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Voting for Romney (D-Mass.): The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could Make
Country Thinker ^ | april 7, 2012 | Ted Lacksonen

Posted on 04/30/2012 9:14:40 AM PDT by Mozilla

Why am I so pas­sion­ate today? Well, most read­ers who visit here know the coun­try is in deep doo-​​doo. I’m here to tell you that vot­ing for Mitt Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) will not change that fact and may make things worse. I will explain two things. First, Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) is the pre­sump­tive Repub­li­can nom­i­nee pre­cisely because he will do noth­ing to improve our country’s for­tunes. He is the cho­sen one because he will main­tain the sta­tus quo. That is what the GOP machine has cho­sen him to do.

Sec­ond, you can­not “take over” the Repub­li­can machine and turn it into some­thing in decent. I have made that state­ment before, but I’m going to describe the machine in greater detail. Keep in mind that this is infor­ma­tion I have obtained from cur­rent and for­mer GOP insid­ers. Every­one on the inside agrees that the Party has been con­structed so it can­not be taken over. They have also con­structed a polit­i­cal sys­tem so the polit­i­cal duop­oly is very, very dif­fi­cult to chal­lenge. (Repub­li­can insid­ers HATE polit­i­cal free­dom, like so many other free­doms.) Whether that’s a good thing or bad thing is a mat­ter of judg­ment. For con­ser­v­a­tives and lib­er­tar­i­ans it’s bad. For estab­lish­men­tar­i­ans it’s wonderful.

Finally I will explain why vot­ing for Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) is the worst thing you can do, regard­less of whether you’re a “prin­ci­pals” voter or a “strate­gic” voter.

If you are not one hun­dred per­cent con­vinced that I am cor­rect in those state­ments, you absolutely must read the rest of this piece and tell me where I’m wrong. I know I’m cor­rect, and I can assure you that if you vote for Rom­ney (D-Mass.) it will be the great­est polit­i­cal regret of your life.

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KEYWORDS: election; rino2012; romney; votefor
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To: jersey117

You are basing your decision on Romney's past.

Yes ... yes, I am. For the good of America I hope the number of conservatives that do the same vastly outnumber those with only good intentions and wishful thinking. Like you, I am basing my decision on the good of future generations. I make the stand today with my blood, sweat, and tears in hopes that they will not have to. I understand that you are doing what you feel is right -- and I respect you for it. After years of seeing the results of voting for the lesser of two evils, I'm going to try something different. I plan to vote for Goode.


101 posted on 04/30/2012 11:41:56 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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Click the link. The Republic you save may be your own.

102 posted on 04/30/2012 11:45:53 AM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: tnlibertarian
So, go hold your breath until you get your way

Only an immature person would keep comparing people who refuse to vote for a pro-abort, big govt socialist as children.

I've seen dead aborted children up close and personal. Have you? I've seen a dead miscarried baby (where I could make out the sex of that child). Have you?

And yet you openly go to bat for someone who told Katie Couric Dec of 07 that PARENTS could give up their offspring to "research."

These are sober, serious issues. And you want to keep it all on the level of holding one's breath???

I suppose for your next verbosity, you'll talk about posters taking their "toys" and "going home."

If you'll notice, 'twas the people who tended to vote with their wallet who gave us the liberal businessman, Mitt Romney, to begin with...

The true "toys" -- are the materialist toy-accumulaters who vote for themselves first...self-survivalists who can't understand the basic Christ-spoken theme of picking up our cross and following Him...

103 posted on 04/30/2012 11:46:46 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian

Did you want to go there? You know once someone pulled out the ‘i’m a real conservative card’ on me. Of course to him,as to you the only conservative was someone that agreed with him. You understand that narrow minded approach guarantees nothing but smaller and smaller cliques as time passes. The intended insult of labeling us ‘so called conservatives’. What does the word conservative mean to you?
Constitution? Does it contain fiscal policy as well? Give us “so called conservatives” your definition so we know what we have to live up to. But if i were you i’d make it good because you threw a bunch of names into your insult.

As to trying to convince you it was certainly never my intent. The article at top however was designed to get as many people to sit out the election as possible.
This is a forum. An article is posted. People enter opinions from more than two sides of a questions. That’s what goes on here. If i wanted to go where there was only one opinion allowed i’d be elsewhere.


104 posted on 04/30/2012 11:46:46 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Colofornian; INVAR

You and INVAR really come across as a couple of self-stroking anarchists. I really think both of you need some counseling. Reality is a Mistress not to be ignored.


105 posted on 04/30/2012 11:47:10 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Mozilla
But the GOP has him effec­tively neutered leg­isla­tively, so there is lit­tle for him to do there.

That's a hoot. The GOP is in bed with him. Legislatively? Another hoot with all his late Friday executive orders.

106 posted on 04/30/2012 11:47:49 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Last Dakotan

Who is Gary Johnson?

He’s Lyndon LaRpuche’s godson.


107 posted on 04/30/2012 11:53:15 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: Last Dakotan

Who is Gary Johnson?

He’s Lyndon LaRouche’s godson.


108 posted on 04/30/2012 11:53:22 AM PDT by jimmyo57
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To: wiggen

OK, I was hoping for something original though. We all have heard this for years now.

Our elections depend on those individuals that choose to run. Unfortunately, these people are usually politicians...


109 posted on 04/30/2012 11:54:46 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Colofornian
Having a “life time view” and a “world view/ big picture view” is just a wonderful thing. BUT it helps to take each circumstance as it comes your way and deal with it straight on. Right now you will be confronted with Obama vs. Romney, like it or not. So you write in your own name or someone else that has no chance what soever. How is that helping your ,say, grandson who already owes the government over $50,000? I'll tell you a big secret, if you really want to know the future, read the Book of Revelation. According to that, we are right where we should be at this time in history. I challenge you to find America in that book. Where do you think it went?
110 posted on 04/30/2012 11:55:41 AM PDT by fish hawk (Religion: Man's attempt to gain salvation or the approbation of God by his own works)
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To: wiggen
Of course to him,as to you the only conservative was someone that agreed with him. You understand that narrow minded approach guarantees nothing but smaller and smaller cliques as time passes

[I'd say that's rather consistent with the end-times view as depicted by Jesus...see Matthew 24...Paul (see 2 Timothy 3)...John (see Revelation)...]

But, of course, if you're some "idealist" that things are somehow going to "get better" because of some "political relativistic" notion...that tossing away the meaning behind the pro-life plank because we have a pro-abort running as an (r)...or yielding ANY crit of Obama's socialistic healthcare because we now have the original pioneer master of it running as an (r)...etc...

Then, by all means, be sure to conservatively mentor us, then re: this 'new' "conservative confession" we're all to embrace...

...we at least listen.

111 posted on 04/30/2012 11:55:59 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: knarf
Or is that what is being fomented here ... revolution?

Well if the alternative is to be forced to fund murders through government run institutions of socialized medicine, maybe that's what this country needs. Now to play it safe, let's all go read Civil Disobedience before the DHLS sends the Federali’s to throw us in the clink.
112 posted on 04/30/2012 11:55:59 AM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. II Corinthians 3:17)
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To: G Larry

America won’t survive another 4 of Hussein. Her death will merely be slower with Romney. Even if she survived 4 years under either of them it will be Hillary v Romney II or Hillary v Rubio meaning another fixed election. Something killed off the last conservative in DC back around 2005.


113 posted on 04/30/2012 11:57:28 AM PDT by bgill
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To: jimmyo57

But he was repressed!


114 posted on 04/30/2012 12:01:25 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: stuartcr

Maybe you’re that guy. I thought Palin was. Maybe she still will be. What can we do? Hope we recognize that person/s. Then pitch in where we can. I wish i had something new and intelligent to tell you but i think we have 2 entrenched parties and its going to be hard,bark breaking and soul wrenching work to make inroads.


115 posted on 04/30/2012 12:04:41 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Colofornian
So, now you essentially accuse those who support the defeat of 0bama of being baby-killers? Drama queen.

One of two things happens in November: Obama is elected or Romney is elected. That's it. No third option, no third party, no Sarah to ride to the rescue, no brokered convention. I don't want the former to happen. Period. Do you?

116 posted on 04/30/2012 12:05:58 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (I <3 PEJSWDTDSOPC)
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To: Colofornian

No no. I defer to you who tossed out the ‘so called conservative’ line. That was you? Not me? I have that correct?


117 posted on 04/30/2012 12:06:49 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: fish hawk; All
Having a “life time view” and a “world view/ big picture view” is just a wonderful thing. BUT it helps to take each circumstance as it comes your way and deal with it straight on. Right now you will be confronted with Obama vs. Romney, like it or not. So you write in your own name or someone else that has no chance what soever. How is that helping your ,say, grandson who already owes the government over $50,000? I'll tell you a big secret, if you really want to know the future, read the Book of Revelation. According to that, we are right where we should be at this time in history.

Let's start with your comment re: a grandson who already owes the government over $50,000.

I think if our convo extended enough we could come to the same conclusion that the basic problem here is that BOTH Dems & Republican congressmen & POTUS(es) -- with Dems being the far worse culprits -- have refused in recent times...I'd say since the Gingrich "Contract with America" that ran out...what? 16 years ago?

So for a decade-and-a-half we've had leaders on both sides (again, with Dems being far worse) who have refused to "bite the bullet" NOW!

Instead, they have chosen to mortgage future generations.

Well, just as that is true financially and budget-wise, the same Waterloo is before us now re: the size of govt, re: appointing liberal judges, re: abortion, etc.

We have TWO mainstream liberal candidates running. And just as our Congressional/POtus leaders have refused to bit the bullet financially over these past 16 years, we now see the same is true of many conservative voters (re: size of govt, social-issues, socialized healthcare, endorsing idolatry, moral issues, etc.)

They don't want to "bite the political bullet" in 2012.
They want to pass on the problem of RINOs to future generations.
They want to pass on the problem of pro-abortion (Rs) to future generations.
They want to pass on the problem of big-govt POTUS candidates to future generations.
They want to pass on the problem of socialism to future generations.

So.

Just stop complaining then about Dems who refuse to "bite the bullet" re: budgets and socialized healthcare and protecting the next generation emerging from the womb.

Why? Because you've embraced somebody who's a Dem photocopy of these very same issues.

118 posted on 04/30/2012 12:08:33 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: tnlibertarian

Yes. He went there. The truth outs. One issue perfectionist. Why did i wast my time responding.


119 posted on 04/30/2012 12:08:44 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: bossmechanic
It is also a liar, which indicates it's a democrat trying to establish deep cover for divide and conquer work the obamanoids have as last resort.

And just for the record, I find Milt Rominy to be a loathesome creature. But I do not believe this America will survive another four years of the little bastard commie and his thugocracy. Rominy will only work out if we can elect a majority into the Seante who will hold the 'melchizedek high priest's feet to Constitution. If not, all we have done is stretched the collapse out a few short years. But we know how the Cloward-Piven strategy ends the Republic, and we can see what the little bastard commie is doing to the infrastructure for his elitist masters, and what he will do to the SCOTUS will end the rule of law and establish rule by the oligarchs. At least with Milt we are still guessing how socialist he is.

120 posted on 04/30/2012 12:18:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: bossmechanic
It is also a liar, which indicates it's a democrat trying to establish deep cover for divide and conquer work the obamanoids have as last resort.

And just for the record, I find Milt Rominy to be a loathesome creature. But I do not believe this America will survive another four years of the little bastard commie and his thugocracy. Rominy will only work out if we can elect a majority into the Senate who will hold the 'melchizedek high priest's feet to Constitution. If not, all we have done is stretched the collapse out a few short years.

But we know how the Cloward-Piven strategy ends the Republic very quickly, and we can see what the little bastard commie is doing to the infrastructure for his elitist masters, we can see the racial dividing this racist prick is fomenting, and what he will do to the SCOTUS will end the rule of law and establish rule by the oligarchs. At least with Milt we are still guessing how socialist he is.

121 posted on 04/30/2012 12:19:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: wiggen
Why did i waste my time responding.

I just fussed at myself for the same thing. The ironic thing is, I would put my pro-life beliefs, credentials and experiences against anybody's. While not exceeding everyone's, I know I wouldn't be found wanting. While I was anti-abortion before, one does not have a child born 12 weeks early and watch that child fight and struggle while growing slowly stronger just a little bit each day and experience setbacks and complications, and then good days and improvements, and surgeries, and healings, until they finally come home 10 weeks later and today have a wonderfully healthy four-year old, and all of this after losing another child even earlier along a couple of years earlier, without gaining a better understanding of God's miracle of life and just how precious it is.

What a run-on sentence. It simply comes down to the fact that our country needs Obama to lose. And there is only one path that leads there.

122 posted on 04/30/2012 12:20:14 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (I <3 PEJSWDTDSOPC)
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To: Colofornian
I'll be voting one time, party ticket.

What-ever floats your boat.

I'll be voting against the Communist, you go ahead and sit this one out.

But don't come back to FR bitching about an Obamah 2nd term.

What a fool!!

123 posted on 04/30/2012 12:24:30 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: wiggen

I’m good for maybe 4 or 5 more presidential elections...I doubt I will see much of a change before I’m gone.


124 posted on 04/30/2012 12:27:47 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: Mozilla

Sounds like virtually the same arguments I’ve been making about Romney and the GOP since this primary started. It all seemed quite apparent by reading in between the lines of how everything went down, especially the massive, inexplicable bias towards Romney by most of the “conservative” media. That kind of thing does not come from people who altruistically want the “best” candidate. It comes from a coordinated and well-funded propaganda machine. Interesting to see everything I observed about Romney and the GOP confirmed by someone who actually has inside connections. I’m not interested in going libertarian though. Hopefully Americans Elect picks someone more appealing.


125 posted on 04/30/2012 12:30:03 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: stuartcr

hmm 4-5. Including this one when i turn 58.....


126 posted on 04/30/2012 12:30:25 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: tnlibertarian
So, now you essentially accuse those who support the defeat of 0bama of being baby-killers? Drama queen.

So...do you ... or do you not...
...lay the blame of Obama problems & consequences -- all that fall-out delivered to our laps as voter-citizens
...at the feet of Obama voters or not?

If you're consistent...All that Obama fall-out we've suffered household-by-household...would be just a "drama queen" association if anybody was to actually tie Obama policies & Obama doctrines & Obama socialism to actual Obama voters.

Why, sayz you, apparently those Obama voters had nothing to do with our national suffering. Why, anybody making such a claim is merely engaging in anti-libertarian "drama queenism."

Of course, I don't think you can be consistent here...(Why would that surprise me about a Romney supporter on a conservative site?)

One of two things happens in November: Obama is elected or Romney is elected. That's it. No third option, no third party, no Sarah to ride to the rescue, no brokered convention. I don't want the former to happen. Period. Do you?

Barring a sudden economic freefall, I believe the MSM will rise up in this country and deliver the most potent Romney vetting ever delivered of a candidate in a 5-6 month period

Most of it -- they won't even need to make up (for once). They can just post Romney-as-is.

I believe that will turn the voter tide vs. Romney...
...the Independents will begin to run away because of whacky Mormonism being finally vetted by the MSM (I say "finally" 'cause it's mostly been surface stuff til now)...
...Some conservative Christians will think twice about endorsing idolatry -- a candidate who thinks he's a "god-in-embryo"...
...Some pro-life conservatives will think long & hard about voting for someone who still thinks it's "OK" for parents to give their offspring to "research"...
...Some libertarians will think long & hard about voting for a big-govt socialist healthcare pioneer...
...And all will see how untrustworthy ANYTHING Romney says is...his flip-flops on abortion, on embryos, on protecting sexual minority employees, etc...are all legendary...

That'll be "enough" to ensure a Romney loss...And then all of the pro-Romney supporters on FR will have egg on their face...

Why?

#1 They will have wasted their vote. If the only votes that truly count are the ones for the winner, then all other votes were wasted...those votes for a second-place also-ran were no better than the votes for a third-place also-ran. "Also-rans" just don't count -- as posters like you keep reminding us.

#2 They will have seared their conscience once and for all. No longer will they be able to come on FR and preach vs. big govt...or socialistic healthcare...or abortion policies...or liberal judge appointments...why? Because they embraced the same liberal candidacy on these same issues...only the (R) version of the same! To do some about-face would be downright hypocrisy!

#3 They will have seared their FR reputation.

Big govt? Check. ("Count me in as a 'conservative voter'")/sarc
Socialistic healthcare? Check. ("Count me in as a 'conservative voter'") /sarc
Aborting & giving the next generation in the womb to research? Check. ("Count me in as a 'conservative voter'") /sarc
Appointing 75% of liberal judges? Check. ("Count me in as a 'conservative voter'") /sarc

127 posted on 04/30/2012 12:30:50 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: TexasCajun

Excellent point. If Obama wins then anyone that did not vote to defeat him really needs to shut their mouth the next 4 years about his policies.


128 posted on 04/30/2012 12:31:38 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Mozilla

Sounds like virtually the same arguments I’ve been making here about Romney and the GOP since this primary started, right down to him being an empty-suited Wall Street puppet who wants the title in exchange for doing everything his handlers in the party and its financial backers want. It all seemed quite apparent by reading in between the lines of how everything went down, especially the massive, inexplicable bias towards Romney by most of the “conservative” media. That kind of thing does not come from people who altruistically want the “best” candidate. It comes from a coordinated and well-funded propaganda machine. Interesting to see everything I observed about Romney and the GOP confirmed by someone who actually has inside connections. I’m not interested in going libertarian though. Hopefully Americans Elect finds someone more appealing.


129 posted on 04/30/2012 12:37:00 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: jersey117

If you’ve seen some of the articles interviewing voters you know all kinds of them voted for Romney for some of the stupidest, most vapid reasons imaginable. There are also some Tea Party groups which endorsed Romney, which shows they’re either corrupt, infiltrated by the establishment or just plain stupid.


130 posted on 04/30/2012 12:40:46 PM PDT by JediJones (From the makers of Romney, Bloomberg/Schwarzenegger 2016. Because the GOP can never go too far left.)
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To: TexasCajun; All
I'll be voting against the Communist, you go ahead and sit this one out.

Who's sitting anything out? There's other races/issues besides POTUS. I, like, hundreds of thousands & eventual millions of other GOP voters, will become ex-GoP when Romney gets the nomination...(I don't predict a huge exodus in 2012...many will wait til Romney becomes another Bob Dole & will leave in 2013)

The shrinking pie piece of registered voters -- 29% right now for the Repubs -- will shrink all the more as they move further toward Whig-like extinction. (I mean, hey, if we wanted somebody to the left of LBJ, many of us would have become Dems long ago!)

But don't come back to FR bitching about an Obamah 2nd term.

Well, don't come back on FR bitching about the potential Dems' POTUS dynasty because the Republicans decided to provoke and evacuate its base in 2012.

Remember...Evangelicals were 34% of the ENTIRE electorate in the 2010 election. That's not 34% of the Republican primaries... but the entire vote...

The Evangelicals didn't rally around a single candidate; split their vote; and we get RINOman as the result.

Some will vote for self-confessed "evil"; others won't.

And even those that do will wind up with a bad taste in their mouth they'll never be able to get rid of...that guilt coupled with association of being a Republican will eventually cause many of them to leave the party.

How ironic. Here conservatives blamed politicians for not biting the bullet -- when they themselves as voter-citizens didn't want to bite the 2012 bullet, either.

We are guilty of the very thing we accuse politicians of...We deserve as a nation God's holy judgment.

131 posted on 04/30/2012 12:43:34 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian
There's other races/issues besides POTUS

None of them have the power of the Executive Order.

132 posted on 04/30/2012 12:52:42 PM PDT by jersey117
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To: knarf

I’m voting and it sure as hell isn’t for Steve Dunham. To not vote for Pres means an 0 vote. My vote will at least cancel that of a Dem dead.


133 posted on 04/30/2012 12:53:46 PM PDT by mcshot (God bless the USA!)
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To: bossmechanic; INVAR; All
You and INVAR really come across as a couple of self-stroking anarchists. I really think both of you need some counseling. Reality is a Mistress not to be ignored

Reality is somebody in town telling you that your daughter can either marry...
...(a) somebody who will abort your grandkids
...Or (b) somebody who will abort your grandkids while also giving some of them to "research"

And, then, you, thinking "reality" is what you've been told, wind up publicly endorsing "choice B".

Now, it's true...Perhaps, your daughter would have married choice (a) or choice (b), anyway...Maybe, you thought you were just making the best of a situation in which you invited a mistress into your life who was advising you to tell your daughter to avoid choice (a) at all costs...and you knew Choice C wouldn't work out til four years down the line...

But hey...what you forgot is there's no guarantee that choice (b) would result in a real "marriage," anyway...after all, a six-month "marriage of convenience" that ends in a divorce to a loser wasn't a marriage worth endorsing, anyway, right?

So...beyond that...is endorsing such a grandkid-aborting character what you want to be known for reputationally (as well as ultimate accountability before God)?

134 posted on 04/30/2012 12:58:52 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: jersey117

So what? I was only clarifying I’ve not advised anyone to “stay home”...so FR posters should stop making overreach assumptions that don’t apply.


135 posted on 04/30/2012 1:00:52 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: tnlibertarian

Amen ... and blessings to your little one.


136 posted on 04/30/2012 1:12:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Colofornian
As of March 13, YOU'RE giving it to Romney
137 posted on 04/30/2012 1:13:02 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Colofornian
So, when Obamah is defeated without your help, I take it you will be disappointed?

How warped is that!!

138 posted on 04/30/2012 1:16:14 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Colofornian
So sear my reputation, Colo. If you can show me ONE just one candidate other than Milt Rominy who has an outside chance of dethroning little barry abstard, then I will vote for that one. America will not survive another four years of the current commie-in-chief. His use of the Cloward-Piven startegy should make that very clear. I wanted to vote for the Constitutional candidate, but it is looking very slim for him to get even 3% of the votes. With a vote for Milt Rominy at least America CAN have four more years to wake up and fly right. With four more years of little barry bastard commie, the story ends before another chance to alter the course of this nation without major civil war.
139 posted on 04/30/2012 1:18:33 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: knarf
As of March 13, YOU'RE giving it to Romney

As of now, you've become a pro-abort...
A RINO
A promoter of Big govt
A promoter of socialistic healthcare
A promoter of global warming
A promoter of liberal judge appointers
A promoter of idolatry -- elevating somebody who portends to be a "god in embryo" on his way to full grown-up godhood
A promoter of somebody who embraced with 10% of his income open racism from age 18 to 31 -- and who still endorses "sacred books" that proclaim the same!

Wow! Such a "new" proud Republican "tradition" to leave your kids & grandkids!

140 posted on 04/30/2012 1:20:54 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: tnlibertarian; wiggen
The ironic thing is, I would put my pro-life beliefs, credentials and experiences against anybody's

Who's talking about anybody's credentials or experiences?

(I'm not)

I don't know you. You're a stranger -- as is your past.

But I can distinguish between past performance and current advocacy.

When you support somebody, who post his so-called "pro-life conversion," still advocated -- to Katie Couric the first week of December, 2007...a full year into his so-called "pro-life" campaign mode...that it's "OK" for "parents" to give their offspring to "research," then let's not do what the liberals do and start playing euphemistic word-games.

Let's call our offspring who they are...and no, that doesn't mean becoming advocates for how "researchable" they might be...and embrace such candidates that do that...

If 90-99% of pro-life voters vote for a "pro-abort," why bother even trying to set ourselves apart from other pro-abort voters?
If 90-99% of conservative voters vote for a liberal, why bother even trying to set ourselves apart from other liberal voters?

Just run down the Romney list and ask yourself the same Q re: big govt, socialistic healthcare, appointing liberal judges, global warming, etc...

141 posted on 04/30/2012 1:29:40 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: MHGinTN
America will not survive another four years of the current commie-in-chief.

Hey, we've been friends. I respect your opinions.

You might be right here. And I respect all FREEPERs who continually make this point.

I need to ask you, tho, are you speaking prophetically here? Are you sure our God isn't strong enough to help us overcome an enemy like Obama?

'Cause I'll tell you what...I've studied quite carefully the series of persecutions that Christians underwent in the 300 years post-Christ's death & resurrection...And even though some of those civilizations didn't fair well, the Christians not only survived but thrived!

If you can show me ONE just one candidate other than Milt Rominy who has an outside chance of dethroning little barry abstard, then I will vote for that one.

OK. It may seem a bit obvious after I tell you...but...if I am right...and IF we as a country do survive another Obama 4 years...the answer is "Choice C."

And who is Choice C?

Lord willing, it's a conservative who can win in 2016! [Believe me, Obama is not permanent! And Romney is no "political savior."]

Please all I am suggesting is that we "bite the bullet" in 2012...the very same message we need to send to Congress & the White House!

142 posted on 04/30/2012 1:37:59 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: TexasCajun

I'll be voting against the Communist, you go ahead and sit this one out.

Neither one will claim to be Communist ... but there will be two on the ballot that are at least socialist ... which one are you voting against? Is it okay to come back to FR and b*tch about the one that you did support? Is that really any better?


143 posted on 04/30/2012 1:39:40 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: al_c

Work to deny him (Romney) a second term - WITH WHOM? Party candidates normally do not run against their own incumbent. And, if you think it’ll go “all primary” on an incumbent Romney, I’ve got some beach land to sell you in Nebraska. That will not happen.


144 posted on 04/30/2012 1:40:20 PM PDT by Student0165 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: Colofornian
Are you sure our God isn't strong enough to help us overcome an enemy like Obama?

_________________________________________

Do you work for your living or did God provide you with a winning lottery number?

Or maybe we should ask Holocaust survivors your question -- I know a couple, want me to find out what they think about waiting for God to save you from an evil despot?

145 posted on 04/30/2012 1:43:22 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Mr. Lucky; Mozilla
I’m with you; let’s all work to re-elect President Obama.
Sure. Why not? What have we got to lose?
146 posted on 04/30/2012 1:48:03 PM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: Student0165
Work to deny him (Romney) a second term - WITH WHOM? Party candidates normally do not run against their own incumbent. And, if you think it’ll go “all primary” on an incumbent Romney, I’ve got some beach land to sell you in Nebraska. That will not happen.

It would have to start now ... not in early 2016. A message would have to be sent to Mittens ... loud and clear ... that we will not stand for any further left leanings from him. And if he does, we will have a conservative candidate waiting and ready to challenge him. This could be accomplished by more involvement from the tea party folks, calls to representatives/senators, etc ... the avenues to keep Mittens in check.

IMO, that would be a lot easier than recovering from 4 more years of the Kenyan.

147 posted on 04/30/2012 1:55:09 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Colofornian

We have a very opposite opinion. You believe the voting rights will survive four more years and chaos and mayhem of a collapsed economy will not happen if barry is ruler for four more years. I most adamently disagree and I have clear indications that the final collapse is already being arranged, to end American resistence to the global one world government and banking powers. I understand that it is more comforting to believe God will not allow US to collapse, but you forget Wse The People have allowed evil to rise to unimagined heights, even willfully slaughtering the blessings God sends to US via the womb. I’m sure you’re familiar with the Biblical passage of ‘If my People, who are called by my name ...’ Well, Colo, We The People spit on that long ago and now we are fending off evil we could not have imagined rising to control this once great country. Milt may buy US more time to repent. Barry will crush US if we allow him to remain in power. He is an evil man with evil bosses who placed him at the top over another evil person, Hillary Clinton. Our votes are the last resort we have, and I don’t appreciate you trying to squerlch my posts by inveigling this discussion with ‘don’t you believe our God is big enough?’ Our God is giving us chance after chance to renet of this abandonment of our sovereignty. Voting against little barry commie is an exercise of sovereignty, to buy US time to change the direction of this nation or perish.


148 posted on 04/30/2012 1:55:24 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Colofornian
We have a very opposite opinion. You believe the voting rights will survive four more years and chaos and mayhem of a collapsed economy will not happen if barry is ruler for four more years. I most adamently disagree and I have clear indications that the final collapse is already being arranged, to end American resistence to the global one world government and banking powers. I understand that it is more comforting to believe God will not allow US to collapse, but you forget Wse The People have allowed evil to rise to unimagined heights, even willfully slaughtering the blessings God sends to US via the womb. I'm sure you're familiar with the Biblical passage of 'If my People, who are called by my name ...' Well, Colo, We The People spit on that long ago and now we are fending off evil we could not have imagined rising to control this once great country. Milt may buy US more time to repent. Barry will crush US if we allow him to remain in power. He is an evil man with evil bosses who placed him at the top over another evil person, Hillary Clinton. Our votes are the last resort we have, and I don't appreciate you trying to squerlch my posts by inveigling this discussion with 'don't you believe our God is big enough?' Our God is giving us chance after chance to repent of this abandonment of our sovereignty. Voting against little barry commie is an exercise of sovereignty, to buy US time to change the direction of this nation or perish.
149 posted on 04/30/2012 1:56:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN
blessings to your little one.

Thanks. We had his fourth (time flies) birthday party three or four weeks ago. We have a couple of nieghbors with little ones his age and he is almost as tall as they are. He has pretty much caught up. I appreciate your and other folks on here thoughts and concerns during that time. I know your prayers made a difference.

I look forward to getting through November so that we can put this FR rift (FRift?) behind us. I am just not sure how many of us will be left by then.

150 posted on 04/30/2012 1:56:25 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (I <3 PEJSWDTDSOPC)
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