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India’s missile defence system ready: DRDO chief (comparable with US Patriot 3)
ZeeNews ^ | Saturday, April 28, 2012, 11:31

Posted on 04/30/2012 7:18:17 AM PDT by ravager

New Delhi: VK Saraswat, the chief of Defence Research & Development Organisation (DRDO), has disclosed that the country’s missile defence system is ready for induction.

As per a report in The Indian Express, while speaking on a TV show Saraswat said that as part of the system a two-layer shield – the AAD (advanced air defence) and the PAD – will be put in place over Delhi.

The system has already undergone four tests as part of which incoming missiles were intercepted and destroyed.

According to Saraswat, Prithvi missiles were modified and used as incoming missiles. The tests showed the system can hit missiles with a range of over 2,000 km.

The DRDO chief said the Indian missile defence system is comparable with the US Patriot 3 system.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: india

1 posted on 04/30/2012 7:18:31 AM PDT by ravager
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To: TigersEye

FYI ping.


2 posted on 04/30/2012 8:03:27 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: ravager

India’s claim of a ready to deploy ABM system merits skepticism. The technical challenges are formidable, making such a system implausible until proven by rigorous and realistic testing.


3 posted on 04/30/2012 8:04:51 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
India started developing anti-missile system in the mid 90s right at the time Pakistan acquired nuclear weapons. India operated the earlier version of the Russian S-300. US had denied the sale of Patriot and Arrow missile systems to India (even as US was selling F-16s to Pakistan).

India has carried out multiple successful tests of the Long Range Tracking Radar, the exo-atmospheric PAD anti-ballistic missile (range 50 mi) and the Advanced Air Defense (AAD) anti-ballistic missile (20 mi).

At the end of the day none of the BMDs of the world can provide 100% guaranteed protection against an incoming missile (not even Patriot 3). The India missile shield is just as good as any other.

4 posted on 04/30/2012 8:29:08 AM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager
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"sorry" ...

The Indian missile shield may be "kinda ok" ... but it's simply not in the same league with U.S. and Soviet counterparts ...


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5 posted on 04/30/2012 8:55:11 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Newt Gingrich and Sarah Palin in 2012 !)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Nope. Actually it is more advanced. Dont forget India had the option of buying both PACs 3 and S-300V and S-400 SAM (which is supposed to be even better then Patriot 3). India chose to build its own. US and Russian SAMs are designed to counter large numbers of MIRV ICBMs flying from half way across the globe. Indian missile shield is designed for quick reaction against a limited arsenal of shorter range surface to surface missiles, IRBMs and nuclear capable cruise missile coming across the border. Indian missile shield and US/Russian missile shield have different design and purpose. And the Indian missile shield is actually more advanced in its class.
6 posted on 04/30/2012 10:14:26 AM PDT by ravager
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To: Army Air Corps

Looks like India has no intention of being second best to China.


7 posted on 04/30/2012 10:26:05 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; Rockingham

This wikipedia link provides info on the ABM program of US, Russia, China, Japan, India and Israel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ballistic_missile

A more detailed info on Indian BMD program.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ballistic_Missile_Defense_Program


8 posted on 04/30/2012 10:32:05 AM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager

I doubt that the Indian missile shield is “just as good as any other” if something more than a whiz-bang demonstration for a reviewing stand is the measure. The US and Israel have a stronger technological base than India, have been at anti-missile work for far longer, and have invested far more money in the effort. Moreover, US and Israeli operational experience and immediate need provide an important check against the tendency of weapons developers to rig tests for positive results.


9 posted on 05/01/2012 4:52:03 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
“I doubt that the Indian missile shield is “just as good as any other” if something more than a whiz-bang demonstration for a reviewing stand is the measure.”

You are saying that without any factual basis to it. You “doubt” Indian missile shield is as good only because of the stereotype and stigma attached to anything Indian.

Talking about technology base in general, India has a bigger and older space program then Israel. India has a vast civilian satellite launch program which has had much better success then Israel. Don't forget it was India that sent the unmanned orbital probe to the moon, not Israel. Infact after the successive failures of Israeli Shavit rockets, the Israeli Ofeq and TechSAR military satellites were launched on Indian PSLV rockets. There are some areas where India is way ahead. Granted India is playing catching in BMD technology, but the gap is actually very small.

Besides US and Russian BMD operational requirements and design are vastly different from the needs of India and Israel. Also there is a lot of scientific/technological co-operation happening behind the scene between India and Israel.

10 posted on 05/01/2012 7:02:42 AM PDT by ravager
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To: Rockingham

As for.......
“ tendency of weapons developers to rig tests for positive results.”

You might be confusing India for Iran?


11 posted on 05/01/2012 7:05:23 AM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager

Alas, weapons developers of all nationalities tend to have a degree of technological and engineering optimism that makes them just shy of con men. And sometimes they are con men, rigging tests to generate positive results so as to keep their weapons program going and jobs secure.


12 posted on 05/01/2012 12:50:13 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

India has been launching satellites for over decades now. Not too long ago India launched a NASA satellite, launched lunar orbital probs and even has a manned space mission scheduled. You cannot “rig tests” and “con” your way to launching satellites or space mission. The results are out there for everyone to see. I don’t know what you are talking about really except displaying your obvious bias.


13 posted on 05/01/2012 1:10:41 PM PDT by ravager
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To: Rockingham

I do think you have confused India with Iran.


14 posted on 05/01/2012 1:12:50 PM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager
Just as it is easier to shoot an arrow than to intercept one with a shield, launching satellites is easy compared to detecting and consistently shooting incoming missiles and warheads out of the sky. US and Israeli ballistic missile defense development has been marked by setbacks and sharp controversies over the tests used to validate designs, hardware, and systems.

India's DRDO has also experienced delays and problems in its indigenous BMD system. As of mid 2010, it had managed to conduct only four tests of its BMD system in the previous four years, and a March 2010 test was aborted due to technical glitches.

Personally, I wish India -- a friend of the US -- full success in the development of its BMD defenses. Yet one does no service in pretending that the effort will be anything less than expensive and fraught with difficulties.

15 posted on 05/01/2012 2:44:34 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
Having problems, delays and glitches is not exactly the same as “conning” and “rigging tests”.

Look I understand on this board people dont really think highly of Indian technological capability. That fine, be happy with your ignorance! I brought out the examples of satellite launches to make the point that Indians have already proven their technological prowess in many major areas. I don't see any need to for them to go “conning” and “rigging” tests on a matter of crucial security need. If you have better evidence as to why you think they conned or rigged their BMD test, please share it with us otherwise keep the bullshit to yourself.

16 posted on 05/01/2012 10:20:46 PM PDT by ravager
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To: ravager

My unflattering reference was to weapons developers in general and not specifically to India. And it is no slight against India to point out the challenges and expense of ballistic missile defense.


17 posted on 05/02/2012 1:35:47 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

you would be surprised at how much the worlds defense sectors keep testing their counterparts—in war technology/capability is not offered unless some sort of test/infrastructure response is being carried out.

Does India have the capability of these missile systems? The real question, the big question for countries around the world in my opinion—has India approached a level of technology where an opponent could not engage simply because countering a bluff might result in collateral damage that would exceed the gains sought?

On this level reside the various weapon systems that are said to exist but cannot be verified—such as atomic weapons for one—or stealth fighters. After all making a huge mushroom cloud of gas appear is not really the same as seeing the destructive power said to exist from such an explosion.

All warfare is based on lies—seeking credible proof from information on the net, is this not somewhat, pardon my bluntness, pointless?


18 posted on 05/05/2012 6:23:59 AM PDT by Salt
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To: Salt
You have a shrewd point: that India's military capabilities, weapons, and plans, flawed as they may be, create strategic uncertainty for her regional opponents, Pakistan and China. They may have enough intelligence resources to get a good view of the truth, but they may not have enough confidence or margin for error to act on it.

On the large issues, the problem is often less a matter of the information available than of perspective, imagination, and confidence in assessing that information. There are numerous well-documented examples in which outside reporters, analysts, and observers accurately predicted the course of attacks, battles, and wars based on publicly available information. The Internet now makes the necessary raw information widely available.

I remain chastened by repeated speculations by my brother long before 9/11 that Muslim terrorists might use airline hijackings in order to make suicide attacks on the World Trade Center and other targets in the US, with the airliners themselves as the equivalent of cruise missiles. My view at the time was that this was virtually impossible because the size of such a plot would make detection and counter-action by the US virtually inevitable.

Who was I to think that US intelligence agencies and successive administrations would ignore the warnings because they were lulled into complacency by a seeming era of peace and good will? Yet, in retrospect, I realize that I too had been lulled into such complacency and foolishly believed that the US government would be sufficiently imaginative and vigilant to guard against an innovative means of terrorist attack.

19 posted on 05/05/2012 8:01:38 AM PDT by Rockingham
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