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When Zimmerman evidence is released, what will it show?(FL)
orlandosentinel.com ^ | 28 April, 2012 | Rene Stutzman

Posted on 04/30/2012 7:37:27 AM PDT by marktwain

What evidence does Special Prosecutor Angela Corey have that prompted her to charge George Zimmerman with murdering Trayvon Martin? So far, she has refused to say.

Before long, though, she will be required by law to release the evidence — which fills several boxes. What will it show?

"It'll be like little bits and pieces that will have to be strung together," said Adam Pollack, an Orlando criminal-trial attorney. "Almost a bunch of little dots. Initially, the little dots don't make much sense, but if you step back, you see a bigger picture."

The public could get access in the next few days — although there may be delays — because prosecutors are legally required to share evidence with the defense and, once that happens, the information becomes public through a process called discovery. The most compelling evidence should fall into these categories:

Crime-scene evidence

That includes anything found at the scene where the two came into contact and the sidewalk where Zimmerman, a Sanford Neighborhood Watch volunteer, fatally shot the unarmed black teenager Feb. 26. He's charged with second-degree murder.

Local lawyers say some of the evidence they're most eager to see are photos or anything else that documents Zimmerman's injuries or their absence. He called Sanford police, describing Trayvon as suspicious and then began following the Miami Gardens teenager on foot.

Zimmerman said he shot Trayvon in self-defense after the teen punched him, knocked him to the ground and then began pounding his head on a sidewalk.

"I definitely want to know what injuries the defendant suffered, what type of injuries and to what extent they were documented," said Pollack.

Sanford police took photos of the defendant that night. They should be in the evidence soon to be released.

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"What evidence does Special Prosecutor Angela Corey have that prompted her to charge George Zimmerman with murdering Trayvon Martin? So far, she has refused to say."

If there is such evidence, it should have been in the indictment.

1 posted on 04/30/2012 7:37:35 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Nah, Holder told her to go ahead and prosecute anyway.

Probably told her he needed some “space” until after the election and then she could have a federal job.


2 posted on 04/30/2012 7:39:41 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: marktwain
And it's a hard, it's a hard, it's a hard, and it's a hard It's a hard rain's a-gonna fall.
-- Robert Zimmerman
3 posted on 04/30/2012 7:41:23 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Like Emmett Till, Trayvon Martin has become simply a stick with which to beat Whites.)
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To: treetopsandroofs

Yea,she can be the token “cracker” in the voting rights divison!


4 posted on 04/30/2012 7:42:19 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: ClearCase_guy

“Here comes the story of the Zimmer-mane...The man the authorities came to blame....For something that he never done....
Put in a prison cell but one time he could-a been
The champion of the world.”


5 posted on 04/30/2012 7:44:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: marktwain

They may be stalling for time and praying for a miracle from Hell.


6 posted on 04/30/2012 7:45:37 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: marktwain

I wonder if drug testing was done on Martin.


7 posted on 04/30/2012 7:46:11 AM PDT by umgud (No Rats, No Rino's)
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To: marktwain
What evidence does Special Prosecutor Angela Corey have

There is nothing more important than having a lid on a boiling cauldron at this time to prevent overflow. A legitimate LE official would try to keep the lid on. If zer0 is gone (voted out), and if the chips are going to fall; let the chips fall then (after zer0) and not at this time (during zer0). My humble opinion.

8 posted on 04/30/2012 7:49:27 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: marktwain

I’ve said before and I’ll say it again that this incident is not an example of purely criminal prosecutorial intention that we saw in the Duke Rape Hoax. That said, I will allow one similarity: many of us are told, or are thinking, “well the prosecutor has to have more than what we’ve seen, right?”.

In the Duke Rape Hoax, the answer was always, and increasingly shockingly, no. I can only wait to see if there is anything more to this incident than what we (and the Sanford police?) already know — but I agree with earlier posts here that if there were more to it, we should have seen it in the indictment.

As discussed in other threads, there might in fact be less, not more, from the prosecutor than we have been told. The doubts raised about the “girlfriend” at the other end of the phone need to be addressed.


9 posted on 04/30/2012 7:51:15 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: umgud

—I wonder if drug testing was done on Martin.—

I read in several places on the internet that it had been done and illegal substance(s) were found in his system.

But file this under IIRC.


10 posted on 04/30/2012 7:53:37 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: no-to-illegals

But they haven’t got that much time. We have 8 days for the arraignment.


11 posted on 04/30/2012 7:54:18 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain

The autopsy report should be interesting. I’m curious about the tests on the KelTec. Did it fire every time when tested? Were Martin’s finger prints on the gun?


12 posted on 04/30/2012 7:55:25 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: umgud

Early reports said drug tests were done on TM but not done on GZ. (GZ showed no signs of being under the influence, but in the intial call to the dispatcher Zimmerman first says he appears to be up on something and later say “Yelp he looks like he’s up on something) No tox reports have been released.


13 posted on 04/30/2012 7:55:41 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: marktwain
That includes anything found at the scene where the two came into contact and the sidewalk where Zimmerman, a Sanford Neighborhood Watch volunteer, fatally shot the unarmed black teenager Feb. 26.

In effect, Obama's son was armed with a chunk of concrete.

14 posted on 04/30/2012 7:57:17 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: marktwain

I suspect that Corey has very little in the way of credible evidence, and that all of this was a set-up to let the court take the fall for allowing Zimmerman to walk.

That said, Corey has put herself in a position for some serious sanctions by the court.


15 posted on 04/30/2012 7:57:42 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Journalists first; then lawyers.)
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To: cuban leaf

Anticipating a postponement.


16 posted on 04/30/2012 7:58:01 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: jiggyboy

Regarding the “girlfriend”, you may find this VERY interesting. It is part of a series. It is the most complete rundown of this thing I’ve ever seen:

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012/04/21/update-10-part-2-the-trayvon-martin-shooting-deedee-reveals-the-false-truths/


17 posted on 04/30/2012 7:58:11 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain

The evidence will prove that Angela Corey is depraved.


18 posted on 04/30/2012 7:59:43 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

“If Zimmerman is telling the truth and Trayvon had him pinned to the ground and was beating him, the teenager’s body should have cuts or bruises consistent with that, she said.

The funeral director who prepared Trayvon’s body, Richard Kurtz, told the Orlando Sentinel he saw no such signs of a fight.

The Statist Sweetie is being deliberately deceitful. If the soi dissant “No_Limit_Nigga” was on top of Zimmerman, beating Zimmerman’s head against the sidewalk, then an honest person would assume the bruises, cuts, and grass stains to be on Zimmerman.

Oops, I am discussing the spewing of a statist attorney and therefore “honest” should not have been used as it is inapplicable. Sorry, my mistake.


19 posted on 04/30/2012 8:01:24 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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To: umgud
"I wonder if drug testing was done on Martin."

My guess is yes. An autopsy should include drug testing.

20 posted on 04/30/2012 8:02:55 AM PDT by avacado
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To: umgud
They reported that drug testing was done. I'll bet that they find that saint Trayvon, getting Skittles for his little brother, really went out to smoke a dooby.

Any takers?

21 posted on 04/30/2012 8:06:12 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: cuban leaf

I read that earlier, but this time while reading it “witness tampering” kept popping out of the page.....the CHUMP needs to be disbarred IMO.


22 posted on 04/30/2012 8:08:52 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: faucetman

Found this on the Internets:

Trayvon wears his gold grill like a crown,
He calls his child Skittles, cause he likes the name,
Suspended from the finest school in town.

Trayvon, Trayvon like his money,
makes alot they say.
Spends his days dealing, by the playground way.

He was born a bastard to a ho,
6 weeks past Christmas day.
When the New Tork Times says Clintons great,
Tracy Martin had a son today.

And he shall be Trayvon,
And he shall be a hood man.
And he shall be Trayvon,
in tradition with the family plan.
And he shall be Trayvon,
And he shall be a hood man.
......he shall be Trayvon.

Trayvon, steals womens jewelry all day,
His family business thrives.
Skittles blows up balloons all day,
Sits on the porch watching them fly.

And Skittles, wants to go to Venus,
and leave Trayvon far behind.
Take a balloon and go sailing,
while Trayvon, Trayvon slowly dies.

And he shall be Trayvon,
And he shall be a hood man.
And he shall be Trayvon,
in tradition with the family plan.
And he shall be Trayvon,
And he shall be a hood man.
......heeee shaaaall beeee TraaaaayyyyVVVVVVooooooonn.


23 posted on 04/30/2012 8:10:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: GladesGuru
“The funeral director who prepared Trayvon’s body, Richard Kurtz, told the Orlando Sentinel he saw no such signs of a fight.”

Not necessarily, depends on where he was punching him and whether he hit teeth etc. Also Trayvon was DEAD immediately after the beating, the body not reacting like a live body would, swelling etc.

24 posted on 04/30/2012 8:10:56 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: faucetman

Notice he didn’t buy any “snacks” for himself. Around here the all night convenience stores are known for selling more tea outside in the parking lots then inside.


25 posted on 04/30/2012 8:12:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Moonman62

Did they find the Skittles??


26 posted on 04/30/2012 8:12:49 AM PDT by catman67
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To: marktwain

It will show that the 911 tape had Mr. Zimmerman replying “okay” when the 911 operator told him to NOT pursue St. Trayvon. Evidence will show that George did NOT follow the kid in an aggressive manner. Evidence will show that Trayvon was a thug.


27 posted on 04/30/2012 8:16:40 AM PDT by madison10 (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. TJ)
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To: cuban leaf

Indeed. That is the very article I was thinking about.


28 posted on 04/30/2012 8:18:54 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: madison10

The 911 tape (if played from the beginning) will show that the dispatcher asked Zimmerman to keep an eye on Martin. Not just once but twice. In order to do that Zimmerman had to leave his vehicle, get out in the cold rain. When he complained it’s “Fn Cold” she asked if he was following (out in the weather). He affirmed and she replied he didn’t have to do that.

Bits and pieces taken out of the entire picture ARE missleading.


29 posted on 04/30/2012 8:22:02 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: marktwain
What evidence does Special Prosecutor Angela Corey have that prompted her to charge George Zimmerman with murdering Trayvon Martin?

None, other than obvious political pressure. It's too bad the state can't be forced to reimburse Zimmerman for the monies he's going to have to spend to defend himself once he's found innocent........

30 posted on 04/30/2012 8:24:47 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: cuban leaf

I just googled for “trayvon martin” “toxicology results” and everything on the first four pages says no results yet.


31 posted on 04/30/2012 8:25:01 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: umgud

I wonder if drug testing was done on Angela Corey. Or, at least the prosecutors at the Salem Witch Trials seem to have had a more believable case.


32 posted on 04/30/2012 8:28:42 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: jiggyboy

Yeah, I googled some related phrases and there is nothing conclusive. In fact, what I read strongly implies that no results have been released.


33 posted on 04/30/2012 8:32:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: dfwgator
Some may say, WILL say that these lyrics are over the top. I for one (among many who choose to remain anonymous, for obvious reasons) think these lyrics to be funny and appropriate.

George Zimmerman had to (and continues to) be trashed in the media, his life ruined, because some PUNK, chip on his shoulder (parents fault), Hoodie wearing tough guy, took Skittles to a gun fight. Trayvon Martin got just what he deserved. His parents reaped what they sowed. I will not shed a tear for, PUNK not Saint, Tayvon Martin or his parents.

Wear your bling, gold teef, talk your ghetto speak, use your hand signal gang signs, wear your hoodies, wear your pants off your a$$ exposing your underwear and your ignorance, and wonder why you don't fit into society and end up in prison or dead on the ground.

34 posted on 04/30/2012 8:36:49 AM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: umgud
I've read reports that drug testing was done on TM. I'm sure those results are back by now. I have to think that if they came back clean, it would be the most reported story in America, which makes me think they probably came back dirty.

If TM was on drugs it would help GZ’s already very strong defense immensely. Near the beginning of the 911 tapes GZ says something like “He looks like he's on drugs”. This was before he knew his race, I believe.

So, if GZ “profiled” TM as being on drugs, and he indeed was on drugs, it would certainly hurt the prosecution's already weak argument that GZ wrongfully “profiling” TM was directly responsible for the altercation that lead to TM’s death.

35 posted on 04/30/2012 8:45:29 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The candidate I vote for will NOT have a CARE after his name.)
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To: marktwain

It will reveal the secret of Curly’s gold


36 posted on 04/30/2012 8:48:39 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (This world is a comedy to those that think, a tragedy to those that feel - Horace Walpole)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

The prosecutor has no evidence for murder. She caved in to the BLACK KKK LYNCHMOB mentality of the LIBERAL FRAUDS in the left. She collasped like a cheap pair of folding chairs. She along with NBC and the rest of the frauds if found guilty of doctoring or withholding evidence should be the ones being prosecuted.


37 posted on 04/30/2012 8:52:38 AM PDT by spawn44
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To: marktwain

I can honestly not think of a single thing that could convict Zimmerman other than ballistic evidence that Zimmerman shot Trayvon in the back while he was trying to run away or something of that nature, since the prosecution already admitted they have no evidence of who started the fight.


38 posted on 04/30/2012 8:52:46 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: marktwain
The media continues to do the work of the devil.

Now that ABC has had to admit that the video they broadcast does indeed show signs of injury to the back of Zimmerman's head, the Orlando Sentinel is forced to admit such. But, of course, they don't have to show the widely viewed picture taken at the scene which shows the blood on the back of Zimmerman's head.

Evidently, the Orlando Sentinel would be completely comfortable if Zimmerman is convicted on the basis of the videos and the picture is disregarded. They are truly a shameful bunch.

39 posted on 04/30/2012 8:56:38 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: cuban leaf

Excellent site. Well documented. Check out the updates especially those regarding ‘Ryan Julison and Julison Communications’. http://theconservativetreehouse.com/


40 posted on 04/30/2012 8:56:47 AM PDT by yadent
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To: cuban leaf
Thank you for the link.

It all makes sense now. This is about an attorney seeking his share of “monetary justice” associated with a “potential” wrongful death lawsuit, that is weak at best. The media and public have been stirred up for the purpose of helping this attorney get his case to court.

The stand your ground law with civil court penalty exemption for proper self defense is an even more important law that I thought. It is interesting how some attorneys know how to circumvent it. It is also discouraging how the special prosecutor appointed by the Gov is helping out.

I wonder how that deal was struck.

41 posted on 04/30/2012 9:00:08 AM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: marktwain
Does it really matter?
Zimmerman's goose is cooked.
When Judges are afraid to stand up against the race mob, why should a single Jury Member?
Remember how certain members of the OJ jury caved to "Racial Pressure".
You can bet that there will be "Racial" pressure inside the Zimmerman jury room.
42 posted on 04/30/2012 9:15:10 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: cuban leaf
It takes quite a while to go through that research, but it is interesting to see that a fifteen year old girl's Twitter social record will destroy Crump, the Martin family, the MSM and Republican Feminist prosecutor Angela Corey.

LOL, it looks like a Democrat (Zimmerman) may put another Republican (Corey) in prison.

Without Dee Dee, Corey won't even get to trial, and with Dee Dee the fraudulent evidence is exposed and Corey goes down for malicious prosecution.

43 posted on 04/30/2012 9:21:39 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it and the law is what WE say it is.)
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To: Navy Patriot

—Without Dee Dee, Corey won’t even get to trial, and with Dee Dee the fraudulent evidence is exposed and Corey goes down for malicious prosecution.—

It is starting to look like it just may go that direction.


44 posted on 04/30/2012 9:27:07 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: marktwain

Watched the bond hearing, got the impression the main evidence they have is inconsistencies in Z’s story from all the times they had him repeat his story.

After that, maybe the distance from which the shot was fired. Also, the detective seemed to be buying that it was T yelling for help. Odd because that doesn’t seem to hold up very well.

Interesting if T had any drugs in his system. If he was a pot user, it can be detected for a pretty long time. Z said he was acting strangely, who knows.


45 posted on 04/30/2012 9:28:14 AM PDT by Andrei Bulba
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To: marktwain

I’m curious, how does a person talk on their cell phone for 400 minutes before the battery dies out? Mine is only good for about 45 minutes.......


46 posted on 04/30/2012 9:30:36 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: meatloaf

and how close were the parties and at what angle was the kid shot? evidence of a struggle...?


47 posted on 04/30/2012 9:35:02 AM PDT by silverleaf (Funny how all the people who are for abortion are already born)
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To: Arm_Bears

Actually, didn’t Corey just get re-elected?
If that is the case, the Zimmerman indictment has probably, already served its purpose...


48 posted on 04/30/2012 9:40:47 AM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: madison10

Better to be judged by twelve than to be carried by six.


49 posted on 04/30/2012 9:54:41 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: marktwain

Corey has already shown she is willing to prosecute, and convict, an innocent man for political gain. She represents the worst of our justice and political system. Not to mention she looks more than slightly depraved on television. I’m sure she knows her case is non-existent. It’s a serious charge but I’m betting she’s trying to massage the evidence to try and have something convincing to go to court with. I wouldn’t put it past her to be trying to manufacture damning evidence.


50 posted on 04/30/2012 10:01:01 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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