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NM governor's grandfather not an illegal immigrant, became a US citizen in 1942
Newser ^ | Apr 27, 2012 4:03 PM CDT i | BARRY MASSEY |

Posted on 04/28/2012 12:46:28 PM PDT by Red Steel

(AP) Ever since taking office last year as the nation's first Hispanic female governor, New Mexico's Susana Martinez found her family tree scrutinized over whether her grandfather was an illegal immigrant.

Documents obtained by AP, however, show that he was lawfully admitted to the U.S. as a permanent resident in 1918 and became a citizen in 1942, something not even Martinez knew and a discovery that removes a potential trouble spot for someone talked about as an attractive Republican vice presidential prospect for Mitt Romney.

Martinez was surprised at the news, ...

The first-term governor insists she's not interested in and wouldn't accept a spot on the ticket. But resolving the questions lifts a "hot potato off her plate," said Larry Sabato, director of the University of Virginia's Center for Politics.

"It's been a controversy and it's always mentioned when her name comes up in connection with the vice presidency," he said. "Does it help her? Sure, if Romney has any interest in her and if she has any interest in accepting, if offered."

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News accounts about a 1930 census initially fueled the idea that Martinez's paternal grandparents had illegally entered the country. The census used an "AL" to designate that her grandparents were "aliens."

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she initially accepted media accounts and acknowledged that it appeared her grandparents had come to the U.S. without immigration documents.

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The AP obtained a "certificate of naturalization," dated April 6, 1942, from the National Archives Southwest Region center in Fort Worth, Texas.

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Sabato said questions about a candidate or elected official's family history are fair game in politics, and doubts that she would suffer much damage even if her family had entered the country illegally.

"Maybe it would be more fair if everybody were subjected to the same scrutiny," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at newser.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New Mexico
KEYWORDS: 2012; birther; certifigate; immigration; moonbatbirther; naturalborncitizen; susanamartinez; vpcandidate
Sabato - "Maybe it would be more fair if everybody were subjected to the same scrutiny," he said.

You mean Obama. Too many people with their heads in the sand to go there.

1 posted on 04/28/2012 12:46:30 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Now that Rubio has excluded himself from the VP by getting a stiff FEC fine, Martinez is next up on the pile.


2 posted on 04/28/2012 12:54:57 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Romney barely won in OH with a 12-1 money advantage, he can't beat Obama that way.)
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To: Red Steel

They used the whole illegal alien grandfather against her when she was trying to keep illegals from getting driver’s licenses.


3 posted on 04/28/2012 12:59:13 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Red Steel

This matter of eligibility is clearly simmering on the back burner of the liberal mindset. Believe me, Sabato is no conservative.


4 posted on 04/28/2012 1:01:09 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: Thunder90

Martinez for Veepee!


5 posted on 04/28/2012 1:01:34 PM PDT by Perdogg
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To: Red Steel
The naturalization document.


6 posted on 04/28/2012 1:06:24 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Earned square and honestly like most people back then were committed to do.

And he still had to wait years to become a full citizen!


7 posted on 04/28/2012 1:13:08 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (If case you are wondering, I'm STILL supporting Newt.)
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To: Red Steel
AP scourers everything everywhere to dig up stuff on repub.

They scourer “Dreams of My Father” when it comes to Oblamer.

8 posted on 04/28/2012 1:14:03 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Red Steel
AP scourers everything everywhere to dig up stuff on repub.

They scourer “Dreams from My Father” when it comes to Oblamer.

9 posted on 04/28/2012 1:14:46 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: Red Steel

Thanks for posting this.


10 posted on 04/28/2012 1:17:34 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Red Steel

“New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez threw cold water on speculation that she could be the running mate for the Republican presidential nominee, telling the Albuquerque Journal Sunday that family concerns would keep her in New Mexico.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/04/09/new-mexico-gov-martinez-says-no-to-vp-speculation/#ixzz1tMuMPZpp

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And I agree. Thanks for posting this.


11 posted on 04/28/2012 1:24:41 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: Red Steel

Help me out here.... why would anyone possibly care if her grandparents came here legally or not???


12 posted on 04/28/2012 1:45:01 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: bigdaddy45

Martinez is NBC. Rubio is not. Therein lies the catch. Wish I could explain it better, but others here are much more qualified and knowledgeable.


13 posted on 04/28/2012 2:40:25 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: Red Steel

In light of the Palin precedent, she should say, “no thanks,” and run on her own merits in 2016.


14 posted on 04/28/2012 4:29:48 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Newt says, "A nominee that depresses turnout won't beat Barack Obama.")
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To: sueQ

I had no idea you were the final authority on who is NBC.
So pray tell us, is Obama NBC? His father was never a US citizen. Would you please rule on his NBC status so we can depose him? Or are you going to leave it to the US congress who has no problem with it obviously, and SCOTUS is not interested in taking on the case.


15 posted on 04/28/2012 4:38:15 PM PDT by entropy12 (Winning is the only thing...coach Vince Lombardi. Losers in elections have zero power.)
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To: entropy12

18 Supreme Court justices agreed. Obama is NOT an NBC.


16 posted on 04/28/2012 6:17:54 PM PDT by edge919
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To: entropy12

Not really sure why you want to pick a fight with me. Can you explain? Martinez is a NBC, Rubio is not. NBC is required to be POTUS. I am not the final authority. The Constitution is.


17 posted on 04/28/2012 6:52:59 PM PDT by sueQ
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To: sueQ

Not meaning to pick a fight with you. I am just tired of conservatives attacking their own. Have you ever seen a liberal or a democrat attack Obama’s NBC status? Only conservatives display this self-destructive trait of eating their own.

Here we have Obama, with a fake birth certificate parading around as POTUS for 3.5 years. Obviously the powers that be are giving him NBC status. Your thinking otherwise and mine certain he is not NBC does not address reality on the ground. Obama has been obviously accepted as NBC by congress and courts. If that is so, I will give a pass to any good republican who has an authentic birth certificate proving he/she was born on US soil. That includes Rubio & Jindal, both good republicans and 1000 times better than Obama, Reid or Pelosi as leaders.


18 posted on 04/28/2012 9:07:05 PM PDT by entropy12 (Winning is the only thing...coach Vince Lombardi. Losers in elections have zero power.)
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To: sueQ

Then I’ll ask again. If she’s NBC, who cares if her grandfather was here legally or not?


19 posted on 04/28/2012 9:49:18 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: entropy12

There’s a difference between “attacking their own” and standing up for the Constitution. And second, nobody has given Obama NBC status. The powers that be are ignoring and/or trampling on the Constitution.


20 posted on 04/28/2012 10:44:08 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919; entropy12
"And second, nobody has given Obama NBC status. The powers that be are ignoring and/or trampling on the Constitution."

One could say that they wanted to confer eligibility on Zero, however. At the very least, the timing of their legislative hijinks is highly suspect.

21 posted on 04/28/2012 11:43:25 PM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome (If not you, who? If not now, when?)
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To: entropy12

Reply to number 18.

If you give Rubio and Jindal a pass because Obama is ineligible, where does it end? Whats next? Anchor babies? Al Queda kids? How bout all those Palestinians moving to the US via Obama.


22 posted on 04/29/2012 12:49:29 AM PDT by jdirt
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To: jdirt

It ends by defeating Obama, Reid majority leadership & keeping the house. I am most worried about my college age kid’s economic future than any other issue. If no jobs, then anchor babies won’t matter. Mexico grew faster than US recently. There is a NEGATIVE flow of illegals back to Mexico.


23 posted on 04/29/2012 9:11:25 AM PDT by entropy12 (Winning is the only thing...coach Vince Lombardi. Losers in elections have zero power.)
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To: edge919

I only deal with reality as it exists on the ground. Not my wishful thinking. You and I do not get to decide what is constitutional. It is the congress and SCOTUS. The sooner we get it, the better we will be. That does not mean you can not vote your conscience. But it is time to NOT waste time on issues which are settled. Such as Obama’s presidential qualifications. Let us spend our energy on denying him 2nd term instead of pontificating on NBC status of Rubio or Jindal. Keeping proper priorities front and center is the smarter move.


24 posted on 04/29/2012 9:16:48 AM PDT by entropy12 (Winning is the only thing...coach Vince Lombardi. Losers in elections have zero power.)
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To: tiki
In those days that southern border was about as fluid as the Rio Grande itself. The salient point, I think (and I'm still trying to sort it out), is that she was born in the United States of parents who are American citizens. That would include territories held by the United States or out of country in United States facilities(i.e. US Army overseas).
25 posted on 04/29/2012 2:29:48 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: ArmyTeach

PS: You all know as much as I on this point. I’m no expert. I just find myself reading whatever I can find on the subject of NBC.


26 posted on 04/29/2012 2:37:08 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Our liberties we prize and our rights we will maintain ... USS Iowa BB 61)
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To: bigdaddy45

Our previous governor, Bill Richardson made sure that illegals could get driver’s licenses legally and Governor Martinez tried to change that. The liberals tried to shame her because they told her that her grandfather was an illegal too. If she had known this at that time she could have shut them up.

Another reason, is that she has been mentioned as a vice presidential pick and unlike Obama whose citizenship and past is ignored, the news media bought into what the liberal NMexicans brought up for a gotcha and found that, low and behold, her grandfather actually came here legally and then became a citizen.

I’m just surprised that they didn’t just drop it when they found out.


27 posted on 04/29/2012 5:25:22 PM PDT by tiki
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To: entropy12
I only deal with reality as it exists on the ground. Not my wishful thinking. You and I do not get to decide what is constitutional.

Well, this isn't technically true. This is why the first amendment preserves the right for a redress of grievances, and why the amendment process is voted on and/or ratified by the states.

But it is time to NOT waste time on issues which are settled. Such as Obama’s presidential qualifications.

Obama's presidential qualifications are NOT settled, except for being ineligible for office. As I said, the powers that be are ignoring the Constitution on this issue. Just because they are doing this is not a reason for us to ignore it too. If we don't fight for what's right, then more Constitutional rights will be taken away.

28 posted on 04/30/2012 12:10:29 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919
Obama's presidential qualifications are NOT settled, except for being ineligible for office.

That SOB is still enjoying living in the WH with free meals, no rent, free use of AF-1 747 jet, appointed 50 Czars, issued countless executive order and ALL ARE BEING ENFORCED, shoved Obamacare down our throats, burdened our future generations with $ Trillions in useless Stimulus & other spending, on and on and on. I wish it would be all declared null and void but I won't hold my breath.

If we don't fight for what's right, then more Constitutional rights will be taken away.

I have very limited resources to fight Obama. I will focus those resources on funding his opponent and some real conservative candidates for Senate and house. Fighting Obama's ineligibility is a noble goal, but it is not looking good. I have lived my life by focusing on achievable goals.
29 posted on 04/30/2012 10:33:38 AM PDT by entropy12 (Winning is the only thing...coach Vince Lombardi. Losers in elections have zero power.)
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