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I thought the outside world was paradise, says the only North Korean to escape from prison camp
thisislondon.co.uk ^ | 04/30/12 | Tamara Hinson

Posted on 04/30/2012 9:38:39 AM PDT by DFG

Shin Dong-huyk is 29 years old. He loves Mexican food and going to baseball games. But any similarities between Shin and other young men ends there. Shin Dong-huyk is the only person known to have escaped from a North Korean prison camp. He was born into a life of enslavement and torture inside Camp 14, where he was starved, beaten and forced to watch the executions of his mother and brother.

He existed within the camp’s concrete walls, which had no running water or furniture, until aged 23, he escaped. He spent one month on the run before sneaking over the border into China, and eventually reaching the safety of the South Korean embassy.

Last month, a book about his life — Escape from Camp 14 — was published, taking its place at the top of the bestseller lists. I met him in London as he prepared to speak at a House of Commons meeting to raise awareness about North Korean prisoners.

(Excerpt) Read more at thisislondon.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 04/30/2012 9:38:52 AM PDT by DFG
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To: DFG

God bless him!


2 posted on 04/30/2012 9:44:29 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
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To: DFG

BFL


3 posted on 04/30/2012 9:52:08 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: DFG

And Enviro-Whackos, like Algore’s useful idiots think North Korea is paradise.


4 posted on 04/30/2012 9:54:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: DFG; TigerLikesRooster

North Korea - the hellhole of the Universe.

ping


5 posted on 04/30/2012 9:57:09 AM PDT by GOPJ ("Zimmered": To make a crime victim a criminal so racists can make money. freeper GrandJediMasterYoda)
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To: DFG

People need to understand a little more about what goes on when government controls every aspect of life. This needs to be shared.


6 posted on 04/30/2012 9:59:52 AM PDT by Baynative (Please check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFIcZkEzc8I)
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To: RexBeach

“God bless him!”

I’m not sure that you read the article, he was responsible for his mother’s and brothers death. He seems to feel no remorse about it, it’s all just about him. Granted, the North Koreans turned him into what he is but I see no reason to celebrate. A sad story all around, I do wish someone would put a bullet into the heads of the family running North Korea and have no doubt that will come sooner or later.


7 posted on 04/30/2012 10:00:16 AM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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To: DFG

A little bit of socialism is a little bit of evil, and a lot of socialism is a lot of evil.


8 posted on 04/30/2012 10:00:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: DFG
This guy's story's is completely unimportant.
Conceived and born in a prison camp to be slave of the state --
Nah that doesn't count.

Only the "Trayvon" Martin case matters!
That's real "discrimination".
And don't forget the important things Kim Kardashian is doing too. And then there's that fount of wisdom and knowledge on MSNBC -- Al Sharpton. Now he's really got some pithy stories to relate to America.
9 posted on 04/30/2012 10:04:55 AM PDT by StormEye
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To: Baynative

Things like this go on in China and in some measure, Cuba.

But, we’re worried about Sandra Fluck.


10 posted on 04/30/2012 10:07:14 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: DFG
Escape from Camp 14

Who bought the Movie Rights?

11 posted on 04/30/2012 10:07:39 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: DFG

Brian lamb interviewed the author yesterday on Book TV. Absolutely fascinating. I don’t think I’m giving anything away here but .... a man who had been born inside a N. Korean concentration camp with no hope of EVER leaving and not knowing there was even a world outside until he met another inmate who told him about Seoul, America, Europe, etc. But having no reference to what that meant was moved to escape by the descriptions of Food: Chicken, pork, beef could be had easily in China instead of the cabbage soup with corn and occasional field mouse or rat he had always had. That is what moved him to risk his life.

There is more — much more.


12 posted on 04/30/2012 10:08:04 AM PDT by bunster
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To: DFG

This brave young man’s experience seems to mirror that of Kang Chol-Hwan, author of ‘The Aquariums of Pyongyang’. After former President George W. Bush read his book, he invited Kang Chol-Hwan to visit with him in the White House, where they spent over half an hour (a substantial time considering how busy the President is) discussing the plight of the North Korean people and what could be done to help them.

After their meeting in June 2005, and after the on-again, off-again ‘Six Party Talks’ (which GWB was convinced would lead to an agreement with North Korea to end their nuclear program), Bush finally figured out in late 2008 that the best way he could help the North Korean people was to sell them up the river, by taking North Korea OFF the list of terrorist supporting nations maintained by the State Department, which was no doubt appreciated by the late Dear Leader Kim Jong Il.

What did the North Korean people get for such a grandiose act of appeasement?

The same thing the rest of the world received from Pyongyang, i.e., ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.


13 posted on 04/30/2012 10:08:09 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: dfwgator
This is why the enviro-mental whackos love North Korea.

I wish Al Gore and his band of fairy unbathed would check-in for a stay at Camp 14 for a couple of months and then come back an witness to the world their view of N. Korea.

14 posted on 04/30/2012 10:08:57 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (Liberty and Justice for ALL)
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To: trapped_in_LA
I’m not sure that you read the article, he was responsible for his mother’s and brothers death. He seems to feel no remorse about it, it’s all just about him.

He felt no remorse as a 14 year old, indoctrinated into believing that what he did was right. Currently he is wracked with the guilt of having his mother and brother murdered. Considering that they cut off some of his fingers and drove a hook through his stomach and hung him over a fire, I would give him some slack.

15 posted on 04/30/2012 10:09:10 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013 The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: DFG
There’s an error in the 11th paragraph of the article; if Park was “electrocuted”, he would be dead (“electrocute” being a portmanteau of “electro-” and “execute”). Right thing to say is that Park was shocked by the electric fence when escaping.

JMHO, but the worst Korean War blunder was firing MacArthur; we were already fighting the Chinese, and there is a disturbing parallel to how we were fighting the Iranians in Iraq and the liberal media tried to cover that up. The Kim dynasty should have been crushed in 1951 at the very latest, and the fact that this was one of the first miserable military failures of the UN should have been a warning for the future. (Never mind defining MacArthur going against the POTUS as a Constitutional violation; there’s a reason why The Art Of War says “If fighting is sure to result in victory, then you must fight even if the ruler forbid it”.)
16 posted on 04/30/2012 10:09:33 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: trapped_in_LA
He's not without remorse and guilt.

When I was hospitalised in South Korea with psychiatric problems I considered suicide once or twice. But I thought about how I’d escaped and been through such difficult times, and decided I should live on.” This mental illness was due to the new-found guilt he felt over his mother and brother. “That guilt will last until my death,” he adds.

17 posted on 04/30/2012 10:12:38 AM PDT by pgkdan (Rick Santorum 2012. Conservative's last, best chance!)
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To: trapped_in_LA
He seems to feel no remorse about it, it’s all just about him.

I've read some of his other interviews, and he does feel remorse now, but not in the same way. He didn't love his family, he spent little time with them, and in fact he had only met his brother a couple of times before the night of his betrayal.

Can you image growing up where, as a young child of 3 or 4, you are completely taken away from your family and raised in a barracks? Where there is no familial love allowed or shown?

He had no remorse because he had no connection to them.

18 posted on 04/30/2012 10:14:13 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Olog-hai
There’s an error in the 11th paragraph of the article; if Park was “electrocuted”, he would be dead

Park died. The escapee is Shin.

19 posted on 04/30/2012 10:18:15 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: trapped_in_LA

I read the article. He has remorse now. The guilt of it almost drove him to suicide and he says it will haunt him for the rest of his life.

If you’re born into slavery, torture and brainwashing, what other point of view do you have?


20 posted on 04/30/2012 10:18:38 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Whoops. I stand corrected.


21 posted on 04/30/2012 10:18:55 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Park was Shin’s friend, and he did die.


22 posted on 04/30/2012 10:18:55 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Olog-hai

Park was eltrocuted and died. His body lay on the wires separating them enough for Shin to crawl through.


23 posted on 04/30/2012 10:23:34 AM PDT by bunster
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To: Don Corleone
Escape from Camp 14 - Who bought the Movie Rights?
I read the book and wasn't impressed. The author's style throughout was short and choppy and the story itself was pretty boring.
"The Long Walk" by Slavomir Rawicz and "As Far as My Feet Will Carry Me" by Josef M. Bauer are much better reads.
24 posted on 04/30/2012 10:25:39 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DFG

Camp 14 - it’s the 0bamunist dream. They’re so close they can almost taste it.


25 posted on 04/30/2012 10:29:16 AM PDT by Noumenon ("I tell you, gentlemen, we have a problem on our hands." Col. Nicholson-The Bridge on the River Qwai)
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To: Slings and Arrows; bunster

Yup; didn’t catch my misread in time. Thanks.


26 posted on 04/30/2012 10:30:24 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

De nada.


27 posted on 04/30/2012 10:33:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: trapped_in_LA

I think it is reason to celebrate that he escaped, and will have a chance for a somewhat normal life, and that he is able to share his story to give the rest of us some idea as to what goes on there, the levels to which a modern-day society can sink, etc.


28 posted on 04/30/2012 10:35:34 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: oh8eleven
Haven't read the book either, but I'm mighty impresssed with his story if not his writing style. He should get a different pulisher and try again with a competent translator/ co-author.

Here's another fleeing-Communist-hell book: Donbas: A True Story of an Escape Across Russia by Jacques Sandulescu. Disturbing, but you'll be thinking about it a long time.

29 posted on 04/30/2012 10:41:39 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Evidence, and reasonable inference from evidence.)
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To: oh8eleven
I read the book and wasn't impressed. The author's style throughout was short and choppy and the story itself was pretty boring.

Yes, you're right. The slave camps of North Korea are known to be superb schools for literary technique. It's disappointing in the extreme that someone who was raised amidst torture, starvation, and unspeakable cruelty wouldn't have found the time to hone his writing style to an acceptable level of polish and sophistication. The fact that he isn't even a native English speaker is no excuse. And the important thing about the book is the style and the excitement it delivers, not the truth it reveals. Why don't you write to the guy and tell him he doesn't know how to write a book?

30 posted on 04/30/2012 10:48:16 AM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: bunster
not knowing there was even a world outside until he met another inmate who told him about Seoul, America, Europe

While the unimprisoned citizens of NK are probably aware of the rest of the world, they certainly have no idea of what actually lies out here. State run TV is all they see and hear.

31 posted on 04/30/2012 10:49:27 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (My 6 pack abs are now a full keg......)
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To: mkjessup

“This brave young man’s experience seems to mirror that of Kang Chol-Hwan, author of ‘The Aquariums of Pyongyang’”

I read that book. As I recall, Kang’s family lived in Japan and his grandmother was a dedicated communist. It was she that lead the family to move to north Korea, thinking she was leading them to paradise. It wasn’t long after their arrival that the family were all put away into a concentration camp. At first the grandmother thought that this was some sort of mistake that would soon be rectified. It took a couple years of imprisonment in the camp before she finally became disillusioned with communism. Afterwards she was racked with guilt for being the one primarily responsible for where her family was.


32 posted on 04/30/2012 10:59:04 AM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: DFG

“....to raise awareness about North Korean prisoners.”

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He will be talking to a brick wall.


33 posted on 04/30/2012 11:04:32 AM PDT by 353FMG
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To: FreeAtlanta

“I wish Al Gore and his band of fairy unbathed would check-in for a stay at Camp 14 for a couple of months and then come back an witness to the world their view of N. Korea.”

Your comment reminds me of Angela Davis. She defected to Cuba. Castro put her to work in the sugar cane fields chopping sugar cane.

She lasted three months then came back here crying that her “teaching ability” here best-served her cause.


34 posted on 04/30/2012 11:18:55 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise
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To: ottbmare
Why don't you write to the guy and tell him he doesn't know how to write a book?
Because he didn't write it, Blaine Harden did.
But hey, thanks for playing - loser.
35 posted on 04/30/2012 11:25:01 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven

re: “....doesn’t know how to write a book”

I agree with you — Harden has his credentials as NYtimes/WashPost correspondent Maybe this fellow is looking more for a former fiction writer’s style. Who knows.

Anyway Shin didn’t/doesn’t speak a lick of English — the interviews with Harddin took place over 7 meetings (some week long full days) with Shin’s best friend as the interpreter. There is a couple in Ohio who played a big part in this — I want to find out more about them too. Good people.


36 posted on 04/30/2012 11:33:14 AM PDT by bunster
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To: DFG

Sooo if the former govenor of New Mexico Richardson gets indicted for a long list of illegalities he can always rely on his buds in Nork land to give him asylum.


37 posted on 04/30/2012 11:39:19 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) Hey Mitt, F-you too pal)
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To: DFG

And they keep telling us you can’t build a fence. Who knew?


38 posted on 04/30/2012 11:44:57 AM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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To: Skooz

Over all a pretty good article, brainwashing is very effective when used on the young. And that scares the hell out of when I see what in happening in our public school systems.

I noted the author of this piece got NK and SK reversed a couple times.


39 posted on 04/30/2012 11:48:06 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Nations are only truly great when it's people are struggling against all odds, growing and expanding)
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To: trapped_in_LA

-—I’m not sure that you read the article, he was responsible for his mother’s and brothers death. He seems to feel no remorse about it, it’s all just about him.-—

He was subjected to incomprehensible brainwashing from birth.

He now says that he will carry guilt for their deaths until he dies.

I hope he finds Jesus before then.

God help him and the other North Korean prisoners.


40 posted on 04/30/2012 12:03:29 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Viva Christo Rey!)
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To: bunster
It's a wonderful human story despite (IMO) how it was written.
The question that popped up in my head the entire time I read the book - WTH is the UN?
And the UN Human Rights Council has the gall to question the US for violations?
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
41 posted on 04/30/2012 12:04:06 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: DFG; All

You can read a few chapters in the book dept on amazon for free. It’s interesting.


42 posted on 04/30/2012 12:12:51 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: Olog-hai

“...and there is a disturbing parallel to how we were fighting the Iranians in Iraq.”

It wasn’t too disturbing to the 3rd AD, lolz.


43 posted on 04/30/2012 12:17:19 PM PDT by Justa
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To: oh8eleven

Another little tidbit I’ll throw in here from the Lamb/Hardin interview is that Hardin said the profits from the book will be split 50/50 as this fellow has really no money (of course) and it is His Story. Sounds good to me. Wonder if the Pulitzer will be 50/50? Oh, I forgot (smile) — the guy can’t write - no Pulitzer for you Hardin!!

I had said earlier that the interview was on Book TV — now I remember it was on CSPAN but on a show called “Q&A”. So much was revealed that I thought about this all night long. Watch for Q&A it’s bound to repeat or be on BookTV.

D


44 posted on 04/30/2012 1:02:55 PM PDT by bunster
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To: oh8eleven

I reiterate, there are things that are far more important in making a book valuable than a smooth writing style. That’s a surface consideration, and most of the great books of history aren’t easy popular reads. In this case, the critical point is that the information about North Korean camps gets out to the public, all over the world.


45 posted on 04/30/2012 1:10:17 PM PDT by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: trapped_in_LA
he was responsible for his mother’s and brothers death. He seems to feel no remorse about iy

I saw an interview or something when he first spoke. You can easily tell there was deep brainwashing on the guy. He wouldn't "feel" normal reactions to anything we might normally react to. One becomes "conditioned" over time and this guy was born in the camp. That was the hell hole life he knew.

Not usrprisingly he had mental issues to contend with....disoriented hardly says enough after being in such a depraved environment. Can you even imagine the "norm" of eating your own vomit to stay alive.....years on end...and then seeing food thrown out just beyond your borders let alone the banquet throughout. I cannot imagine the questions and absolute shock coming from a camp to freedom. If I recall hementioned seeing N.Korea people walking about and thought they were living in abundance!

46 posted on 04/30/2012 1:11:36 PM PDT by caww
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To: oh8eleven

N.Korea is caught between China’s Political desires to keep them as a buffer Zone and the fact of how do you bring people caught in the 50’s mentality into a modern world....let alone the brainwashing they’ve ben under for eons concerning their “Dear Leader” who has a nuclear bomb.

You can’t just go in there and free a backward and mentally handicapped people who are basically starving. Every border would be breached and thousands would run from the country. China will not allow that....and even the N.Koreans know it would tax their entire system.

So the situation isn’t as simple as it might have been eons ago. There are a gazillion problems about N.Korea....and the fact the people would fight any who tried to come in....they are not going to co-operate willingly.


47 posted on 04/30/2012 1:19:51 PM PDT by caww
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To: trapped_in_LA

If you believe that these obama worshiping, obama voting, to use the term very loosely “young people” over here will have any more regrets or remorse about killing their parents when the time comes for them to do that than he did, you are only fooling yourself.


48 posted on 04/30/2012 1:21:53 PM PDT by sport
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To: ottbmare

You might want to read the entire article before you post.


49 posted on 04/30/2012 1:23:26 PM PDT by Mears (Alcohol. Tobacco. Firearms. What's not to like?)
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To: bunster
the guy can’t write - no Pulitzer for you Hardin!!
""You'd better not screw up again, Hardin, because if you do ...
...I'll be all over you like a pitbull on a poodle."

50 posted on 04/30/2012 1:27:03 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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