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How Romney and Our Republic Can Win (Part 1)
Townhall.com ^ | May 1, 2012 | Chuck Norris

Posted on 05/01/2012 1:42:27 AM PDT by Kaslin

With President Barack Obama's officially starting his campaign this Saturday, many are wondering whether the GOP front-runner and former Massachusetts governor, Mitt Romney, has a real chance at winning the general election. But I know a way he could pull it off, and my wife, Gena, even dreamed about it.

I said that I would vote for whichever candidate won the GOP nomination. As of this writing, it appears to be Romney. Truthfully, I believe that Mitt has the skills and organization to defeat Obama and stop his fundamental transformation of America. We all know what four more years of increased socialistic decisions would do to our country.

By all reasonable rationale and political forecast, in a couple of months Romney will reach the necessary delegate count and become the Republican Party's official nominee. And before the GOP fractures with a third-party candidate (as it did in 1992 and 1996) and hands over the election again in doing so, I want to propose to Romney a way to rally the GOP base and even, I believe, those who dislike him.

Typically, this is the time when we all speculate about the GOP nominee's choice for vice president -- his running mate -- and we pray to God that his decision is so magnanimous that it instantly will rally the entire spectrum of political preferences at his side. Of course, that's a political pipe dream and, I believe, a shortsighted, typical campaign technique in a unique election war that requires a very unconventional strategy for winning. With existing polarities (indeed, divisiveness) in the GOP and conservative base alone, choosing the right VP is alone not going to be enough, inasmuch as a Super Bowl team couldn't rally its fan base based upon just a controversial quarterback and a great wide receiver.

For those optimistic statisticians who would point out that just last week a Fox News poll showed that the race between Obama and Romney is dead-even -- with 46 percent of society favoring each -- I would remind them that those numbers are equal despite four years of President Obama's reckless decisions against our republic and despite the fact that his re-election campaign hasn't even unleashed its billion-dollar war chest against Romney. (That sum makes Romney's effectual $20 million he used to destroy Newt Gingrich's candidacy back in the Florida primary look like chump change.)

If the Obama campaign machine and its mainstream media minions are already pigeon-holing Romney as "extreme" and "right-wing" (are you kidding?!), imagine what they will say and do to his likely more conservative running mate. (Does anyone remember the plight of Sarah Palin with Sen. John McCain in '08?)

I think Romney and maybe even most Republicans are underestimating the difficulty of persuading conservatives, evangelicals and libertarians, let alone the rest of the country, to vote for Romney, despite the prospect of the sultan of socialist swing's remaining in the Oval Office. General election apathy and depression in the fall could take their toll.

It doesn't take a political scientist to see that if liberals such as former President Jimmy Carter say they would be "comfortable" with Romney, conservatives, evangelicals, libertarians and others are going to have a gigantic struggle rallying around Romney. But if he would take the following course of action, they might find backing him much more palatable.

Enough talk. The idea is this, and it is not my idea but the action of President Abraham Lincoln.

A book that highlights Lincoln's brilliant action is titled "Team of Rivals: The Political Genius of Abraham Lincoln," by Doris Kearns Goodwin, a Pulitzer Prize-winning author and presidential historian. In addition to topping charts and receiving scholarly acclaim, the book itself is political genius and outlines the crucial strategy needed not only to rally the present GOP base but also to win the White House and save our republic. (I also wrote about this unifying strategy in a former column, "The 8th Miracle To Save America," which can be read at http://www.creators.com/opinion/chuck-norris/the-8th-miracle-to-save-america.html.)

Goodwin's prize-winning treatise details how Lincoln brought together his candidate rivals by appointing them to key positions in his administration when he became president.

Let me re-highlight a few critical points from Goodwin's book review in The New York Times:

"The party in the 1860's was a coalition of politicians who only a few years earlier had been Whigs (Lincoln, Seward, Bates), Democrats (Blair, Secretary of the Navy Gideon Welles and Vice President Hannibal Hamlin), Free Soilers (Chase), or had flirted with the short-lived anti-immigrant American Party, or Know Nothings (Cameron and Bates). In addition, several cabinet members personally disliked each other: Blair and Chase, Seward and Welles, Chase and Seward, Blair and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton, who replaced Cameron in January 1862. Lincoln's 'political genius' enabled him to herd these political cats and keep them driving toward ultimate victory.

"How did he do it? Goodwin deals with this question better than any other writer. Part of the answer lay in Lincoln's steadfastness of purpose, which inspired subordinates to overcome their petty rivalries. Part of it lay in his superb sense of timing and his sensitivity to the pulse of public opinion as he moved to bring along a divided people to the support of 'a new birth of freedom.' And part of it lay in Lincoln's ability to rise above personal slights, his talent for getting along with men of clashing ideologies and personalities who could not get along with each other."

Whether you agree with Lincoln or not, his team of rivals worked, propelled his leadership and ultimately unified the country.

Isn't our divided country again ripe for a new "team of rivals," made up of past presidential candidates and other vetted, qualified and esteemed national leaders, rather than merely a dynamic duo fighting the Obama campaign machine?

Lincoln recognized the wisdom of Jesus when it came to collective success: "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

The question is this: Will Romney?

Next week, I will not only elaborate more on this concept of a team of rivals and the people I believe should be a part of it but also share the inspiring dream Gena had, which we both hope comes true.


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1 posted on 05/01/2012 1:42:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Definitely a pipe dream and nothing but political expedience to woo a base that will not vote for the most liberal/leftist candidate it can possibly run against a Marxist.

Romney and the GOP-e spent so much effort and money to assassinate and destroy Conservatives in order to marginalize them out of any influence in politics, why in the hell would anyone fall for a political trick to attempt unifying the base by appointing Conservatives (whom Romney and the Ruling Class loathes)to cabinet positions?

Romney’s M.O. along with the Ruling Class would rather be to appoint Marxist Democrats as a ‘unifying factor’ in a Romney government, something we Conservatives already recognize as the way they are playing this game anyway.

Romney is Obama’s chosen candidate to run against. I’m not stupid enough to try insanity again and do what failed in 2008. I’m thinking and voting outside the box from now on, and working to convince as many others that I know to do the same.

At least we can stand before the Lord when held to account in That Day.


2 posted on 05/01/2012 1:58:14 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kaslin

The question I have is will the upcoming OWS “May Day” parades of protesters in a number of large American cities end up throwing the election over to Romney by “default” ?


3 posted on 05/01/2012 2:07:06 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Kaslin
I would prefer someone else too.
I will walk barefoot over broken glass to vote against ZERO.
We can not allow him another 4. We have 4 SC Justices that could retire in 4 years. No way we can allow ZERO to pick them. NO WAY.
4 posted on 05/01/2012 2:27:02 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968- I have now gone pecan.)
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To: Voter#537

This great nation will be gone forever, if we do


5 posted on 05/01/2012 2:30:10 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

You really do not have a choice. Willard Mitt Romney’s father, George Romney, was an admirer of Saul Alinsky, the same radical responsible for the training of such radicals as Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Hussein Obama II. Their strategy was to stack the deck so that Republicans and conservatives would have no viable candidate to vote for except a Saul Alinsky brand of socialist-communist supporter. Your only remote chance of upsetting the scheme is to very promptly bring about the legal removal of the Obama Admistration from office on the basis of ineligibility and/or criminal violations of law and the Constitution. The elections have already been compromised by vote fraud and election rigging.


6 posted on 05/01/2012 2:42:43 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Kaslin
It doesn't take a political scientist to see that if liberals such as former President Jimmy Carter say they would be "comfortable" with Romney, conservatives, evangelicals, libertarians and others are going to have a gigantic struggle rallying around Romney.

____________________________________________________________ The best assessment of the 2012 Presidential election that I have seen yet. Romney, with his ceiling of 27% of the Republican base, is going to have a hell of a hard time attracting Conservatives, evangelicals, libertarians, pro-life voters, Tea Party members, Christians especially Catholics, Latinos, women, men, NRA members, veterans, Active duty military and their families, and dog lovers. Many, or most of the above listed groups, will stay home in droves. Romney needs a great many Independents as well as democrats to overcome his deficiencies in his Republican/ Conservative base.

7 posted on 05/01/2012 2:44:14 AM PDT by matthew fuller (Mitt Romney is the supreme exemplification of the word SMARMY.)
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To: INVAR
Romney is Obama’s chosen candidate to run against.
On April 10, 2012, when Rick Santorum quit his campaign, 6 million votes had been cast for Gingrich+Santorum. 5 million votes had been cast for Romney.

6 million conservative votes.

5 million Romney votes.

6 million > 5 million

We could have easily beat Romney, if we had only united.

WE chose to split our vote. Romney didn't make us do it. Obama didn't make us do it.

WE took our 6-million-vote majority and flushed it down the toilet.

You can call the waaaaaaambulance if you want... or you can look at the reality of the situation.

8 posted on 05/01/2012 2:49:13 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: samtheman
It's really not that simple. I was a delegate to one of the conventions. There were more delegates at the convention than any of the older participants recall ever seeing at one of these caucuses. Some guessed the number was triple the typical number of delegates. The reason for the increased attendance was at first assumed to be due to the state's change in election rules and the increased concern about this election. While those were factors, it also soon became obvious that a great percentage of the Romney delegates were in fact people who admitted to having been former Democrats in previous years and Obama in the last election. In other words, the Democrats rigged the election by sending their followers to vote as Republicans in the Republican primaries for the purpose of selecting Romney as the Republican candidate.
9 posted on 05/01/2012 3:02:35 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Look, the fact remains, WhiskeyX, that it would have been quite simple for us to have remain united.

Here’s how: we take the results of the FIRST BIG CONSERVATIVE VOTE, and HONOR THAT RESULT.

UNITE WITH THAT RESULT.

(Sorry for the all-caps but I feel very strongly about this, and feel that it’s so obvious that it shouldn’t even have to be said, and also feel that we conservatives missed this simple and obvious truth.)

You take the results of South Carolina and you UNITE WITH THEM.

YOU DON’T FLUSH THE FIRST BIG CONSERVATIVE VOTE DOWN THE TOILET, the way we did in Florida.

We all, all, each and every one of us, should have said FU RICK SANTORUM, GO AWAY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO DIVIDE OUR VOTE and stuck with the winner of South Carolina through the rest of the process.

And you know what, Gingrich would EASILY be our candidate right now, not Romney.

But you know what? I bet a lot of “conservatives” would be waaaaaamublancing about THAT right now, too.

And THAT, my good friend, is the REAL problem... not the moderates and liberals in our midst.

The problem isn’t in our liberals, it’s in our selves.


10 posted on 05/01/2012 3:12:41 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: samtheman

Actually, if you were astute enough to notice, it was the Romney camp, along with the Ruling Class, the Mainstream Propagana Machine AND the Obama regime whom assassinated every Conservative running, infiltrating forums and creating a circular firing squad with the unwitting help of the Ron Paul Mob Zombies.

Having lived in Cook County - and having served as a precinct captain there, this is machine politics now on a NATIONAL level. So while you may want us to blame ourselves, (and there is some responsibility there) the raw truth is that this whole cycle has been rigged and Alinskyited to suit the Ruling Class AND Obama.

The Media chose Romney as the ONLY one to beat Obama when this primary cycle began. Tell a lie often enough, it soon gets accepted as the truth. And oh boy are there a ton of folks who bought into the media spin. Then have Obama’s machine put out talking points that they are more ‘concerned’ about a Romney nominee than any of the others, the simpletons buy into the propaganda being spoon fed them by both the media AND the Ruling Class machine for Romney.

I’ve seen this done in Chi-town aplenty.

You folks have no clue how badly we have all been played.

The only way to survive this, is not to play their game any longer by their rules.

Those of you wanting to vote for the Ruling Class candidate orchestrated for you, are playing into a trap.


11 posted on 05/01/2012 3:13:26 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: INVAR; Kaslin

I stand by what I said in #10: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2878440/posts?page=10#10

They had 5 million votes. We had 6 million votes.

Spin it any way you want, my friend, we could have won, instead WE handed it to THEM on a SILVER PLATTER.


12 posted on 05/01/2012 3:15:12 AM PDT by samtheman ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ-4gnNz0vc)
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To: WhiskeyX
It's really not that simple. I was a delegate to one of the conventions. There were more delegates at the convention than any of the older participants recall ever seeing at one of these caucuses. Some guessed the number was triple the typical number of delegates. The reason for the increased attendance was at first assumed to be due to the state's change in election rules and the increased concern about this election. While those were factors, it also soon became obvious that a great percentage of the Romney delegates were in fact people who admitted to having been former Democrats in previous years and Obama in the last election. In other words, the Democrats rigged the election by sending their followers to vote as Republicans in the Republican primaries for the purpose of selecting Romney as the Republican candidate.

You can add this to the evidence mentioned in my last post about this whole thing being machined and orchestrated.

We're morons willing to commit seppuku to buy into the 'only choice' served to us by our enemies. It's time to think like our patriarch's did and recognize that prostrating ourselves before parliament and the king and playing by their imposed rules is over.

13 posted on 05/01/2012 3:19:24 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kaslin

Romney cannot win, nor will Team Romney let
America win.

Romney destroyed Gov. Palin in 2008 for Obama
through surrogates.

Now Romney destroyed EVERY SINGLE conservative
through surrogates.

NOT GONNA VOTE FOR BISHOP BACKSTABBERER
(a.k.a. “Etch-a-Sketch”).


14 posted on 05/01/2012 3:23:19 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Kaslin
It's McCain all over again—only this time we know what happens when people won't bite the bullet and vote for the GOP nominee—we got Obama.

Now those who won't vote for this years GOP nominee will get us Obama again—only this time an unrestrained by reelection concerns anti-American Communist Obama hell bent on destroying our nation once and for all.

High price for pride and petulance.

15 posted on 05/01/2012 3:33:13 AM PDT by Happy Rain ("So the RINOs won with Romney--u gonna root for the Commies now!?!?")
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To: samtheman

The voters in the straw poll of my precinct gave 15 votes to Gingrich, 9 votes to Romney, 5 votes to Santorum, and 4 votes to Paul. Yet the delegates sent on to the convention were four delegates for Romney, 1 delegate for Paul, and 1 delegate for Gingrich. Actually, there were no delegates sent for Gingrich, because I was relegated to being alternate delegate and later changed to a delegate by the time of the convention. I voted for Gingrich, but was overwhelmingly eliminated at the convention by the Romney deleagtes most of whom were RINOs and Democrats pretending to be Republicans. The voters of our precinct who voted overwhelmingly for Gingrich were systematically eliminated from representation going forward to the state convention. You cannot always balme the voters when their votes are not counted or represented by the subverted delegations.


16 posted on 05/01/2012 3:38:13 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Happy Rain

Please explain how Romney is going to be able to win the election when the votes are being tallied by a company owned by a Spanish business owned and managed by European communists-socialist, massive vote fraud has been uncovered in manu U.S. jurisdictions where there are more voter registrations than there are eleigible voters to vote, where the U.S. Attorney General refuses to prosecute vote fraud crimes, and legitimate Republican votes are illegally removed from the ballot boxes until the Democrat candidate has a winning margin?


17 posted on 05/01/2012 3:43:31 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

:..George Romney, was an admirer of Saul Alinsky..”

Do you have a link to that?

Thanks


18 posted on 05/01/2012 3:51:56 AM PDT by panaxanax (0bama >>WORST PRESIDENT EVER.)
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To: Happy Rain

Your fear-mongering screed to try and scare Conservatives into voting for Romney out of fear of Obama is right out of the machine Playbook.

We choose not to play, nor will we accept responsibility for what the Ruling Class Oligarchs in league with Obama and the Democrats orchestrated, in order to box us into a corner with no choice but whom they presented us with.

You can keep playing their game and pretend that voting for Obama-lite is saving the nation and buying us more time to keep our stuff, but you have been given over to strong delusion, and you have bought into a brilliant lie.

We Conservatives have decided to think, act and vote outside the box created for us by Obama, Romney and the Ruling Class.


19 posted on 05/01/2012 3:52:47 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: samtheman

If the primaries were not rigged, Gingrisch could have gone on to the convention and received the majority vote of the delegates at the national convention. That will not and cannot happen, because the delegates sent to the national convention have already been pre-screened to remove the Gingrich delegates and push forward the Romney delegates, many of whom were Democrats in the 2008 election. You are laboring under the false assumption that the primary vote tallies represent how voters actually voted. They do not.


20 posted on 05/01/2012 3:59:32 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX; Windflier; onyx; trisham; DJ MacWoW; Jim Robinson
Thank you very much for that info WhiskeyX..


Wow.. check out his posts #9 and #16!

Everyone who was in doubt (about Robama/Obomney), should read this..
21 posted on 05/01/2012 4:00:10 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: panaxanax

See:

Mitt Romney’s Mentor, his Father, a Fan of Saul Alinsky
January 26, 2012, 4:24 pm By Arlen Williams
http://gulagbound.com/25499/mitt-romneys-mentor-his-father-a-fan-of-saul-alinsky/


22 posted on 05/01/2012 4:01:43 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Kaslin

I could “SCREAM” right about now! I need a break from you all. It is too depressing listening to this crap! I can’t stand the thought of the rest of my life
being under this regime we are about to set into place because of the blame game. GET THE HELL OVER IT PEOPLE! I am working my ass off canvassing neighborhoods and talking to people to get them engaged into the arena of ideas, and the very people that I come here to get strength from are acting like its over already. It is over if we throw in the towel and not come up with a strategy. If you don’t want Romney, so be it. But for heavens sake, you are depressing the vote of the Senate and Congress when you play this game. The only way we will beat this thing about to take place is to make sure that if you don’t want Romney, you take charge of the Legislature. Young folks don’t understand that, and when you talk this crap, they just won’t get out of bed. You ask me, “so what, they aren’t on these forums anyway”. True that, but you are in the real world and influence people you come in contact with. I run into people that say they just won’t vote, and I explain why it is important to vote. Stop whining and get up and become a precinct captain or a voter watch dog. Show them that we are not going to lay down and take it.
Now I’m going to work so that I can pay my mortgage since my husband has been layed off. Like I said, this is too depressing for me.


23 posted on 05/01/2012 4:33:25 AM PDT by marygam ((Hurry November 2012, we might not make it))
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To: Kaslin

Wow! having the word romney and Republic in the same sentence is rich I tell ya.Rich.


24 posted on 05/01/2012 4:37:47 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: marygam
It is over if we throw in the towel and not come up with a strategy. If you don’t want Romney, so be it. But for heavens sake, you are depressing the vote of the Senate and Congress when you play this game.

No one I have read has even suggested throwing in the towel, except I contend those throwing in the towel are those who say 'It's Romney or else!'.

We need to think outside the box the Ruling Class oligarchs in the GOP-e and Obama have constructed for us to operate within. Voting for their orchestrated candidate with help from Obama and the Media IS NOT an option.

25 posted on 05/01/2012 4:44:52 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: samtheman

“The problem isn’t in our liberals, it’s in our selves.”

I agree with this. But I also do blame a few people who either didn’t run, ran badly, or just ran away. And those people are: Mike Pence, Rick Perry, and Tim Pawlenty.


26 posted on 05/01/2012 4:49:41 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Ditto.


27 posted on 05/01/2012 4:54:20 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal!)
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To: Happy Rain

Ok, so what will arrest that increasingly leftward slide of the GOP? Every four years, it`s “You`ve gotta vote for the nominee, because .. gosh.. look at the alternative.” Sooo, we bite that hook in the naive hope the party will right itself.

It`s been the same crap every election since Reagan left office. The estabs beg for conservative votes, only to marginalize them once the voting is a done deal.


28 posted on 05/01/2012 5:06:38 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... so should voting!)
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To: Happy Rain

29 posted on 05/01/2012 5:17:59 AM PDT by icwhatudo (Tax codes and spending don't get 14 year olds pregnant and on welfare. Morality Matters.)
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To: marygam

It is because we have been delegates, precinct chairmen, state representatives/assembleymen, state senators, county officers, municipal officers, and more that we have experienced the problems of massive vote fraud. Pretending the problem can be overcome by just trying harder to get more votes reaches a point where it become irrational and perpetually self-defeating. This is amply demonstrated by the way in which the McCain Campaign did nothing to officially challenge a number of massive cases of vote fraud during the 2008 Election. Physchiatric physicians often diagonose a mental disorder by observing a patient who fails to recognize that doing the wrong act over and over again results in failure, like walking into the same closed door over and over again. The mentally healthy to do is to recognize the problem, adapt, and overcome. Ignoring the problem does not make it go away, not even for the sake of good morale and getting out the vote. On the contrary, getting out the vote is far more successful when the voter perceives doing so can be expected to produce the desired results.

Making effective change certainly does require securing votes for the legislatures, county offices, and municipal officers. But it also going to require sheriffs intent upon enforcing Constitutional eligibility of Presidential candidates. It is going to require state prosecutors and state representatives who will not countenance unconstitutional acts of the state and Federal governments. Getting out the vote for another Arlen Specter, Orin Hatch, Lugar, Romney, and so forth is a perfect way of NOT getting out the vote. The stench gets so bad, it can no longer be swept underneath a table nor served as a helping of crow atop the table. Their are Constitutional alternatives, but the naysayers are going to have to go back to the fundamentals and get over the idea that participation in illegitimate elections is an effective or solitary means of rectifying the problem.


30 posted on 05/01/2012 5:19:08 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Kaslin

I don’t care if he can divide by zero, Chuck is a Mittbot.


31 posted on 05/01/2012 5:19:24 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (There will be no vote for Myth Romney in my house. Period.)
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To: WhiskeyX

AMEN. Best thing said about this entire subject on myriad threads.


32 posted on 05/01/2012 5:21:22 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kaslin

Hey Chuck... even you... as bad ass as you are... will never get me to vote for romney... understand Chuck?

LLS


33 posted on 05/01/2012 5:23:33 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: marygam

You are so right. I would never have picked Romney.However, since it appears he is going to be running against Obama, I will vote for him, and try to pick the most conservative candidates from the other races that are still up. I’m certainly hoping that those who say they won’t vote for Romney, and let Obama win will re consider before the elections. We didn’t get in this shape in one election cycle, and we won’t get out of it in one, but we can do irreparable harm by letting a full fledged totalitarian communist have another 4 years. One of the things to remember, if Romney is put in, he will know that going too far too the left as president will surely get him defeated for a second term (hopefully we can find someone more conservative by then.)Obama on the other hand, if he wins another term will show us uncut communism.
Our country needs us like never before!


34 posted on 05/01/2012 5:24:25 AM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Kaslin
romney will do nothing to stop the destruction of our Republic... without GOD’s direct intervention... we are already done and finished. mitt is paying people to start fires on FR... this is not in doubt... some have already been purged... and if he has so divided and damaged FR and the Conservative movement... and this too is not in question... read any thread on FR and it becomes clear that we are more divided today than ever before... then what in the world do you think that he will do to America? We need every primary voter remaining to vote against mitt. Most of the others candidate's names will remain on the ballot.

LLS

35 posted on 05/01/2012 5:31:03 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Pray hard and often!)
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To: Quickgun

You insist upon voting for Romney because you assert doing otherwise unercuts the efforts to remove Obama from the Office of the President. Yet you ignore the way in which you undercut the efforts of other people who would argue for removing Obama and Romney from the Office of the President. How is perpetually defeating your own ultimate goals helpful or inspiring to others?

There are alternatives. Why not consider them, espeically if Romney’s defeat has already been pre-determined by a rigged election?


36 posted on 05/01/2012 5:32:33 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: Quickgun
I’m certainly hoping that those who say they won’t vote for Romney, and let Obama win will re consider before the elections.

Your hope is in vain. We will NEVER consider voting for Romney. In fact, since the GOP-e declared war on Conservatives, I am making it my focus to get as many as I know and preach to, to vote for a staunch Conservative, thwart the machine, and hold their principles intact.

Voting for the Ruling Class GOP-e candidate to supposedly stop Obama in November is as clear a definition of insanity that one can find an illustration of.

37 posted on 05/01/2012 5:37:27 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: samtheman
The winner of South Carolina didn't even have enough money to run in Michigan. It was only a race between Romney and Santorum, and Romney spent boatloads of cash peddling lies, and half truths to the point he scared off many voters.

This nomination was bought and paid for by big money GOP insiders.

38 posted on 05/01/2012 5:43:03 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Happy Rain
It's McCain all over again—only this time we know what happens when people won't bite the bullet and vote for the GOP nominee—we got Obama.

That is a lie, and you know it. McCain lost because he was an awful candidate. His loss was insured the day he ran back to Washington to vote for TARP.

And by the way, try to understand the difference between principle and petulance.

39 posted on 05/01/2012 5:58:01 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Voter#537

“We have 4 SC Justices that could retire in 4 years”

How does this sound:
Supreme Court Justice Eric Holder
Supreme Court Justice Kathleen Sebelius
Supreme Court Justice Janet Napolitano
Supreme Court Justice Van Jones


40 posted on 05/01/2012 6:02:56 AM PDT by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss

Yes, and what do you propose to do about it when the vote fraud declares Obama the winner even though Romney won more non-fraudulent votes and more Electoral votes. You do know the Democrats have more registered voters in some precincts than there are eligible voters? You do know the vote totals are being handled by a company run by firends of Obama? Why don’t you join others in enforcing the laws BEFORE the election?


41 posted on 05/01/2012 6:15:19 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: BO Stinkss

Yes, and what do you propose to do about it when the vote fraud declares Obama the winner even though Romney won more non-fraudulent votes and more Electoral votes. You do know the Democrats have more registered voters in some precincts than there are eligible voters? You do know the vote totals are being handled by a company run by firends of Obama? Why don’t you join others in enforcing the laws BEFORE the election?


42 posted on 05/01/2012 6:15:28 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

They have no proposals other than wetting themselves in fear and thinking that voting for Romney somehow saves us from Obama’s war on what is left of the Republic.

They refuse to consider that Romney is a chosen vessel to lose large and make Obama’s election look legitimate.

The Ruling Class knows where the power now lies, and they will do anything to continue to share in it. Even if it means exterminating Conservatives and boxing them into a corner to vote for Obama’s hand-picked opponent.


43 posted on 05/01/2012 6:20:21 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: BO Stinkss

What do you propose to do about Romney nominating the same types of liberal Supreme Court Justices as Obama, after you helped to elect him into the Office of the President?


44 posted on 05/01/2012 6:22:37 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: INVAR

Frankly, I don’t trust you.

You’re all over the FR boards encouraging people to not vote for Romney, and that’s fine. That’s your view.

You cross the line, though, when you howl like a Soros moonbat and try to depress voting. Sowing the seeds of surrender is typical of Marxist infiltrators on FR.

You registered on FR in 2000, and you suddenly appear on FR with bile and vitriol and encourage people to sit home and not vote. If you had an ounce of concern about the Republic, you would be telling people to get out and vote for conservatives down the ticket. That would include voting for conservatives at the state and local level. You’re not doing that in any of your posts.

I’m not buying your crap. You smell like a Soros troll.


45 posted on 05/01/2012 6:24:20 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: INVAR

Yes, even Kabuki theater is far more subtle.


46 posted on 05/01/2012 6:25:20 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: sergeantdave

You owe him an apology. No one said anything about sitting home and not voting. On the contrary, we are saying you have to vote and do far more than just casting votes that will not be counted or will be counter-productive. It is very wrong of you to suggest otherwise.


47 posted on 05/01/2012 6:28:25 AM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: sergeantdave
and encourage people to sit home and not vote.

That would make you an abject lying sack now wouldn't it? Care to post where I have stated that Conservatives "should sit home and not vote"??

I would expect you to post your charge wherein I have stated and/or suggested as such, and since you will not be able to find it anywhere, my question to you is; do you have any honor to admit you were wrong, or will you do as all liars do and justify the lie?

If you had an ounce of concern about the Republic, you would be telling people to get out and vote for conservatives down the ticket.

You obviously have a reading comprehension problem then, because I have strongly advocated the voting of staunch conservatives. REPEATEDLY.

As to voting "down the ticket", I guess you choose not to see that the Ruling Class GOP-e is working hand-in-hand with Obama to marginalize and render Conservatives irrelevant in the GOP.

But you go ahead and vote straight ticket and practice insanity again.

The rest of us are moving on with a different strategy than doing what the Ruling Class masters have boxed you in to a corner to lap up like a dog.

48 posted on 05/01/2012 6:36:54 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: BO Stinkss
"How does this sound:
Supreme Court Justice Eric Holder
Supreme Court Justice Kathleen Sebelius
Supreme Court Justice Janet Napolitano
Supreme Court Justice Van Jones
"

If that don't scare the Be-Jesus out of ya then nothing will.

49 posted on 05/01/2012 6:44:55 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968- I have now gone pecan.)
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To: INVAR

Try starting with post #2.

I don’t see one word from you encouraging people to vote for conservatives in state and local elections, or down the ticket in national races.

“I have strongly advocated the voting of staunch conservatives. REPEATEDLY.”

Prove it.


50 posted on 05/01/2012 6:47:13 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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