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Denial ain't just a river in Egypt - Republican conservatives can't handle the truth about Romney
Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | April 27, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 04/27/2012 6:57:39 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

Tom Hoefling

April 27, 2012

I deal on a regular daily basis with self-identified conservatives all across America who are addicted to the Republican Party. And when it comes to the impending nomination by their party of the most liberal governor in U.S. history, Mitt Romney, their reactions are overwhelmingly in line with the classic symptoms described below. We can't make them face reality, of course. All we can do is to keep pointing it out to them, in the sincere hope that they will recover in time to help save the country. 

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From Wikipedia :

Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may use:

The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction. The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape.

Denial of fact

In this form of denial, someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details to tailor a story (omission), or by falsely agreeing to something (assent, also referred to as "yessing" behavior). Someone who is in denial of fact is typically using lies to avoid facts they think may be painful to themselves or others.

Denial of responsibility

This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by:

Someone using denial of responsibility is usually attempting to avoid potential harm or pain by shifting attention away from themselves.

For example: Troy breaks up with his girlfriend because he is unable to control his anger, and then blames her for everything that ever happened.

Denial of impact

Denial of impact involves a person's avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms of his or her behavior has caused to self or others, i.e. denial of the consequences. Doing this enables that person to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent him or her from developing remorse or empathy for others. Denial of impact reduces or eliminates a sense of pain or harm from poor decisions.

Denial of awareness

This type of denial is best discussed by looking at the concept of state dependent learning. People using this type of denial will avoid pain and harm by stating they were in a different state of awareness (such as alcohol or drug intoxication or on occasion mental health related). This type of denial often overlaps with denial of responsibility.

Denial of cycle

Many who use this type of denial will say things such as, "it just happened". Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. The pain and harm being avoided by this type of denial is more of the effort needed to change the focus from a singular event to looking at preceding events. It can also serve as a way to blame or justify behavior (see above).

Denial of denial

This can be a difficult concept for many people to identify with in themselves, but is a major barrier to changing hurtful behaviors. Denial of denial involves thoughts, actions and behaviors which bolster confidence that nothing needs to be changed in one's personal behavior. This form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. Denial at this level can have significant consequences both personally and at a societal level.

DARVO

Harassment covers a wide range of offensive behaviour. It is commonly understood as behaviour intended to disturb or upset. In the legal sense, it is behaviour which is found threatening or disturbing.

DARVO is an acronym to describe a common strategy of abusers: Deny the abuse, then Attack the victim for attempting to make them accountable for their offense, thereby Reversing Victim and Offender.

Psychologist Jennifer Freyd writes:

...I have observed that actual abusers threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of law suits, overt and covert attacks on the whistle-blower's credibility, and so on. The attack will often take the form of focusing on ridiculing the person who attempts to hold the offender accountable. [...] [T]he offender rapidly creates the impression that the abuser is the wronged one, while the victim or concerned observer is the offender. Figure and ground are completely reversed. [...] The offender is on the offense and the person attempting to hold the offender accountable is put on the defense.




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To: P-Marlowe
s it possible that you are in that river in Egypt?

No.

101 posted on 04/27/2012 9:20:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: netmilsmom

Who said anything about staying home? This is one of the accusations being made, and it’s intellectually dishonest. I’ll vote downticket for conservatives, and likely for Goode in the presidential slot.

Women in Massachusetts are walking into clinics today, plunking down two twenties and a ten, and getting their abortions thanks to Romney. Dead is dead. Both he and Obama have blood on their hands.

Look at Romney’s record of appointing judges. The majority were baby-killing leftists. Again, as guilty as Obama on that score.

Maybe I’m speaking in a foreign language here, but I thought I made clear that the influence on my decision is my loyalty to God, not my anger at the GOP. Even if I get over that, I still have to do the right thing. You can argue with me all day, but there it is.


102 posted on 04/27/2012 9:21:48 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: CharacterCounts

Douglas Foy is not an avowed communist.


103 posted on 04/27/2012 9:22:10 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: SoothingDave

Thank you


104 posted on 04/27/2012 9:25:00 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: SoothingDave

Waste my vote? Let’s get something straight here. My duty is to vote, not to pull the lever for the person you deem acceptable. Research the Founders’ views on that issue.

Choosing the lesser evil is still choosing evil. You can do that if you like, and attempt to justify it if you like. I’m not going to vote for that abortion/sodomite loving, gun-grabbing, tax-raising, global-warming believing liberal. I might as well go over to the Democratic party.


105 posted on 04/27/2012 9:27:08 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Baynative

How is Romney any less dangerous than Obama? Explain that to me, please!


106 posted on 04/27/2012 9:28:26 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: EternalVigilance

The only “truth” that I am concerned about at this point in time is that Mitt is NOT Obama. That’s all that matters.


107 posted on 04/27/2012 9:30:40 AM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: P-Marlowe
The key to balancing the budget, from the father of our Constitution, James Madison:

"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents."


108 posted on 04/27/2012 9:33:32 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: A. Patriot
The only “truth” that I am concerned about at this point in time is that Mitt is NOT Obama. That’s all that matters.

The classic symptoms, as described at the top of this thread.

109 posted on 04/27/2012 9:37:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: netmilsmom
Douglas Foy is not an avowed communist.

I said she was not Van Jones. She's just a far left socialist, Obama supporting, environmental whacko, who finds a lot more in common with Van Jones than you want to admit.

Splitting hairs is just another form of denial.

110 posted on 04/27/2012 9:38:36 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Romney believes in free economy and the enabling of American entrepreneurship. He believes we need to close our borders and enforce immigration law. He will not appoint communist sympathizers and political activists to the Supreme Court. He believes in a strong national defense. He supports the Keystone pipeline and energy independence. He an I align on these points.

There are several issues where I do not agree with him and places he has wavered in the past, or maybe been moved by voter sentiment. As I said, he was not the candidate I favored. But, I am going to do all I can to end Obama's time in office.

I am not jumping for joy over the outcome of the primaries but, I am remembering Ronald Reagan's comment that he could always work with someone whom he agrees with 80% of the time. Regarding Obama; we agree on nothing.

111 posted on 04/27/2012 9:41:05 AM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: P-Marlowe
"And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of the society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery, and to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering. Then begins, indeed, the -bellum omnium in omnia*-, which some philosophers observing to be so general in this world, have mistaken it for the natural, instead of the abusive state of man. And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression."

-- Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Samuel Kercheval, Monticello, July 12, 1816


112 posted on 04/27/2012 9:41:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: CatherineofAragon; netmilsmom

Jesus taught the parable of the talents. He did not approve of those who do not put to use what has been given to them.

You have the opportunity to make a difference in the world. To change the future that all who can see know that Obama will bring in a second term.

Or you can bury your talents in a hole in the ground called “3rd party dreaming” and “it’s not my fault.”


113 posted on 04/27/2012 9:45:29 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Baynative
Romney believes in free economy and the enabling of American entrepreneurship.

I guess you missed the news about him signing the model for ObamaCare into law in Massachusetts.

114 posted on 04/27/2012 9:45:49 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: CatherineofAragon

I agree with everything you say about Romney. But Obama is destroying America on purpose. That has always been his plan. I don’t think Romney will do that. That is a very big difference between the two.

Here are your choices put another way:

A. Stay at home, don’t vote for Romney (or) against Obama - lose the country to socialism along with our rights, our freedoms, our wealth, and our ability to create wealth for ourselves and our children.

B. Vote for Romney, we have a chance to save our Republic.

These are your choices pure and simple.

IMHO, anyone who doesn’t go out and vote for whoever is the Republican candidate, is either very naive and is living in a fantasy world, or is a Marxist and wants to see the collapse of America to be replaced with a socialist police state.


115 posted on 04/27/2012 9:47:02 AM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: SoothingDave

Wow. That post exhibits the symptoms to the nth degree. I’m in awe.


116 posted on 04/27/2012 9:47:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: Baynative

“Romney believes in free economy and the enabling of American entrepreneurship.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You’ve been drinking way to much of that Romney Flavor-Aid!!!! LOL!

A hardcore Leftist believing in free economy and the enabling of American entrepreneurship is freaking illogical. If you believe that lying SOB you are more deluded than you realize. You are so lost it isn’t even funny.

But if you honestly believe him I have a bridge to sell ya in Brooklyn! I’ll make an offer you can’t refuse! LOLOLOLOLOL!


117 posted on 04/27/2012 9:48:36 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: A. Patriot
IMHO, anyone who doesn’t go out and vote for whoever is the Republican candidate, is either very naive and is living in a fantasy world, or is a Marxist and wants to see the collapse of America to be replaced with a socialist police state.

When someone tells me to pick my poison, I simply say "no."

118 posted on 04/27/2012 9:48:41 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: CharacterCounts

>>Splitting hairs is just another form of denial. <<

Telling Putin to wait until a second term is not splitting hairs. Van Jones SAYING that he is a Communist is not splitting hairs.

How about the Muslim Brotherhood?


119 posted on 04/27/2012 9:50:13 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: EternalVigilance

>>When someone tells me to pick my poison, I simply say “no.” <<

And get poisoned anyway.

Sorry, I have kids who will live with the consequences of my actions.


120 posted on 04/27/2012 9:52:40 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks, I strive to be awe-inspiring.

One of two people will be elected this November. I’m voting for the one who isn’t Obama.

I’d vote for you if you were the other person.


121 posted on 04/27/2012 9:54:11 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: EternalVigilance; SoothingDave

I will not be complicit in the destruction of the country.

Romney is uncomfortable, but is not inviting the Jihadis in.


122 posted on 04/27/2012 9:54:58 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I'm watching these peoples' posts in amazement. They have the classic symptoms, but just can't see it. Even when the phenomenon is explained to them in exquisite detail right up front.

Denial (also called abnegation) is a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may use:

The concept of denial is particularly important to the study of addiction. The theory of denial was first researched seriously by Anna Freud. She classified denial as a mechanism of the immature mind, because it conflicts with the ability to learn from and cope with reality. Where denial occurs in mature minds, it is most often associated with death, dying and rape.

Denial of fact

In this form of denial, someone avoids a fact by lying. This lying can take the form of an outright falsehood (commission), leaving out certain details to tailor a story (omission), or by falsely agreeing to something (assent, also referred to as "yessing" behavior). Someone who is in denial of fact is typically using lies to avoid facts they think may be painful to themselves or others.

Denial of responsibility

This form of denial involves avoiding personal responsibility by:

Someone using denial of responsibility is usually attempting to avoid potential harm or pain by shifting attention away from themselves.

For example: Troy breaks up with his girlfriend because he is unable to control his anger, and then blames her for everything that ever happened.

Denial of impact

Denial of impact involves a person's avoiding thinking about or understanding the harms of his or her behavior has caused to self or others, i.e. denial of the consequences. Doing this enables that person to avoid feeling a sense of guilt and it can prevent him or her from developing remorse or empathy for others. Denial of impact reduces or eliminates a sense of pain or harm from poor decisions.

Denial of awareness

This type of denial is best discussed by looking at the concept of state dependent learning. People using this type of denial will avoid pain and harm by stating they were in a different state of awareness (such as alcohol or drug intoxication or on occasion mental health related). This type of denial often overlaps with denial of responsibility.

Denial of cycle

Many who use this type of denial will say things such as, "it just happened". Denial of cycle is where a person avoids looking at their decisions leading up to an event or does not consider their pattern of decision making and how harmful behavior is repeated. The pain and harm being avoided by this type of denial is more of the effort needed to change the focus from a singular event to looking at preceding events. It can also serve as a way to blame or justify behavior (see above).

Denial of denial

This can be a difficult concept for many people to identify with in themselves, but is a major barrier to changing hurtful behaviors. Denial of denial involves thoughts, actions and behaviors which bolster confidence that nothing needs to be changed in one's personal behavior. This form of denial typically overlaps with all of the other forms of denial, but involves more self-delusion. Denial at this level can have significant consequences both personally and at a societal level.


123 posted on 04/27/2012 9:56:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: netmilsmom
I will not be complicit in the destruction of the country.

Romney is the destruction of the country. You're in denial.

124 posted on 04/27/2012 9:57:45 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: EternalVigilance

When someone tells me to pick my poison, I simply say “no.”


Then someone else will step up to the plate and choose it for you. You still get poisoned and it’s your own fault.

Kind of like a 2 year old who refuses to eat anything you offer him for lunch, then cries saying that he is hungry.


125 posted on 04/27/2012 9:59:42 AM PDT by A. Patriot (Have we lost our Republic? Do the majority of Americans care?)
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To: EternalVigilance

>>Romney is the destruction of the country.<<

Bull.
He is a RINO lib but isn’t inviting Muslim Brotherhood members to advise our security. Nor playing footsie with the Russians.

You’re in denial. You need to talk to some Chaldeans and some Eastern Europeans. They will tell you the signs that are already in place.


126 posted on 04/27/2012 10:00:57 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: netmilsmom
How about the Muslim Brotherhood?

That's a Red Herring, since as governor, Romney never had a chance to get involved with the Brotherhood.

But, I have no doubt that he would be kissing their fannies if it meant him getting election.

127 posted on 04/27/2012 10:01:39 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
Romney pretty much has the nomination locked up and I am definitely not going to vote for him. Instead I am going to write in Sarah Palin’s name.

I do not yet know what I will do except voting conservative down ticket. I will not vote for Romney. Frankly, I am more concerned about any attempts to water down and or pervert the GOP platform during the 2012 convention than I am concerned about the RINO 'conservative' figurehead they are propping up.

128 posted on 04/27/2012 10:02:45 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: EternalVigilance

Yes, the FR collectivists tend do this even when you face them with facts and even when they know the facts.

They have cognitive dissonance - discomfort caused by holding conflicting ideas, beliefs, values, etc.


129 posted on 04/27/2012 10:04:47 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You’ll have to help me out here. I don’t understand the “hardcore leftist” assertion. I’ve heard a lot of soundbites that can make him sound good or bad on either side. But I’m trying to look at what our future compares to between the two of them and can’t accept that Obama is no worse.


130 posted on 04/27/2012 10:06:05 AM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: EternalVigilance; SoothingDave

Pitifully, you are in denial of the situation, EV.

While those who are choosing the non-Communist/non-muslim loving Marxist, see exactly who we are forced to choose, you are in total denial about the situation we will be in if Communist loving/Muslim loving Marxist Obama continues his Presidency.

I did my time as the Office Manager for Psychiatrists. Sometimes there is denial and sometimes there is projection. Those who won’t look at the big picture and scream “denial” while seeing the situation with tunnelvision, are projecting.


131 posted on 04/27/2012 10:07:32 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Rinos chose the blue pill, Conservatives chose the red

We see the machine is the monster, and the America we remember is dead

No popularity contests...but a lifelong war we will endure...

GENTLEMEN. Our Kings are Corrupt. So then, let Our Revolution be Pure. :^)


132 posted on 04/27/2012 10:07:56 AM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: netmilsmom
He is a RINO lib but isn’t inviting Muslim Brotherhood members to advise our security. Nor playing footsie with the Russians.

Nonsense. Romney has already signaled what sort of people would work for him in the areas of foreign policy and defense. And these are not folks who are going to go against the latest destructive liberal fad.

Romney hires openly gay spokeman

Again, you're in denial.

133 posted on 04/27/2012 10:09:05 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Yup.


134 posted on 04/27/2012 10:10:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: DBeers

Considering that voting for either extremist Leftard for POTUS is a wasted vote you gotta find someone to write in. Might as well be the only viable alternative - Sarah.


135 posted on 04/27/2012 10:10:23 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: CharacterCounts

>>But, I have no doubt that he would be kissing their fannies if it meant him getting election.<<

They are in the administration now.

http://www.jpost.com/International/Article.aspx?id=255538&R=R4

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/Latin-America-Monitor/2011/1123/In-debate-Romney-Perry-warn-of-Islamist-terrorists-in-Latin-America.-Are-they-right


136 posted on 04/27/2012 10:12:12 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Finny

Your #71 is a great post. Thanks.


137 posted on 04/27/2012 10:13:11 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: EternalVigilance

LOL!!!

So gays are communists and Jihadis?
On what planet?


138 posted on 04/27/2012 10:13:35 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: CatherineofAragon
It’s true. I have friends and family who don’t want to hear me talk about Romney’s record. I think the less they know, the more comfortable they will be pulling the lever for him.

Ditto that. Some of them practically put their fingers in their ears and go "la la la la la!"

How is anyone supposed to save this country if that's the attitude of so-called conservative voters? They deserve what's coming to them.
139 posted on 04/27/2012 10:13:52 AM PDT by Antoninus (Sorry, gone rogue.)
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To: netmilsmom

On this planet. The exact same people in Washington who kiss up to the homosexuals kiss up to the jihadis.


140 posted on 04/27/2012 10:15:51 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: AnTiw1

If you can’t win an election, how do you plan on winning a revolution?


141 posted on 04/27/2012 10:17:46 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: DBeers

Willard is my name and moving the country to the Left is my game! But don't worry! I'll tell you all the lies you want to hear that tickle your tiny little ears and those tiny little, non-thinking brains of yours!

I'm gonna polish these Turds of Collectivism, that you see parked behind me, better than my competitor across the street who's peddling the same pieces of crap! Plus, I'll throw in a lifetime supply of Flavor-Aid just like the Rev. Jim Jones used in Jonestown, Guyana! I will not be undersold!
142 posted on 04/27/2012 10:18:55 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Sorry, EV, but this is not a new venture. This candidacy has been mentioned for some time now. There is no really good explanation why it isn’t on your website already.


143 posted on 04/27/2012 10:20:14 AM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil! (the lesser of 2 evils is still evil))
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To: EternalVigilance

Kiss up is not the same as BEING.

You’re projecting.


144 posted on 04/27/2012 10:26:04 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Baynative

You said it yourself quoting another poster!

“There is rightful angst about his history in liberal Massachusetts but, I think some folks are going overboard. One post here says he is “the most liberal governor ever”.”

Hello, McFly! Liberalism is also known as Leftism, collectivism, communism, fascism, socialism, etc.

Why do you think that poster said that? What was Obamacare modeled on? Romneycare! And what is Romneycare??? It is collectivised health care. And have you seen how Romneycare is destroying the budget year after year is Massachusetts? It is so over budget it isn’t even funny.

Why do you think they call Massachusetts, Taxachusetts? Is it because they keep taxes low?

Did you know that Romney’s father had dealings with Saul Alinsky? Ever heard of Alinsky?


145 posted on 04/27/2012 10:26:51 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Finny
THEREFORE, I will vote third party for the express purpose of using my vote to make sure whichever disgusting socialist statist wins, Obama or Romney, has the slimmest, most devastating plurality possible. At this point, the thing that would give us the BEST chance of salvaging American freedom would be for Obama to win on a 34% plurality, with 66% of American voters on record as voting against him; it would mean that conservatives won a major battle in recovering the Republican party, it would mean Congress would go hard right in the mid-terms, and it would mean Obama's agenda would be very nearly dead in the water.

That would be a Pyrrhic victory:

A Pyrrhic victory is a victory with such a devastating cost to the victor that it carries the implication that another such victory will ultimately cause defeat. At a purely technical level someone who wins a "Pyrrhic victory" has been victorious in some way. However, the heavy cost involved in winning and/or the unpleasant consequences which follow completely destroy any sense of achievement or profit. There is therefore no reason for celebration.

So half of the Republicans vote for 24 little splinter groups, or write in Porky Pig or Minnie Mouse. Obama wins, but you get to say "Ha ha ha, Obama, most people didn't vote for you, neener neener." Meanwhile, the Obama administration emerges intact, with Eric Holder still lying about Operation Fast and Furious, Janet Napolitano still declaring that our border with Mexico is safer than ever, and Obama's policies like catch and release for illegal aliens still in effect. Celebrate your big Pyrrhic victory as Obama adds several more trillions to our debt and writes his own legislation through Executive Orders and departmental decrees. Boy, you sure defeated Obama, didn't you?

146 posted on 04/27/2012 10:29:43 AM PDT by Tarantulas ( Illegal immigration - the trojan horse that's treated like a sacred cow)
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To: xzins

Sure there is. It’s a question of priorities, in a campaign that is 100% grassroots and volunteer.

We don’t have hundreds of paid hacks like the opposition.

And we don’t focus on personalities. We focus on principle.

But, in any case, unlike my opponents, I’ve made myself available for more than four years, at least twice a week, for any American to ask me any question they want. So the idea that something is “anonymous” just doesn’t line up with reality.


147 posted on 04/27/2012 10:29:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (Romney Republicanism. Even Jimmy Carter can be comfortable with it.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Dear E.T.,

You are simply not at home in a Two-Party System. No thinking man could be. That's why are European cousins have 5-6-8 parties and coalition governments, which aren't much good, either.

However, it's what we've got. Conservatives MUST NOT, IMNSVHO, fall into a "Shiite" ideology. That is, we probably ought not to court Armageddon, so we can rebuild anew in a purified Constitutional America.

The Romney creature has built a superior ground organization right across the country that has ... at HIS great cost and expense ... crushed, I say crushed ... several people whose ideas for restructure appeal far more to me than his. So, it looks as if he will be the nominee.

If that nomination comes to pass, back the silly SOB in the general election with your whole heart and soul, while working like the dickens to restore the House and Senate to some semblance of Constitutional order.

If we go off on some Third Party Wank right now, one might as well concede the next 25 years to the Democrat Party. The restoration of a constitutional republic, if it is to occur at all, will take 10 years at least ... 5 mid-term elections... and maybe 2 Presidents.

148 posted on 04/27/2012 10:32:23 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk (So, Scalia, Alito, Thomas, and Roberts can't figure out if Obama is a Natural Born Citizen?)
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To: Tarantulas

>>Boy, you sure defeated Obama, didn’t you? <<

But at least there won’t be any gays in the WH...

wait...what?


149 posted on 04/27/2012 10:34:19 AM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Breitbart)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
I'm not arguing with you. I'm asking you to educate me with facts. Saying Romney is more liberal than Jerry Brown and Jimmy Carter is not fact.

I don't like the idea of national health care. But, the Massachusetts plan was not national. I also understand that what was passed has been changed a lot by the liberal state legislature. Romney says health care taken on by states is their right and privilege and he doesn't support a national effort.

I think that's a good idea. States that want a health care plan can create it and then people who want to move there or leave there have the opportunity to do so. A national plan would be a disaster because of the whims of future congresses. I think Romney has said the same thing.

Did you notice what's happened to our Foreign Policy, Immigration Policy and Energy Policy while people were arguing about birth control pills?

150 posted on 04/27/2012 10:35:57 AM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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