"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
Posted on 04/27/2012 6:57:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
April 27, 2012
I deal on a regular daily basis with self-identified conservatives all across America who are addicted to the Republican Party. And when it comes to the impending nomination by their party of the most liberal governor in U.S. history, Mitt Romney, their reactions are overwhelmingly in line with the classic symptoms described below. We can't make them face reality, of course. All we can do is to keep pointing it out to them, in the sincere hope that they will recover in time to help save the country.
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From Wikipedia :
Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may use:
The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction. The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape.
In this form of denial, someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details to tailor a story (omission), or by falsely agreeing to something (assent, also referred to as "yessing" behavior). Someone who is in denial of fact is typically using lies to avoid facts they think may be painful to themselves or others.
This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by:
Someone using denial of responsibility is usually attempting to avoid potential harm or pain by shifting attention away from themselves.
For example: Troy breaks up with his girlfriend because he is unable to control his anger, and then blames her for everything that ever happened.
Denial of impact involves a person's avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms of his or her behavior has caused to self or others, i.e. denial of the consequences. Doing this enables that person to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent him or her from developing remorse or empathy for others. Denial of impact reduces or eliminates a sense of pain or harm from poor decisions.
This type of denial is best discussed by looking at the concept of state dependent learning. People using this type of denial will avoid pain and harm by stating they were in a different state of awareness (such as alcohol or drug intoxication or on occasion mental health related). This type of denial often overlaps with denial of responsibility.
Many who use this type of denial will say things such as, "it just happened". Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. The pain and harm being avoided by this type of denial is more of the effort needed to change the focus from a singular event to looking at preceding events. It can also serve as a way to blame or justify behavior (see above).
This can be a difficult concept for many people to identify with in themselves, but is a major barrier to changing hurtful behaviors. Denial of denial involves thoughts, actions and behaviors which bolster confidence that nothing needs to be changed in one's personal behavior. This form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. Denial at this level can have significant consequences both personally and at a societal level.
Harassment covers a wide range of offensive behaviour. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset. In the legal sense, it is behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing.
DARVO is an acronym to describe a common strategy of abusers: Deny the abuse, then Attack the victim for attempting to make them accountable for their offense, thereby Reversing Victim and Offender.
Psychologist Jennifer Freyd writes:
...I have observed that actual abusers threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of law suits, overt and covert attacks on the whistle-blower's credibility, and so on. The attack will often take the form of focusing on ridiculing the person who attempts to hold the offender accountable. [...] [T]he offender rapidly creates the impression that the abuser is the wronged one, while the victim or concerned observer is the offender. Figure and ground are completely reversed. [...] The offender is on the offense and the person attempting to hold the offender accountable is put on the defense.
No.
Who said anything about staying home? This is one of the accusations being made, and it’s intellectually dishonest. I’ll vote downticket for conservatives, and likely for Goode in the presidential slot.
Women in Massachusetts are walking into clinics today, plunking down two twenties and a ten, and getting their abortions thanks to Romney. Dead is dead. Both he and Obama have blood on their hands.
Look at Romney’s record of appointing judges. The majority were baby-killing leftists. Again, as guilty as Obama on that score.
Maybe I’m speaking in a foreign language here, but I thought I made clear that the influence on my decision is my loyalty to God, not my anger at the GOP. Even if I get over that, I still have to do the right thing. You can argue with me all day, but there it is.
Douglas Foy is not an avowed communist.
Thank you
Waste my vote? Let’s get something straight here. My duty is to vote, not to pull the lever for the person you deem acceptable. Research the Founders’ views on that issue.
Choosing the lesser evil is still choosing evil. You can do that if you like, and attempt to justify it if you like. I’m not going to vote for that abortion/sodomite loving, gun-grabbing, tax-raising, global-warming believing liberal. I might as well go over to the Democratic party.
How is Romney any less dangerous than Obama? Explain that to me, please!
The only “truth” that I am concerned about at this point in time is that Mitt is NOT Obama. That’s all that matters.
"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."
The classic symptoms, as described at the top of this thread.
I said she was not Van Jones. She's just a far left socialist, Obama supporting, environmental whacko, who finds a lot more in common with Van Jones than you want to admit.
Splitting hairs is just another form of denial.
There are several issues where I do not agree with him and places he has wavered in the past, or maybe been moved by voter sentiment. As I said, he was not the candidate I favored. But, I am going to do all I can to end Obama's time in office.
I am not jumping for joy over the outcome of the primaries but, I am remembering Ronald Reagan's comment that he could always work with someone whom he agrees with 80% of the time. Regarding Obama; we agree on nothing.
"And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the -bellum omnium in omnia*-, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression."-- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Samuel Kercheval, Monticello, July 12, 1816
Jesus taught the parable of the talents. He did not approve of those who do not put to use what has been given to them.
You have the opportunity to make a difference in the world. To change the future that all who can see know that Obama will bring in a second term.
Or you can bury your talents in a hole in the ground called “3rd party dreaming” and “it’s not my fault.”
I guess you missed the news about him signing the model for ObamaCare into law in Massachusetts.
I agree with everything you say about Romney. But Obama is destroying America on purpose. That has always been his plan. I don’t think Romney will do that. That is a very big difference between the two.
Here are your choices put another way:
A. Stay at home, don’t vote for Romney (or) against Obama - lose the country to socialism along with our rights, our freedoms, our wealth, and our ability to create wealth for ourselves and our children.
B. Vote for Romney, we have a chance to save our Republic.
These are your choices pure and simple.
IMHO, anyone who doesn’t go out and vote for whoever is the Republican candidate, is either very naive and is living in a fantasy world, or is a Marxist and wants to see the collapse of America to be replaced with a socialist police state.
Wow. That post exhibits the symptoms to the nth degree. I’m in awe.
“Romney believes in free economy and the enabling of American entrepreneurship.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You’ve been drinking way to much of that Romney Flavor-Aid!!!! LOL!
A hardcore Leftist believing in free economy and the enabling of American entrepreneurship is freaking illogical. If you believe that lying SOB you are more deluded than you realize. You are so lost it isn’t even funny.
But if you honestly believe him I have a bridge to sell ya in Brooklyn! I’ll make an offer you can’t refuse! LOLOLOLOLOL!
When someone tells me to pick my poison, I simply say "no."
>>Splitting hairs is just another form of denial. <<
Telling Putin to wait until a second term is not splitting hairs. Van Jones SAYING that he is a Communist is not splitting hairs.
How about the Muslim Brotherhood?
>>When someone tells me to pick my poison, I simply say “no.” <<
And get poisoned anyway.
Sorry, I have kids who will live with the consequences of my actions.
Thanks, I strive to be awe-inspiring.
One of two people will be elected this November. I’m voting for the one who isn’t Obama.
I’d vote for you if you were the other person.
I will not be complicit in the destruction of the country.
Romney is uncomfortable, but is not inviting the Jihadis in.
Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may use:
- simple denial: deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether
- minimisation: admit the fact but deny its seriousness (a combination of denial and rationalization)
- projection: admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility.
The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction. The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape.
Denial of fact
In this form of denial, someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details to tailor a story (omission), or by falsely agreeing to something (assent, also referred to as "yessing" behavior). Someone who is in denial of fact is typically using lies to avoid facts they think may be painful to themselves or others.
Denial of responsibility
This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by:
- blaming: a direct statement shifting culpability and may overlap with denial of fact
- minimizing: an attempt to make the effects or results of an action appear to be less harmful than they may actually be, or
- justifying: when someone takes a choice and attempts to make that choice look okay due to their perception of what is "right" in a situation.
Someone using denial of responsibility is usually attempting to avoid potential harm or pain by shifting attention away from themselves.
For example: Troy breaks up with his girlfriend because he is unable to control his anger, and then blames her for everything that ever happened.
Denial of impact
Denial of impact involves a person's avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms of his or her behavior has caused to self or others, i.e. denial of the consequences. Doing this enables that person to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent him or her from developing remorse or empathy for others. Denial of impact reduces or eliminates a sense of pain or harm from poor decisions.
Denial of awareness
This type of denial is best discussed by looking at the concept of state dependent learning. People using this type of denial will avoid pain and harm by stating they were in a different state of awareness (such as alcohol or drug intoxication or on occasion mental health related). This type of denial often overlaps with denial of responsibility.
Denial of cycle
Many who use this type of denial will say things such as, "it just happened". Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. The pain and harm being avoided by this type of denial is more of the effort needed to change the focus from a singular event to looking at preceding events. It can also serve as a way to blame or justify behavior (see above).
Denial of denial
This can be a difficult concept for many people to identify with in themselves, but is a major barrier to changing hurtful behaviors. Denial of denial involves thoughts, actions and behaviors which bolster confidence that nothing needs to be changed in one's personal behavior. This form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. Denial at this level can have significant consequences both personally and at a societal level.
Romney is the destruction of the country. You're in denial.
When someone tells me to pick my poison, I simply say “no.”
Then someone else will step up to the plate and choose it for you. You still get poisoned and it’s your own fault.
Kind of like a 2 year old who refuses to eat anything you offer him for lunch, then cries saying that he is hungry.
>>Romney is the destruction of the country.<<
Bull.
He is a RINO lib but isn’t inviting Muslim Brotherhood members to advise our security. Nor playing footsie with the Russians.
You’re in denial. You need to talk to some Chaldeans and some Eastern Europeans. They will tell you the signs that are already in place.
That's a Red Herring, since as governor, Romney never had a chance to get involved with the Brotherhood.
But, I have no doubt that he would be kissing their fannies if it meant him getting election.
I do not yet know what I will do except voting conservative down ticket. I will not vote for Romney. Frankly, I am more concerned about any attempts to water down and or pervert the GOP platform during the 2012 convention than I am concerned about the RINO 'conservative' figurehead they are propping up.
Yes, the FR collectivists tend do this even when you face them with facts and even when they know the facts.
They have cognitive dissonance - discomfort caused by holding conflicting ideas, beliefs, values, etc.
You’ll have to help me out here. I don’t understand the “hardcore leftist” assertion. I’ve heard a lot of soundbites that can make him sound good or bad on either side. But I’m trying to look at what our future compares to between the two of them and can’t accept that Obama is no worse.
Pitifully, you are in denial of the situation, EV.
While those who are choosing the non-Communist/non-muslim loving Marxist, see exactly who we are forced to choose, you are in total denial about the situation we will be in if Communist loving/Muslim loving Marxist Obama continues his Presidency.
I did my time as the Office Manager for Psychiatrists. Sometimes there is denial and sometimes there is projection. Those who won’t look at the big picture and scream “denial” while seeing the situation with tunnelvision, are projecting.
Rinos chose the blue pill, Conservatives chose the red
We see the machine is the monster, and the America we remember is dead
No popularity contests...but a lifelong war we will endure...
GENTLEMEN. Our Kings are Corrupt. So then, let Our Revolution be Pure. :^)
Nonsense. Romney has already signaled what sort of people would work for him in the areas of foreign policy and defense. And these are not folks who are going to go against the latest destructive liberal fad.
Romney hires openly gay spokeman
Again, you're in denial.
Yup.
Considering that voting for either extremist Leftard for POTUS is a wasted vote you gotta find someone to write in. Might as well be the only viable alternative - Sarah.
>>But, I have no doubt that he would be kissing their fannies if it meant him getting election.<<
They are in the administration now.
http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=255538&R=R4
Your #71 is a great post. Thanks.
LOL!!!
So gays are communists and Jihadis?
On what planet?
On this planet. The exact same people in Washington who kiss up to the homosexuals kiss up to the jihadis.
If you can’t win an election, how do you plan on winning a revolution?
Sorry, EV, but this is not a new venture. This candidacy has been mentioned for some time now. There is no really good explanation why it isn’t on your website already.
Kiss up is not the same as BEING.
You’re projecting.
You said it yourself quoting another poster!
“There is rightful angst about his history in liberal Massachusetts but, I think some folks are going overboard. One post here says he is “the most liberal governor ever”.”
Hello, McFly! Liberalism is also known as Leftism, collectivism, communism, fascism, socialism, etc.
Why do you think that poster said that? What was Obamacare modeled on? Romneycare! And what is Romneycare??? It is collectivised health care. And have you seen how Romneycare is destroying the budget year after year is Massachusetts? It is so over budget it isn’t even funny.
Why do you think they call Massachusetts, Taxachusetts? Is it because they keep taxes low?
Did you know that Romney’s father had dealings with Saul Alinsky? Ever heard of Alinsky?
That would be a Pyrrhic victory:
A Pyrrhic victory is a victory with such a devastating cost to the victor that it carries the implication that another such victory will ultimately cause defeat. At a purely technical level someone who wins a "Pyrrhic victory" has been victorious in some way. However, the heavy cost involved in winning and/or the unpleasant consequences which follow completely destroy any sense of achievement or profit. There is therefore no reason for celebration.
So half of the Republicans vote for 24 little splinter groups, or write in Porky Pig or Minnie Mouse. Obama wins, but you get to say "Ha ha ha, Obama, most people didn't vote for you, neener neener." Meanwhile, the Obama administration emerges intact, with Eric Holder still lying about Operation Fast and Furious, Janet Napolitano still declaring that our border with Mexico is safer than ever, and Obama's policies like catch and release for illegal aliens still in effect. Celebrate your big Pyrrhic victory as Obama adds several more trillions to our debt and writes his own legislation through Executive Orders and departmental decrees. Boy, you sure defeated Obama, didn't you?
Sure there is. It’s a question of priorities, in a campaign that is 100% grassroots and volunteer.
We don’t have hundreds of paid hacks like the opposition.
And we don’t focus on personalities. We focus on principle.
But, in any case, unlike my opponents, I’ve made myself available for more than four years, at least twice a week, for any American to ask me any question they want. So the idea that something is “anonymous” just doesn’t line up with reality.
You are simply not at home in a Two-Party System. No thinking man could be. That's why are European cousins have 5-6-8 parties and coalition governments, which aren't much good, either.
However, it's what we've got. Conservatives MUST NOT, IMNSVHO, fall into a "Shiite" ideology. That is, we probably ought not to court Armageddon, so we can rebuild anew in a purified Constitutional America.
The Romney creature has built a superior ground organization right across the country that has ... at HIS great cost and expense ... crushed, I say crushed ... several people whose ideas for restructure appeal far more to me than his. So, it looks as if he will be the nominee.
If that nomination comes to pass, back the silly SOB in the general election with your whole heart and soul, while working like the dickens to restore the House and Senate to some semblance of Constitutional order.
If we go off on some Third Party Wank right now, one might as well concede the next 25 years to the Democrat Party. The restoration of a constitutional republic, if it is to occur at all, will take 10 years at least ... 5 mid-term elections... and maybe 2 Presidents.
>>Boy, you sure defeated Obama, didn’t you? <<
But at least there won’t be any gays in the WH...
wait...what?
I don't like the idea of national health care. But, the Massachusetts plan was not national. I also understand that what was passed has been changed a lot by the liberal state legislature. Romney says health care taken on by states is their right and privilege and he doesn't support a national effort.
I think that's a good idea. States that want a health care plan can create it and then people who want to move there or leave there have the opportunity to do so. A national plan would be a disaster because of the whims of future congresses. I think Romney has said the same thing.
Did you notice what's happened to our Foreign Policy, Immigration Policy and Energy Policy while people were arguing about birth control pills?
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