Worshippers killed in attack on Nigerian university

ABC ^ | April 29, 2012

[Milagros]

Nigeria Police say at least eight people have been killed in an attack on a church service at a Nigerian university in the northern city of Kano.

Explosions and gunfire rocked Bayero University, with witnesses reporting that two church services were targeted as they were being held on campus.

One of the services was being held outdoors, while the second was inside a building, but with an overflow audience outside, witnesses said.

Officials were unable to confirm casualty figures, but one correspondent counted six bullet-riddled bodies near one of the two sites and said other bodies had been seen on a roadside by the university.

Musical instruments and half-eaten meals could be seen at the site of one of the services.

An army spokesman confirmed the attack but could not provide a casualty toll.

Lieutenant Iweha Ikedichi said it appeared the attackers used bombs and gunfire in the assault.

Witnesses said the attackers arrived in a car and two motorcycles, opening fire and throwing homemade bombs, causing a stampede.

They said worshippers were gunned down as they sought to flee.

"They first attacked the open-air service outside the faculty of medicine," one witness said.

"They threw in explosives and fired shots, causing a stampede among worshippers. They now pursued them, shooting them with guns. ... They also attacked another service at the sporting complex."

A witness who said he was at the sporting complex at the time of the attack reported hearing gunshots outside while they were praying.

"Then there was pandemonium," he said, adding that he later saw two men outside shooting indiscriminately.

A crowd of people later gathered at a Kano hospital waiting to hear news about friends or family.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility, although the attack was similar to others carried out by the Islamist group Boko Haram.

Boko Haram claimed January 20 attacks in Kano, the largest city in Nigeria's mainly Muslim north, when coordinated bombings and shootings left at least 185 dead in the extremists' deadliest attack yet.

On Thursday, bomb attacks at the offices of the ThisDay newspaper in the capital Abuja and the northern city of Kaduna left at least nine people dead.

The group has previously targeted churches, including on Christmas day when at least 44 people were killed in a bombing at a church outside Abuja.

A bombing on Easter Sunday in Kaduna near a church that killed at least 41 people was a stark reminder of the Christmas attacks, but Boko Haram is not known to have claimed it.

Boko Haram's increasingly bloody insurgency has claimed more than 1,000 lives since mid-2009. Police and soldiers have often been the victims of such attacks, although Christians have been targeted as well.

[Edgar3]

Our lord Jesus is certainly reviled by the death cult.

[yldstrk]

satan you are a laughable ridiculous loser. Christ Jesus reigns. No Christian is afraid of dying. Just losers that follow laughable ridiculous losers are afraid of transferring to the real world.

[LomanBill]

"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;

 

...

 

 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "

 

"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"

--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786

http://religiousfreedom.lib.virginia.edu/sacred/vaact.html

 

[left that other site]

Prayers For Our Persecuted Brothers and Sisters. They are Heroes and Martyrs for the Faith.

[A Navy Vet]

Like many since 9/11, I have learned about the evil that is Islam and its hatred of infidels (non-believers). What I still don't get is their hatred of Christians and Jews. Doesn't Islam claim that Abraham is the ancestral father of all? I've read where Muslims believe Christ and Moses were prophets, although they don't believe Jesus is the son of god.

Can someone please explain to me why Muslims hate Christians and Jews who are not infidels. It makes no sense. And no, I don't want to go back and read the rambling Quran or the Hadiths.

[rktman]

Muslims killing Christians? Just fine. Part of their culture/tradition. Crusaders even saying anything bad about muslims? Bad! Deserving of no trial and instant beheading which is okay for them to do. Culture and tradition don’t cha know.

Helping keep mankind warm for almost 65 years.

[LomanBill]

>>They are Heroes and Martyrs for the Faith.

Allowing one’s self and one’s family to be pacified into McSheeple who are easily exterminated — is a sorry substitution for a spiritual life.

Just my opinion,

[LomanBill]

>>What I still don’t get is their hatred of Christians and Jews.

The hatred is deliberately manufactured through the process of Islam — which is a violent and tyrannical political system hidden behind a religious facade.

Observe the collaboration between Islam, Catholicism, and the Nazis circa 1933.

Same ol’ bullshyte.

[yldstrk]

Loman Bill

Your missive against the Catholic Church is ill-advised and not true.

[left that other site]

Coming to a Beloved Nation near you very Soon...perhaps already here.

I hear you.

[MNDude]

You gotta read til the end to find out it was Christians killed, but what was the religion that did the killing?

[LomanBill]

It’s historical fact.

[LomanBill]

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Catholic+Collaboration+with+Nazis+Muslims

FACT.

“I have sworn upon the alter of Almighty God eternal hostility to EVERY from of tyranny over the mind of man”
—Thomas Jefferson.

Indulgence that, Jack.

[left that other site]

Thank You, FRiend for defending me! :-)

I don’t even answer those feeble attempts at sarcasm. Such remarks will not deter me in my prayers for our Christian Brethren (Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, Evangelical, and Pentecostal)who are under the boot of Islam.

The present-day persecution of the Ancient Coptic Religion in the “New” MB Egypt is a perfect Example.

[yldstrk]

Billy

I am a Catholic conservative mom. Catholics today represent the primary line holders against divorce, abortion, homosexuality and are under severe attack from the administration. We don’t need to be under attack based on old tired prejudices that have been bandied about and disproved for years as lies and falsehoods.

Thank you

[Milagros]

You gotta read til the end to find out it was Christians killed

These are the fruits of CAIR lobby "guidelines" to Reuters, AP.

[LomanBill]

Pacified sheep to the McSlaughter.

NO SALE.

The only thing the Muslim Brotherhood, and those like them, will receive from me is ETERNAL HOSTILIY.

[Jay Thomas]

Answer is here: ROP, big surprise. Even so, come Lord Jesus!

[Jay Thomas]

Link didn’t come out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boko_Haram

[LomanBill]

>>These are the fruits of CAIR lobby "guidelines" to Reuters, AP.

Bingo. Easy To Use and Operate religiously indoctrinated McTerrorists.

[LomanBill]

Buzz off Parrot.

Me and mine won’t be pacified and sent to Elysium ala a manufactured dialectic religious facade for the benefit of a bunch of Eunch royal wanabe human bee keepers in silly hats.

[nixonsnose]

Muslims hate other Muslims who kneel differently or wear a different hat. It doesn’t have to make sense- they are crazy.

[nixonsnose]

I didn’t see it in the title, the short snip or the excerpt.
But I knew it anyway. If it was Christian doing the killing, it would have been front page news and in the title.

The problem is, it happens so often it is barely news.

Religion of peace.

[LomanBill]

>>they are crazy

And that is a predictable manufactured product, manifested when Individuals delegate responsibility for their world view to a religious proxy.

Instead of a logical framework of reason and Truth, operated by individuals for whom Almighty God hath Created the mind FREE - it is what it is: Collectively Sanctioned INSANITY.

Thus, Thomas Jefferson’s American religion had a denomination that was enumerated in single instances of free INDIVIDUALS.

[LomanBill]

>>Catholics today represent the primary line holders

You’re delusional.

Almighty God hath created the mind free and no Eunuch Parrots in the pulpit, wearing vestigial plumage left over from the Roman / Babylonian / Egyptian empires, are required to render the relationship between me and my Creator — or for me to perceive the self-evident truth of the culturally destructive nature of divorce, abortion, homosexuality, etc.

Now wave to the backside of my lifted kilt so that you, and the militaristic theocratic state jackwagon you rode in on, can kiss my arse.

Thank You,
=Billy

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Observe the collaboration between Islam, Catholicism, and the Nazis circa 1933.”

There was no such cooperation. Nazis and Muslims cooperated, but not Catholicism.

[LomanBill]

>>Nazis and Muslims cooperated, but not Catholicism.

Aucontraire:

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Catholic+Collaboration+with+Nazis+Muslims

“And the Truth will make you free”

[LomanBill]

>>There was no such cooperation.

Quack, waddle... bullshyte.

 

The Role of the Catholic Church in Yugoslavia's Holocaust

By: Seán Mac Mathúna

The Nazi collaborator Archbishop Stepinac (right) and the Vatican representative to fascist Croatia, Abbot Marcone (left).Croatia has recently renamed a village in Krajina after Stepinac.

During the Second World War in Yugoslavia, Catholic priests and Muslim clerics were willing accomplices in the genocide of the nations Serbian, Jewish and Roma population. From 1941 until 1945, the Nazi-installed regime of Ante Pavelic in Croatia carried out some of the most horrific crimes of the Holocaust (known as the Porajmos by the Roma), killing over 800,000 Yugoslav citizens - 750,000 Serbs, 60,000 Jews and 26,000 Roma. In these crimes, the Croatian Ustasha and Muslim fundamentalists were openly supported by the Vatican, and the Palestinian Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, who openly encouraged Muslims to join Nazi units that would be later implicated in crimes against humanity - the infamous Hanjar (or Handschar) 13th Waffen SS division. What united al-Husseini and the Third Reich was a common hatred of the Jewish people, and the Nazis had taken him under their protection following the wartime invasion of Iraq. He was to spend most of the war living in a luxurious...

etc etc.

http://www.holocaustrevealed.org/_domain/holocaustrevealed.org/Yugoslavia/Yugoslavia-Croatia.htm

Nothing to see there, mooove along and say three hail-gaia's.

[vladimir998]

Your link goes only to google. Try again.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Nothing to see there, mooove along and say three hail-gaia’s.”

Sorry, but I clearly know far more about this than you do.

1) Stepinac was never a Nazi collaborator. http://cssronline.org/CSSR/Archival/2009/Rychlak%20-%20Special%20Section.pdf

2) Even if he was, he was just the bishop. The Church denounced the Nazis and refused to cooperate with the Nazis. That’s why Hitler wanted to kill the pope: http://www.zenit.org/rssenglish-26194 Thus, your original assertion that the Catholic Church cooperated with Nazis and Islam is objectively false.

[LomanBill]

>>Your link goes only to google.

That’s right Comrade, GOOGLE, brought to We the People ala DARPA and CIA seed money in order that “THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE”.

Now, GOOGLE again: who were Archbishop Stepinac and Abbot Marcone?

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=Archbishop+Stepinac+and+Abbot+Marcone

"Oops".  Here comes the Sun, doo doo doo doo.

Got Syncretism?

FAIL.

[LomanBill]

>>2) Even if he was, he was just the bishop

Uhuh. "just the bishop" (on the right).

[vladimir998]

We know who the real supporters of Hitler were: http://www.churchinhistory.org/images/hitler-rise/%5B722%5Dcath-nazi-vote.jpg

[LomanBill]

>>I clearly know far more about this than you do.

Do you know why it’s Sun-day?

Ishtar, Isis, Oster, and the Easter bunny do.

All part of that “FALLIBLE and UNINSPIRED” excercise in sheeple herding the Eunuchs have been manufacturing... whenever human nature collectively allows them to do so.

"COMMERCE BETWEEN MASTER AND SLAVE IS DESPOTISM"

--Thomas Jefferson

 

Conclusion.

1] These are the chief articles which seem to be in controversy. For although we might have spoken of more abuses, yet, to avoid undue length, we have set forth the chief points, from which the rest may be readily judged. 2] There have been great complaints concerning indulgences, pilgrimages, and the abuse of excommunications.

The parishes have been vexed in many ways by the dealers in indulgences....

http://www.lcms.org/Document.fdoc?src=lcm&id=956

http://www.google.com/#q=indulgences+site:www.lcms.org

 

Truth, Free, again... see?

 

 

[vladimir998]

So, if I post pics of Ludwig Müller, a Protestant minister and Nazi sympathizer, who served as Reich [Protestant] Bishop in 1933 when Hitler attempted to create a Nazi Protestant sect (and he succeeded to some extent) that will show all Protestants, and in fact Protestantism itself, cooperated with Hitler, right?

That is your logic isn’t it, moron?

[vladimir998]

You know even less than you think.

I suppose I could continue to argue with you, but you already lost this argument. You can’t refute what I posted because you don’t have the brains or knowledge - and you don’t have truth on your side. You’re throwing in everything and the kitchen sink because you have no actual argument - and maybe you’re running low on meds.

[LomanBill]

>>We know who the real supporters of Hitler were

Do “We” know who funded his military industrial complex before the dog decided to eat the hands that fed it rather than just engaging in an exercise of Russo-German mutual annihilation?

Do NyLons float like Tea did?

[RegulatorCountry]

We also know that Hitler was baptized Catholic and raised as a Catholic, so what’s your point?

There is no point because this ridiculous game of tossing the Hitler religion hot potato back and forth is pointless.

He exhibited nothing but disdain for every form of Christianity once he rose to power.

He used the State Church to further his own ends, intending to coopt and corrupt it with his wild mixture of outright occult, Teutonic paganism and socialism on crack, and he persecuted or killed anyone who stood in his way.

Had that State Church been Catholic, he’d still have done the same thing; just look to his ally Italy and Mussolini.

[yldstrk]

hahaha

Ah Billy Boy, that was good for a laugh

[LomanBill]

Tsk Tsk Comrade Vlad.

Barely 3 moves into the game and you tip over your king in an Alinskyesque ad hominem tantrum.

You’re not a very effective propagandist. I hope with failures like this on your record you’ve got warm clothing for the impending assignment to Siberia.

Have a nice day.

[vladimir998]

you wrote:

“We also know that Hitler was baptized Catholic and raised as a Catholic, so what’s your point?”

I agree with you. I was not the one who started this.

“Had that State Church been Catholic, he’d still have done the same thing; just look to his ally Italy and Mussolini.”

You have no idea what you’re saying. There was no “State Church”. Religions were finacially supported by the state, but there was no national church per se. Mussolini failed in his attempt to use the Church in Italy. He could use it against its will for propaganda, but that was it. The Church resisted Mussolini where it could. The Church also resisted Hitler.

[LomanBill]

>>So, if I post pics of Ludwig Müller,
>>a Protestant minister and Nazi sympathizer,

No but if you post something from “On the Jews and their lies” by Martin Luther, it might demonstrate you have an incite into the nature of Religious sheeple herding.

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=26&gs_id=7&xhr=t&q=On+the+Jews+and+their+lies

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Tsk Tsk Comrade Vlad. Barely 3 moves into the game and you tip over your king in an Alinskyesque ad hominem tantrum.”

And calling someone “Comrade” isn’t an Alinskesque ad hominem in itself, dumbass? Like I said, you’re a moron.

“You’re not a very effective propagandist.”

I never tried my hand at propaganda. I simply told the truth and linked to info you can’t refute. That’s why you’re attempts at argument ended already. Notice that?

“I hope with failures like this on your record you’ve got warm clothing for the impending assignment to Siberia.”

There was no failure on my part, and Siberia wouldn’t scare me.

“Have a nice day.”

I will. And you’ll still be a moron.

[LomanBill]

>>There was no “State Church”.

LOL. Ba’al shit.

Ba’al IS the state church, in it’s various self-worshipping collective form, throughout history - and throughout the Bible.

Which of course is why the Eunuch parasites/wolves running the show didn’t translate The Word into the language of the indulgence-ridden sheeple.

Got Morals and Dogma?

http://www.google.com/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=8&gs_id=2t&xhr=t&q=Morals+and+dogma

[RegulatorCountry]

Your language is rather evasive. I happen to be somewhat familiar with the church situation in Italy, and not all churches were funded by the state. Protestant ones weren’t, certainly the Waldensians expreienced a “state” preference for Catholicism over their particular denomination, which wasn’t officially and fully recognized until 1984.

Mussolini used the de facto State Church in his country to further his ends, just as Hitler used the de jure State Church to further his.

There were resistors in both instances. There were collaborators in both instances.

[LomanBill]

>>linked to info you can’t refute.

 

Those who Control the Past, or at least the perception of it, control the future - ehh Comrade?

 

http://cssronline.org/   --  "The Catholic Social Science Review"

 

LOL. Yeah that's an unbiased independent source. NOT.

 

Ishtar, Isis, Oster, Easter = Syncretic Roman State Ba'alshyte.  What does your irrefutable source have to say about that?

 

And your Gaia-Mary-Mothergoddess was a hamptster, too.

 

NO SALE.

[LomanBill]

>>and Siberia wouldn’t scare me.

Uhuh. You and the rest of the apologists driving the theo-thugocratic state-police jackwagon.

What you calling the Oprichnina these days?

[vladimir998]

There was np “State Church”. Disprove me if you can. You’ll fail. And I think you know that.

[vladimir998]

You wrote:

“Your language is rather evasive.”

My language is never evasive.

“I happen to be somewhat familiar with the church situation in Italy, and not all churches were funded by the state.”

I didn’t say that any church was funded by the state in Italy. Learn to read.

“Protestant ones weren’t, certainly the Waldensians expreienced a “state” preference for Catholicism over their particular denomination, which wasn’t officially and fully recognized until 1984.”

Again, learn to read. I never said anything about churches being funded by the state in Italy. You clearly linked “State Church” to Hitler. That’s what I responded to.

“Mussolini used the de facto State Church in his country to further his ends, just as Hitler used the de jure State Church to further his.”

Both tried. Both ultimately failed.

“There were resistors in both instances. There were collaborators in both instances.”

Agreed.