Okay, I’ve been chastised.........
But then, what are we saying? We’re saying that John McCain, Barack Obama, Marco Rubio, and Rick Santorum are all ineligible to be president, under this natural born citizen clause???????
Can someone, without calling me an A-—hole or other insults, tell us if the courts have ever ruled on the exact meaning of “natural born citizen”? Many people seem to think it means that you were born in this country. Others say that your own parents have to also have been American citizens at the time of your birth? Who is right?
I apologize a zillion + times and much, much more for my rudeness to you.
I just get so frustrated with folks who still think Panama Juan was not born in Colon, Republic of Panama. The truth has been out concerning where he was actually born for about the last 3 years. Like any congresscrook, he lied in his book.
The Kenyan bastard and Marco Rubio are not natural born citizens…the bastard’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Rubio because his Cuban parents were not U.S. citizens at the time of Rubio’s birth.
I know nothing about Rick Santorum’s family history other than his father, Aldo Santorum (1923–2011), a clinical psychologist who immigrated to the United States at age seven from Riva del Garda, Italy, and Catherine (Dughi) Santorum (b. 1918), an administrative nurse of Italian American and Irish American descent. In other words, I don’t know when Aldo got his U.S. citizenship papers.
I am more concern about Mitt Romney. His father, George, was born in Mexico and therefore a Mexican citizen. Questions that need to be asked and answered: When did George get his U.S. citizenship? Before Mitt was born? After Mitt was born? Or not at all and lived a lie throughout his life?
Since I live in Panama, I don’t have accesses to the research I need to answer those questions about George Romney, which would lead to the truth about Mitt’s eligibility status.
Again, my sincerest apologies to you.
Minor v. Happersett in 1874 is the closest I've seen. It repeats Vattel almost word for word.
Many people seem to think it means that you were born in this country. Others say that your own parents have to also have been American citizens at the time of your birth? Who is right?
It's the citizenship, not the location. The primary source is the father. Just as a child traditionally takes the father's name, the child 'inherits' the citizenship... a lot like eye or hair color.
This is natural born jus sanguinis citizenship, or citizenship by blood.
The other type is a naturalized citizen. This type is jus soli citizenship, or citizenship by soil.
People think the 14th Amendment grants a third kind, a 'native born' citizen that's the same as a natural born, but this is questionable.
Even if the Amendment DID grant some type of citizenship, that citizenship will still not be natural-born, because he was made a citizen by the law of Man, not the Laws of Nature.
Thus the term NATURAL born.
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We’re saying that John McCain, Barack Obama, Marco Rubio, and Rick Santorum are all ineligible to be president, under this natural born citizen clause???????
McCain - natural - not only was his father a citizen, Vattel makes exception in the Law of Nations for men in military service.
Barack Obama - naturalized at birth IF he was born in Hawaii
Marco Rubio - naturalized. He became so as a child when his parents were naturalized.
Santorum - natural born - Despite going to Mexico, his father never renounced his citizenship.
Hope that helps. :-)