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South Africa's apartheid land fix withers in fields
Reuters ^ | Tue Apr 24, 2012 | Olivia Kumwenda and Jon Herskovitz

Posted on 05/01/2012 8:39:26 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

South Africa's plans to undo the wrongs of apartheid by returning land seized from native blacks is embodied in the life of Koos Mthimkhulu.

He was born on a white-owned farm in 1955 and attended a school set up by white farmers to give him just enough education for a life as field hand. A short childhood gave way to decades of milking cows, driving tractors and ploughing fields for poverty-level wages.

When white-minority rule ended in 1994, the new democratic government made it a priority to return land to those dispossessed. It wrote the idea into the constitution and made a plan that would make people like Mthimkhulu independent farmers.

Yet the practice under the African National Congress (ANC) has fallen far short of targets and disappointment is stocking up new risks of social, racial and economic crisis to threaten the very democracy intended to save South Africa from disaster.

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1 posted on 05/01/2012 8:39:41 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

SA will just be a replay of Zimbabwe.


2 posted on 05/01/2012 8:51:39 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: MinorityRepublican
"It's hard to make it as a farmer without the right support," he said. "Without the right help, we will fail."

Do you think anyone with that attitude will succeed?

3 posted on 05/01/2012 9:00:13 PM PDT by immadashell
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To: MinorityRepublican

I can’t say it never happened but generally South African Boers did not seize land from Blacks. They were literally there first except for around the Cape and a few nomads.


4 posted on 05/01/2012 9:06:27 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: MinorityRepublican

***A short childhood gave way to decades of milking cows, driving tractors and ploughing fields for poverty-level wages. ***

So? We did the same things for poverty wages here in the 1960s.


5 posted on 05/01/2012 9:12:25 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: MinorityRepublican

“Native blacks”? Blacks aren’t native to SA, but very few know that.


6 posted on 05/01/2012 9:18:12 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: MinorityRepublican

South Africa is not what it used to be: http://www.delawarebeaches.com/videonetwork/1582178535001/White-Lion-Roars-in-Zulu-to-Unite


7 posted on 05/01/2012 9:23:13 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: facedown

I started reading and quit. It is the same old mumbo jumbo of excuses and disadvantages and white favoritism and all that same old crap.

Of course if they don’t actually OWN the land they can’t get loans but should they need them? It sounds like they have been given a lot already.

Then it rolls on to government mismanagement... what else is new? Sounds familiar. When you get paid no matter what you do most eventually do nothing in return. Give up your freedom for the government tit and all you can steal. Wonderful.


8 posted on 05/01/2012 9:29:11 PM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: MinorityRepublican

Zimbabwe: The Sequel


9 posted on 05/01/2012 9:32:53 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: yarddog
"I can’t say it never happened but generally South African Boers did not seize land from Blacks. They were literally there first except for around the Cape and a few nomads."

That's right. They migrated to the prosperity brought by the Whites. It's only in modern times that they claim to have been 'driven from their lands.'

10 posted on 05/01/2012 9:34:58 PM PDT by blam
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To: MinorityRepublican

New South Africa: http://southafrica-pig.blogspot.com/2012/03/were-at-mercy-of-criminals.html

Deaths of Durban and Johannesburg:

http://deathofdurban.blogspot.com/

http://deathofjohannesburg.blogspot.com/


11 posted on 05/01/2012 9:39:33 PM PDT by Bon of Babble (The Road to Ruin is Always Kept in Good Repair)
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To: MinorityRepublican
When white-minority rule ended in 1994, the new democratic government made it a priority to return land to those dispossessed.

I suppose it's no surprise that a lefty "news" organization like Reuters would want to perpetuate the brazen lie that the farm land was "taken" from "native inhabitants". South Africa was largely barren and sparsely populated when Dutch settlers arrived and developed the place. Natives from other parts of Africa migrated there for a chance at an improved life. They were not slaves. But the liberals and their newsrooms revised history once again, and now... well, South Africa is on its way down the same toilet of history as the once beautiful "bread basket of Africa", Rhodesia... now known as "Zimbabwe".

Congratulations, liberal Democrat scum.

12 posted on 05/01/2012 9:46:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Kind of like the idea that the whole bloomin’ continent of North America was “owned by Indians.” Not quite.


13 posted on 05/01/2012 9:53:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Away with them and the high horses they rode in on.)
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To: facedown
. . .But Mthimkhulu . . . without ownership, he seems destined for the failure that has hit many like him who thought themselves among a fortunate few to get land: "I struggled for a long time and I can't get a loan from banks because I can't use the farm for security," he said in the local Sesotho language.

This is the result of trying to time warp a culture into a more sophisticated civilized society. Britain has made this same error all over the globe. If this culture had the wherewithal to keep pace with the more advanced societies wild horses wouldn't have kept them from educating and advancing their society.

The globe is full of unhappy people who were 'targeted' by well meaning 'others' to fast forward into a life style they were neither ready to embrace or prepared to incorporate into their current culture. Hawaii comes to mind.

Again, it might be done with the best of intentions but it creates hostility, unhappy conquered people, destroys another cultural heritage and often leads to violent conflict.

Why assume that an less advanced culture of people are unhappy with their situation and that force feeding them another Nirvana will awaken and improve their situation for all time?

14 posted on 05/01/2012 10:24:01 PM PDT by chit*chat
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To: facedown
. . .But Mthimkhulu . . . without ownership, he seems destined for the failure that has hit many like him who thought themselves among a fortunate few to get land: "I struggled for a long time and I can't get a loan from banks because I can't use the farm for security," he said in the local Sesotho language.

This is the result of trying to time warp a culture into a more sophisticated civilized society. Britain has made this same error all over the globe. If this culture had the wherewithal to keep pace with the more advanced societies wild horses wouldn't have kept them from educating and advancing their society.

The globe is full of unhappy people who were 'targeted' by well meaning 'others' to fast forward into a life style they were neither ready to embrace or prepared to incorporate into their current culture. Hawaii comes to mind.

Again, it might be done with the best of intentions but it creates hostility, unhappy conquered people, destroys another cultural heritage and often leads to violent conflict.

They become more aware of their present reality, but ultimately they did not possess the ability to improve their lot, nor can they easily assimilate into a more advanced culture style. It takes generations before the gap is closed and resentment and distrust ebb away. In the long run they advance no more quickly than they might if left on their own to advance at their own, comfortable pace.

15 posted on 05/01/2012 10:32:23 PM PDT by chit*chat
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Well, it sort of was. It’s just that the waves of illness brought on by contact with the Old World decimated the indigenous population. By the time that significant surveys of the interior of North America (I’m excluding Mexico here) were conducted in the 16th and 17th centuries, the bulk of the populace had perished, leaving behind vast tracts of land populated by only a handful of survivors. The large nation-state civilizations like the Mound-builders had ceased to exist.


16 posted on 05/01/2012 11:26:00 PM PDT by JerseyanExile
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Even at their densest, are you saying Indians had mapped out the continent and divvied it up?


17 posted on 05/02/2012 12:56:38 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Away with them and the high horses they rode in on.)
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To: immadashell

Hell, just write him a check, and tell him to get off the land. When people are starving, then they will take back the fields.


18 posted on 05/02/2012 2:06:59 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Columbus mapped out the Americas and proclaimed ownership. It is one thing to proclaim, another to take possession..


19 posted on 05/02/2012 2:12:29 AM PDT by richardtavor
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To: immadashell

“Do you think anyone with that attitude will succeed? “

I’d say he’s adking to be supported by US taxpayers from cradle to grave . He must have enough education to read about his US brothers in welfare.


20 posted on 05/02/2012 4:03:59 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: richardtavor

Christopher Columbus could at best have only mapped out a bit of the Caribbean region. That’s a lot of New World that was not on his map.


21 posted on 05/02/2012 10:53:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Away with them and the high horses they rode in on.)
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