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Obama: 'I was born in Hawaii,' wink, wink (taunts Trump, complements press on digging up truth)
World Net Daily ^ | April 29, 2012 | Drew Zahn

Posted on 04/29/2012 8:14:03 AM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Fred Nerks

“I HAVE EYES.”

You need to get them checked.

There are two women. Marcy Moore and a woman who looks like Stanley Ann or IS Stanley Ann.


151 posted on 05/01/2012 7:28:50 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome
IMO the “Auntie thread” does NOT support any claim that SADO was NOT in Seattle or that an Ann Obama exists who was NOT SADO who had a child with BHO Sr or that said alternate Ann was in a photo with BHO Sr with other students or was the person alleged to have been in the Philippines in an unattributed comment in the INS FOIA docs.

I believe that my comments in the Auntie thread refute or cast substantial doubt on these claims based on available corroborated documentary evidence and witness statements...non of which are available for the Filipino Ann alternate fanciful “Seattle baby mom named Ann Obama whose baby was babysat in the spring of 1961” narrative.

152 posted on 05/01/2012 7:54:02 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: LucyT; Fred Nerks; Seizethecarp; TheOldLady; tomdavidd; Freeper; Gvl_M3; Flotsam_Jetsome

I know where they are, private ping me if you want the link :)


153 posted on 05/01/2012 8:53:08 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Sometimes the road less traveled.... is less traveled for a reason.)
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To: Fred Nerks

The real SAD’s chin is a bit more pointy then the supposed nudie SAD. Different eyes IMO.


154 posted on 05/01/2012 9:56:56 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Fred Nerks

I agree that he wants to keep alive the myth of being born in Hawaii. I also agree that people might want Frank to be his father, because at least he was a citizen. But I don’t “want to malign” Stanley Ann Dunham. I want the truth. I do not believe that the woman in the photos that are identified as possibly being Stanley Ann is Marcy. The faces do not look the same.


155 posted on 05/01/2012 11:41:33 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fred Nerks

All of those photos have been identified as Stanley Ann Dunham. None of those photos have been identified as Marcy the model. In my opinion, every one of the photos that’s been identified officially as Stanley Ann (excepting the erotic ones) has been photoshopped to distort the nose, especially, but other features, too.


156 posted on 05/01/2012 11:44:41 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Fred Nerks

Marcy has fuller lips. Stanley Ann has thin lips.


157 posted on 05/01/2012 11:47:06 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Seizethecarp

Snopes? Now I know for sure that’s not Marcy.


158 posted on 05/01/2012 11:53:21 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; Fred Nerks

Basically the Auntie thread clearly proves that Stanley Ann was not in Seattle with any baby in the supposed time frame. Someone named Ann or Anna was indeed Seattle with a baby, but it wasn’t SAD. If SAD had been in Seattle with a baby, you can bet it would have been in Dreams. There is a lot of evidence - for one thing, the supposed transcript of when SAD was at the university is full of discrepancies and no one has ever seen a paper copy, merely an email...

And nothing about SAD supposedly being in Seattle was said until someone found an “Anna Obama” in the Polk directly. Immediately a story had to be made up; and btw, SAD never IIRC called herself “Anna”.

Read Fred Nerks’ comments especially. (courtesy ping)

When I read the Auntie thread I had already realized that Zero was not the son of the Kenyan, but still clung to SAD being the mother. It’s clear someone named Ann/Anna was indeed in Seattle with a dark skinned baby. But it wasn’t SAD and it wasn’t Zero.

I realized that I kept trying to stuff things that are known into the “SAD is the mother” narrative and things just kept not fitting. Remove the myth that she’s the mother and voila! Looks much clearer.


159 posted on 05/01/2012 12:43:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Seizethecarp; Flotsam_Jetsome

Au contraire, the Auntie thread has zero evidence that SAD was in Seattle with a baby at the time “Anna Obama” was there. No evidence at all.


160 posted on 05/01/2012 12:51:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: little jeremiah
“Au contraire, the Auntie thread has zero evidence that SAD was in Seattle with a baby at the time “Anna Obama” was there.”

You have no proof the INS docs are not genuine.

There is discussion of the INS FOIA docs on the Auntie thread...docs which are evidence. You and others may claim they are forged, but they are evidence.

The INS FOIA doc provide contemporaneous proof that Stanley Ann planned to go to a university in Seattle in Sept 1961, so to Polk docs and witness accounts of her line up with that Ann Obama being her, as to the transcripts. To make your narrative work the INC docs and UW and UH doc must ALL have been forged.

There is no evidence provided in the INS FOIA docs that the notation of a “wife in the Philippines” was provided by BHO Sr. or was just a brain fart by an INS worker in Baltimore who didn't know the difference between Hawaii and the Philippines...and no proof of any “Anne Obama” giving birth to a mixed race baby anywhere on the planet.

You are willing to accept the INS docs as proof of a non-SADO mom for a BHO Sr. baby, but you don't accept the same docs as proof that BHO Sr and SADO were claimed to have been married (as reported to INS by UH) or that SADO was planning to be in Seattle in the fall of 1961.

The originals of the INS FOIA docs can be subpoenaed for verification, unlike the so far unrevealed documents of an alternative non-Stanley Ann "Anna in Seattle." The INS FOIA docs refute and exclude both that Filipino Anna and the Dreams narratives for Barry.

161 posted on 05/01/2012 2:46:40 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
...I prefer to build a likely narrative on evidence that has been corroborated by witnesses and documents.

Which means you believe the birth certificate is a valid document? Lord knows THAT has been corroborated by witnesses...LOL! And btw, when you quote the content of the immigration docs, maybe you should post them - you give the impression the kenyan's 'wife' is named...she's not. Where the memo says his 'wife' plans to attend the U of WA, there's no name either, and where it says his 'wife' from whom he is separated is living in the Philippines, there's no name...

Here's the document from which I quoted:

And you wrote:

The INS FOIA doc provide contemporaneous proof that Stanley Ann planned to go to a university in Seattle in Sept 1961

Once again, there's no name. Just a girl with a child living with her parents...on 31 AUGUST 1961...So who was the girl with the kenyan in the dock image and at the Nachmannofs? The girl named Ann that Abercrombie saw? And if that INS memo is correct and genuine, he should have had no problems showing a long form birth certificate right from the start, because if his mother's name was really Stanley Ann Dunham and his father was Barack Hussein Obama from Kenya, why the forgery?

Here's the URL for the immigration docs, if you are going to quote from them, I suggest you SHOW what you are quoting FROM:

IMMIGRATION FILE

It's somewhat misleading to state you prefer to build a likely narrative on evidence that has been corroborated by witnesses and documents... when you never show any.

But be my guest, you want SAD to be the mother so badly you aren't even aware of your bias or the fact that it rests purely upon the shape of a CHIN. You have so far been the greatest stumbling block to freepers understanding they have been hoodwinked as to his origins, THE TOTALLY MISSING FIRST TWO YEARS OF HIS LIFE. But be my guest, you probably aren't aware of your bias, it's your country. I'm just an aussie who hates lies.

162 posted on 05/01/2012 2:52:51 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Smokeyblue
Marcy and the Stanley Ann woman look nothing alike.

STANLEY ANN DUNHAM

Two images of the model, One of which bore the serial number YA 438, whose tinted images were removed from the free-vintage-porn com website AT LEAST TWO YEARS AGO when I first traced them after they appeared on the web - and two black and white images of a model named Marcy Moore.

163 posted on 05/01/2012 3:08:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Seizethecarp

The originals of the INS FOIA docs can be subpoenaed for verification,


When that happens then people can take a look at them. Until that time, who knows. The criminal cover up of who and what Zero is continues. Polk docs say nothing about her being in Seattle - notations for “Anna Obama” only, nothing about Stanley Ann, and witnesses are untrustworthy and changed stories. You say:


To make your narrative work the INC docs and UW and UH doc must ALL have been forged.


Considering all the forged and missing documents so far, you don’t think those could be doctored or forged as well? Are you wet behing the ears or what? You are waaaay too trusting.


164 posted on 05/01/2012 3:12:57 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: sueQ

IMHO....’Bammy is the French and German...and Russian payback to the USA for W’s upsetting the Iraq/Saddam “Food for Oil” game the European Elite were playing.


165 posted on 05/01/2012 3:17:45 PM PDT by mo (If you understand, no explanation is needed. If you don't understand, no explanation is possible.)
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To: Greenperson
... I do not believe that the woman in the photos that are identified as possibly being Stanley Ann is Marcy. The faces do not look the same.

Which means you believe it's possible that first of all, SAD was actually in Hawaii in 1960, when there's no evidence she was, you also have to believe she had a physical relationship with a black man almost 40 years older, a man who was married to an attractive and wealthy white woman with whom he had FIVE children...whose physical features belie the possibility he's the father of zero, because he's a chinless, barrel chested, dumpy little man with a nose like a dumpling...and NINE images of FMD in a collage upthread make it clear he and zero resemble each other as much as chalk and cheese are similar.

The problem appears to be psychological...to let go of the idea that a seventeen year old girl, whose father was a close friend (of which we also have no proof, we've never seen anything of Stanley Armour and Frank Marshall together) of her seducer, means at the same time letting go of the last vestige of hope that you know at least WHO ONE OF HIS PARENTS WERE.

Letting go of that, is really scary, isn't it? It's an abyss. A very very frightful place...and takes you back to the question, WHO IS THIS PERSON? Where was he born, who were his parents?

It's safe where Stanley Ann Dunham is. It's even safe where Frank Marshall Davis is. But it's like looking for a lost ring in the wrong room - because the light is better THERE.

166 posted on 05/01/2012 3:36:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you for all the clarifications and evidence.


167 posted on 05/01/2012 4:01:43 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
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To: Greenperson

Film: President’s father not Barack Obama
World Net Daily ^ | April 25, 2012 | Jerome Corsi

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2876667/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2877813/posts?page=130#130

for you or anyone else who might want to see how it all started again.


168 posted on 05/01/2012 4:05:09 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
“Which means you believe the birth certificate is a valid document?”

The WH LFBC has never been produced in any legal proceeding and has been demonstrated to be forged convincingly, IMO. It has not been corroborated, it has been challenged! Barry's attorney wouldn't even let him hold it.

BHO Sr. was a serial liar and appears to have told the INS agent in Baltimore in 1964 a few months after the SADO divorce that he was divorced from a wife who was now in the Philippines, or perhaps the agent got the wrong Pacific Island chain.

The 1961 INS FOIA image you posted states that a US citizen wife of BHO Sr has a baby named Barack Obama II and she and the baby are living with her parents but intending to go to school in WA. Now who would that be on Aug 31 1961 when that note was made? Another INS FOIA doc notes the same date of marriage to this US citizen wife, Feb 2, 1961 as appears in the HI marriage index for BHO Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham.

169 posted on 05/01/2012 4:10:00 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: little jeremiah

It’s like an infection that has become immune to anti-biotics. I keep injecting what aught to be the cure, but the germ of the lies has mutated...and become the perceived truth. It’s too late, the party is over. If freepers are prepared to fight tooth and nail to retain the myth of Stanley Ann Dunham’s motherhood against all common sense to the contrary, then ‘Dreams From My Father’ remains the blueprint, and regardless of speculation as to fatherhood, without any proof, he remains what he maintains to be, a native born citizen of the US...which is quite acceptable to the electorate and the judiciary.


170 posted on 05/01/2012 4:32:55 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Seizethecarp

BHO Sr. was a serial liar and appears to have told the INS agent in Baltimore in 1964 a few months after the SADO divorce that he was divorced from a wife who was now in the Philippines, or perhaps the agent got the wrong Pacific Island chain.

From the document:

AFTER ALIEN STATED HE WAS MARRIED, HE SAID HE WAS SEPARATED AND THAT THEY MAY GET A DIVORCE. THE WIFE IN THE PHILIPPENES FROM WHOM HE IS SEPARATED IS A U.S.C. MEMO ON YELLOW PAPER IN FILE INDICATES HE HAD A WIFE IN KENYA WHEN HE ARRIVED IN THE US IN 1959

Dated April 28, 1964. The divorce which gave Stanley Ann Dunham custody was granted March 20, 1964, almost one month before the kenyan states they are thinking about getting a divorce. Her first passport application was dated July, 1965. You can say it a hundred times but that doesn't make it so, the immigration department can't tell the difference between INDONESIA AND THE PHILIPPENES??? To which she didn't travel - going by the passport docs - UNTIL MORE THAN A YEAR LATER.

I think you are being less than honest and deliberately misleading.

171 posted on 05/01/2012 4:58:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Seizethecarp
Another INS FOIA doc notes the same date of marriage to this US citizen wife, Feb 2, 1961 as appears in the HI marriage index for BHO Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham.

you really are a piece of work, first of all, if you are so sure of what is on the immigration doc, seeing that I provided a link to all of the documents, why don't you do us all a favour and post the item to which you are referring? Other than that, all you provide is WORDS!

FURTHERMORE THERE ARE NO DATES ON THE HAWAII MARRIAGE INDEX. (But I'm going to be just as obscure as you are, I won't bother posting a copy of the index.)

172 posted on 05/01/2012 5:04:25 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks
I stand corrected. There are no dates in the HI index, just the bride and groom.

The date in the 1961 INS notes corroborates the date of marriage in the divorce filing in 1964.

So we have multiple INS FOIA documents recounting a US citizen wife of BHO Sr. whom he married on Feb 2, 1961 with the wife living with her parents and a baby named Barack Obama II and that was born on Aug 4, 1961 and that wife was curiously intending to enroll in a WA university in Sept. 1961...and also he recently divorced that wife as of April 1964. BHO Sr. did name his wife as Ann S., IIRC, not S. Ann but he might just have been embarrassed by her masculine first name and she went by Ann later in life.

All of these recorded facts about BHO Sr’s wife in the INS FOIS docs align perfectly with the corroborated documentary evidence concerning Stanley Ann Dunham...and these facts destroy the Dreams narrative of the little happy family in Hawaii for two years before BHO Sr. left for Harvard.

I have yet to see evidence admissible in federal court that Barry is "native born" because his only 1961 LFBC image is forged, IMO.

173 posted on 05/01/2012 5:24:01 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
...BHO Sr. did name his wife as Ann S., IIRC, not S. Ann but he might just have been embarrassed by her masculine first name and she went by Ann later in life.

More WORDS! In fact, her name (who-ever she was) is reflected in one of the layers of the forgery, where we see Ann D......to which 'unham' has obviously been added to create Ann Dunham Obama, and the name 'Stanley' has been created from an unknown entry in brackets, the original of which was shorter than the name 'Stanley' - so the bracket was removed and placed further along...

WATCH THE VIDEO

174 posted on 05/01/2012 5:45:45 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Seizethecarp

I WROTE: ...he remains what he maintains to be, a native born citizen of the US...which is quite acceptable to the electorate and the judiciary.

YOU WROTE: I have yet to see evidence admissible in federal court that Barry is "native born" because his only 1961 LFBC image is forged, IMO.

I DON'T GIVE A HOOT WHAT EVIDENCE YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE SEEN OR ANY BLAH BLAH BLAH ABOUT FEDERAL COURT...YOU ARE TWISTING WORDS AGAIN. I MADE IT QUITE CLEAR, HE REMAINS WHAT HE CLAIMS TO BE...AS LONG AS STANLEY ANN DUNHAM REMAINS THE MOTHER-MYTH.

He doesn't give a d*mn about the Constitution or how you interpret 'natural born' - and neither does the majority of the electorate, and as for the judiciary, SCOTUS is 'evading the issue' - remember?

Stanley Ann Dunham is the only thing that provides him with what he claims to be...or the Frank Marshall Davis/father monstrosity. Take your pick.

175 posted on 05/01/2012 6:04:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I am wondering if anyone checked into the location of the street on which (supposedly) the wife of the Kenyan lived with her parents. 1482 Allinestri (sp??) St. Even with bad spelling it doesn’t resemble any street I ever read of in Honolulu. Funny I don’t remember anyone following up on that, I would think someone did.


176 posted on 05/01/2012 6:09:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
ALENCASTRE STREET HONOLULU.
177 posted on 05/01/2012 6:16:22 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah

ANN S OBAMA.

...gosh, I hate to bring this up, but going by the supposed birthdate of Stanley Ann Dunham, she would still have been in high school until the summer of 1961. Methinks it was Ann S Obama who was enrolled at the U of HI for Fall 1960. It was Ann who we see with the kenyan at the Nachmannofs.

178 posted on 05/01/2012 6:27:53 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

Ah, Alencastre St. Thank you.


179 posted on 05/01/2012 6:30:55 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Fred Nerks

The timeline and ages for SAD just do not fit. Add that to the complete lack of any witnesses, photos or any other corroborating evidence to her being in HI before the photos of her with a toddler Zero.


180 posted on 05/01/2012 7:12:44 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Did you say the timeslines don’t fit? Nothing fits!

By Rick Anderson Wednesday, Oct 22 2008
http://www.seattleweekly.com/2008-10-22/news/may-the-best-mom-win/

Meanwhile, Obama’s mother, whose parents Madelyn and Stanley Dunham had moved here from Kansas a decade earlier, left Mercer Island in 1960. But she returned to live in Seattle around 1962, after Barack was born in August 1961, leaving her husband, Kenya-born Barack Sr., and his newborn namesake in Hawaii. She lived on Capitol Hill and enrolled at the University of Washington.

Baby Sitting Barack Obama on Seattle¹s Capitol Hill
by Charlette LeFevre and Philip Lipson
Seattle Museum of the Mysteries
1/28/09

http://www.seattlechatclub.org/News.html

Mary Toutonghi who now lives in Soldatna Alaska, (2) recalls Barack as ³a really alert baby, very happy and a good size². She does not remember him ever crying (although she adds she is sure he likely did but does not remember any undue fussing). She recalls as best she can the dates she baby sat Barack as her daughter was 18 months old and was born in July of 1959 and that would have placed the months of baby sitting Barack in January and February of 1962. [Note: 9/3/09: I believe Mary’s daughter was older than what she remembered which would account for the age discrepency].

January 23, 2009 12:50 PM
Obama’s Seattle home?
Posted by Chantal Anderson
http://blog.seattletimes.nwsource.com/politicsnorthwest/2009/01/23/_cruise_down_516_13th.html

Some interesting records have emerged in the past few months supporting the belief that President Obama lived for a time as a baby in an apartment on Capitol Hill with his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham.

There is little doubt that his mother lived in the apartment building around 1962; the question is whether she had Obama with her.


The first excerpt appears to indicate that the woman who is shown in the Polk directory for 1961-1962 as Anna Obama moved in ‘around 1962’ according to RICK ANDERSON - OCTOBER 22, 2008.

The second excerpt is from the famous article by Charlette Le Fevre, in which she adds 18 months to the birthdate of Mary;s daughter and comes up with 1962, which should be 1961. ( So she tries to make Mary’s daughter a year older, to cover for her stupid mistake.) ARTICLE DATED JANUARY 28, 2009

The third excerpt also identifies the woman shown in the directory as Anna Obama by the name Stanley Ann Dunham, and asks the question if she had a child with her. JANUARY 23, 2009.

Actually, in order of dates, you have the Rick Anderson article first - October 22, 2008.

Followed by Chantal Anderson January 23, 2009.

And finally Charlette Le Fevre and her major blunder (she knew it was Stanley Ann because Mary called her Anna!) dated January 28, 2009.

Of course Rick Anderson has a major problem which as far as I know, he has never bothered to address. He says Ann moved in in ‘around 1962’ - AND THEN PRESTO! a transcript for OBAMA Stanley Ann Dunham shows up dated from September 19, 1961...claimed to be from the U of WA (in an email) so the question arose, where was she between the start of the semester (which actually commenced September 25, iirc) and when she ‘moved in’ according to Rick - but wait a minute - they found an answer for that as well. They placed her in student’s accommodation (with babies permitted) IN SOME PLACE CALLED LAURELHURST.

I quit. This is my last entry on the subject. SOME freepers don’t want to know that their legs are being pee’d on - they want to believe it’s really raining...because it’s easier that way.


181 posted on 05/01/2012 8:03:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks; David

Thanks. Nothing fits. Noth-thing.

And IIRC David found out that the date the transcript (or whatever it was) showing SAD starting or registering at the University was on a weekend (Sat or Sun) and the U was closed then. And another date discrepancy that I can’t remember; I think the whole registration would have been in September, not August.

Courtesy ping to David.


182 posted on 05/01/2012 8:19:23 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Fred Nerks

Just because I don’t believe that those are the SAME woman, doesn’t mean that I believe that EITHER of them is Stanley Ann Dunham. I do not. We do not know WHO his mother is. We do not know WHO his father is.

You seem to believe that Frank was so hideous that a young white woman would have nothing to do with him. And yet an attractive white woman MARRIED him and bore 5 kids with him (going by what you said. I can’t attest to it. I’m not familiar with his biography.)

I have no psychological fear of looking into any abyss. I don’t know who his parents are and neither can anyone, based upon a lack of evidence to support ANY of the speculation, including his own claims in his fantasy-ridden, fictional memoirs.


183 posted on 05/01/2012 8:50:46 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: little jeremiah

Instruction begins September 25.

184 posted on 05/01/2012 8:52:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Greenperson

“...We do not know WHO his mother is. We do not know WHO his father is...”

And that’s exactly what I am trying to say here.

As for Helen (Mrs Davis) here she is:

Helen Canfield Davis - originally Helen Canfield Peck (1923-1998) was the second wife of Frank Marshall Davis.

Communist Party
Helen Canfield Davis, was a member of the Paul Robeson Club of the Communist Party USA, in Chicago and her 1947 Communist Party USA card number was 62109.

Marriage to Frank Marshall Davis

Davis’ wife, Helen Canfield Davis was from Libertyville Illinois. She was white and 18 years younger than Davis. It was money from her trust fund, which came to her in the fall of 1948, which enabled the couple to move Hawaii.[1]

The couple married in 1946 and divorced in 1970.

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Helen_Canfield_Davis

So, in 1946 she was 23 when she married him and he was 41.

In 1960 Stanley Ann Dunham was 18 and he was 55, with a wealthy, attractive wife 18 years younger than himself and five children.

As for not being familiar with his biography, that’s easily remedied. I’m surprised you haven’t bothered before. All you need to do is type his name in CAPITAL LETTERS into the search function on keywiki AND PRESTO!

http://keywiki.org/index.php/Main_Page


185 posted on 05/01/2012 9:30:03 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

IIRC a form (not this one) was dated an August date that was on a weekend and that made it very suspicious.


186 posted on 05/01/2012 9:40:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Greenperson

http://biography.jrank.org/pages/2342/Davis-Frank-Marshall.html#ixzz1Du7gQrwP

marriage, children etc.


187 posted on 05/01/2012 9:42:27 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: little jeremiah; David
That was the transcipt, it looked as if the date was August 19, iirc...the U of WA apparently explained that the numbered date 8/19/1961 should have been 9/19/1961, and that the number 8 appeared to be a 9 because it was mutilated...maybe David remembers, if he's available to reply.

See bottom right hand side, highlighted - and that still remains a problem. The revised or corrected date of September 19, is still a week away from the first date of instruction shown as September 25.

188 posted on 05/01/2012 9:56:18 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Fred Nerks

I don’t care how the photos were labeled.

The 4 nudie photos in your post to me are of two different women.

The black and white ones are Marcy.

The tinted ones are of a Stanley Ann look-alike or Stanley Ann.

You might not think the tinted photos are Stanley Ann (I’m not positive they are her either) but there is no way that any reasonable person would mix up these two women.

They are completely different looking. It’s not even close.

So whoever labeled them as the same woman either had some sort of agenda or was blind as a bat.


189 posted on 05/02/2012 6:13:50 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Fred Nerks; LucyT; little jeremiah; Brown Deer
The University of Washington Transcript Record

WND has published two documents which are characterized as U of W Transcripts. The first document is a computer print out. The U of W did not record nor publish academic data on computers until the 1980's. Their explanation is that an earlier transcript record was converted to the computer.

I have no real knowledge about the veracity of that response. I have personally seen U of W certified transcripts for earlier periods which are not on the computer print out format and which are in fact on the correct early transcript forms but the explanation cannot be ruled out--the U might have converted some transcripts but not others; I tend to be very skeptical about this explanation for reasons that will be apparent.

However as to the August 19/September 19 date issue, the computer printout carries the error (and as will be seen, it is an error) reflecting the September 19 date as August 19.

Following an initial exchange over this issue, the university produced the form posted by Fred in #188 on this thread. Note that the form as I see it on the post is not the entire form--there is information on the left side (right side of the image) which is significant.

I believe that form is fraudulent although I have no explanation for how or by whom it might have been created--the exchange of correspondence between the U and Dr. Corsi appears to make that form a U of W publication; how it would have originated is an open question.

What the #188 form reflects is that Stanley attended class in the regular University day school during Spring Quarter, 1962 (from late March to June, 1962). The portion of the form which does not appear reflects the fact that she was registered for and completed attendance in Night School for Fall Quarter, 1961 and Winter Quarter 1962.

She then transferred from Night School to Day School for Spring Quarter 1962.

The Night School is an extension college. Grades from her prior academic history were poor so she did not qualify to be admitted to the Day School in 1961 and it would be reasonable to believe that she did Night School to get her grades up and the Night School records would be (if credible) sufficient to justify admission to Day School.

So what the #188 transcript asks you to believe is that at registration for Spring Quarter 1962, an entry transcript was typed reflecting her personal data and her prior performance at Night School. The #188 transcript is not credible for a number of reasons.

On its face, it is the wrong form. #188 is a two column form with two holes punched on the side for insertion in a two hole pin binder. There is a gap at the top of the holes indicating that the form was designed to be removed which would be necessary to add additional data regarding academic data.

The transcript form actually in use at the college in this time period was a three column form. All information on the form was entered in handwriting. The form had twenty one approximate 1/8 inch holes along the side with no removal slit and was designed to be placed in a binder and never removed--the binder was latched and secured.

The form would have been prepared at initial registration. So grades would not have been available until the end of the relevant quarter at which point they were entered in handwriting. The transcript was then photo-reproduced in the binder and a copy was made available to the student as a quarter academic report.

I have never seen a transcript from that period with typewritten data. I have never seen one with two punch holes; I have never seen this form having been used in that period.

The University followed a rule that A & S Freshmen were required to take and pass Freshman English (Engl. 101; 102; & 103) during the initial quarters in school. Whether that rule was applicable to Night School students I do not know. This transcript does not reflect that rule.

The incorrect date, August 19, appears as 8/19/61 on the left side of the form. Initially I assumed that the 8 on the computer form resulted from an error in the transcription--the 8 would have appeared on a fold and the 8 is simply a 9 with the lower loop closed and would have been easy to misread. That does not appear to be correct--it appears that on the #188 form, the 8 is typed as an 8, not a 9.

The underlying facts are these. Fall quarter 1961 commenced class the last week in September for both the day university and the Night School. Registration the prior week for Night School would have been the norm. September 19 would have been an appropriate date for Stanley to have registered for class.

The preceding quarter, Summer Quarter 1961, was a full time program, just like every other quarter. Instruction for hour equivalent periods followed by a week of final exams. Finals week for Summer Quarter 1961 ended Friday, August 18 at which point, the University was locked down for vacation (other than the main libraries which ran on Summer hours) through Labor Day.

On Saturday, August 19, 1961, all doors on campus were locked--the University was shut down. Stanley neither attended class nor registered on August 19, 1961.

More significant at this point, what the form in #188 asks you to believe is that the typist six months later, who was on vacation on the preceding August 19 nonetheless entered a record showing fall quarter beginning on that date over a month and a half early. Might have happened but along with other facts casts doubt on credibility of the document.

For those reasons, I believe the so called transcript record of Stanley's attendance at the University of Washington is Fraudulent.

Further, the transcript record of her address on Capital Hill is the only evidence of her residence at the Toutonghi boarding house and thus in my view casts doubt on the legend that she was in fact there. Other evidence has come to light suggesting that at a minimum, the woman who was resident at that location under the name Anna Obama at some point during 1961 was not accompanied by a multi racial child.

We are not aware of any other evidence than this suspect transcript that the woman identified in the Polk Directory as resident at the Capital Hill address as Anna Obama was in fact Stanley Ann Dunham.

190 posted on 05/02/2012 9:22:02 AM PDT by David
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To: David; Berlin_Freeper; Hotlanta Mike; Silentgypsy; repubmom; HANG THE EXPENSE; Nepeta; Bikkuri; ...


see details from David on Stanley Ann Dunham Obama's University of Washington Transcript Record

Grades from her prior academic history were poor so she did not qualify to be admitted to the Day School in 1961...

On Saturday, August 19, 1961, all doors on campus were locked--the University was shut down. Stanley neither attended class nor registered on August 19, 1961.

For those reasons
[see David's complete post], I believe the so called transcript record of Stanley's attendance at the University of Washington is Fraudulent.

Further, the transcript record of her address on Capital Hill is the only evidence of her residence at the Toutonghi boarding house and thus in my view casts doubt on the legend that she was in fact there.

191 posted on 05/02/2012 9:42:15 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fred Nerks

Four years later we have no last name of the Filipino woman in the Nachmannof photos and the going away photo.

It would seem for someone named Anne/Ann and who appears to very close to Obama senior in the photos her full identity would surface. The fact that it has not is interesting.

She may very well be the cog in this broken wheel.


192 posted on 05/02/2012 12:18:12 PM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: David

Thank you very much.


193 posted on 05/02/2012 1:18:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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. . . . # 190 and # 191. Actually, need to bookmark the entire page...

194 posted on 05/02/2012 1:57:48 PM PDT by LucyT
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To: bluecat6
...She may very well be the cog in this broken wheel.

Everything points to it, she's the girl Abercrombie remembers, he calls her Ann, he knew she had a child in Hawaii, that's why he was so convinced he would find a record. He very well could have, but the date of birth and the name of the mother wouldn't match the myth, so he dropped it like the hot potato it would be...

That child keeps popping its head up but it isn't zero, it's the baby Mary baby-sat for Anna Obama in Seattle. It's the child they were considering having adopted. She was the girl whose parents wrote to the INS about (names redacted) wanting to break up the relationship. And it's the child Aunt Zeituni said the kenyan wrote home about, when he told the clan he had a son in Hawaii. He's the little boy on the right of the two little boys image, and that's zero on the left. That dark boy belongs to the kenyan and his wife who moved to the Philippenes - the same dark boy the kenyan and Ruth are shown with in the family group when the dark boy was about four years old in around 1966 when Mark was still a toddler.


195 posted on 05/02/2012 3:30:15 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: David
...We are not aware of any other evidence than this suspect transcript that the woman identified in the Polk Directory as resident at the Capital Hill address as Anna Obama was in fact Stanley Ann Dunham.

And that's it in a nutshell, as your careful, painstaking analysis makes very clear. And IF there was a child at that boarding house, as Mary maintains, it was there in January 1961 when, in her own words, her daughter, who was born on July 1959, was 18 months of age.

196 posted on 05/02/2012 3:48:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Smokeyblue
The 4 nudie photos in your post to me are of two different women.

I didn't post nude images, I posted FACES.

The black and white ones are Marcy.

They are identified as such throughout various articles on the web, so I presume that's who it is.

The tinted ones are of a Stanley Ann look-alike or Stanley Ann.

They are of a Stanley Ann look-alike whose images first appeared on free-vintage-porn com a website I traced as the result of the name and serial number on the bottom of one of the three images published...TWO YEARS AGO and the images themselves had already been removed. That website had a section devoted to photographs of girls wearing nothing but high heeled shoes and stockings...

You might not think the tinted photos are Stanley Ann (I’m not positive they are her either) but there is no way that any reasonable person would mix up these two women.

It was not unreasonable however, to make a comparison collage of the faces of the girl who is the Stanley Ann look-a-like and the girl (Marcy Moore) who has been indentified on various websites as the model for the images that came from the free-vintage-porn com website - THAT'S WHAT COMPARISONS ARE FOR. YOU LOOK, YOU DECIDE.

They are completely different looking. It’s not even close.

There you go, that's how it works. I made the collages, I labelled the girls. You have decided that Marcy Moore isn't the same girl as the girl from the VINTAGE PORN WEBSITE - fine. But now you can see that the provocative photographs ARE NOT Stanley Ann Dunham either.

So whoever labeled them as the same woman either had some sort of agenda or was blind as a bat.

I had an agenda. I simply wanted to show that there's no way anyone can be certain that the provocative photographs were of SAD, and the very idea that the author of that new book who says he found THE ORIGINALS TWO YEARS AGO in a 'house' FMD VACATED WHEN HE DIED IN 1987 is not believable. He found them on the web as everyone else did, because by the time I got to the website two years ago, they had already been removed.

197 posted on 05/02/2012 4:11:44 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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To: Greenperson
you wrote; Marcy has fuller lips...

a little more darker lipstick.

198 posted on 05/02/2012 5:45:39 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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