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Christian anti-cult expert Dr. Douglas Groothius on why he is voting for Romney
The Constructive Curmudgeon ^ | April 26, 2012 | Dr. Douglas Groothius

Posted on 04/27/2012 7:55:18 AM PDT by sonrise57

Why A Principled-Conservative, Bible-Believing Protestant, and Counter-cult Expert Will Vote for Mitt Romney 1. Politics is not the church. It is the art of the possible. Often we choose the lesser of two evils, which is also the evil of two lessers. It is a fallen world. Get over it. Be romantic and optimistic in the primaries (as I was with Michele Bachmann); then get realistic when things narrow down.

2. Protest votes are pointless. They send no message, except that you have robbed the better of the two candidates of a vote. Like it or not, we are stuck with a two-party system for the long haul. See M. Medved's chapter on the failure of third parties in "Ten Lies About America."

(Excerpt) Read more at theconstructivecurmudgeon.blogspot.ca ...


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KEYWORDS: cult; lds; mormonism; politics; romney; romneyobama
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Struggling and praying what to do in this up-coming election, particularly given my commitment to God to never vote for a pro-choice candidate, and my uncertainty about where Romney really is on issues that matter to me such as the life issue and other traditional values issues, the small government issue, the personal liberty issue, and so many other issues I am concerned about. This article by someone I truly respect has given me some clarity I think.
1 posted on 04/27/2012 7:55:25 AM PDT by sonrise57
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To: sonrise57

Is he also a blogpimp who posts blogs under News?


2 posted on 04/27/2012 7:56:34 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: sonrise57
ABL Anybody but Liberals. I won't vote for a liberal. Romney is a liberal.

/johnny

3 posted on 04/27/2012 8:14:53 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: sonrise57

If we don’t actively support “the lesser of the two evils,” then we get “the greater of the 2 evils.” (Remember 2008?)


4 posted on 04/27/2012 8:18:11 AM PDT by faithhopecharity (remember when "Four more years!" was a credible campaign slogan for an incumbent?)
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To: sonrise57

If you have indeed made a committment to God to never vote for a pro-choice candidate, I strongly recommend that you keep that vow.


5 posted on 04/27/2012 8:22:32 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: sonrise57
I greatly respect Dr. Groothius (pronounced "groat-heiss"), and have for years. Loved his book, "Truth Decay," and his interviews with Greg Koukl on Stand to Reason.

Nonetheless, I don't agree with his conclusions here.

I believe that me and my family will not suffer any more under Romney than under Obama, especially if conservatives (note not RINOs) control the Senate.

And I am not going to vote for Romney or Obama.

We must each do that of which we are convinced in our own minds.

6 posted on 04/27/2012 8:27:41 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: sonrise57

Your respected professor thinks mighty highly of himself. He starts the article with “Why A Principled-Conservative, Bible-Believing Protestant, and Counter-cult Expert Will Vote for Mitt Romney.”


7 posted on 04/27/2012 8:27:48 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: JRandomFreeper

At least here’s finally a thread where someone admits `pro-choice’ Romney is evil.
But instead of saying, `Run from him,’ this Christian anti-cult expert says, “Vote for him.’
So much for Matthew and, “If your eye offends you .... “. That’s just a bunch of words, like the Constitution.


8 posted on 04/27/2012 8:27:53 AM PDT by tumblindice (Our new, happy lives.)
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To: Resettozero

Yes, this is indeed my biggest obstacle. Southern Baptist leader Richard Land says that the problem evangelicals have with Romney is not hat he is a Mormon it’s that he isn’t Mormon enough since he waffles on such traditional Mormon values issues such as the sanctity of human life and traditional marriage. However Laura makes that argument that sanctity of human life conservatives should be excited that we have converted someone (that would be Romney) to our side. Not sure that he is really converted to the pro-life point of view. His actions speak volumes to the contrary.


9 posted on 04/27/2012 8:31:37 AM PDT by sonrise57 (Help us God for evil men have surrounded us.)
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To: sonrise57

I give up.

It is all in God’s hands now.

And I know he ain’t none to pleased...


10 posted on 04/27/2012 8:34:50 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: sonrise57

Richard Land, like a lot of the Christian elite (not to be confused with the GOP elite...necessarily), has decided to vote for “the lesser of two evils.” Follow him at your own peril.

Willard Romney is a construct, similar to our current President. There is nothing sincere in what he says or stands for.

And yes, many Christians will vote for him because of people like Richard Land, who really should stay out of politics and do the work he is supposed to do. But I and my house will not.


11 posted on 04/27/2012 8:39:09 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero
Your respected professor thinks mighty highly of himself.

His students tell a different tale. He is quite humble.

I think the sentence you mentioned is an attempt at an eye-catcher, not a commentary on his ego.

12 posted on 04/27/2012 8:40:40 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: sonrise57
There is a simple way to make the decision: do you believe this Republic will survive four more years of little barry bastard boy?

I am seeing this nation so close to collapse now and the strategy of Obama and his henchghoons working so effectively to end the sovereignty of We The People that I do not believe America will survive if the sonofabitch is allowed to rule for four more years. I believe it is the right thing to do to try and survive to make a better fight of it rather than allow the final assassination of The Republic via the Cloward-Piven crushing spending and the fascist regime now growing at an alarming pace as the thuggery running the Federal Government work daily to divide this nation's people into tribes pitted against each other and fomenting mayhem and murder along racila lines.

13 posted on 04/27/2012 8:40:57 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: sonrise57

Good post

(Politics) It is the art of the possible. Often we choose the lesser of two evil

This is REALITY

A principled vote in this instance is un principled

Feeling good about one’s purity will not be very comforting for long.

Christianity is about being in the world,not outside it and the REALITY of the world is there will be a choice to be made between Obama and Romney.
Its our job to make that choice .
If we are too good to make that choice we have punted


14 posted on 04/27/2012 8:41:59 AM PDT by woofie (It takes three villages and a forest of woodland creatures to raise a child in Obamaville)
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To: backwoods-engineer

I apologize to the respected and humble professor for thinking his writing is self-serving, bloated, and generally wrong.


15 posted on 04/27/2012 8:44:07 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: MHGinTN

You make a good point.


16 posted on 04/27/2012 8:45:35 AM PDT by sonrise57 (Help us God for evil men have surrounded us.)
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To: woofie

“A principled vote in this instance is un principled.”

Disagree. It is possible to vote but not for Romney or Obama and still remain active in “the game”, in reference to punting.


17 posted on 04/27/2012 8:46:57 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero; Psalm 144; All
Willard Romney is a construct, similar to our current President. There is nothing sincere in what he says or stands for.

100% agree. Which is why I think Obama is no more or no less a threat to liberty than Romney is. They both are bad for the country.

"They are both demons." (Psalm144, I know you didn't say that, but I am, using your words.)

18 posted on 04/27/2012 8:49:17 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: Resettozero
apologize to the respected and humble professor for thinking his writing is self-serving, bloated, and generally wrong.

Yes, like I said in posts above, I agree with you that he is wrong here.

19 posted on 04/27/2012 8:51:48 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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To: MHGinTN
I am seeing this nation so close to collapse now and the strategy of Obama and his henchghoons working so effectively to end the sovereignty of We The People that I do not believe America will survive if the sonofabitch is allowed to rule for four more years.

I agree with you 100%. Which is why I am not voting for Romney, even though it increases Obama's chances.

Huh?

Yes. The quicker we get to the point where most of the American people are feeling pain from this treasonous government, then quicker it can be dispatched, and the more quickly we return to Constitutional order. Pain and blood are along the quickest path back to the good. The slow path only extends suffering.

20 posted on 04/27/2012 8:55:42 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (I will vote against ANY presidential candidate who had non-citizen parents.)
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