Posted on 05/01/2012 8:52:08 PM PDT by Antoninus
Let's face it. The second Mitt Romney becomes the Republican nominee for president, conservatives have lost the 2012 election. The time has come to attempt to make the best of a bad situation.
Please allow me to present my analysis of our current political situation and my worst- and best-case scenarios.
Worst outcome: Obama wins, Democrats Take Control of the Congress.
If that happens, conservatives have lost everything for the next generation at least. Nothing short of divine intervention could save us from socialism at that point.
Second worst outcome: Romney wins
If Romney wins, it doesn't matter who controls the Congress. Socialism will progress, and fast. Romney will have no opposition from Republicans and Democrats will only oppose to push him even further to the left. And he will acquiesce. That's his MO. Worse, Republicans will rightly get the blame for every piece of socialist legislation that Romney signs, resulting in catastrophic defeats in 2014 and a loss of the presidency in 2016 to an even more radical Democrat commanding even more insuperable majorities in Congress than Obama did in 2008.
Least bad outcome: Obama wins with less than 50% of the vote, Republicans control Congress with solid majorities in each house.
This could happen with the emergence of a strong conservative third party candidate that bleeds votes from Romney, giving Obama a Clinton-style non-mandate victory. A strong conservative third party would also have the effect of energizing otherwise apathetic conservatives to come out and vote for conservative Republicans down-ticket, even while voting against Liberal Mitt on the top line. The resulting government produces only gridlock which keeps us in the fight with momentum leading into 2014 and 2016.
Given this, I have decided, for the first time in my life, to vote for a Third Party candidate for president in November. If no one with more national name recognition emerges, Virgil Goode will be getting my vote. I encourage others to think about it and do likewise.
Conversely, you could delude yourself into thinking that Romney isn't as bad as his record clearly shows him to be and spend your time, treasure and energy helping to elect an admitted "progressive" to the presidency. If you decide to do that, God bless you. But don't claim you weren't warned.
Agreed, and they will change both ways. Mainly we are all venting because we are all so damn frustrated, whichever side of the divide we are on.
Sleep.
Now.
*anthem*
*Indianhead test pattern*
>>You can stuff your leftist creep where the sun don’t shine. I’m voting for a conservative. <<
No you’re not.
You are voting for obama.
I am not a member of the Republican Party. Haven't been for 14 years now and I haven't seen any reason why I should affiliate myself with them again.
Voting for either Obama or Romney is morally repugnant to me, so I will vote for the strongest conservative on my ballot. If you think that is "promoting the re-election of Obama" I doubt there is anything I could say that would change your mind, nor do I have a desire to do so.
I posted to a like minded individual and really don't care to get in a deep discussion with someone who disagrees with my reasoning.
I am really sincere when I say, who you cast your vote for or against is absolutely none of my business. Please allow me the same courtesy. We, more than likely, both have earned it.
Snicker,...no..lol
I'm thinking folks who keep saying that probably aren't going to be around here that much longer.
>>The Buckley rule has helped the GOP-e keep a lid on the conservative movement for far too long and it only ever worked one way—when a moderate got the nomination. Whenever a conservative gets the nomination, the Buckley rule is forgotten. It’s long past time to kick it to the curb.<<
And your plan is so much better. Antoninus proclaims “Obama 2012!”
>>And might I remind you that Bill Buckley’s kid voted for Obama in ‘08... <<
Which means exactly nothing. My cat voted for Anderson in 1980. That didn’t reflect on my vote for Reagan.
When you're weighing options for 'least bad' and one of them is "President Obama," it's a no-brainer.
A lot of the differences in argument here I think reduce to two sides: One thinks the other underestimates how bad Obama will be; one thinks the other underestimates how bad Romney will be.
Tweaked tagline ...
My apologies then, but it is an open forum, so I hope you understand I assumed otherwise. I will of course try to remember in the future.
>>I’m thinking folks who keep saying that probably aren’t going to be around here that much longer.<<
It is skating on the edge but I did directly ping JR on a similar thread and he seemed OK even if he clearly couldn’t stomach Romney (and as I said upthread, it phsysically hurts my stomach much more than McCain ever did).
The sad reality is we are stuck with Romney. JR (and thus FR) will never endorse Romney — it is a bridge too far and I understand that. But realpoltik forces our hands in ways we would prefer not to. Even Rush has walked up to it and accepted it.
I won’t ask JR nor even FR to change its stance. It is like asking one to vomit twice because the purge felt good in the stomach.
But I won’t let a self-important yahoo make a stand without acknowledging the practical results of her stated position.
Elections have consequences.
If I ask you the time, don’t answer me by telling me how to build a birdhouse.
The last time a non-Republican, or non-democrat won an electoral vote was 1968, George Wallace.
FR favorite got 0.5% of the vote in 2000. Ross Perot did much better, but likely threw 1992 to Clinton.
Greens, Libertarians, and plenty of other 3rd party fantasies pass almost unnoticed by the voters.
Reality check is a good thing, from time to time. As always the next Potus will be a Republican or a democrat.
>>No, I’m not.<<
If you don’t think your vote for johnny b. goode or whomever is NOT a vote for obama then you don’t live in the real world.
Which explains a lot of your answers as well as the origination of this thread.
I thank you for creating a discussion thread that let a lot of us clarify the reality as opposed to the fantasy you and many of your kindred souls seem to inhabit. I am sorry Daddy didn’t ride in on his white steed to save you, but I must assume he knew someday you would have to stand up as a grown woman and defend your hill and your beans.
Good night — I do hope you sleep the sleep of the confident, knowing your decision will assist obama in holding his office (which I assume is your agenda). You have moved the puck down the ice admirably.
‘night
You're fooling yourself. It's a plunge into the political abyss.
Good luck and I hope the rocks aren't too jagged for ya.
It is my opinion, one that I share with Mark Levin, that we have a chance to support “our” Candidate in the Primary Elections, that is what they are for. Once the Primaries are over, the game changes.
Since “we” don't control the final Vote tallies, we either support the last man standing or we decide to acquiesce to our Political opponents. This Election is much more than Politics, and some here feel that the Nation will not survive Obama’s Reelection. That is just the way it is.
Choices will be made. My guy Newt is dropping out tomorrow, so I will make a symbolic Vote in the CA June Primary for Ron Paul. That is where symbolism will end for me though.
(And Yes, I understand that most of us here look at Romney as a Political opponent). We can influence Romney's Politics, just as we did with President Bush. We cannot influence Obama’s relentless attack on our Liberties.
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