Skip to comments.Obama: 'I was born in Hawaii,' wink, wink (taunts Trump, complements press on digging up truth)
Posted on 04/29/2012 8:14:03 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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Some folks don't believe that Stanley Ann was Barry's mom and I don't see why those folks would care if FM Davis jumped Ann.
For those of us who strongly believe that Stanley Ann WAS Barry's mom, this photo shoot timed for Christmas 1960 (from the decorations in the photo) would put create an intimate opportunity between a black man and Ann Dunham eight months before Barry's alleged birth. It is not too hard to imagine that naked intimacy could have also occurred a month earlier when a full-term Barry was likely conceived.
BTW, it is fairly common for older grizzled “artists” to jump their nude models in history, literature and in my own family experience (sadly)!
I assume you are referring to the above three images, which I have cropped from the composite on comment #128.
I will ask you now to take a good look at Stanley Ann Dunham as she appears below:
Are you still as certain that the girl with the earrings is the same girl as Stanley Ann Dunham?
I want to give you an example of how it is easy to be mislead, when one uses images selectively, rather than using images taken at random over a longer period of time. The comparisons of zero to FMD are a good example, there is only ever ONE image used for the purpose:
It's for that very reason I have made a collage of NINE images of FMD:
So, when you get to one that resembles zero, please point it out to me, will you? And as for people jumping people and naked intimacy, I am beginning to wonder if you're not just a little titallated by the erotic nature of the subject. Your powers of observation might be somewhat clouded by your imagination.
Do you remember Abercrombie telling of the girl he met with the kenyan, the girl he said was very young and quiet, and so over-awed with the kenyan, she just sat an listened? Abercrombie called her Ann, remember?
Here's Ann, identified as Anne/USA at the Nachmannofs, the year is 'early 1960s' according to some of the guests who were there. In fact, it was 1961, as one of them has been traced as an out of State graduate in the summer of 61, and the following summer, the kenyan had already left Hawaii. He left June 22.
This young woman might well have been the girl shown with the kenyan in the 'dock image' - the same girl shown in the Polk as ANN S OBAMA student...who was enrolled at the U of HI for Fall, 1960.
Now go to the immigration docs, and ask yourself, who was the US CITIZEN WIFE FROM WHOM HE WAS SEPARATED...who lives in the Philippenes, according to the kenyan?
No kidding. I didn't see this thread extension coming.
Thanks for the Ping!
"The only way people can realize some of the truth about Zeros parentage is to drop with the myths already, start from scratch, and read the Auntie thread."
I'm still working at it when I have idle moments. You do realize that it's over 2,100 comments long, and that the commentary and analysis is not exactly pithy? What a herculean read! When I start reading about Seattle babysitters, wives from the Philippines, Stanley Ann vs Anna (something) etc my brain starts to overload and things start to come apart for me, connect-the-dot-wise.
Fortunately the dots don't have to all be connected to come to the inevitable conclusion that this guy's history is a virtually complete fabrication. Something about lies and weaving and deceiving comes to mind. Now, getting enough of the public made aware of the bs that a tipping point in public demand for accountability is reached is the real chore. I do it all the time in everyday situations. And people get it.
Al Capone was busted for tax evasion.
They both know that eventually they will be proved to be frauds, but until then, the barking must continue, however humiliating.
While I agree that zer0 complements the press, or rather they complement him, I do believe that he complimented them this time.
Journalism continues to sink into illiteracy.
I have no theory about Obama other than his documents are fake. He is a fraud. Who, what, when and where are still open in my book but...
I’m with you. No way Marcy Moore is pictured in both photos.
It looks like Stanley Ann (or a look-alike) with heavy eye make-up an bright lipstick. Long chin, thin top lip, long face, etc. It may or may not be Stanley but a VERY strong resemblance.
And Marcy Moore in the other photos.
Marcy and the Stanley Ann woman look nothing alike.
This is not the same woman. Clear as day.
Stanley Ann has a Jay Leno chin. Marcy Moore does not.
The woman who is thought to be Stanley Ann has a Jay Leno chin.
See the two bottom right photos in post #122. Both women are facing forward. No way those chins are the same.
I have never used any terms of “certainty” but thanks to your photos I am more convinced than ever that the “Dunham” jaw” and other features line up perfectly to my eye.
Regarding FM Davis, I see no resemblance to Barry nor do I see any resemblance to BHO Sr. I only see a resemblance between Barry, his mom, Stanley Ann, and his gramps Stanley Armour who all possess the “Dunham jaw” with the prominent chin...as also obviously and incontrovertibly shared with the naked model in question.
As we have previously discusses and disagree over, I find the striking resemblance of Barry to the dead brother David Obama that Mark Ndesandjo claims to be his brother fathered by BHO Sr to be the best evidence that BHO Sr. is Barry's father. The resemblance is so striking that some, including you, have claimed that the pictures of David are actually pictures of Barry, even though it is obvious that Barry could not have been 2 years old in Kenya with BHO Sr and Ruth Baker Obama in the picture you claim was taken in 1966 when Barry was five (and the picture was from 1970-71 according to a living eyewitness, Mark Ndesand).
The INS FOIA doc provide contemporaneous proof that Stanley Ann planned to go to a university in Seattle in Sept 1961, so to Polk docs and witness accounts of her line up with that Ann Obama being her, as to the transcripts. To make your narrative work the INC docs and UW and UH doc must ALL have been forged.
There is no evidence provided in the INS FOIA docs that the notation of a “wife in the Philippines” was provided by BHO Sr. of was a brain fart by an INS worker in Baltimore who didn't know the difference between Hawaii and the Philippines...and no proof of any “Anne Obama” giving birth to a mixed race baby anywhere on the planet.
You are willing to accept the INS docs as proof of a non-SADO mom for a BHO Sr. baby, but you don't accept the same docs as proof that BHO Sr and SADO were claimed to have been married (as reported to INS by UH) or that SADO was planning to be in Seattle in the fall of 1961.
I prefer to build a likely narrative on evidence that has been corroborated by witnesses and documents.
I don't know who Barry's father is and in early in 1961 when Stanley Ann started showing she may not have known which of two available black men was the father. It may not have mattered other than there was a need to protect KGB asset FM Davis and also likely KGB asset BHO Sr (IMO) from being implicated while under FBI counterespionage surveillance by shipping Stanley Ann off to Kenya.
“I HAVE EYES.”
You need to get them checked.
There are two women. Marcy Moore and a woman who looks like Stanley Ann or IS Stanley Ann.
I believe that my comments in the Auntie thread refute or cast substantial doubt on these claims based on available corroborated documentary evidence and witness statements...non of which are available for the Filipino Ann alternate fanciful “Seattle baby mom named Ann Obama whose baby was babysat in the spring of 1961” narrative.
I know where they are, private ping me if you want the link :)
The real SAD’s chin is a bit more pointy then the supposed nudie SAD. Different eyes IMO.
I agree that he wants to keep alive the myth of being born in Hawaii. I also agree that people might want Frank to be his father, because at least he was a citizen. But I don’t “want to malign” Stanley Ann Dunham. I want the truth. I do not believe that the woman in the photos that are identified as possibly being Stanley Ann is Marcy. The faces do not look the same.
All of those photos have been identified as Stanley Ann Dunham. None of those photos have been identified as Marcy the model. In my opinion, every one of the photos that’s been identified officially as Stanley Ann (excepting the erotic ones) has been photoshopped to distort the nose, especially, but other features, too.
Marcy has fuller lips. Stanley Ann has thin lips.
Snopes? Now I know for sure that’s not Marcy.
Basically the Auntie thread clearly proves that Stanley Ann was not in Seattle with any baby in the supposed time frame. Someone named Ann or Anna was indeed Seattle with a baby, but it wasn’t SAD. If SAD had been in Seattle with a baby, you can bet it would have been in Dreams. There is a lot of evidence - for one thing, the supposed transcript of when SAD was at the university is full of discrepancies and no one has ever seen a paper copy, merely an email...
And nothing about SAD supposedly being in Seattle was said until someone found an “Anna Obama” in the Polk directly. Immediately a story had to be made up; and btw, SAD never IIRC called herself “Anna”.
Read Fred Nerks’ comments especially. (courtesy ping)
When I read the Auntie thread I had already realized that Zero was not the son of the Kenyan, but still clung to SAD being the mother. It’s clear someone named Ann/Anna was indeed in Seattle with a dark skinned baby. But it wasn’t SAD and it wasn’t Zero.
I realized that I kept trying to stuff things that are known into the “SAD is the mother” narrative and things just kept not fitting. Remove the myth that she’s the mother and voila! Looks much clearer.
Au contraire, the Auntie thread has zero evidence that SAD was in Seattle with a baby at the time “Anna Obama” was there. No evidence at all.
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