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Reports: DOD (Hussein) deploys F-22 fighters near Iranian border
The Hill ^ | 4/27/12 | Carlo Munoz

Posted on 04/27/2012 3:39:43 PM PDT by Libloather

Reports: DOD deploys F-22 fighters near Iranian border
By Carlo Munoz - 04/27/12 04:00 PM ET

As tensions continue to rise between Washington and Tehran, the White House upped the ante this month by sending a squadron of advanced U.S. fighters to Iran's doorstep.

The Air Force has reportedly begun rotating a squadron of F-22 Raptors to Al Dhafra Air Base in the United Arab Emirates. UAE is directly to the south of the Iranian coastline, separated by the Straits of Hormuz.

Aviation Week first reported the details of the Raptor deployments.

Air Force spokesman Capt. Phil Ventura would not confirm the Raptor was headed to Al Dhafra, but said the next-generation fighter jets were en route to a deployment somewhere in Southwest Asia.

“Such deployments strengthen military-to-military relationships, promote sovereign and regional security, improve combined tactical air operations and enhance interoperability of forces, equipment and procedures," he told Aviation Week on Thursday.

If true, the Raptor deployments are only the latest instance of what could be seen as a burgeoning military buildup in the Persian Gulf region.

The Navy has doubled the number of mine-hunting ships patrolling the Straits, which is the only entry point for military and commercial vessels heading for the Persian Gulf, Chief of Naval Operations Adm. Jonathan Greenert told reporters in March.

Service leaders have also begun outfitting U.S. destroyers and cruisers in the Persian Gulf fleet with powerful Gatling guns.The weapons are ideal for taking out the small, fast-moving patrol boats the Iranian navy commonly uses to patrol the Straits.

Aside from that buildup, House Republicans are crafting legislation to funnel DOD dollars into weapons and equipment that would be key in waging a military conflict against Iran.

“We are doing what we can to make sure [the United States] is protected … and that is what we are going to do,” House Armed Services Committee chief Rep. Buck McKeon (R-Calif.) told reporters during a March 21 briefing on Capitol Hill.

Last Wednesday, Tehran announced that a number of areas in the Persian Gulf would be off limits to U.S. warships in the region, and would treat any incursion into those waters as threat to Iran.

"We have warned [foreign naval forces] before that some areas in the Persian Gulf are considered by us as zones of threat and they should not stop in those areas," Major General Ataollah Salehi, commander of the Iranian Army, told the state-run Fars News Agency.

Tehran set off a seemingly dangerous game of one-upmanship with Washington and its allies when it threatened to take control of the Straits in January.

Weeks of diplomatic saber-rattling between the two countries eventually forced Iran to back off, but not before it banned U.S. Navy warships from entering the waterway.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aldhafraairbase; border; dod; f22; iran; raptors; unitedarabemirates; war; waronterror
It's go time - in an election year? The Muslim Brothahood must be jazzed.
1 posted on 04/27/2012 3:39:51 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather

No, the Raptors are there to prevent the Israelis from attacking Iran!


2 posted on 04/27/2012 3:42:18 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Libloather

I will not be surprised at anything that happens between now an the election. I expect Soetoro to do something desperate and dangerous.


3 posted on 04/27/2012 3:46:06 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Libloather

It’s go time - in an election year? The Muslim Brothahood must be jazzed.

No reason for F/22’s there. We could defeat their air defenses with much less. Sounds more like we’re about to give them one of our most advanced fighters to go along with the drone he gifted them with earlier


4 posted on 04/27/2012 3:46:38 PM PDT by Figment
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To: Libloather

If he’s going to attack Iran, then he was an idiot for taking our troops out of Iraq.


5 posted on 04/27/2012 3:47:05 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: MindBender26
No, the Raptors are there to prevent the Israelis from attacking Iran!

No, one of them is there to crash-land in Iran so they can help the Russians and Chinese reverse engineer as much of it as possible.

6 posted on 04/27/2012 3:48:33 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Libloather
They will be destroyed by long range missiles flying from one of our many friends in the region. Mark my word, Husseins trying to level the playing field and allow the Moslems to enjoy a fair dogfight.

It's about sharing the wealth with our enemies in the Moslem Brotherhood.

7 posted on 04/27/2012 3:48:33 PM PDT by STD ([You must help] people in the communityÂ…feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless)
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To: Libloather

Wonder how long before one of these Raptors “crashes” where the Iranians can get their hands on it.


8 posted on 04/27/2012 3:49:52 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Da Bro' Gotsta Go!)
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To: MindBender26
The worse prediction I ever made was in 2008 when I thought for sure that if Obama were to win, that Israel or Bush would go ahead and attack Iran knowing that Obama would not allow an attack under his administration.

Now, with Barry's poll numbers looking bad, I am expecting him to attack either Iran or North Korea.... or, have one of his twisted foreign allies attack us so he can respond. I hope I am wrong. I think our window of opportunity to attack has long passed.

9 posted on 04/27/2012 3:49:52 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: MIchaelTArchangel; Pearls Before Swine
Very sadly, you are probably right.

Why Hussein's supporters can't see how dangerous he is to them and their own families is mind boggling. I guess some people really can't see past skin color.

10 posted on 04/27/2012 3:52:27 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: Libloather

China and Russia really want this. They need to test countermeasures.


11 posted on 04/27/2012 3:55:40 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“No, one of them is there to crash-land in Iran so they can help the Russians and Chinese reverse engineer as much of it as possible.”

Fits nicely into Hussein’s plan for total distruction of this Country.


12 posted on 04/27/2012 3:56:12 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: MIchaelTArchangel

And similar to the drone, if 0bama disallows the complete destruction of a disabled or crashed F-22 in Iran, uhhhh.. Well.. The Congress will send him a nasty letter?


13 posted on 04/27/2012 3:58:10 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: allmost

Right, and US media is describing exactly which arsenal we are deploying so the bad guys need not roll out the wrong countermeasures and air defenses.


14 posted on 04/27/2012 3:59:02 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Libloather
you just know damn well this is NOT the Air Forces idea...
15 posted on 04/27/2012 3:59:51 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: FreeAtlanta

We can’t attack North Korea without China’s permission.


16 posted on 04/27/2012 4:00:08 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Exactly the direction of thought that I was going to post... glad I read ahead before posting. Anyway, good post!
We will see over the next year a string of unfortunate "accidents" as our technology is transfered to countries O's handlers are telling him to get current on his payments.
They don't want to risk losing the chance to get him to pay up now... he might not be in the position more than 8 or so months.
17 posted on 04/27/2012 4:01:15 PM PDT by JSteff ((((It was ALL about SCOTUS. Most forget about that and HAVE DOOMED us for a generation or more.))))
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To: Libloather

Why isn’t this information TS/code word?


18 posted on 04/27/2012 4:01:50 PM PDT by FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
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To: Libloather
Something is very wrong with this. We can easily put down anything the Iranians have with F-15s, F-18s, and F-16s.

This is exposing our best and highest tech for no good reason...unless of course he want it to threaten someone other than the Iranians...like the Israelis and keep them from taking the Iranians down.

19 posted on 04/27/2012 4:02:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Surprising how many of us are thinking the same thing.

I guess it means we really, really, don’t trust Obama.


20 posted on 04/27/2012 4:06:43 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: shalom aleichem
I try to remain ignorant of the ‘msm’ except in discreet packets, could you fill me in?
21 posted on 04/27/2012 4:10:26 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Libloather

Oh, gee, the same Raptors they said were horrible, useless and too expensive... go figure.


22 posted on 04/27/2012 4:10:40 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Libloather

i fully expect a few of them to have ‘technical malfunctions’ and somehow end up landing, fully intact, on an iranian runway

the chinese won’t need them.. we shipped them the plans 2 years ago and they’ve already started rolling out fighters

but don’t worry... 35% of our aircraft are drones... /sarc

oh, sure... the drones can be co-opted by the chinese (either that or we gave them the drones... which is better??)


23 posted on 04/27/2012 4:13:39 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: MindBender26
No, the Raptors are there to prevent the Israelis from attacking Iran!

That was my thought as well. Are there AWACS and tankers deployed with them? Otherwise, that's a long way south from where the Israelis would be flying, and where the main targets are as well.

24 posted on 04/27/2012 4:16:00 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

They don’t need AWACS.


25 posted on 04/27/2012 4:26:43 PM PDT by kneehurts
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To: MindBender26

Yep ...


26 posted on 04/27/2012 4:30:12 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Libloather

Strategically, why deploy the F-22s?

The Iranians have no Air Threat to speak of.


27 posted on 04/27/2012 4:34:41 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: FedsRStealingOurCountryFromUs
Why isn’t this information TS/code word?

Makes Hussein look tough? After all, Gaffemaster Biden says the rookie has "steel in his spine".

28 posted on 04/27/2012 4:52:28 PM PDT by Libloather (The epitome of civility.)
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To: Libloather

He might as well just give Iran and Russia a fully intact plane and be done with it.


29 posted on 04/27/2012 4:54:20 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

We had 1/4 million troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Add in sea power In the straits and that is enough to make a dictator STB.

So what does the boy king do?


30 posted on 04/27/2012 4:58:05 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Solyent Pink is Sheeple!!!!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

He is clearing out all the troops. Maybe he decided pinpoint treatment won’t work for the cancer of Islam and it needs a radiation treatment. One can hope.


31 posted on 04/27/2012 5:07:24 PM PDT by wrencher
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To: Libloather

bfl


32 posted on 04/27/2012 5:24:57 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: MindBender26

Probably the more correct take on this. But they could be there for additional reasons as well.


33 posted on 04/27/2012 5:42:48 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Donate here!



34 posted on 04/27/2012 6:58:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Usagi_yo
Do you really think that would slow Hussein and his lefty narcissistic gang down?

Lefties scare the public that conservatives are dangerous, but the left are the ones who get us in uncontrolled warfare.

35 posted on 04/27/2012 7:52:17 PM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: kneehurts
They don’t need AWACS.

To do what?

36 posted on 04/28/2012 12:22:31 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Jeff Head
We can easily put down anything the Iranians have with F-15s, F-18s, and F-16s.

SEAD perhaps? Lead the way in for the heavies, or fighter bombers. But the heavies could come from Diego

37 posted on 04/28/2012 12:25:49 AM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Libloather

He should be Deploying them to Bomb the Missile sites in Venezuela and Cuba that Iran Is Building there to target The east Coast of the United States


38 posted on 04/28/2012 5:22:39 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Bryan24

The Iranians have no Air Threat to speak of.

They do have advanced Ground to Air systems (Tor-M2s and maybe S300s) from Russia ... as the poster said - Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses (SEAD). This role is secondary for a F-22, but perhaps, in this case, necessary for a primary role.

Debka has more
http://www.debka.com/article/21955/


39 posted on 04/28/2012 6:01:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

40 posted on 04/28/2012 6:09:22 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: PIF

SEAD? Why put your premier, top-of-the-line, air superiority fighter into forward positions to do a secondary role when you have cruise missiles and stealth bombers to suppress the Ground-to-Air in prep for a nuclear reactor strike?

Iran isn’t about to attack out of their borders through the air.

Publicly deploying F-22s does nothing but alert the Iranians that we are preparing to strike.

The logic of this move escapes me.


41 posted on 04/28/2012 6:19:00 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24
The logic of this move escapes me.


Only if you assume only the Iranians will be involved...

Maybe because any air attack will have to go through the Russian Navy stationed off the coast of Syria and their radar stations in the Syrian Golan and the Russian Naval facility at Tartus, Syria?

The Russians may have radar specs for the other planes but not the F-22. Using the others first, the Russians will simply notify the Iranians what is coming where, when.

This is assuming that the Russian Naval air elements (SU-35s et al) at Tartus do not engage the first wave. Russia is determined that Iran will not be another Libya ... which is why Russia has top-of-the-line air to air radar, air to ground missiles, and airframes stationed in the area manned by Russians.

Or maybe, as someone suggested, to give the Russians active Intel on F-22 capabilities?

42 posted on 04/28/2012 7:22:56 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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