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Issa, Chaffetz confirm contempt plans for Holder over Fast and Furious(gunwalker)
foxnews.com ^ | 27 April, 2012 | NA

Posted on 04/30/2012 5:57:17 AM PDT by marktwain

House GOP leaders said Friday they are pursuing a plan to hold Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and the Justice Department in contempt for “stonewalling” them over information regarding the administration’s failed Fast and Furious gun-tracking program.

GOP Rep. Darrell Issa confirmed to Fox News that House Speaker John Boehner gave him and others on his House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform the authority to drafted a contempt of Congress resolution.

“We have a few other options (but) to a great extent we’ve been stonewalled by the Justice Department,” said Issa, R-Calif.

The news of the document and the extended meeting in Boehner’s office was reported first by The Los Angeles Times.

“We have issued a subpoena,” Utah GOP Rep. Jason Chaffetz, a member of the oversight committee, said earlier on Fox News. “We have bent over backwards to be patient and take time. (Holder) is leading us down a path where we have no other choice.”

The resolution, if approved by the GOP-led House, could force Holder to release thousands of pages of documents related to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives’ program.

Holder and other Justice Department officials say they are cooperating with Congress’ investigators.

The Fast and Furious program was run by the ATF’s Phoenix office from 2009 until early 2011. It allowed illegal gun purchases with the expectation of tracking the weapons to Mexican drug cartel leaders. However, hundreds of guns disappeared, with some eventually turning up at crime scenes in Mexico.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; obama
I guess fox is getting on the "botched operation" bandwagon now. The entire purpose of the program was to have the guns turn up in Mexico, and it extended far beyond the Phoenix office of the ATF.
1 posted on 04/30/2012 5:57:26 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker ping.


2 posted on 04/30/2012 5:58:10 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Why do we need a House Committee if the Speaker makes the decision? We’ll just let him do it all!!


3 posted on 04/30/2012 6:01:43 AM PDT by jch10
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To: marktwain

Bla bla bla bla bla bla.

CUT THE PR THEATER and DO something besides TALK, Issa!

More than three years of this blowbag’s promises to investigate the ‘rats nest and we’ve gotten not one damn thing of substance out of him. Grandstanding loser.


4 posted on 04/30/2012 6:02:20 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Money talks.


5 posted on 04/30/2012 6:10:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Nervous Tick

August to September and maybe even into October is where this is going to get interesting. It’ll be a devastating blow to DOJ and the White House timed to do the most damage in the election.

Too bad the GOP pulled Romney... If they’d had a true conservative candidate, it would have been a blow out for them. As it is, they’ll struggle even with the F&F bomb drop.


6 posted on 04/30/2012 6:11:47 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226
What if Holder...and Obama, just ignore the contempt citation? What can the House do? Who are they gonna call? The media will just report it as a tiff between the GOP, out to get Obama, and the Dear Leader... Nothing out of the ordinary!

Mike

7 posted on 04/30/2012 6:18:56 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: MichaelP
The same with any SCOTUS ruling. Neither branch has any method of enforcing their decisions, other than the Executive Branch's fidelity to the rule of law.
8 posted on 04/30/2012 6:41:03 AM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: Nervous Tick

You’re pretty hard on Issa. Care to name anyone... anyone at all... in congress that has done more to keep Obumo’s dictatorial minions in check?


9 posted on 04/30/2012 6:44:43 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: bossmechanic

Yeah, they all pretty much suck. Feckless self-serving money-wasting blowbags... and that’s just the REPUBLICANS. The ‘Rats are worse.

Now... care to enlighten me on just exactly what Issa has DONE — actually DONE — to “keep Odbumbo’s dictatorial minions in check”?

Besides tawk, I mean. What R-E-S-U-L-T-S has Issa gotten in his three years of effort? Exactly who has been sent packing from Barky’s administration? Exactly what dictatorial excesses have been stopped rolled back?

I’ll wait patiently for you to fill in the details.

I already know the answer. NONE.

Darryl Issa is an ineffectual grandstander.


10 posted on 04/30/2012 6:52:37 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

As this is pretty much what I was gonna say, let me repeat your post.

“Bla bla bla bla bla bla.

CUT THE PR THEATER and DO something besides TALK, Issa!

More than three years of this blowbag’s promises to investigate the ‘rats nest and we’ve gotten not one damn thing of substance out of him. Grandstanding loser.”


11 posted on 04/30/2012 7:11:38 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: marktwain

How long did it take for the libs to get rid of Gonzalez?

(February 3, 2005 to September 17, 2007) Over complete BS I might ad.


12 posted on 04/30/2012 7:26:57 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: Nervous Tick

He’s vocal, gets MSM face time, is pursuing the proper causes, has a degree of gravitas that works. Sorry you’re so pissy about the topic but, again, name someone doing something better. If you haven’t got a solution to the problem, quit dissin’ someone that’s at least working on it.


13 posted on 04/30/2012 7:41:08 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: MichaelP
What if Holder...and Obama, just ignore the contempt citation?

I'm guessing Holder will just take whatever piece of paper actually constitutes the "Contempt Citation", have it framed, hang it on his office wall, and otherwise ignore it.

14 posted on 04/30/2012 7:53:07 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: jch10
"Why do we need a House Committee if the Speaker makes the decision? We’ll just let him do it all!!"

After 1 year of asking - Holder needs another month's notice to cough up the goods! I really am impressed. With Mr Speaker in charge, we are now moving at Warp Speed. /sarc

15 posted on 04/30/2012 7:55:30 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Nervous Tick; faucetman

In about one month (by Memorial Day) when you will be proven wrong, will you apologize?

Seriously, I share your impatience but the delays are both tactical (don’t like that) and practical (absolutely necessary)—the case has/had to be carefully laid out and built. They have him.

That doesn’t mean Obama won’t pardon him, but hopefully Obama will pay a price for that. Of course the enemedia will do the best they can to protect both Holder and Obama so there is no guaranteed win which is part of the delay. Call it preparing the ground.


16 posted on 04/30/2012 8:03:27 AM PDT by Sal (STAND YOUR GROUND laws are the prosecutor's target--GZ is collateral damage.)
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To: bossmechanic; faucetman

>> He’s vocal, gets MSM face time, is pursuing the proper causes

All talk.

>> has a degree of gravitas that works.

Wrong! Judging by the RESULTS, it DOES NOT work.

As I thought, you can’t show a single result. Just talk, theater, grandstanding. As faucetman pointed out, the ‘Rats got rid of Gonzalez in only TWO YEARS.

And as far as your demand that I not object here in the forum to Issa’s continual ineffectual grandstanding: UP YOURS with a red hot poker. I’ll continue to speak my mind and you can take a flying leap if you think otherwise. Am I clear?


17 posted on 04/30/2012 8:04:40 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Sal; faucetman

>> In about one month (by Memorial Day) when you will be proven wrong, will you apologize?

Sure. *IF* it happens, remind me and I’ll be more than happy to take back my criticism and eat my crow. I’ll be that thrilled to see Holder gone.

I seriously doubt I’ll be eating any.

Now: will YOU apologize and admit that Issa is all hat and no cattle if he is NOT successful by Memorial Day?

Or do you need more time? (Three plus years may not be enough; I understand.) Just tell me the date certain by which he’ll have results or you’ll admit his ineffectiveness, and you got it.


18 posted on 04/30/2012 8:14:19 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick
First of all Issa only became Chairman of the Oversight Committee on January 3, 2011 after our 2010 take over of the House which is a little over ONE year not three plus years.

Agent Brian Terry was killed in December of 2010 which might also put the time line in a little better perspective for you as that was the incident that led to widespread public interest in the case.

Also, the first really big break in the investigation came last July 4th when one of the whistleblowers secretly came to give a deposition against the orders of the Obama/Holder regime. By my math that's less than a year ago, this still being April. Your math may vary.

I can't give you a date certain, but if Issa (and Grassley) both bail, I will immediately apologize. And I seriously hope you are thrilled and delighted when Holder is gone.

My Representative told me that in one of the meetings where Holder was being arrogant Rep. Gosar asked Holder what the legal penalty was for lying to Congress under oath (I'm assuming that is the Contempt of Congress charge). Holder deflated and in a small voice said, "Ten years".

I doubt he'll get 10 years because Barky will almost certainly pardon him, but there's nothing anyone can do about that.

19 posted on 04/30/2012 8:59:40 AM PDT by Sal (STAND YOUR GROUND laws are the prosecutor's target--GZ is collateral damage.)
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To: bossmechanic

You are right! See posts 16 through 19.


20 posted on 04/30/2012 9:06:51 AM PDT by Sal (STAND YOUR GROUND laws are the prosecutor's target--GZ is collateral damage.)
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To: Sal

>> I can’t give you a date certain

That’s a double standard, but it’s OK; I understand.

I wouldn’t stick my neck out for that ineffectual gasbag, either, if I were you.

Which, I guess, is my entire point.

Issa will probably never “bail”, because his grandstanding is his ticket to re-election.

But he’ll likely never obtain success, either. Just another damned feckless (R) pretending to be a conservative. Putting on a show, but never achieving results, even with a sizeable majority. A pox on them all.


21 posted on 04/30/2012 9:27:01 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Agreed lots of hot air & nothing else . The only folks that will get punished in this will be those Federal agents that blew the whistle & provide unredacted documents to the Congressional investigators.


22 posted on 04/30/2012 11:28:28 AM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: marktwain

Chaffetz is doing a great job. He is my congressman.


23 posted on 04/30/2012 12:15:23 PM PDT by Utah Girl (John 15:12, Matthew 5:44)
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To: MichaelP

Then, if our elected officials won’t remove them, the American People will have to do it. The thing is, Holder lied, people died, and someone is going to have to be held accountable. The US Government is also going to have to give up some restrictions on firearms because of this. It’s a purely punitive measure but one that is going to have to take place.

Either that or they’ll find no respect for the Government or LE in general and that could potentially lead to bad ju ju on all sides.


24 posted on 04/30/2012 2:34:24 PM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226
Either that or they’ll find no respect for the Government or LE in general and that could potentially lead to bad ju ju on all sides.

Bad ju ju indeed!

Mike

25 posted on 05/01/2012 3:42:59 AM PDT by MichaelP (The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools ~HS)
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To: Sal

>> In about one month (by Memorial Day) when you will be proven wrong, will you apologize?

Memorial Day has come and gone, Sal.

Darryl Issa remains the same ineffectual grandstanding poseur he always was.

Comments?


26 posted on 05/31/2012 12:39:06 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Sal

>> In about one month (by Memorial Day) when you will be proven wrong, will you apologize?

Memorial Day has come and gone, Sal.

Darryl Issa remains the same ineffectual grandstanding poseur he always was.

Comments?


27 posted on 05/31/2012 12:39:52 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: marktwain

With Romney leading or even in many polls, The Crier and Mumbles will be tip toeing to November. No chance they will make waves doing anything like charging Holder.


28 posted on 05/31/2012 12:55:25 PM PDT by lodi90
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