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The Real Romney
American Clarion ^ | January 18, 2012 | Bob Ellis

Posted on 04/29/2012 4:25:34 PM PDT by SoConPubbie

The Daily Caller reports a huge 200-page research document has hit the internet, and it reveals Mitt Romney utterly and damningly for the flip-flopping opportunistic liberal that he is.

The paper was compiled during the 2008 presidential race and is believed to be from the McCain campaign (not the most conservative source itself). Among some of the interesting tidbits that blow a hole in his claims about being pro-life, pro-marriage, and generally conservative:

Abortion

• Romney says he changed his mind on abortion meeting with Harvard stem cell researcher - Romney claims the doctor said scientists "kill" embryos after 14 days, but doctor later said Romney "mischaracterized my position."
• Months after his "conversion," Romney stated his commitment to upholding Massachusetts’ abortion laws and appointed pro-choice judge to state district court.
• In October 2005, Romney signed bill expanding family planning services, including abortion counseling and morning-after pill.
• In December 2005, Romney "abruptly ordered his administration to reverse course . . . and require Catholic hospitals to provide emergency contraception medication to rape victims."
• Romney health insurance plan expanded access to abortion, required Planned Parenthood representative on state panel.
• Romney endorsed legalization of abortion pill RU-486 access during his 1994 Senate race and backed federal funding of abortion, saying "I think it’s important that people see me not as a pro-life candidate."
• In 1994 and 2002, Romney confirmed his support for Roe v. Wade decision and forcefully positioned himself as pro-choice in 1994 Senate race, saying "you will not see me wavering on that."
• Romney has refused to comment on bill pending in South Carolina legislature requiring that abortion doctors offer pregnant women option of viewing ultrasound.

Gay Rights

• Romney endorsed Rep. Barney Frank’s Employment Nondiscrimination Act in 1994.
• In 1994, Romney called "don’t ask, don’t tell" policy first step toward having gays and lesbians "able to serve openly and honestly in our nation’s military" and said he would provide "more effective leadership" on gay rights issues than Ted Kennedy.
• In 2003, Washington Times reported Romney "would support a Vermont-style civil union law in Massachusetts."
• As governor, Romney said health coverage benefits and hospital visitation rights should be provided to gay couples.
• Romney promised to make gay partnership benefits a "hallmark of my leadership as governor" and has said he would attend gay weddings if invited.
• Romney publicly opposed Boy Scouts’ ban on homosexuals in 1994 and 2002 campaigns.
• In 2002, Romney backed hate crimes legislation that included sexual orientation provisions.
• In 2007, Romney praised gay parent who confronted him over gay marriage issue, but in 2005 remarked to South Carolina audience that some gay couples "are actually having children" and called it "wrong."

Gun Control

• In 1994 Senate race, Romney backed Brady bill and assault weapons ban, saying "I don’t line up with the NRA" and "that’s not going to make me the hero of the NRA."
• Romney called Clinton crime bill "a big step forward."
• As governor, Romney quadrupled gun licensing fees and vowed not to "chip away" at tough gun laws
• In 2004, Romney signed permanent state-level ban on assault weapons that was mirrored after federal assault weapons ban. • In January 2006, Romney said he owned a gun - then two days later admitted he did not and the gun belonged to his son.
• Romney bragged about being member of the NRA but later revealed he didn’t join until August 2006, just before launching his presidential campaign.
• Romney recently said he’s "been a hunter pretty much all my life" but later admitted he hunted only twice in his life, later clarifying remarks by claiming he has hunted "small varmints . . . more than two times."
• In 2006 press conference, Romney claimed he had been hunting "many times" after returning from quail hunt in Georgia.

The paper also goes on to provide much greater details about these facts also. You should be sure to read the whole thing.

If Republicans allow themselves to be duped into believing Mitt "RomneyCare" Romney is a real Republican (much less a real conservative), they will be sorely disappointed if given a chance to find the truth once he’s in the White House.

If Republicans allow the "mainstream" media and RINO elites to scare them into settling for this poor excuse for a Republican, they are going to kick themselves later. With Americans having gotten a clear look at liberalism under Barack Obama and his Democrat Congress, there will never be a better time to elect a real Republican, a conservative who understands how America was designed to operate. With the damage done by liberals to our great nation, there has never been a time when we have more desperately needed a conservative who knows what makes this country tick . . . not one who will only reduce - but not stop - the level of liberal poison being injected into our society.

The truth is, Romney almost certainly will not get a chance to show his true face. Enough Republicans already understand that he’s nothing but a liberal with an "R" after his name, which means that even if people allow the "mainstream" media and the GOP establishment to fool them into supporting him in the primary, there will not be enough support from Republicans who know the truth to push him over the top in the general election. Principled Republicans will not vote for a fraud like Romney, and when "independents" are given a choice between a liberal with an "R" after his name and a liberal who proudly embraces the liberal Democrat Party, they’ll go for the genuine article every time.

Republicans, let’s throw this pretender onto the side of the road while there is still time, and choose a real Republican like Rick Santorum. Half-measures and "the lesser of two evils" will not be enough to save our ailing country; we must have decisive leadership that understands the need to return to the traditional American values that are PROVEN to work. Rick Santorum understands that; Mitt Romney just doesn’t get it.


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To: ejonesie22
A vote for anyone besides Romney at this point now means a vote for Obama.I live in a state that makes a difference, do you? I don't like Romney but he may just have to be our finger in the dike for the next four years until WE ALL get off our ass and away from the computer and physically get out there and change things.
251 posted on 05/01/2012 4:50:19 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Finny
I tell you, the behavior of a candidate's supporters speaks volumes about the candidate. Romney's people as usual being sh*theel hacks.

We saw the same kind of behavior from the MittBots in '08. It didn't get them anywhere then, won't get them anywhere now.

The main difference was that not very many of them were dumb enough to spit in Jim Robinson's eye. Dumb.

252 posted on 05/01/2012 4:52:11 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: Finny
Once again, as in 2008, I pray that God delivers us from Romney and that Romney loses....

Please excuse me for interrupting but does that mean you hope for Obama to win?

253 posted on 05/01/2012 4:56:26 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: ladyvet

How can I, as someone who believes in Christian principles, do anything to advance the career of Mitt Romney? I will never be a “Romney Republican” no matter what you think might be the consequences. Trust in God.

And, if you can’t trust in God, then try to trust in one of our Founding Fathers:

“In matters of principle, stand like a rock; in matters of taste, swim with the current.” - Thomas Jefferson


254 posted on 05/01/2012 5:01:56 PM PDT by Tau Food
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To: ladyvet
A vote for anyone besides Romney at this point now means a vote for Obama.

Illogical and untrue on its face, no matter how many times Romney Republicans repeat it.

A vote against ingesting cyanide is not a vote for ingesting strychnine.

Smart folks don't drink poison.

255 posted on 05/01/2012 5:02:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Obama v. Romney: Zero plus Zero still equals Zero.)
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To: ladyvet
I hope Romney LOSES.

If it is R vs O with no viable third-party candidate, I can only hope that the majority of votes will have gone against whichever socialist wins, Obama or Romney. Frankly, the best scenario under these dreadful circumstances is for Obama to squeak in on a 34% plurality so that he enters office greatly weakened and debilitated because 66% of votes cast will have been against him, emboldening his enemies in his own party and marking an important, crucial victory for conservatives in a major battle for the Republican party; Obama gets in under those circumstances, and we'll have the most likely configuration for Congress and the GOP both to go hard right. Liberalism would be the biggest loser, and Obama severely crippled.

On the other hand, there's virtually a 100% probability that Romney in the White House would make liberalism more powerful in BOTH parties. I love America and trust the wisdom of conservative values; that is why I hope Romney loses.

256 posted on 05/01/2012 5:14:56 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Tau Food
Explain your post. Why? Because he's a Mormon? This is nuts, is this what FR has become!? I never signed up for this, that much I can tell you. You call yourself a Christian? No wonder we get a bad rap. Bye, your not worth my time.
257 posted on 05/01/2012 5:17:48 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Don’t you see you already drank someones poison.


258 posted on 05/01/2012 5:21:09 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Raider Sam has leaped into the great blue zot beyond...awww..someone evidently saw his nasty attacks against other FReepers!
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Good


259 posted on 05/01/2012 5:23:11 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: ladyvet

From your posts, I infer that you are burdened by a great deal of fear. Fear is a common and normal reaction when the future is uncertain, but there does exist relief from fear.

Just trust in God.

Just do what you know is the right thing. Remain faithful to your principles.

And, just trust in God.


260 posted on 05/01/2012 5:24:51 PM PDT by Tau Food
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To: Finny

Voting for Romney would be AS STUPID as voting for an orange juice can.
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Well hold on now...

the orange juice can would have some morals and integrity..


261 posted on 05/01/2012 5:25:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: ladyvet
Why? Because he's a Mormon?

The question wasn't directed at me, but I will fire right back before answering it:

You assume that a Christian who rejects Romney does so because Romney is a Mormon. Why? Because you're a Mormon?

There's no other real reason you'd think Romney's Mormonism had anything to do with it. Romney has done two things that are for me, as a Christian, put him out of the running because they are depraved and wicked:

1. Enabled taxpayer-funded abortion on demand for cheap, supporting the right of any minor girl to seek permission from a judge to over-rule her parents when said parents are opposed to her having an abortion.

2. Been a staunch supporter of Gay Youth Pride, where embrace of open homosexuality is encouraged in kids as young as 12 years old.

What in the HELL does Romney's being a Mormon have to do with MY Christian rejection of him on those grounds?

You deceive yourself. You are a Romney supporter.

262 posted on 05/01/2012 5:26:54 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

LOL!


263 posted on 05/01/2012 5:27:55 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: ladyvet

Yeah? Like what? Do you have some basis for your claim?


264 posted on 05/01/2012 5:39:35 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Obama v. Romney: Zero plus Zero still equals Zero.)
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To: Tau Food

OUTSTANDING post. Thank you.


265 posted on 05/01/2012 5:40:57 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Obama v. Romney: Zero plus Zero still equals Zero.)
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To: Finny
No the question wasn't directed to you but I will answer you no matter how tiresome it is. I am not a Mormon, I do have many Mormon's that live around me. Don't know anything about their beliefs but I can tell you this. I would rather have them as neighbors that any other denomination around. Their kids are not the ones raising hell in the neighborhood and their parents are the first ones to lend a hand. Your a hater, plan and simple. You call yourself a Christian...Ha, look in the mirror and honestly ask yourself if you really are.
266 posted on 05/01/2012 5:45:19 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Raider Sam
What’s ill-informed about it?

Here's what you said:

As for what is going on now (assuming you are speaking of the economy), it is not as bad as the 70’s or the 30’s.

Without rolling up my sleeves and posting links to statements by well-qualified economists on this subject, I'll just say that there's so much solid information about the US economy posted here daily, that even someone who only occasionally peruses those articles, should have a greater than average understanding of the dire situation we're in today.

To begin with, the current administration has accumulated as much (or more) debt, than all of the administrations that preceded it. They've put this country on a rocket ride to total financial collapse. Unemployment is at near-record highs - only masked by the manipulative lies of the administration and their lap dog press. Consumer confidence is at an all-time low, and the housing market is practically in a state of apocalypse. Gold is at record highs, because the Fed has nearly burned up the printing presses. Debt to income ratios for families and businesses are also at record highs.

That's just a generalized thumb nail, tip of the iceberg sketch of our current economic situation, but it's borne out by the thousands of excellent and factual finance articles which have been posted here since Obama took office.

Hopefully, that explains my surprised reaction to your earlier comment. We're most definitely worse off than we were in the 70s, and in some ways, even worse off than we were in the 30s.

267 posted on 05/01/2012 5:54:31 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: greyfoxx39; onyx
Raider Sam has leaped into the great blue zot beyond...awww..someone evidently saw his nasty attacks against other FReepers!

Good!

I was starting to get a complex with all of his accusations of me being a troll, an Obot and whatever else he could think up.
268 posted on 05/01/2012 6:00:18 PM PDT by SoConPubbie
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To: Deb
They trash Mormonism all day in the “Religion” forum



Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
 
 
 
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
 
 
 
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
 
 
President John Taylor stated: "Christianity...is a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
 
 
 
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
 
 
 
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
 
 
 
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
 
 
 
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
 
 
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

269 posted on 05/01/2012 6:01:54 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tau Food
From your posts, I infer that you are burdened by a great deal of fear. Fear is a common and normal reaction when the future is uncertain, but there does exist relief from fear. Just trust in God. Just do what you know is the right thing. Remain faithful to your principles. And, just trust in God.

Well guess what Mr. Know it all? There is no fear here, nice try. Take your crappy Oprah swill and sell it somewhere else.

270 posted on 05/01/2012 6:02:32 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: no dems
Another fanatical SoCon Pubbie who just can’t let it friggin’ go. Give it up dude.

Give WHAT up; Ma'am?

Another year of our LIVES?

Dang! For a YEAR; 6 days a week, sun up to sundown - that ain't ENOUGH to give up for the Cause?

WHAT MORE DO YOU PEOPLE WANT??!?!?!



271 posted on 05/01/2012 6:05:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So I am to accept an unknown blog’s definition of their own blog, as fact?

So I am to accept the words of a VERY shady character's definition of his own 'revealed' religion as fact?

272 posted on 05/01/2012 6:09:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: no dems
If you were a true Patriot Scotsman, you’d vote for Forrest Gump if it would get that Marxist Muslim out of the White House.
273 posted on 05/01/2012 6:12:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
That said, Romney will be (far) better than Obama. Obama is an egogistical wannabe dictator, actively supported by a fawning propaganda operation otherwise know as America’s “free press”

That said, Romney is an egogistical wannabe GOD, actively supported by a fawning propaganda operation otherwise known as America’s “choir".


The Doctrine and Covenants

Section 132

Revelation given through Joseph Smith the Prophet, at Nauvoo, Illinois, recorded 12 July 1843, relating to the new and everlasting covenant, including the eternity of the marriage covenant, and also the plurality of wives (see History of the Church, 5:501–7). Although the revelation was recorded in 1843, it is evident from the historical records that the doctrines and principles involved in this revelation had been known by the Prophet since 1831.

1–6, Exaltation is gained through the new and everlasting covenant; 7–14, The terms and conditions of that covenant are set forth; 15–20, Celestial marriage and a continuation of the family unit enable men to become gods; 21–25, The strait and narrow way leads to eternal lives; 26–27, The law is given relative to blasphemy against the Holy Ghost; 28–39, Promises of eternal increase and exaltation are made to prophets and Saints in all ages; 40–47, Joseph Smith is given the power to bind and seal on earth and in heaven; 48–50, The Lord seals upon him his exaltation; 51–57, Emma Smith is counseled to be faithful and true; 58–66, Laws governing the plurality of wives are set forth.

 


 

 16Therefore, when they are out of the world they neither marry nor are given in amarriage; but are appointed angels in bheaven, which angels are ministering cservants, to minister for those who are worthy of a far more, and an exceeding, and an eternal weight of glory.

 17For these angels did not abide my law; therefore, they cannot be enlarged, but remain separately and singly, without exaltation, in their saved condition, to all eternity; and from henceforth are not gods, but are aangels of God forever and ever.

 18And again, verily I say unto you, if a man marry a wife, and make a covenant with her for time and for all eternity, if that acovenant is not by me or by my word, which is my law, and is not sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise, through him whom I have anointed and appointed unto this power, then it is not valid neither of force when they are out of the world, because they are not joined by me, saith the Lord, neither by my word; when they are out of the world it cannot be received there, because the angels and the gods are appointed there, by whom they cannot pass; they cannot, therefore, inherit my glory; for my house is a house of order, saith the Lord God.

 19And again, verily I say unto you, if a man amarry a wife by my word, which is my law, and by the new and beverlasting covenant, and it is csealed unto them by the Holy Spirit of dpromise, by him who is anointed, unto whom I have appointed this power and the ekeys of this priesthood; and it shall be said unto them—Ye shall come forth in the first resurrection; and if it be after the first resurrection, in the next resurrection; and shall inherit fthrones, kingdoms, principalities, and powers, dominions, all heights and depths—then shall it be written in the Lamb’s gBook of Life, that he shall commit no hmurder whereby to shed innocent iblood, and if ye abide in my covenant, and commit no murder whereby to shed innocent blood, it shall be done unto them in all things whatsoever my servant hath put upon them, in time, and through all eternity; and shall be of full force when they are out of the world; and they shall pass by the angels, and the gods, which are set there, to their jexaltation and glory in all things, as hath been sealed upon their heads, which glory shall be a fulness and a continuation of the kseeds forever and ever.

 20 Then shall they be gods, because they have no end; therefore shall they be from aeverlasting to everlasting, because they continue; then shall they be above all, because all things are subject unto them. Then shall they be bgods, because they have call power, and the angels are subject unto them.

 21Verily, verily, I say unto you, except ye abide my alaw ye cannot attain to this glory.

 22For astrait is the gate, and narrow the bway that leadeth unto the exaltation and continuation of the clives, and few there be that find it, because ye receive me not in the world neither do ye know me.

 23But if ye receive me in the world, then shall ye know me, and shall receive your exaltation; that awhere I am ye shall be also.

 24This is aeternal lives—to bknow the only wise and true God, and Jesus Christ, whom he hath csent. I am he. Receive ye, therefore, my law.

 25aBroad is the gate, and wide the way that leadeth to the bdeaths; and many there are that go in thereat, because they creceive me not, neither do they abide in my law.


274 posted on 05/01/2012 6:14:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ladyvet; All
Your a hater, plan and simple. You call yourself a Christian...Ha, look in the mirror and honestly ask yourself if you really are.

Wow. You're wacked out, plain and simple.

People, understand that when you vote for Romney, ladies like this are going to be in your foxholes. You sure you're prepared for that if the bastard wins?

275 posted on 05/01/2012 6:16:10 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Raider Sam
But as of now, all I see is a rampant paranoia that is whipping people into a frenzy.

And this is just on FR.

Ya ought to see what is going on in the SOCIAL NETWORK arena!

276 posted on 05/01/2012 6:19:13 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: DJ MacWoW
We need more Americans aware of what they’re losing.

DUH!

Americans think that they're GETTING something!

277 posted on 05/01/2012 6:21:33 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mojitojoe

Thanks for that compilation!

I just sent it out to my email list...


278 posted on 05/01/2012 6:31:25 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: mojitojoe
...she does support giving illegal immigrants a path to earned legalization.

I think this is already in place: b een there for YEARS.

Some follks what to short cut across the switchbacks.

279 posted on 05/01/2012 6:34:41 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Raider Sam
The Mormon threads in the Religion forum are just plain ugly.

I've TRIED to get the MORMON's to tone down their rhetoric; but it doesn't seem to work.

I've TRIED to get MORMONs to repudiate the nasty things their leaders have said; but they just choose to IGNORE the statements instead.

So, what's a person to do?

280 posted on 05/01/2012 6:39:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ladyvet
Should I hide the children in the corn bin or call for an neighborhood exorcism???

 
Mosiah
Chapter 3
 
 
1 Thus the heaven and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
2 And on the seventh day I, God, ended my work, and all things which I had made; and I rested on the seventh day from all my work, and all things which I had made were finished, and  I, God, saw that they were good;
3 And I, God, blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it; because that in it I had rested from all my work which  I, God, had created and made.
4 And now, behold,  I say unto you, that these are the generations of the heaven and of the earth, when they were created, in the day that I, the Lord God, made the heaven and the earth,
5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew. For I, the Lord God, created all things, of which I have spoken, spiritually, before they were naturally upon the face of the earth. For I, the Lord God, had not caused it to rain upon the face of the earth. And I, the Lord God, had created all the children of men; and not yet a man to till the ground; for in heaven created I them; and there was not yet flesh upon the earth, neither in the water, neither in the air;
6 But I, the Lord God, spake, and there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
7 And I, the Lord God, formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul, the first flesh upon the earth, the first man also; nevertheless, all things were before created; but spiritually were they created and made according to my word.
8 And I, the Lord God, planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there I put the man whom I had formed.
9 And out of the ground made I, the Lord God, to grow every tree, naturally, that is pleasant to the sight of man; and man could behold it. And it became also a living soul. For it was spiritual in the day that I created it; for it remaineth in the sphere in which I, God, created it, yea, even all things which I prepared for the use of man; and man saw that it was good for food. And I, the Lord God, planted the tree of life also in the midst of the garden, and also the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
10 And I, the Lord God, caused a river to go out of Eden to water the garden; and from thence it was parted, and became into four heads.
11 And I, the Lord God, called the name of the first Pison, and it compasseth the whole land of Havilah, where I , the Lord God, created much gold;
12 And the gold of that land was good, and there was bdellium and the onyx stone.
13 And the name of the second river was called Gihon; the same that compasseth the whole land of Ethiopia.
14 And the name of the third river was Hiddekel; that which goeth toward the east of Assyria. And the fourth river was the Euphrates.
15 And I, the Lord God, took the man, and put him into the Garden of Eden, to dress it, and to keep it.
16 And I, the Lord God, commanded the man, saying: Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat,
17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it, nevertheless, thou mayest choose for thyself, for it is given unto thee; but, remember that I forbid it, for in the day thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
18 And I, the Lord God, said unto mine Only Begotten, that it was not good that the man should be alone; wherefore,  I will make an help meet for him.
19 And out of the ground I, the Lord God, formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and commanded that they should come unto Adam, to see what he would call them; and they were also living souls; for I, God, breathed into them the breath of life, and commanded that whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that should be the name thereof.
20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but as for Adam, there was not found an help meet for him.
21 And I, the Lord God, caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam; and he slept, and I took one of his ribs and closed up the flesh in the stead thereof;
22 And the rib which I, the Lord God, had taken from man, made I a woman, and brought her unto the man.
23 And Adam said: This I know now is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of man.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife; and they shall be done flesh.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed.
 


281 posted on 05/01/2012 6:41:50 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Deb
There is a Mormon repellant at Walmart, I think, or you can get it online.



282 posted on 05/01/2012 6:43:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ladyvet
They showed me some kind of special panties and I handed the children and pets over to them!




283 posted on 05/01/2012 6:45:40 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ladyvet
... special panties...

#13...


 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

284 posted on 05/01/2012 6:46:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Finny
People, understand that when you vote for Romney, ladies like this are going to be in your foxholes. You sure you're prepared for that if the bastard wins?

Really? I've been in a foxhole in the military. Why would I be in one here if that b*stard Romney wins? Please enlighten me.

285 posted on 05/01/2012 6:48:48 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Another one gone. I’m sure you are pleased. Target me next, then you can add my scalp to your belt. How does it feel to help destroy FR and run everyone off?


286 posted on 05/01/2012 6:49:08 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: mojitojoe
It’s called obsessive compulsive disorder

No; Ma'am; you have it wrong.

It's called Not Getting Obama Re-elected PASSION!



NGORP!!!

287 posted on 05/01/2012 6:49:15 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Deb
We must think of something!


The

DOCTRINE AND COVENANTS

OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS

SECTION 71

Revelation given to Joseph Smith the Prophet and Sidney Rigdon, at Hiram, Ohio, December 1, 1831. HC 1: 238–239. The Prophet had continued to translate the Bible with Sidney Rigdon as his scribe until this revelation was received, at which time it was temporarily laid aside so as to enable them to fulfill the instruction given herein. The brethren were to go forth to preach in order to allay the unfriendly feelings that had developed against the Church as a result of the publication of some newspaper articles by Ezra Booth, who had apostatized.

1–4, Joseph Smith and Sidney Rigdon are sent forth to proclaim the gospel; 5–11, Enemies of the saints shall be confounded.

1 Behold, thus saith the Lord unto you my servants Joseph Smith, Jun., and Sidney Rigdon, that the time has verily come that it is necessary and expedient in me that you should open your mouths in proclaiming my gospel, the things of the kingdom, expounding the mysteries thereof out of the scriptures, according to that portion of Spirit and power which shall be given unto you, even as I will.

2 Verily I say unto you, proclaim unto the world in the regions round about, and in the church also, for the space of a season, even until it shall be made known unto you.

3 Verily this is a mission for a season, which I give unto you.

4 Wherefore, labor ye in my vineyard. Call upon the inhabitants of the earth, and bear record, and prepare the way for the commandments and revelations which are to come.

5 Now, behold this is wisdom; whoso readeth, let him understand and receive also;

6 For unto him that receiveth it shall be given more abundantly, even power.

7 Wherefore, confound your enemies; call upon them to meet you both in public and in private; and inasmuch as ye are faithful their shame shall be made manifest.

8 Wherefore, let them bring forth their strong reasons against the Lord.

9 Verily, thus saith the Lord unto you—there is no weapon that is formed against you shall prosper;

10 And if any man lift his voice against you he shall be confounded in mine own due time.

11 Wherefore, keep my commandments; they are true and faithful. Even so. Amen.

 

288 posted on 05/01/2012 6:51:00 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ladyvet
What the hell is wrong with you?

Perhaps ANTI-garment is in a wad...

289 posted on 05/01/2012 6:53:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: ladyvet
A vote for anyone besides Romney at this point now means a vote for Obama.

What?

The election was held and I missed it?

Perhaps we ALL need to take a break until AFTER the Republican convention is OVER; before we count how many chickens have hatched.

290 posted on 05/01/2012 6:56:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

It’s called Not Getting Obama Re-elected PASSION!
______________________________
That’s my passion but it’s no SoConpubic’s.


291 posted on 05/01/2012 6:58:22 PM PDT by mojitojoe (American by birth. Southern by the grace of God. Conservative by reason and logic.)
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To: ladyvet
You call yourself a Christian?

Do YOU??


 
 
Romans 15:4
 For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through endurance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.
 
 
Romans 16:17
   I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them.
 
 
1 Corinthians 4:17
   For this reason I am sending to you Timothy, my son whom I love, who is faithful in the Lord. He will remind you of my way of life in Christ Jesus, which agrees with what I teach everywhere in every church.
 
 
1 Corinthians 11:2
 2.  I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,  just as I passed them on to you.
 
 
Ephesians 4:14-15
 14.  Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
 15.  Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into him who is the Head, that is, Christ.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 2:15
   So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings  we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
 
 
2 Thessalonians 3:6
  In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we command you, brothers, to keep away from every brother who is idle and does not live according to the teaching  you received from us.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:3-4
 3.  As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain men not to teach false doctrines any longer
 4.  nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. These promote controversies rather than God's work--which is by faith.
 
 
1 Timothy 1:7
  They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
 
 
1 Timothy 2:7
   And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:1-2
 1.  The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
 2.  Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:6
   If you point these things out to the brothers, you will be a good minister of Christ Jesus, brought up in the truths of the faith and of the good teaching that you have followed.
 
 
1 Timothy 4:11
  Command and teach these things.
 
 
1 Timothy 6:3-5
 3.  If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching,
 4.  he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions 
 5.  and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
 
 
2 Timothy 1:13
  What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus.
 
 
 2 Timothy 2:15-17
 15.  Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.
 16.  Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly.
 17.  Their teaching will spread like gangrene.
 
 
2 Timothy 3:16-17
 16.  All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 17.  so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
 
 
 2 Timothy 4:3-4
  3.  For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
  4.  They will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.
 
 
Titus 1:11
   They must be silenced, because they are ruining whole households by teaching things they ought not to teach--and that for the sake of dishonest gain.
 
 
Titus 2:1
  You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine.
 
 
Titus 2:15
  These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.
 
 
 Hebrews 13:9
 Do not be carried away by all kinds of strange teachings.
 
 
 2 Peter 2:1-3
 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 
 
2 John 1:10
  If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take him into your house or welcome him.



292 posted on 05/01/2012 6:58:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Oh my gosh, your back,lol! I'm growing rather used to you coming back as one would have a toothache recurring. Fruit of the loom issues will not change my mind that Obama needs to go no matter who takes his place.
293 posted on 05/01/2012 7:00:02 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: ladyvet
Fruit of the loom issues will not change my mind that Obama needs to go no matter who takes his place.

NO matter?

You must really HATE Obama!

294 posted on 05/01/2012 7:03:43 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Elsie, stop it. Yes I will take Romney over Obama. At least we can get ready for the next election while he holds things at the staus quo and WE should be getting ready for the next election!
295 posted on 05/01/2012 7:26:05 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: ladyvet

I mean to say that those who choose to Fear Omnipotent Obama and risk Romney, are going to have rabbit brains like you on their team. You’ve demonstrated here that you’re either a little tipsy (my guess) or way out in left field when it comes to comprehending peoples’ reasons for rejecting Romney. So far out in left field that you’re a liability. Like I say, not somebody I’d want to be sharing a foxhole with because you’re irrational. Your very irrationality is an indication that your’e on the wrong side.


296 posted on 05/01/2012 7:36:36 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: SoConPubbie

You need to let go of your bitterness before it kills you. Holding on to bitterness is like drinking poison and waiting for your enemy to die.


297 posted on 05/01/2012 7:52:24 PM PDT by no dems (TED CRUZ: A PROVEN CONSERVATIVE FOR U.S. SENATE FROM TEXAS.)
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To: Finny

Okay Im Im typing reallllly slow. I’m not tipsy and I’m not mentally challenged. I have no idea about rabbit brains...but whatever. Now let me ask you since you have a foxhole fetish....have you ever served in the military and actually dug a foxhole and lived in one for a couple of days? Just curious, most of us don’t bring that kind of stuff up that have acually done it.


298 posted on 05/01/2012 8:03:44 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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To: Raider Sam; TheOldLady; greyfoxx39

Raider Sam - zotted.

http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:raidersam/index?brevity=full;tab=comments


299 posted on 05/01/2012 8:11:05 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Romney vs. Obama? One of them has to lose, rejoice in that fact, whichever it is.)
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To: Finny

Come on FINNY! You want to talk about foxholes? I’ve been there and dug them and lived in them....what about you? I’ll tell you where I was for three years, can you do the same?! Tell me where you got your foxhole experience?!Your nothing but a toy soldier living in your mother’s basement you piece of crap!


300 posted on 05/01/2012 8:36:37 PM PDT by ladyvet ( I would rather have Incitatus then the asses that are in congress today.)
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