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Mormon Bishop Mitt Romney’s Anti-Christian Religion
http://defendchristians.org ^ | April 13, 2012 | http://defendchristians.org

Posted on 05/01/2012 7:33:08 PM PDT by Mozilla

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To: Colofornian
Jesus died for him, too, showing Mitt Romney's great worth.

AMEN!

551 posted on 05/06/2012 1:44:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Maranatha, Jesus!

That being said; I hope the PRE-trib folks are right!

552 posted on 05/06/2012 1:45:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

Or Pre-Wrath, either way...


553 posted on 05/06/2012 7:13:16 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: reaganaut
None of these things will change with Romney.

Others would disagree. Nevertheless, we must each vote according to our personal beliefs and understanding.

554 posted on 05/06/2012 7:15:57 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Colofornian; betty boop; Elsie; SoConPubbie; aMorePerfectUnion; P-Marlowe; xzins; NFHale; ...
bb:...the harrowing fact about some Christians is that their regard for the written word as completely "complete." That is, if you understand the doctrine, it will save you. Just believe in it; you don't have to do anything else to be saved. My problem is, any form of written language always refers to something greater than itself. It cannot be an "end in itself" in principle; its function is to point to a higher, greater Truth, of which the written word is but a declension. But it seems so many Christians nowadays think that the mastery of the written word as an end-in-itself is what saves. I do not believe this. Indeed, there is a word that describes this attitude: bibliolatry. Bibliolatry substitutes the Holy Bible for God Himself, and His Living Word. The Holy Scriptures cannot be a "reduction" of God, or a God substitute, in any way.

c: 39 You study the Scriptures diligently because you think that in them you have eternal life. These are the very Scriptures that testify about me... (John 5:39)

Also....

Galatians 3:24 So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith.

Acts 4:12 And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

bb, I hate to say it, but it sounds like you're repeating anti-Protestant talking points. Nobody claims that doctrine saves or that the Bible saves. Anyone who preaches the gospel will clearly and freely confess Christ as their savior, He alone being the one who saves by His mercy and grace. Forgiveness is a gift, freely given. If it weren't, it wouldn't be a gift, rather something earned.

Nevertheless, Scripture is the special revelation whereby we can know God instead of knowing about Him as the general revelation gives us knowledge.

Scripture is the absolute standard of truth by which we measure everything to determine if it's from God or not. If it doesn't line up with Scripture, it's not from God. Jesus being the child of God conceived through sex between God the Father and Mary, denies the virgin birth and incarnation as clearly taught in Scripture.

Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Acts 17:11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

However, nobody *worships* the Bible. The charge of *bibliolatry* is unfounded.

The Bible IS complete, in that it contains all we need to come into a saving relationship with God. There is no need for any more special revelation outside of Scripture.

Anyone who so claims what God said isn't enough or complete, falls into the trap of *Did God REALLY say....? that Satan used to deceive Eve.

Mastery of the written word is something we are admonished to attain.

2 Timothy 2:15 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.

2 Timothy 4:1-4 I charge you in the presence of God and of Christ Jesus, who is to judge the living and the dead, and by his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

555 posted on 05/06/2012 7:32:48 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Just a question. Are you aware of how Pro-Islam and Anti-Christian Mormonism truly is? Would you like to know more? I can provide some good source material from LDS leaders. Please do not ignore the realities of who Romney truly is and the control the Mormon church exercises over him. Not God, not Christ, the Corporation of the Mormon Church.

Others may disagree, however I have been Mormon, I know exactly what their agenda is and their propensity for lying to get what they want and make Mormonism look good.

I do agree we must vote according to our conscience and I cannot vote for someone who believes and acts contrary to the Gospel of Christ - Mitt Romney. Nor can I vote for anyone or anything that will be used to further the goals of the Mormon cult - a group that spits on my Savior - again Mitt Romney. Obama isn’t any better. So I am voting against both.

Matthew 10:28 - Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.


556 posted on 05/06/2012 7:52:24 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: reaganaut

Romney = obamney


557 posted on 05/06/2012 10:00:59 AM PDT by metmom ( For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: reaganaut; betty boop; xzins; P-Marlowe; Elsie; metmom
Are you aware of how Pro-Islam and Anti-Christian Mormonism truly is? Would you like to know more? I can provide some good source material from LDS leaders.

You need not repeat anything you've posted before for my sake - I make it a point to read most everything you post on the religion threads.

Three points related to voting our conscience:

First, a Christian should not demand every other Christian be just like him.

Christ chose twelve very different people to be His apostles. John was not like Peter who was not like James who was not like Thomas who was not like Paul who was not like Judas. Not every Christian is a firebrand like Paul or a gentleman like John or a hardhead like Thomas and so on. They did not agree on every thing (Acts.) Not every Christian has the same spiritual gifts and calling. (I Cor 12)

That one Christian is compelled in the spirit to vote against both Obama and Romney does not mean that every other Christian will therefore be compelled to do the same thing. God did not make us with a cookie cutter.

Second, we are mere mortals and therefore incapable of mentally rationalizing God's will. Rather, we should seek His will through prayer.

Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. - Proverbs 3:5-6

Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened. - Matthew 7:7-8

Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. - Philippians 4:6-7

Third, we should not presume that an evil actor in high office is against the will of God.

Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? - John 6:70

And the LORD said unto Moses, Go in unto Pharaoh: for I have hardened his heart, and the heart of his servants, that I might shew these my signs before him: - Exodus 10:1

Nebuchadnezzar the king, unto all people, nations, and languages, that dwell in all the earth; Peace be multiplied unto you. I thought it good to shew the signs and wonders that the high God hath wrought toward me. - Daniel 4:1-2

We can't know what God knows. For instance, when the eleven apostles threw lots to decide who should replace Judas, Saul of Tarsus was not even an option no doubt because he was quite literally out to kill them. But God knew what He was going to do with Saul aka the apostle Paul.

But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel: - Acts 9:15

My point it that we may reason among ourselves what would be the wise thing to do with our vote but ultimately all that matters this November is whether each of us Christians did what God led us, individually, to do.

God's Name is I AM.

558 posted on 05/06/2012 11:21:36 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

And where have I done any of those things. Regarding the evil actor, it is possible that it is God’s will, that does not mean we should vote for it. Even if we vote against it, if it is God’s PERMISSIVE will (like Israel having a King), then doesn’t mean it is His EXPRESSIVE will, nor does it mean we, as Christians should support it.

I’m just giving you food for thought. As for me, I CANNOT support Romney - for very many reasons. There is no such thing as the lesser of two evils and it saddens me to see so many people cave to evil.


559 posted on 05/06/2012 11:30:57 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama. Constitution party, here I come!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Keep on reading....

... then RE-read it, only replacing the word Nebuchadnezzar with United States of America.

 




 

Daniel Interprets the Dream

19 Then Daniel (also called Belteshazzar) was greatly perplexed for a time, and his thoughts terrified him. So the king said, “Belteshazzar, do not let the dream or its meaning alarm you.”

Belteshazzar answered, “My lord, if only the dream applied to your enemies and its meaning to your adversaries! 20 The tree you saw, which grew large and strong, with its top touching the sky, visible to the whole earth, 21 with beautiful leaves and abundant fruit, providing food for all, giving shelter to the wild animals, and having nesting places in its branches for the birds 22 Your Majesty, you are that tree! You have become great and strong; your greatness has grown until it reaches the sky, and your dominion extends to distant parts of the earth.

23 “Your Majesty saw a holy one, a messenger, coming down from heaven and saying, ‘Cut down the tree and destroy it, but leave the stump, bound with iron and bronze, in the grass of the field, while its roots remain in the ground. Let him be drenched with the dew of heaven; let him live with the wild animals, until seven times pass by for him.’

24 “This is the interpretation, Your Majesty, and this is the decree the Most High has issued against my lord the king: 25 You will be driven away from people and will live with the wild animals; you will eat grass like the ox and be drenched with the dew of heaven. Seven times will pass by for you until you acknowledge that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes. 26 The command to leave the stump of the tree with its roots means that your kingdom will be restored to you when you acknowledge that Heaven rules. 27 Therefore, Your Majesty, be pleased to accept my advice: Renounce your sins by doing what is right, and your wickedness by being kind to the oppressed. It may be that then your prosperity will continue.

The Dream Is Fulfilled

28 All this happened to King Nebuchadnezzar. 29 Twelve months later, as the king was walking on the roof of the royal palace of Babylon, 30 he said, “Is not this the great Babylon I have built as the royal residence, by my mighty power and for the glory of my majesty?”

31 Even as the words were on his lips, a voice came from heaven, “This is what is decreed for you, King Nebuchadnezzar: Your royal authority has been taken from you. 32 You will be driven away from people and will live with the wild animals; you will eat grass like the ox. Seven times will pass by for you until you acknowledge that the Most High is sovereign over all kingdoms on earth and gives them to anyone he wishes.”

33 Immediately what had been said about Nebuchadnezzar was fulfilled. He was driven away from people and ate grass like the ox. His body was drenched with the dew of heaven until his hair grew like the feathers of an eagle and his nails like the claws of a bird.

34 At the end of that time, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven, and my sanity was restored. Then I praised the Most High; I honored and glorified him who lives forever.

His dominion is an eternal dominion;
his kingdom endures from generation to generation.
35 All the peoples of the earth
are regarded as nothing.
He does as he pleases
with the powers of heaven
and the peoples of the earth.
No one can hold back his hand
or say to him: “What have you done?”

36 At the same time that my sanity was restored, my honor and splendor were returned to me for the glory of my kingdom. My advisers and nobles sought me out, and I was restored to my throne and became even greater than before. 37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and exalt and glorify the King of heaven, because everything he does is right and all his ways are just. And those who walk in pride he is able to humble.


560 posted on 05/06/2012 6:13:29 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Third, we should not presume that an evil actor in high office is against the will of God.

AMEN!

561 posted on 05/06/2012 6:14:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Alamo-Girl

We Freepers are lamenting the fact (although NEITHER party has held a convention yet) that the ‘choices’ we’ll have are pathetic.

Folks; the ‘problems’ this Nation has are NOT political; but Spiritual.

They will NOT be solved by politics; but by a renewed spirit.

The BOOK does NOT say:

If my people, who are called by my name, will search themselves and seek an ably qualified Conservative and turn from their profligate ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land.

See instead: 2 Chronicles 7:14


562 posted on 05/06/2012 6:21:19 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
I was speaking of Christian voters generally not you, personally.

Namely, we should respect our differences, we should pray to seek God's will and finally, we should not despair over an evil actor in high office.

What matters is whether each of us Christians did what God led us, individually, to do.

563 posted on 05/06/2012 7:44:04 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Elsie
Folks; the ‘problems’ this Nation has are NOT political; but Spiritual. They will NOT be solved by politics; but by a renewed spirit.

Amen!!!

I join in earnest prayer for Spiritual renewal throughout this country!

Thank you also for those beautiful Scriptures from Daniel 4!

The very thing I sought in the Presidential primaries was a candidate who would humble himself before God, kneel and ask us to join him in prayer for our country.

Perry had a record of doing just that - but alas, it was not to be.

564 posted on 05/06/2012 7:51:25 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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