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We want to defeat Obama and his retinue decisively and for all time; however, there are considerations to be made regarding the selection of a 'qualified' vice-presidential candidate to join George Romney's son.
1 posted on 04/28/2012 7:41:00 AM PDT by IbJensen
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John McCain was born in the Panama Canal Zone, at the time when that was American territory. His father was stationed in the military there. So he was born on American soil of American parents, even though that American soil was outside the confines of the then 48 states. If that matters to anyone.


2 posted on 04/28/2012 7:47:54 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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If the Rinos pick Rubio than you know that the jig is up. We are no longer a democratic republic and have gone the way of Rome. I hope and pray that they can stick to the constitution and still win. There has been one credible challenge to NBC by a Federal Judge just the other day. I won’t hold my breath over it though.


3 posted on 04/28/2012 7:50:09 AM PDT by RichardMoore (There is only one issue- Life: dump TV and follow a plant based diet)
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The “natural born citizen” two-parents-plus-birth-on-US-soil argument has failed in every court that’s heard it. It’s why the Supreme Court has turned down without comment all such cases that have been appealed to it. And it’s why the Vattel birthers do not have the slightest hope of ever prevailing on the two-citizen-parents-plus-US-soil claim in any US court of law.

The Court in US v. Wong Kim Ark found — 6 to 2 — that the children of resident aliens were themselves both “natural born” and “citizens.” In so doing — and in specifically mentioning in their majority opinion the fact that natural born citizenship was a qualification for President — they made clear that they found such US-born citizens Constitutionally eligible to run for, and serve as, President.

Vattel lovers must get a grip on things. Our founders relied upon Blackstone and the English common law, not this Swiss person. You are a citizen of the soil regardless of your parents and that is a FACT. Besides how does one PROVE the citizenship of his parents? By your birth certificate? LOL! Your existance in most cases begins in a hospital. They gather the information from the mother and issue a birth certificate. No one verifies the citizenship of the mother or the father. They can say anything they want. The mother can claim any father she wants. You Vattel fanatics, can you conclusively prove that Abraham Lincoln’s parents were natural born citizens? If all you’ve got is Abe’s BC, that is no proof. The only think you can prove about Abraham Lincoln is that he was born in the U.S. which makes him a natural born citizen. I’m going out on a limb here because I don’t really know if he had a BC; wasn’t he born in a log cabin? My point is a birth certificate can say anything it wants to and the only thing it proves is where a child is born....that is the only indisputable fact.

In Obama’s case I believe his BC is a forgery. If he was born in HI then he is constitutionally eligible to serve as president. If he was born in Kenya like I suspect then he is not.


4 posted on 04/28/2012 8:41:02 AM PDT by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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Williams talks about “the fraud of 2008 when America seated its first non-Natural Born Citizen in the Oval Office.” That actually happened when Chester Arthur became president, as his father was a Canadian citizen at the time of his birth. There was some controversy over this in 1880 when he was nominated for VP, but for some reason it didn’t take hold.


20 posted on 04/28/2012 9:39:38 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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You will generate hundreds of post with this common sense observation, the lawyer types will call you a dumb birther, but they wont be able to destroy your facts and conclusions. The piling on begins with the first ignoramus posting the same old misinformation about McCain.

NBC has generated more static than any other topic than the old Clinton threads and what used to be windows-Mac wars.

Stand by for the charge.

26 posted on 04/28/2012 10:06:16 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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64 posted on 04/28/2012 12:21:34 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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I ashamedly admit I was so involved in the subject I'd forgotten to say “Thank You!” for posting an article on the subject that actually had all the facts straight.
102 posted on 04/30/2012 7:11:17 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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