the "equipment" is the reason for the cost when you don't know what the "equipment" is.

1,493 posted on 04/28/2012 8:04:05 AM PDT by Eaker (When somebody hands you your arse, don't give it back saying "This needs a little more tenderizing.")
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To: Lazamataz

LOL!


1,494 posted on 04/28/2012 8:10:19 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: mojitojoe

Dont disagree with you, Joe. But my point is that if the official position of this site is that neither candidate can be supported, then there is really no point in having the discussion.

Its like if we were to start a Coke Vs. Pepsi thread, but one of the ground rules was that we could praise neither Coke or Pepsi, under threat of zot. By definition, the only thing you could really have is pages of people saying “Coke Sucks” or “Pepsi Sucks”.....which once that is said, its really not doing anything constructive to just repeat that over and over. Rather than getting everyone all mad or temppting people to cross a line and get zotted, just say on this site, there is no point in having the discussion, heres the official position in favor of RC Cola, and lets move on to other things.


1,495 posted on 04/28/2012 8:12:23 AM PDT by SoCalTransplant (Honey badger's level of concern is negligible.)
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To: SouthTexas

Yep.


1,496 posted on 04/28/2012 8:15:15 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: onyx

>> Provided my vote will be counted, recorded and published, I am voting for Sarah Louise Palin. <<

Hey, let’s face reality for a change:

Such a vote won’t be counted in any meaningful way, because when you vote in a Presidential election, you aren’t actually voting for a candidate. No, you are voting for a slate of ELECTORS who are pledged to a particular candidate.

In other words, unless Sarah Palin in fact has a slate of electors on the ballot in your state (whichever one of the 57 your state may be), there’s no way on earth you can actually vote for Sarah.


1,497 posted on 04/28/2012 8:17:27 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: SoCalTransplant

Good examples. Thanks.


1,498 posted on 04/28/2012 8:18:09 AM PDT by Resettozero
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Click the pic.

"Education is useless without the Bible."

- Noah Webster
The Techniques of Communism: INVADING EDUCATION

1,499 posted on 04/28/2012 8:19:06 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Eaker; Jim Robinson

Jim,
Take this advice from an old friend. It is your business, run it how you wish, but this may be a thought that could help that Eaker’s comment made me think.

Maybe you have an opportunity to lay out specifically what equipment you have and need. Outlining the specifics of the technical situation will first give the ‘restless’* customers some more peace of mind. You may be missing an opportunity. You may have FReepers who own server farms and have extras sitting around that meet your need. You may have someone with spare T3 switches. You may have someone with the exact coding experience you need who can come in and perform miracles? Maybe giving up just a little control will be easier on you, transform the site, and bring your customers back.

*I’ve never seen restlessness like this from the ‘customers’ in my decade here. Not just the occasional malcontents, but established, respected folks. In my world, if trend lines change, you have to review your business model and look for either cost savings, new ways to generate revenue, or new ways to attract customers. Don’t let this become ‘just another site’. You don’t have to change your values to do that either.

Just my opinion. Take it or leave it.


1,500 posted on 04/28/2012 8:19:29 AM PDT by mnehring
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