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RFK assassination witness tells CNN: There was a second shooter
CNN ^ | April 30, 2012 | Michael Martinez, Brad Johnson

Posted on 04/30/2012 8:54:52 AM PDT by raulgomez05

As a federal court prepares to rule on a challenge to Sirhan Sirhan's conviction in the Robert F. Kennedy assassination, a long overlooked witness to the murder is telling her story: She heard two guns firing during the 1968 shooting and authorities altered her account of the crime.

Nina Rhodes-Hughes wants the world to know that, despite what history says, Sirhan was not the only gunman firing shots when Kennedy was murdered a few feet away from her at a Los Angeles hotel.

"What has to come out is that there was another shooter to my right," Rhodes-Hughes said in an exclusive interview with CNN. "The truth has got to be told. No more cover-ups."

Her voice at times becoming emotional, Rhodes-Hughes described for CNN various details of the assassination, her long frustration with the official reporting of her account and her reasons for speaking out: "I think to assist me in healing -- although you're never 100% healed from that. But more important to bring justice."

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1 posted on 04/30/2012 8:54:58 AM PDT by raulgomez05
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To: raulgomez05
Sirhan Sirhan praised by Bill Ayers.

Barack Obama praised by Bill Ayers.

Kennedy democrats are complete fools to relate to the Kenyan and his buddies on ANYTHING.

2 posted on 04/30/2012 9:01:32 AM PDT by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them)
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To: raulgomez05

There was another Moslem with a gun in the crowd?


3 posted on 04/30/2012 9:04:39 AM PDT by Ingtar (When I donate to FR, it does not take the money and run as every politician I donate to does)
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To: Prole

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/nov/20/usa.features11

“When the subject of the Kennedys came up in a late-night session with friends in 1973, Morales launched into a tirade that finished: “I was in Dallas when we got the son of a bitch and I was in Los Angeles when we got the little bastard.”


4 posted on 04/30/2012 9:06:06 AM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with http://abcnewsradioonline.Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: raulgomez05

Was the second shooter wearing a tinfoil hat? Probably not, because if had one on then the aliens couldn’t communicate their evil wishes to him. Nina thankfully had her hat on and thank goodness for that, otherwise the ‘truth’ wouldn’t be out there.

Another awesome piece of reporting by CNN.


5 posted on 04/30/2012 9:06:09 AM PDT by jerod (They were Socialist, Pro-Abortionist, Gun Control Nuts & Excessive Environmentalist -the NAZI party)
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To: jerod

Was the second shooter on the grassy knoll?


6 posted on 04/30/2012 9:07:32 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: raulgomez05

He’d be more believable if he claimed to have had an affair with JFK.


7 posted on 04/30/2012 9:07:57 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: RummyChick

Lefties love these Kennedy conspiracy theories, because they can’t handle the truth that a Commie killed JFK, and a Muzzie killed RFK.


8 posted on 04/30/2012 9:08:49 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: raulgomez05

There’s a number of Kennedy stories in the press lately. There was one about one of JFK’s favorite flings who was killed not too long after he was. She had CIA connections.


9 posted on 04/30/2012 9:10:27 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: SuzyQue

Hey, Suz, if you find a link for that, would you please throw it my way? Thanks!


10 posted on 04/30/2012 9:14:15 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: raulgomez05
Well, surprise, surprise! Sirhan Sirhan, who claims he doesn't remember anything about the shooting, had some help.

Gosh, Doc! Did yer tin-foil hat fall off or sumpin'?

No, oh naive ones. Isn't it amazing how high profile public figures who go off the reservation end up dead? Like Bobby's brother John who wanted out of Vietnam and who had signed an executive order for the U.S. Treasury to start printing dollars, effectively ending the Fed's hegemony. Or JFK's "murderer", Lee Harvey Oswald, just happened to be a sitting duck for Jack Ruby who also happened to die very quickly after shooting Oswald.

The term "conspiracy theorist" has become an epithet with which to attack those who question the status quo. Tell me that Hitler wasn't involved in a conspiracy to take over Germany. Tell me that there are not now and never have been any Marxist conspirators who seek the control of America.

If we know these things are true, then why swallow the FedGov BS on assassinations?

11 posted on 04/30/2012 9:14:22 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (Don't vote for anyone who worked for Goldman Sachs)
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To: dfwgator

****and a Muzzie killed RFK.****

A quick google search shows Sirhan was a Palestinian Christian.


12 posted on 04/30/2012 9:17:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

Sorry about the source, but here you go: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/19/mary-pinchot-meyer-jfk-mistress-assassinated_n_1434191.html


13 posted on 04/30/2012 9:19:18 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: Ingtar
There was another Moslem with a gun in the crowd?

What are you babbling about? Sirhan Sirhan is a Christian by birth, he never converted to Islam.
14 posted on 04/30/2012 9:19:57 AM PDT by Cheburashka (It's legal to be out at night in spacesuits, even carrying a rag dolly. Cops hauled us in anyway.)
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To: SuzyQue

Thanks! :-)


15 posted on 04/30/2012 9:21:14 AM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: Cheburashka

Ahh, my mistake. I didn’t have the internet for fact checking back in the day, so I should have checked it now.


16 posted on 04/30/2012 9:22:13 AM PDT by Ingtar (When I donate to FR, it does not take the money and run as every politician I donate to does)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Can we believe the second word, “Christian?” The first word, “Palestinian,” is a made up nationality.


17 posted on 04/30/2012 9:23:52 AM PDT by Ingtar (When I donate to FR, it does not take the money and run as every politician I donate to does)
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To: dfwgator; RummyChick
Lefties love these Kennedy conspiracy theories, because they can’t handle the truth that a Commie killed JFK, and a Muzzie killed RFK.

All true, and they both were 'enabled' by factions of the government.

Based on the accounts I have read, it is very likely there was a second gun being fired in the RFK assassination. But it was 'friendly fire'. One of the armed security attachment 'may' have pulled his weapon and fired off a shot. Maybe he even hit Kennedy.

Maybe....

18 posted on 04/30/2012 9:25:50 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; SuzyQue

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Pinchot_Meyer

She was Benjamin Bradlee’s sister-in-law.


19 posted on 04/30/2012 9:30:00 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear; SuzyQue

Just google the names Cord Meyer and Mary Pinchot Meyer. Mary was a long time friend of JFK. When Jackie was out of town Mary was considered the hostess at the JFK soirees. She was married to Cord Meyer of the CIA and her sister, IIRC, was married to one of the WaPo owners. VERY connected.

Mary was murdered about a year after JFK’s death. DC was shocked when that happened because she was generally considered to have been JFK’s girlfriend. They tried to hang the murder charge on an unemployed black guy - sort of like the Chandra Levy maneuver. Supposedly when her sister went to her house there was a CIA person there and her diary supposedly disappeared.


20 posted on 04/30/2012 9:31:59 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane; abb

Yes, I should have mentioned the Ben Bradlee connection.


21 posted on 04/30/2012 9:34:31 AM PDT by SuzyQue
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To: ladyjane; RushIsMyTeddyBear; SuzyQue

All this took place back when the MSM allegedly was “honest,” and didn’t cover for the Democrats like they do today for Obama - or so some believe.

/sarc

The point is, the MSM has ALWAYS been in the tank for the Marxists/Bolsheviks/Democrats but we never had any alternative news-gathering/news-distribution systems like we have nowadays with the internet.


22 posted on 04/30/2012 9:41:56 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“A quick google search shows Sirhan was a Palestinian Christian.”

Hmmm. Apparently not a very good Christian at that moment in time and certainly not in a state of grace either.


23 posted on 04/30/2012 9:42:43 AM PDT by miele man
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To: raulgomez05

Sirhan used a US made Iver Johnson Cadet 8 shot .22 cal revolver.

One web site claims it was made in Europe and was responsible for the 1968 Gun control law. I do not believe this unless I see an actual revolver with Made in Germany on it.

IJ continued to make these revolvers for years.


24 posted on 04/30/2012 9:43:24 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: SuzyQue
She had CIA connections.

How about ties to the mafia? If so, that would likely explain alot.

25 posted on 04/30/2012 9:47:18 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: raulgomez05
"I think to assist me in healing -- although you're never 100% healed from that.

Umm.... where the hell has she been the last forty-two years?

26 posted on 04/30/2012 9:54:34 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: raulgomez05
Sirhan was an Arab Communist PLO sympathizer who targeted RFK because he (like liberals in that long ago era) was strongly pro-Israel.

It's hard to believe now, but once upon a time in America the Left was pro-Israel and the Right was anti-Israel (though the Right on this issue most assuredly did not represent their Biblical Fundamentalist contingent). While pro-Israel liberals now cry like babies at the idea that conservatives are more pro-Israel than they are, the liberals of that era actually denied the right or claim of any conservative to support Israel. They claimed it as an absolute monopoly. No conservatives need apply. And unfortunately, not a lot of conservatives were applying.

Internationally, the Left had long rejected its very brief support of Zionism (in the late 1940's when they were looking for anything to hit the "British Empire" with), but in America the Left rallied around Israel and claimed it as their own. Israel, they claimed, was an island of liberalism and progressivism in a sea of Arab reaction. They even opposed the PLO, even as they supported the PLO's comrades in every corner of the globe (just as conservatives who opposed the PLO's comrades couldn't quite bring themselves to condemn the PLO).

Liberals like to remember that Fidel Castro refused to break off diplomatic relations with Israel in 1967 when the rest of the Communist bloc did. What they forget is that Castro did break diplomatic relations with Israel after the 1973 war and did a complete about-face without a single thought. Liberals also don't like to remember that as early as 1966--one year before the Six Day War provoked Communist condemnation of Israel--the "pro-Israel" Castro was hosting Yasser Arafat and other "palestinian" terrorists at the Tri-Continental Conference for Peace.

I have on several occasions in the past also pointed out that in 1982, when the Right Wing government of Menachem Begin sent the IDF into Lebanon to clear out the PLO, American ultra-leftists Jane Fonda and then husband Tom Hayden actually went to Lebanon to defend Israel's actions and entertain Israeli troops. They pointed out (quite correctly, as it was) that Israel was being attacked directly from Lebanon while North Vietnam and the Vietcong were not attacking American territory. However--they were being perfectly consistent with the then domestic American Leftist line that Israel was "the Cuba of the Middle East" (even under Begin) and that supporting North Vietnam and Israel was perfectly consistent (despite the fact that North Vietnam itself was vehemently anti-Israel and pro-Arab).

Now Jane Fonda has suddenly fallen in love with the "reactionary" Arabs and is assailing the former "Cuba of the Middle East." What happened?

The answer is very simple. The "line" changed. Unlike those of us on the Right, current fashion means everything to the Left. The fact that contemporary liberals can now not even remember ever having supported Israel to begin with merely illustrates this fact. When Israel was "cool," they were pro-Israel. When Israel became "un-cool" they did a complete about face without the slightest qualm because they apparently don't have any internal beliefs on anything; they merely seek to be "fashionable." How else to explain the Israeli Labour Party's going from hawkish David Ben Gurion and Golda Meir to its current self-hating "our country was a mistake" line?

Those of us on the Right who supported Israel back then didn't allow ourselves to be bullied by the predominant anti-Israel consensus on our side of the spectrum. And I highly suspect that those on the Right who remain anti-Israel also don't give a fig for current consensus. That is because whether people on the Right support or oppose Israel, they do so for deeply-held principals that cannot be compromised. Not so the Left.

To show you how far the domestic Left (again, as opposed to the International Left, which was always anti-Israel) has changed, even the alleged "pro-Israel" remarks of Martin Luther King Jr. are now being attacked because he was unfamiliar with the subject and didn't know what he was talking about. Martin, meet your replacement: the King of Saudi Arabia.

How long before RFK is either disowned for being pro-Israel or his pro-Israel position erased from history?

27 posted on 04/30/2012 10:06:18 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: raulgomez05
In any crime the question is “Who benefits?”. My choice has always been LBJ even the MLK murder and the Wallace shooting helped him establish his re-enslavement through the “Great Society”. The enslavement is for everybody now.
28 posted on 04/30/2012 10:06:50 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again.")
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
A quick google search shows Sirhan was a Palestinian Christian.

He was also, like an amazing number of "palestianian chrstians," a Communist.

29 posted on 04/30/2012 10:09:10 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: UCANSEE2

Google Thane Eugene Cesar for the name and accounts of the actions of RFK’s security guard.

Also look into the coroner’s report, where Thomas Noguchi places Sirhan continually in front of RFK and unable to deliver the fatal bullet which was shot from behind.

The more important questions concern how Sirhan happened to get to a position where he could shoot RFK. Sirhan was not a criminal genius, so if you focus on who helped him to be in the right place at the right time then you are in a better position to conclude that he couldn’t have been acting alone.


30 posted on 04/30/2012 10:21:21 AM PDT by research99
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To: raulgomez05

* for later


31 posted on 04/30/2012 10:36:29 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: research99
The more important questions concern how Sirhan happened to get to a position where he could shoot RFK. Sirhan was not a criminal genius, so if you focus on who helped him to be in the right place at the right time then you are in a better position to conclude that he couldn’t have been acting alone.

Not to mention the 9-13 bullets that were fired and the six separate people who were shot.

32 posted on 04/30/2012 11:09:11 AM PDT by Talisker (He who commands, must obey.)
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To: fella

I have always believed that Johnson was complicit in the JFK killing. He hated the Kennedy brothers because they thought he was a country rube and rubbed his nose in it. Lady Bird, naive as she was, when telling of waiting on Air Force One at Love Field in Dallas, was quoted as saying, “Lyndon was so upset that he wanted to know if Bobby should be called to quote the precise swearing-in verbage.”

I thing LBJ really wanted to call Bobby to say, “Ha, ha.”


33 posted on 04/30/2012 11:12:05 AM PDT by MisterArtery
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To: raulgomez05
"There were more than eight shots," Rhodes-Hughes said by phone. She says that during the FBI interview in her Los Angeles home, one month after the assassination, she told the agents that she'd heard 12 to 14 shots. "There were at least 12, maybe 14. And I know there were because I heard the rhythm in my head," Rhodes-Hughes said.

"rhythm in my head". What do you make of that?

Most shooters in DGUs are unaware of the precise number of rounds fired. In many cases the gun is shot empty. (A citizen coming to the aid of an attempted assassination of the P.O. here in Phoenix in the mid nighties, emptied, then reloaded his Glock 32 in 357Sig. He fired two 13-round magazines, before he realized it. Of course he knew how many rounds he fired FROM the number of empty magazines. He wasn't counting.)

I find it hard to believe someone can count 12-14 shots by "keeping the rhythm in one's head". In Hollywood gun fights on TV, shooters seldom reload, but manage to put many more rounds down range than what is physically possible. Do viewers even know?

In a closed room can one really tell the origin of gun fire based upon sound?

What I was looking for in the article was whether Rhodes-Huges had any familiarity with weapons. Didn't see it.

34 posted on 04/30/2012 11:12:23 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: raulgomez05

Sirhan is a Christian Arab who was born in Jerusalem and who strongly opposed Israel. In 1989, he told David Frost “My only connection with Robert Kennedy was his sole support of Israel and his deliberate attempt to send those 50 bombers to Israel to obviously do harm to the Palestinians”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirhan_Sirhan


35 posted on 04/30/2012 11:15:01 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FOCUS ON FACTS: 0bamaCare Hated. Worst Recovery. Failed Stimulus. Worst Deficits.)
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To: ladyjane
“...her diary supposedly disappeared.”

Marilyn Monroe's BFF said MM’s diary was missing, too.

Oh, what capers these guys get into..../s

36 posted on 04/30/2012 11:23:46 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah - OBAMA SUCKS!)
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To: research99

“how Sirhan happened to get to a position where he could shoot RFK”

He looked like a busboy to the Kennedy’s.


37 posted on 04/30/2012 11:30:30 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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To: abb
“The point is, the MSM has ALWAYS been in the tank for the Marxists/Bolsheviks/Democrats but we never had any alternative news-gathering/news-distribution systems like we have nowadays with the internet.”

One of my relatives lived in Virginia and worked in DC. He said it was common knowledge - that EVERYONE knew about JFK and Marilyn Monroe.

He knew it, his friends knew it, the PRESS absolutely knew it.

When did the American press start with the lies?

Sorry state they are in now, but I wonder how far back it took for the press to go sour.

38 posted on 04/30/2012 11:32:20 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah - OBAMA SUCKS!)
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To: raulgomez05
I only scanned the article but is there any physical evidence to suggest a second gun? If 14 shots from .22s were fired in the confined, crowded space, how come there were either not more bullet wounds in RFK (and/or others) or recoverable bullets in the walls, cabinets, doors, etc.?

In the confusion of the moment, I doubt anyone could accurately remember how many shots they heard - only that they heard a bunch. Is there news reel footage of this? Surely, someone has tried to determine the number of shots from the tape.

39 posted on 04/30/2012 11:32:52 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Wow...thanks for the lesson!


40 posted on 04/30/2012 11:41:20 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah - OBAMA SUCKS!)
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To: fella

“...helped him establish his re-enslavement through the “Great Society”. The enslavement is for everybody now. “

All things (and history) considered, it hasn’t really taken that long at all.


41 posted on 04/30/2012 11:45:02 AM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah - OBAMA SUCKS!)
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To: CommerceComet

You can locate many articles challenging the official story of the RFK assassination by doing a bit of research on the internet.

Evidence found on the scene included photos taken by student Scott Enyart, which were seized then destroyed many years later when he asked for them to be returned.

Door jambs which reportedly had bullet holes in them were also destroyed by the LAPD.


42 posted on 04/30/2012 12:01:20 PM PDT by research99
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To: Rummyfan
I thought that was odd, too, taking 42 years to heal.

Who knows what it takes for anyone to heal, but what if it is that she is SAFE talking about it now?

Maybe she had been threatened for all these 42 years and cannot be threatened now.

Anyone of import die recently that may have been tormenting her all these years? Who knows, she may be shopping a book around and around and around.

43 posted on 04/30/2012 12:01:20 PM PDT by hummingbird (Just askin' or just sayin' depending on the subject. Oh yeah - OBAMA SUCKS!)
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To: Talisker
While this of course has no actual bearing on whatever theories he holds about the RFK assassination, I remind you that Dan Moldea is no friend of FReepers. In fact, back when Clinton was President he actually came here and attempted to bully us, shouting for us to come out from behind our screen names (yeah, that would have been a good idea).

I suspect this is one reason FR no longer displays our e-mail addresses along with our screen name signatures, as it once did. At any rate since that day I have been very careful to remain anonymous online.

44 posted on 04/30/2012 12:23:15 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: hummingbird

If you witnessed an assassination of a well known political figure would you be calling the newspapers to tell what you saw? Think about it. Remember Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby, Kitty what’s her name who interviewed Ruby, Mary Pinchot, et al. I’d be claiming amnesia - just like Siran.


45 posted on 04/30/2012 12:24:35 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: research99
You can locate many articles challenging the official story of the RFK assassination by doing a bit of research on the internet.

I'm aware of this but I'm not that interested to spend the time looking into it. That's why I asked those more knowledgeable than myself about this topic: is there any physical evidence to suggest more than one gun was used? Missing items make for great conspiracy pieces but too often have legitimate, non-conspiratorial reasons.

Otherwise, I'm very skeptical of witness testimony about something as specific as the exact number of gunshots heard when multiple shots were fired in a chaotic situation.

46 posted on 04/30/2012 12:29:14 PM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: hummingbird; conservatism_IS_compassion
Sorry state they are in now, but I wonder how far back it took for the press to go sour.

Fellow FReeper conservatism_IS_compassion places the time at or about when the telegraph was invented. "News" had to be condensed and edited to such a degree that one and only one "version" could be put out because of the technological constriction of the distribution method. I think his theory has merit.

47 posted on 04/30/2012 12:34:55 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: CommerceComet

Hard evidence was in many cases destroyed by the LAPD.
Ceiling tiles and door frames with bullet holes would have helped to illustrate the number and trajectory of all bullets fired. Photos taken by Scott Enyart were later “lost” when they were scheduled to be returned by him.

Without that evidence, the more compelling story is how LAPD investigators didn’t do the legwork to determine all the activities of persons who were in contact with Sirhan before the shooting, and pressured witnesses who contradicted the “lone nut shooter” conclusion they apparently wanted to draw.

Kennedy originally wasn’t supposed to be in the pantry that night, as it was a last-minute switch from his planned route. Sirhan held a loaded gun but he wasn’t a clairvoyant genius who could forsee or control RFK’s movements.
Somehow the two occupied the same place at the same time.

Who was in a position to have MMO to kill RFK? That’s the basics of any murder investigation but yet what the LAPD chose to suppress rather than fully disclose. That’s why we’re still wondering, 44 years later.


48 posted on 04/30/2012 12:43:25 PM PDT by research99
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To: raulgomez05

JFK was most certainly murdered by a plot hatched by LBJ according to the last episode of “The Men Who Killed Kennedy”, which has since completely disappeared and is not including now in the box set nor is it on the ‘net any longer.
Other stuff I’ve dug through also points to this.

RFK? I don’t know. None of that makes sense other than a plot by the Mafia.


49 posted on 04/30/2012 1:33:52 PM PDT by TheRhinelander
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To: TheRhinelander

His death was a trauma; I was 12 and devastated.


50 posted on 04/30/2012 1:55:09 PM PDT by freepertoo
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