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Mormon Bishop Mitt Romney’s Anti-Christian Religion
http://defendchristians.org ^ | April 13, 2012 | http://defendchristians.org

Posted on 05/01/2012 7:33:08 PM PDT by Mozilla

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To: betty boop

Bachman, Rubio, Bob McDonnell, Susana Martinez...there are a lot of good conservative names out there.

I expect we will know sometime in late May or early June who it is, and like you I am praying it is a firebrand, young, tea party conservative.


401 posted on 05/04/2012 8:47:06 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: betty boop; xzins; Bigun; P-Marlowe; Colofornian

No one would be an acceptable VP enough to get me to vote for Romney. It would be hypocritical of me to ever vote for Romney.

Sadly, Bachmann is deluded on Romney’s ‘pro-life’ views. She has become a real disappointment.

I’m out of the GOP over this. I will no longer be played the fool.


402 posted on 05/04/2012 9:01:56 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut

Hi Reaganaut,

How can you know that Mitt Romney thinks he is sinless? I have never heard him declare himself so.


403 posted on 05/04/2012 9:06:23 AM PDT by Normandy
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To: reaganaut; xzins; Bigun; P-Marlowe; Colofornian; Alamo-Girl
I’m out of the GOP over this. I will no longer be played the fool.

I beat you to it: I resigned from the Republican Party in 2010, shortly after passage of Obamacare. (I was furious over the abject ineffectiveness of the GOP in stopping it.)

I am now listed as an "Unenrolled" (i.e., Independent) voter in Massachusetts.

FWIW.

404 posted on 05/04/2012 9:07:51 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: Normandy

He acts like he is politically sinless and Mormon weak view of sin and worthiness.


405 posted on 05/04/2012 9:07:51 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: betty boop

You resigned, yet you are voting for their candidate? Whatever...


406 posted on 05/04/2012 9:12:02 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut

The reality is far different, as evidenced by a lot of people I know who work pro-life clinics in Utah and have to deal with Mormon women who think abortion is just fine.
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407 posted on 05/04/2012 9:36:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: reaganaut
You resigned, yet you are voting for their candidate? Whatever...

There is nobody left to vote for that has a chance of winning — thus to remove Obama from office. I've said it before, and will say it again until I'm blue in the face: Removal of this criminal conspiracy from the White House is JOB ONE for me: The Republic will likely not survive four more years of Obama.

408 posted on 05/04/2012 9:51:16 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

Betty, you are a precious sister in Christ, and I’d love to be one with you all on this, but I cannot.

Michelle is being a party team player.

I am an independent, pro-life conservative. I am beholden to no party.

Romney is not a pro-life conservative. His record is easy to look up. His cynical flips and flops on the issue depending on what he was running for make me think he is lying....again.

And, given the track record, I’m probably right.


409 posted on 05/04/2012 10:04:30 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Obama Disses the Operators Who Took Out Bin Laden in Afghan!)
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To: betty boop

If the chair of the Congressional Tea Party Caucus is willing to try to unite the GOP, for the purpose of showing Obama the door, then all I can say is she definitely senses the URGENCY of defeating Obama.
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But for Michele to lie for Willard is not a Christian thing to do...

If shes so desparate that she will spit on her Conservative principles and the Bible then she is not having faith in God...

We as Christian never get to that point when the situation is that “urgent” that we will turn away from God and think a sin will overcome evil...


410 posted on 05/04/2012 10:07:50 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: xzins; Bigun; LS; Alamo-Girl; reaganaut; P-Marlowe; Tennessee Nana; Yashcheritsiy; Jeff Head; ...
His cynical flips and flops on the issue depending on what he was running for make me think he is lying....again. And, given the track record, I’m probably right.

Well dear brother in Christ, you gotta do what you gotta do. Vote your conscience. I'm at peace with that.

All I can say is if there are enough folks of your attitude around, Obama will win a second term.

Period.

At which point, you can kiss the Republic and our system of individual Liberty under just and equal laws good-bye.

And I do not believe that is an exaggeration in the least.

411 posted on 05/04/2012 10:17:36 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop

Betty, I have no doubt that I will oppose BOTH Obama and Romney in the upcoming election. I have no doubt that I will campaign hard in my precinct here in rural Ohio for Virgil Goode.

I consider Mitt Romney actually to be the more evil choice, because he is the seductive choice that draws people to compromise their beliefs.


412 posted on 05/04/2012 10:36:04 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Obama Disses the Operators Who Took Out Bin Laden in Afghan!)
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To: reaganaut
And again the so called ‘official policy’ on homosexuality is contradicted by LDS practice (including the leadership).

But...

It was reported in the papers that...

413 posted on 05/04/2012 11:01:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Jeff Head
If they do not act upon these inclinations, then they can go forward as do all other members of the Church. If they violate the law of chastity and the moral standards of the Church, then they are subject to the discipline of the Church, just as others are” (Gordon B. Hinckley, Ensign , Nov. 1998, 71).

Hope this helps, too...


http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/52486958-78/mayne-gay-lds-ward.html.csp

I am Mitch Mayne, and I am an openly gay Latter-day Saint.

On August 14, 2011, I was sustained as the executive secretary in the Bishopric of the Bay Ward of the San Francisco Stake of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormons).

 

 http://www.mitchmayne.com/

 
 

414 posted on 05/04/2012 11:07:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Normandy; Jeff Head
How can you know that Mitt Romney thinks he is sinless? I have never heard him declare himself so.

How can you know that Normandy and Jeff Head are MORMONs?? I have never seen either of them ever type any MORMON doctrine on FR.

415 posted on 05/04/2012 11:09:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

416 posted on 05/04/2012 11:11:37 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: xzins; NFHale; Yashcheritsiy; reaganaut; betty boop; Jim Robinson; LS; Bigun; P-Marlowe; ...
I consider Mitt Romney actually to be the more evil choice, because he is the seductive choice that draws people to compromise their beliefs.

But here's a "What-If":

What if Obama is the AntiChrist (or at least an antichrist, and it seems pretty plain to me that he is); and what if God, for His own inscrutable reasons, has decided to stand up Romney as the defender of our ideologically Christian-based national order — then what? (There's irony there....)

Do you prefer to feel self-justified in the purity of your belief, and "vote your principles" rather than defend your nation against the greatest perversion this nation has ever seen (arguably, including human chattel slavery)? Someone who holds your beliefs in utter contempt, who holds Christianity in utter contempt? Who holds human liberty in utter contempt? Who holds the Constitution in utter contempt, and spits on it every day? And this is the guy who's running our nation and all it stands for — right into the ground?

And you will do nothing to remove him from office, nothing to defend our Republic against the evil that he is relentlessly perpetrating on it — because you cannot accept a candidate who wears "temple garments," who thinks differently than you do about religious matters?

Jeepers, I wonder about your sense of proportion....

We are a nation under God: And that nation needs defending!

Sigh. I'm beginning to feel what Cassandra must have felt, who saw what was coming — the Trojan War and the subsequent utter destruction of Troy — and tried to warn people. But of course, nobody listened to her. She had to sit haplessly, helplessly by, in agony, watching all her predictions being relentlessly fulfilled....

This, to me, is a good analogy of what is happening, here and now....

JMHO FWIW

Thanks for writing, dear brother in Christ.

417 posted on 05/04/2012 11:18:38 AM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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To: betty boop; reaganaut; Alamo-Girl
And you will do nothing to remove him from office, nothing to defend our Republic against the evil that he is relentlessly perpetrating on it — because you cannot accept a candidate who wears "temple garments," who thinks differently than you do about religious matters?

You have me entirely wrong, Betty. It honestly has nothing to do with Mormonism. With a Mormon associate, I co-authored a program entitled "Spiritual Dimensions of Family Living" some 15 years ago. We worked closely for nearly a year huddled in some corner of each other's homes. We jointly and individually presented that program to groups for years.

Would I teach Mormon theology? Of course not, but I'm quite certain he wouldn't be teaching Trinitarianism at his local stake, either.

I oppose Romney because he a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, anti-gun, pro-big government, pro-tax, 3rd way, social corporatist.

He is also the seducer.

It is not Obama who appears to be an "Angel of Light". He, in fact, appears to be an incompetent to me. My biblical background says that Obama is not the anti-Christ. He's the son of a Kenyan and some variety of English Anglo-Saxon. He doesn't even qualify. The Romans were still attempting to conquer England in 70 AD amid uprisings in the conquered territories. They weren't conscripting the enemy that I know of. Kenya wasn't part of the Roman Empire at all. The Romans had no desire to conquer that far south.

So, there is no way in which they were part of the people of those who destroyed Jerusalem.

418 posted on 05/04/2012 11:46:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Obama Disses the Operators Who Took Out Bin Laden in Afghan!)
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To: betty boop
Do you prefer to feel self-justified in the purity of your belief, and "vote your principles" rather than defend your nation against the greatest perversion this nation has ever seen (arguably, including human chattel slavery)? Someone who holds your beliefs in utter contempt, who holds Christianity in utter contempt? Who holds human liberty in utter contempt? Who holds the Constitution in utter contempt, and spits on it every day? And this is the guy who's running our nation and all it stands for — right into the ground?

A most excellent question and VERY well constructed!

I WILL stand against the greater evil!

419 posted on 05/04/2012 11:47:48 AM PDT by Bigun ("The most fearsome words in the English language are I'm from the government and I'm here to help!")
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To: xzins; reaganaut; Alamo-Girl; Bigun; LS; Jeff Head; Jim Robinson; NFHale; Yashcheritsiy; ...
[Obama], in fact, appears to be an incompetent to me.

Then I daresay, you seriously underestimate the man.

To me, he is the most highly skilled political demon ever to be hatched out of "Screwtapes's Tempters College for Young Devils" (metaphorically speaking). And he knows exactly what he's doing.

Not only is he fully committed to what he's doing, but he's got another demon — Eric Holder at Justice — helping out in every way to "legally justify" his destruction of our rule of law. And George Soros and various assorted, rich Hollywood muckety-mucks to promote and fund his plans. Not to mention all the "help" he's getting from the labor unions; tenured, radical Left Progressives holed up in academe, the MSM, and our formerly "free" private foundations and institutions, including (oh so sadly!) many Christian churches nowadays. [E.g., the "social justice" a/k/a "liberation theology" movements.]

In short, IMHO, Obama is a metastasizing cancer in the body politic which, if not excised, and soon, will kill us all, including our posterity.

You wrote:

I oppose Romney because he a pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, anti-gun, pro-big government, pro-tax, 3rd way, social corporatist.... He is also the seducer.

Hogwash! Looks like a caricature of the man to me, pure and simple. Have you the ability to look into this man's heart, mind, soul, so as to verify any of these things about him, outside of your evidently passionately-held fancies?

I feel I don't need to remind you of this (but will anyway): One of the most foundational values/principles on which our system of individual liberty under just and equal laws rests is: Our long-cherished heritage of Religious Toleration.

That seems to be going right out the window, these days ... judging from what I am reading here....

I really don't have anything further to say. What more can I add?

Except: Go in peace, dear brother in Christ! May the Spirit of Christ be with you and all your loved ones, now and always.

420 posted on 05/04/2012 12:37:52 PM PDT by betty boop (We are led to believe a lie when we see with, and not through the eye. — William Blake)
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