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Paul Ryan Suddenly Decides That He Hates Ayn Rand
New York Magazine ^ | 4/27/2012 | Dan Amira

Posted on 04/28/2012 11:29:19 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Yesterday, Ryan claimed that Ayn Rand's philosophy "reduces human interactions down to mere contracts and it is antithetical to my worldview." But in 2005, Ryan said, "The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand," and in 2003, he claimed that he gave out copies of Atlas Shrugged as Christmas presents. And those two examples are really only the tip of the Rand-love iceberg. Is this how you impress Mitt Romney? By proving that you can flip-flop as egregiously as


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: aynrand; paulryan; rand
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1 posted on 04/28/2012 11:29:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Looks like Paul is getting the Alinsky treatment from mindless numb nuts who cannot reasonably attack his budget proposal...


2 posted on 04/28/2012 11:39:56 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: nickcarraway

Rand is exciting when first read, but she is not the ultimate philosopher. It is OK to outgrow her.


3 posted on 04/28/2012 11:40:40 AM PDT by greatvikingone
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To: nickcarraway

You can love the book “Atlas Shrugged”, and credit Ayn Rand for shaping your views, without actually accepting her viewpoint. Apparently, the concept that your views are shaped by hearing alternate views is something beyond the grasp of a typical journalist.


4 posted on 04/28/2012 11:42:42 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: greatvikingone

Agreed.

Rand never took into account the possibility of a huge communist nation, taking the role of “Galts Gulch”.

Unfortunately, neither have any of her adherents.

(of which I once was)

“Free trade” is a large part, of America’s decline.


5 posted on 04/28/2012 11:43:03 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Yeah. Her ideas on government relations with the citizens can be good while not having to accept living in a world without people in general.


6 posted on 04/28/2012 11:49:49 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Are you implying that America's entrepreneurial class packed up and moved, holus-bolus, to China?

If so, in what way is free trade to blame (as opposed to a myriad of other government actions, which dull the competitive edge)?

7 posted on 04/28/2012 11:53:22 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

No offense, but all of that is sophistry.

I care not about all the theory and blame.

I simply opine that America has given away, and will never get back, the thing which most contributed to American power.

“Free trade” has been a historic blunder by America, and treachery by those who have contributed, for nothing more than monetary gain.

Selling out one’s own country for monetary gain, is called treason.


8 posted on 04/28/2012 11:57:51 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Funny thing is many have come back to the USA for quality reasons.


9 posted on 04/28/2012 12:00:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; nickcarraway; darkwing104; greatvikingone; CharlesWayneCT; ...
Rand never took into account the possibility of a huge communist nation, taking the role of “Galts Gulch”.

Well, without a magical invisibility shield, China is about as close to being able to implement Galt's Gulch as you can find ove rthe pasy decade.

Will it be able to sustain? Probably not. Neither could Rand's fantasyland. Dagny the only chick in town? It was headed for disaster.

Anyhow, Rand's philosophy about capital and commerce was ok, but her application of it to brutal, loveless passion between men and women as the only rational relationship was weirdness. That's the way genius goes I guess. Get one thing right, and misapply it to everything.

10 posted on 04/28/2012 12:00:56 PM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
“Free trade” has been a historic blunder by America, and treachery by those who have contributed, for nothing more than monetary gain. Selling out one’s own country for monetary gain, is called treason.

That is non-sensical hyperbole.
Specificallt WHO sold out America? And what problem do you have with "monetary gain", ie., making money?

11 posted on 04/28/2012 12:12:49 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I have a problem with monetary gain, which results in American loss.

That is treason.

Couldn’t be any simpler. All the rest is distraction.


12 posted on 04/28/2012 12:15:13 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Obama ate his own dog as a child in Indonesia??)
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To: nickcarraway

We never did get part two of that movie, did we....


13 posted on 04/28/2012 12:21:18 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t care. I find Rand dull and naive. I’ve yet to figure out why ppl get all excited about her. Atlas Shrugged is an utter bore.

Hand in there Ryan.

Santorum 2012


14 posted on 04/28/2012 12:23:24 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: greatvikingone

Very well put


15 posted on 04/28/2012 12:26:06 PM PDT by Maryhere ("HE comes to rule the earth")
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To: CharlesWayneCT; darkwing104; greatvikingone

I saw an obviously heavily edited video of Mike Wallace interviewing Ayn herself. Her eyes were darting back and forth and her admissions were damaging (although as I say must have been edited a lot because they do nto jive with her real beliefs in some instances) So Ryan probably saw this hit video where a lot of Republicans are shown saying they were influenced by Ayn etc, and making them look horrible by painting her as a witch. A huge Alynsky/media/rat tactic is to attribute to their targets “everything” an objectionable person stands for or says unto their target. Such as if Romney would say he listens to Rush, they then accuse Romney of believing and standing for EVERYTHING Rush espouses. Crazy. [But NEVER attribute any of Rev Wright’s crap to Bambi or Mooch-elle - his 20 year disciples]


16 posted on 04/28/2012 12:27:25 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: nickcarraway

I don’t see how Ryan could say he is a acolyte of Ayn Rand and vote for TARP and endorse the auto company [union] bailouts.


17 posted on 04/28/2012 12:27:45 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: nickcarraway

Great job of standing on your principles, Paul. But then, I doubt he ever understood Rand anyway.


18 posted on 04/28/2012 12:32:14 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: greatvikingone

There is much in Rand that is correct, some even inspiring, and some of it just blighted. But nobody makes the moral case for market capitalism, rather than the practical case, more passionately.


19 posted on 04/28/2012 12:33:33 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: shalom aleichem
Rand was one of my influences.

I still remember her commercial for the New York Daily News. They had a campaign where they had writers (from Rand to Jimmy Breslin) endorse the paper. Literally the only words you could make out in the entire ad were "Ayn Rand" and "Daily News." But given the fervency of her acolytes (somewhat like the Paulies), that was probably enough.

20 posted on 04/28/2012 12:37:14 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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