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Voting for Romney (D-Mass.): The Worst Mistake a Conservative Could Make
Country Thinker ^ | april 7, 2012 | Ted Lacksonen

Posted on 04/30/2012 9:14:40 AM PDT by Mozilla

Why am I so pas­sion­ate today? Well, most read­ers who visit here know the coun­try is in deep doo-​​doo. I’m here to tell you that vot­ing for Mitt Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) will not change that fact and may make things worse. I will explain two things. First, Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) is the pre­sump­tive Repub­li­can nom­i­nee pre­cisely because he will do noth­ing to improve our country’s for­tunes. He is the cho­sen one because he will main­tain the sta­tus quo. That is what the GOP machine has cho­sen him to do.

Sec­ond, you can­not “take over” the Repub­li­can machine and turn it into some­thing in decent. I have made that state­ment before, but I’m going to describe the machine in greater detail. Keep in mind that this is infor­ma­tion I have obtained from cur­rent and for­mer GOP insid­ers. Every­one on the inside agrees that the Party has been con­structed so it can­not be taken over. They have also con­structed a polit­i­cal sys­tem so the polit­i­cal duop­oly is very, very dif­fi­cult to chal­lenge. (Repub­li­can insid­ers HATE polit­i­cal free­dom, like so many other free­doms.) Whether that’s a good thing or bad thing is a mat­ter of judg­ment. For con­ser­v­a­tives and lib­er­tar­i­ans it’s bad. For estab­lish­men­tar­i­ans it’s wonderful.

Finally I will explain why vot­ing for Rom­ney (D-​​Mass.) is the worst thing you can do, regard­less of whether you’re a “prin­ci­pals” voter or a “strate­gic” voter.

If you are not one hun­dred per­cent con­vinced that I am cor­rect in those state­ments, you absolutely must read the rest of this piece and tell me where I’m wrong. I know I’m cor­rect, and I can assure you that if you vote for Rom­ney (D-Mass.) it will be the great­est polit­i­cal regret of your life.

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KEYWORDS: election; rino2012; romney; votefor
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To: Mozilla

Mr Lacksonen certainly wrote a *long* article on Saturday, April 7. I won’t argue with anything he wrote about our Republican Party or Mitt Romney: some things deserve some argument, but I just don’t feel the need. “The Democrat(ic) party isn’t quite as bad?” The Party that hasn’t offered a budget for almost eleven hundred days isn’t as bad as the one that has offered thirty-odd good bills including at least three tentative-to-fairly polished budgets? The Dems are ripe for another shellacking this year, unless Ted manages to talk, say, a quarter of conservatives to vote for B Hussein and the slate under him. Ted, do you *want* another four years of B Hussein? I don’t! ABO!

81 posted on 04/30/2012 11:02:38 AM PDT by Grampa3711 (Some people bring happiness wherever they go; others, whenever.)
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So they, like all dupes will pull the lever for Romney and erroneously think they are saving the country - because that’s the narrative the Ruling Class has established.
Look how eagerly they lap it up, all out of fear of Obama.

Well said!

82 posted on 04/30/2012 11:04:17 AM PDT by greyfoxx39 (The epitome of stupidity is a member of a proven racist sect running against a black man.)
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To: so_real
Where do these clowns come from, who believe America can survive as we know it after replacing Obama with Obama-lite

Because Obama-lite is "white". He won't have the race card pass.

83 posted on 04/30/2012 11:04:56 AM PDT by jersey117
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A lot of freepers are disappointing me. I agree with you.
84 posted on 04/30/2012 11:05:32 AM PDT by hotsteppa
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To: Marguerite
"Obviously, you can spit or don’t have any principle to defend."

Principle I got ... I jus' don' got no principled candidate.

The generic opinion of Romney is; He's a business man and can bring prosperity/wealth back to America.

I'm suspicious as to HOW he might do this, but I feel confident he CAN.

Look, I don't like him any more than the next guy, and I vascilated a little in the beginning, but I really warmed to Newt when I thought he could outrun Romney. Imagine my surprise when all he could do was 10% ... THAT was a shocker to me.

85 posted on 04/30/2012 11:07:05 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: jersey117

Because Obama-lite is "white". He won't have the race card pass.

Romney did not need the race card to advance the liberal / socialist agenda in his home state :
Most of Governor Romney’s judicial appointees were not conservative. The Boston Globe’s July 2005 “review … of Romney's judicial picks detected no philosophical or partisan pattern.” He “passed over GOP lawyers for three-quarters of the 36 judicial vacancies he has faced [as of July 2005], instead tapping registered Democrats or independents including two gay lawyers who have supported expanded same-sex rights.”

Elect him at your peril and watch him do the same thing to the Supreme Court.

86 posted on 04/30/2012 11:11:53 AM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: jersey117
With all due respect, I think your line of reasoning is dead false. In 2008 we didn't have the foresight to know the extent to which obama would push the envelope and trample the Constitution.

That's abject crap. YES WE DID. Some of us were paying attention and crying aloud a warning. Some of us READ his "autobiographies" (aka Mein Kampf), his associations with known Communist/Marxist radicals, his WBBM radio interview from 2001.

Don't hand us crap for an argument that we need to vote for Romney because no one had the foresight to know how badly he would trash the Constitution.

The fact was and is again today: not enough give a rat's ass about the Constitution, they want hand-outs and the government to fix the problems.

When enough people make government their god, then government becomes god. And for Romney and the Ruling Class, they want the government to be god as much as Obama's Armies do. They simply want their share of the pie and power.

I made the grave mistake of checking my principles at the door to vote for expedience in 2008 as a check against Obama.

I won't ever make that mistake again. The GOP is dead AFAIC. May it rest in peace next to the Whigs.

87 posted on 04/30/2012 11:13:52 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: wiggen
I’m all in for a 3rd party after this election. There’s simply no time now to mount a serious challenge. I simply don’t believe i have the luxury to cast a protest vote.

Are you sure the time will be right then? If Romney wins, I suspect that a lot of people will be saying that it sucks to have to vote for a Romney second term but it is better than Hillary (or whoever the boogy man of 2016 is). They will again being repeating mantra: "Now's no time for a third-party, let's wait until the next election."

If you wait until the time is perfect to exercise your principles, you never will. If you sell out and vote for a 100%, dyed-in-the-wool model of RINOism this time, imagine how easy it will be to vote for an 90% RINO in the future.

88 posted on 04/30/2012 11:15:15 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Obama vs. Romney - clear evidence that our nation has been judged by God and found wanting.)
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To: True Grit
What the hell are you smoking ???

Probably not Hopium.

89 posted on 04/30/2012 11:15:15 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: so_real
You are basing your decision on Romney's past. We already know Romney is "flexible" - to say the least. This will work in our favor when it comes to holding his feet to the fire.

I am basing my decision on obama's present and my grandkids future.

90 posted on 04/30/2012 11:17:10 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: bossmechanic; TexasCajun; ladymac; luvbach1; Lou L; wiggen; fish hawk; Mr. Lucky; Ge0ffrey; ...
There is nothing worse than Obumo— period. Nothing.

Oh sure there is.


Not this election.

But just wait.

Some future election.

Where we have the kids & grandkids of pro-Romney FR supporters like TexasCajun; ladymac; luvbach1; Lou L; Wiggen; fish hawk; Mr. Lucky; Ge0frrey; G Larry; Dawebman; tnlibertarian; vikingd00d; knarf; and others in this thread (or others who will come on posting)....

In that future election, there'll be some (r) candidate to the left of Obama runnin' for POTUS...

And because we can ALWAYS count on the (D) candidate being worse, the next-generation(s) relativists of the current FR relativistic cabal will be verbally harassing [some mild, some not] the remnant conservatives for not-voting for the guy/gal-to-the-left-of-Obama as a "better" "lesser of two evils'" "choice."

You buy into political get the eternal fruits of it...and a "wonderful" legacy passed on to future generations...

With this kind of active spirit among so-called "conservatives," makes you wonder why the Founding Fathers of this country simply just wouldn't go along with taxation-without representation (& other issues) from the Brits...

Sad. So many FREEPERs today are capitulators & compromisers who bear absolutely NO resemblance to the Founding Fathers' rebellion-is-brewing spirit.

Hence, their need where they have to convert the rest of us. Why? Because we're living reminders to their relativistic conscience that they are searing their conscience with this "waterloo" type of political crossover.

91 posted on 04/30/2012 11:21:59 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian

Excellently stated and seconded!


92 posted on 04/30/2012 11:23:56 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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I was referring to your reasoning for voting GOP-e for McCain. You said never again. McCain is not obama. I am arguing that you now know EXACTLY what obama is capable of yet you are using the ‘08 example for your decision 4 years later.

93 posted on 04/30/2012 11:24:32 AM PDT by jersey117
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“And in typical alinsky style, you spittled forth but did not answer the questions. I think you’re a leftist shill, sweetums.”

And if you aren’t a shill buddie, I can tell ya, you are no credit to your candidate.
I don’t really want dillusionals like you in a place of power.

94 posted on 04/30/2012 11:26:07 AM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: stuartcr

Me? I will vote survival. Building for tomorrow? Educate yourself as to the myriad parties across the nation. Which will fit together. Lets not forget the most important thing when starting a new movement. The leaders cannot be opportunists. They cannot be the same old same old. There may be people in here capable of at least starting the movement in the right direction. Certainly there are those experienced in at least some of the issues needed to be tackled. (Me,i have no idea but i am willing to work in whatever way i can.)
I suggested some of the already existing minor parties but keep in mind they have people in them already who may desire power as much as a main stream politician.
Leaders. We need Leaders.

95 posted on 04/30/2012 11:27:52 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: TexasCajun; Mozilla; ladymac; luvbach1; Lou L; wiggen; fish hawk; Mr. Lucky; G Larry; Dawebman; ...
Four more years of Obamah would be just peachy keen! Are you nuts?????

I s'pose, Mozilla, that the relativists among us consistently preach a distinct headline to us that they better recognize:
Voting for Romney:
The Better 'Evil' [as in a supposed 'lesser thereof']
Risk-take Ex-Conservatives-now-RINO-Romneybots Could Make

Hence...their 'new' 'conservative' confession...
Yes, voting for Romney is 'evil'
Yes, Romney is RINO
Yes, Romney is a big-govt socialistic healthcare pioneer
Yes, Romney has a 14-year wreckless baby-dismembering pro-abort track record from 1994 all the way thru 2007...
Yes, Romney portends to whackily become a full-grown god...
But, hey, at least that evil RINO big-govt socialistic healthcare pioneer pro-abort god has an (R) next to all those adjectives!

[Reminds me of that one 19th century politician...his name temporarily escapes me...who was at least satisfied upon learning that it was "our" rascal vs. the "rascal" of the other party on a given issue]

96 posted on 04/30/2012 11:28:02 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: greyfoxx39
He believes just what is going on in this thread, that he doesn't have to do anything except be the "Not Obama".

That's exactly what the people are promoting calling for Romney's campaign donations. I listened to the guys Scripted hype...and he was fear mongering all about keeping Obama from winning. Not 'One' thing said about Romneys policies! was all about stopping Obama....and that with his voice two octives higher than normal!

97 posted on 04/30/2012 11:28:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Guess what — if you’re not getting your perfect conservative candidate in 2012, you sure as hell aren’t going to get them in 2016.

98 posted on 04/30/2012 11:31:18 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: jersey117

I’m not asking for perfect, mediocre will do just fine.

99 posted on 04/30/2012 11:32:06 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: Colofornian
So, go hold your breath until you get your way. Take your ball and go home. I don't give a rat's patootie. Just, don't pretend to be a Revolutionary War patriot because you're pouting over the winner of the Republican nomination.
100 posted on 04/30/2012 11:34:47 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (I <3 PEJSWDTDSOPC)
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