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Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 29 April 2012
Various driveby media television networks ^ | 29 April 2012 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

Posted on 04/29/2012 5:02:32 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2012/04/unreal-eric-cantors-pac-urges-dems-and-independents-to-vote-for-luger/

Seems some fires need to be lit under Cantors butt until he gets it. TEA party candidates are to be supported not dissed.He has to pay a price.


151 posted on 04/29/2012 1:12:11 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: bray

Scary,thees bozos don’t seem to have a clue where government spent money comes from!! You just gotta wonder.


152 posted on 04/29/2012 1:13:39 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Miss Marple

Thanks for the analysis.

I actually think Romney has the potential to rise to the occasion, both as a candidate and as a president, if elected.

As you say he is smart, and has smart and experienced advisers.


153 posted on 04/29/2012 1:14:42 PM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: tarheelswamprat; All
Thanks for stopping by tarheel, get better soon,you are in all our thoughts and prayers.

You are right as well. Bahbah--Barbara I think, she was from SC, was a tireless Freeper who followed show after show every Sunday and was unparalleled when it came to keeping us up on what was happening on show after show.She will always be missed here.

154 posted on 04/29/2012 1:18:43 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Forty-Niner

Exactly the worst part is that its a huge lie to say we only have 2% of the world’s reserves.Our reserves are unparalleled and truth be known will proably rival any producer out there once fully proven.


155 posted on 04/29/2012 1:21:21 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: rodguy911

Amazing isn’t it, that Zero can get away with this.

If we could actually develop our natural resources, we would be out of this recession in a heartbeat. Energy creation would have this economy humming along.

Zero’s actions on this issue alone, should be enough to demonstrate his true intentions.

And I agree with whoever it was up stream, who says the future is “more dire than most are prepared to accept”. Never thought I would have these thoughts abut my country and our future.


156 posted on 04/29/2012 1:28:28 PM PDT by MustKnowHistory
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To: tarheelswamprat; bray; rodguy911; Miss Marple; Bahbah
You are right, my FRiend, and it was indeed dear FReeper Bahbah who was our top reporter on what was said on the shows. I still miss her and her wonderful reports, among other things. Still, and in fairness, we have many excellent Sunday show reporters, such as most recently Bray, posting on the Krugman on the Meet the Press roundtable a few moments ago. Rodguy911, along with the weather and fishing reports from the Florida keys, goes out of his way to post DNC Dave Gregory's weekly mind mumblings, too.

Perhaps we need another round of reporter badges passed out, and I'll certainly encourage all to post what they see on the shows, but I really don't think that's been the issue.

Free Republic has changed. It has gotten courser and people here have gotten more mean spirited, and thread fights between two hard heads can go on for hundreds of posts.

Also, Free Republic is middle aged now, and the vibrancy of its youth, when we were taking on Bill Clinton, grifter, and the wooly headed liberals and move on (dot org) is no longer our defining issue. The terror attacks and the Bush years also wore us out, and I think that 2008 really depressed so many of us, that despite all our efforts, Zero still managed to fool enough to win, and we didn't have a way to challenge those who attacked Sarah and spread lies...

Fast forward a year or so and there came the TEA party, I honestly think it was inspired and encouraged by so many on this site. We did well to regain the House of Representatives given such a huge deficit in numbers the Republicans had. But in reality, the red states just got redder and the blue states stayed the same, and we've lost a lot of ground in Colorado, Nevada and Virginia.

There is still a HUGE fight ahead of us and now is not the time to pale and leave. As Miss Marple said up thread, we must overcome our fear and speak out. We might be banned from here, but we cannot give up.

Now I still content that our biggest enemy has not been political but cultural, and by that I'd mention the biggest, and that is the media. They still get away with their lies. Witness the latest, the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin spectacle, and how easy it is for them, in their lies, to fire up a whole country into an outrage that's grossly misplaced.

So yeah, last week I was ready to give it up, but y'all have re-inspired me.

I'll say one last thing to EVERYONE: Do not feed the trolls. If others come on this thread disputing what you say, argue plainly, calmly, but do not fall into their trap of getting you angry.

157 posted on 04/29/2012 1:29:29 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: MustKnowHistory
Agreed our entire future is scary as hell.It has to be handled with care and with rational thought putting the interests of the country first for a change and politics at least second.Our best chance of course lies with our side,to think other wise would be foolishly naive.
158 posted on 04/29/2012 1:34:36 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Well said AB well said.


159 posted on 04/29/2012 1:37:00 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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To: Alas Babylon!
It's like On the Beach.

You might appreciate the reference with your handle :-)

160 posted on 04/29/2012 1:41:34 PM PDT by Tribune7 (Oh, the irony)
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To: rodguy911; Alas Babylon!
Well said AB well said.

Second that. Thanks to you both for all that you do.

161 posted on 04/29/2012 1:54:15 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: Alas Babylon!
...argue plainly, calmly, but do not fall into their trap of getting you angry.

I ordinarily hate to quote a movie catch line, but this is irresistible:

Nobody's ever seen me angry.

(Pardon the late post, but I've been over visiting No. 1 grandson. Kid's been looking for a job for two solid years, had absolutely bupkis for results and I went over to tell him that Grandma and I are going to make him our hired man out on the Homestead to keep him from going over to The Bakken.....which might be "a sure job for big bucks", but the drivers/roads/work over there is killing somebody every four or five days.)

162 posted on 04/29/2012 2:06:30 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((264 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: Miss Marple
...one I may use elsewhere, if you don’t mind

Hi, Miss Marple. If you can use it, please do. I, for one, appreciate your posts. You seem to be able to cut to the chase.

163 posted on 04/29/2012 3:46:20 PM PDT by Gritty (Probe with a bayonet. If you meet steel, stop. If you meet mush, then push.-Vladimir Lenin)
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To: acapesket

I didn’t catch that. Interesting. Maybe the deaths have stopped? Naw, that would be too easily disproved. Bush did do a lot for many countries in Africa. 0zero? Not so much. And remember, in 2007 we began the Pelosi/Reid rule.


164 posted on 04/29/2012 3:48:07 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: philo
You can't comment on anything if no one posts what was said. The first thing every Sunday I used to do was to check this thread. We would have around 500 comments as posters would transcribe what was being said on the shows for the people who weren't able to see the shows.

Sorry, I dropped my cable and lost the Sunday Drive-bys. I'll get it back if it means saving this thread.

165 posted on 04/29/2012 4:27:20 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Miss Marple
I just now got the chance to read your reply. Unless our worlds are completely different, I see no enthusiasm for Romney from Conservatives (I know of the usual faux-conservatives and their sites). What I do see are a lot of folks who are disgusted with the choices (presently), including myself.

I completely understand the objective of defeating Obama, believe me. But if I'm asked to set aside my principles in order to do so (as I view a vote for Romney entails), what I'm actually doing is voting against my values.

Now, I'm not critical of those who want to overlook the numerous flaws with the presumptive GOP nominee in attempting to defeat Obama. Just be prepared, this guy has a history of running Left and I anticipate a huge move shortly. It will be up to you to decide how far you want to go in supporting him (Obamacare, abortion rights, bigger centralized government, etc). But understand, there are a lot of us who see the principles of the Tea Party as our line in the sand, a line which we're not willing to cross. A vote for one opposed to those principles, whether Democrat or Republican, isn't going to happen.

166 posted on 04/29/2012 4:37:40 PM PDT by Rational Thought
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To: Rational Thought
Well, here's what I think. Both choices suck, but those are what we have. So the issue for me is which one sucks worse?

I can't violate my principles because Sarah didn't run, so I'm not casting a vote against her. And I do think that sometimes a vote can be against someone, and not necessarily one I'd promote on its own (like Romney).

Both Obama and Romney may be liberals, but Obama is far MORE liberal. And Obama HATES the United States, Her founding fathers, and the white middle class. I really, truly believe that. I don't think Romney does, as Romney's in it for Romney. That is the KEY difference.

But hell, no one listens to what we're saying; their minds are made up. And that is all well and good, but do NOT (and I'm not saying you are Rational Thought, but others have) call me a Romneybot, a traitor, an unpatriotic American. That has been the stab in the back from other FReepers that gets me so riled up. That it comes from the highest echelons here really hurts.

Again, we are wrong in their eyes. Fine. But we are NOT traitors and Romneybots. And to those who would vote for Romney over Obama, those who refuse and have drawn a line in the sand are not lunatics, extremists or Obama-lovers.

Did I mention both choices suck? Still, why go after fellow FReepers with hatred and venom because of this? The whole thing sounds like Trosky versus Stalin and the purges after wards. The propensity to make other people's thoughts demonic is what bothers me most.

167 posted on 04/29/2012 5:03:44 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: acapesket

I didn’t catch that. Interesting. Maybe the deaths have stopped? Naw, that would be too easily disproved. Bush did do a lot for many countries in Africa. 0zero? Not so much. And remember, in 2007 we began the Pelosi/Reid rule.


168 posted on 04/29/2012 6:11:08 PM PDT by Morgan in Denver (Democrats: the law of unintended consequences in action.)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Moved from a nebook to a full grown Lap top. Please keep this site, I’ve gone to it first thing every Sunday a.m. I dont contribute because I read it later in the day and the convo is kinda over. But please keep it...its been a part of my life since the “stop hillary” days..,,(wow, the good old days...whodda thunk it??) Thanks my FRiend Alas Babylon! put me (back?) on your Ping list!


169 posted on 04/29/2012 8:41:00 PM PDT by merryberry
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To: upchuck

She was the sharpest one on the panel. California not electing her as senator was a loss for the country.


170 posted on 04/29/2012 8:52:59 PM PDT by duckln
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To: Rational Thought

Here is my principle:

Save the country.

Obama is all about destroying it. Period. I want my grandkids to grow up in a free country. Romney might not rise to your lofty principles, but as I said, he’s good enough for me. He loves the country and wants his grandkids to have a free country.

So that is my principle. And I don’t know where you are. I am in Indiana, where we had a “RINO” governor (Daniels) who has saved the state. And whatever sites you visit, the ones I visit have come to terms with what we are dealing with.


171 posted on 04/29/2012 8:55:41 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple; Rational Thought

I will try to tone it down for the sake of the self-congratulations going on amongst these lo’ 170 posts or so.

But RT, you are one tolerant soul to venture onto the Establishment useful idiot choir loft here.

How the ladies auxillary and the biscuit eaters can expect to defeat Marxism by coddling a socialist because they’re scared, I’m just sure I don’t know either.

This sure isn’t about the country. It’s about FEAR. The fear voter rationalizes the evils of Romney as good, or better than worst, the fear of OBAMA the Terrible.

This will NEVER end. McConnell & Co. have been in the drivers seat for decades, election after election, handing us one RINO after another. With Rommell as the nominee, or as president, Mac & Co will vote for his ridiculously socialist agenda, where as Obama could offer up the same dang thing and they would stand there and fight him tooth and nail, just because he is Obama The Terrrible.

This election many are opting out, thankfully, and will take care of the contenders down ticket.

I am Pro Life, Romney is not. I am fightin’ mad that he seeded the ground in MA that became the dang template for the individual mandate (purely Marxist) and brought down the gates of Hell on Catholic hospitals to conform to the abortion provisions already in MA. Now we’re fighting for religious liberty coast to coast.

We know very well what the Rommel Record is in MA and voting for this man demonstrates how LOW we are willing to go for Peace and Security.

Clearly, I see that we deserve neither.

Was it Patrick Henry who said to that affect that “ he who would give up ? for Peace and Security deserves neither.”

Bank that. It’s on this thread. In spades.


172 posted on 04/29/2012 9:33:57 PM PDT by RitaOK (Nevermind, Newt. Forget the convention. I'm trusting God for the rest.)
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To: bray

Really enjoyed the read and well worth it bray....would you mind pinking me when you post as this? If you have a ping list?


173 posted on 04/29/2012 9:46:44 PM PDT by caww
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To: Miss Marple

I just read up on Bork and I have to say I’m impressed....looking at where he stands on the constitution is interesting. Reagan wanted him on the Supreme Court but the push to derail him worked so that he never made it. I think it was Scalia who made it instead.

So this to me is good news. If I’m wrong then someone needs to correct me.


174 posted on 04/29/2012 10:08:26 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Thank You.

It is the only one I am writing per week and then a local one about our fight against Light Rail here in Portland. Here is where you will see my stuff on national politics. Are you on Babylon’s ping list?


175 posted on 04/29/2012 10:21:07 PM PDT by bray (Power to We the People)
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To: caww

It was not Scalia it was Kennedy.


176 posted on 04/29/2012 10:24:44 PM PDT by superfries
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To: rodguy911
That was incredibly interesting....humm-mm....quite a different picture ,of course, then the one the media would have us believe in taking out Bin-Laden.

I truly questioned the photo they put out on why Obama was sitting in the back...and hardly noted. It didn't make any sense at the time I viewed it. But having read this it would fully explain that now.

Also I've read other articles along the way the Jarrett is the one calling the shots with Michelle's imput as well. Also there was alot of flake between Rham, Axelrod and Jarrett....and why they might have left.

Thanks for posting this. Does give one something to ponder.

177 posted on 04/29/2012 10:38:21 PM PDT by caww
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To: bray
No...am not on Babylons list.

It's been so refreshing reading posts on this thread and away from the drama. Though I understand many are venting their loss to Romney, and it needs to get out of the system to move forward....I think all this uproar on the threads has much to do with “emotional” release and people are saying things they might not say otherwise were this loss not so great.

I also think folks are trying to reach out to hold on something “stable” as they feel their nation slip away from them. Asking them to hook on with Romney isn't going to do the trick for them now, and some not even later, or ever. But I feel the dust needs to clear first....every ones dumbfounded, hurt, distraught, shocked, and the list could go on.

I'm trying to look at this as I did Bush when he ran...who I wasn't really excited about either......but when I saw the administration he was appointing I became, over time, more comfortable....and with that also knew were were headed for some rough waters ahead for the powerhouse he built around himself.

Romneys advisers of Bork and Bolton does say something..but will he change that once he's in???? They're both heavy lifters and don't take crap from others. But it sickens me still Romney is where he is....I just cannot vote for him ....I don't know how to bypass all that he opposes in what is all about our nations founding principles and that of conservative values..... and I cannot believe a word he says.... It's a terrible struggle....so it's been refreshing seeing people comment hear with reason and thought instead of all the defenses and rattling.

178 posted on 04/29/2012 11:52:33 PM PDT by caww
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To: superfries

Thanks....wasn’t sure about that as just finding out things about Bork...though it seems have heard of him when Reagan served.


179 posted on 04/30/2012 12:34:58 AM PDT by caww
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To: rodguy911

Is there a thread that discusses directly what’s in your post? Thanks!


180 posted on 04/30/2012 7:15:54 AM PDT by nfldgirl
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To: RummyChick

Ping to post #82, I was napping during Rush’s show today.


181 posted on 04/30/2012 6:12:57 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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To: lodi90

Ping to post #82, I was napping during Rush’s show today.


182 posted on 04/30/2012 6:32:52 PM PDT by Son House (The Economic Boom Heard Around The World => TEA Party 2012)
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