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SEC. 31406. VEHICLE EVENT DATA RECORDERS, Senate Bill 1813 (Big Brother Watches Bill Passes Senate)
GovTrack ^ | Mar 14, 2012 | US Senate

Posted on 05/02/2012 11:16:14 AM PDT by xzins

SEC. 31406. VEHICLE EVENT DATA RECORDERS. (a) Mandatory Event Data Recorders-

(1) IN GENERAL- Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall revise part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, to require, beginning with model year 2015, that new passenger motor vehicles sold in the United States be equipped with an event data recorder that meets the requirements under that part.

(2) PENALTY- The violation of any provision under part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations--

(A) shall be deemed to be a violation of section 30112 of title 49, United States Code;

(B) shall be subject to civil penalties under section 30165(a) of that title; and

(C) shall not subject a manufacturer (as defined in section 30102(a)(5) of that title) to the requirements under section 30120 of that title.

(b) Limitations on Information Retrieval-

(1) OWNERSHIP OF DATA- Any data in an event data recorder required under part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, regardless of when the passenger motor vehicle in which it is installed was manufactured, is the property of the owner, or in the case of a leased vehicle, the lessee of the passenger motor vehicle in which the data recorder is installed.

(2) PRIVACY- Data recorded or transmitted by such a data recorder may not be retrieved by a person other than the owner or lessee of the motor vehicle in which the recorder is installed unless--

(A) a court authorizes retrieval of the information in furtherance of a legal proceeding;

(B) the owner or lessee consents to the retrieval of the information for any purpose, including the purpose of diagnosing, servicing, or repairing the motor vehicle;

(C) the information is retrieved pursuant to an investigation or inspection authorized under section 1131(a) or 30166 of title 49, United States Code, and the personally identifiable information of the owner, lessee, or driver of the vehicle and the vehicle identification number is not disclosed in connection with the retrieved information; or

(D) the information is retrieved for the purpose of determining the need for, or facilitating, emergency medical response in response to a motor vehicle crash.

(c) Report to Congress- Two years after the date of implementation of subsection (a), the Secretary shall study the safety impact and the impact on individual privacy of event data recorders in passenger motor vehicles and report its findings to the Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation of the Senate and the Committee on Energy and Commerce of the House of Representatives. The report shall include--

(1) the safety benefits gained from installation of event data recorders;

(2) the recommendations on what, if any, additional data the event data recorder should be modified to record;

(3) the additional safety benefit such information would yield;

(4) the estimated cost to manufacturers to implement the new enhancements;

(5) an analysis of how the information proposed to be recorded by an event data recorder conforms to applicable legal, regulatory, and policy requirements regarding privacy;

(6) a determination of the risks and effects of collecting and maintaining the information proposed to be recorded by an event data recorder;

(7) an examination and evaluation of the protections and alternative processes for handling information recorded by an event data recorder to mitigate potential privacy risks.

(d) Revised Requirements for Event Data Recorders- Based on the findings of the study under subsection (c), the Secretary shall initiate a rulemaking proceeding to revise part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations. The rule--

(1) shall require event data recorders to capture and store data related to motor vehicle safety covering a reasonable time period before, during, and after a motor vehicle crash or airbag deployment, including a rollover;

(2) shall require that data stored on such event data recorders be accessible, regardless of vehicle manufacturer or model, with commercially available equipment in a specified data format;

(3) shall establish requirements for preventing unauthorized access to the data stored on an event data recorder in order to protect the security, integrity, and authenticity of the data; and

(4) may require an interoperable data access port to facilitate universal accessibility and analysis.

(e) Disclosure of Existence and Purpose of Event Data Recorder- The rule issued under subsection (d) shall require that any owner’s manual or similar documentation provided to the first purchaser of a passenger motor vehicle for purposes other than resale--

(1) disclose that the vehicle is equipped with such a data recorder; and

(2) explain the purpose of the data recorder.

(f) Access to Event Data Recorders in Agency Investigations- Section 30166(c)(3)(C) of title 49, United States Code, is amended by inserting ‘, including any electronic data contained within the vehicle’s diagnostic system or event data recorder’ after ‘equipment.’

(g) Deadline for Rulemaking- The Secretary shall issue a final rule under subsection (d) not later than 4 years after the date of enactment of this Act.


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To: xzins

Just called Pete Olson’s office in both Washington and Sugar Land and told them I expected him to vote no. No one in either office was aware of any of the details of this bill. Pathetic! Just one of the reasons why I am glad he had someone running against him this time for whom I will be happy to vote.


41 posted on 05/02/2012 1:18:48 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: xzins

Sure, they can take it with a court order. Go ahead, it’s in that spare parts bin in the corner of the garage along with the other useless junk I removed from the vehicle :)


42 posted on 05/02/2012 1:18:56 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: xzins

CRASH DATA RECORDER TOOLS HERE:
http://www.boschdiagnostics.com/parts/cdr/CDR/Pages/CDR.aspx

Includes harnesses that convert your car’s EDR/CDR/PCM/ACM connectors to a standard D-Sub connector for connection to your laptop (or desktop, if you get an extension cable) computer’s serial I/O port.

Happy hunting!


43 posted on 05/02/2012 1:29:27 PM PDT by HKMk23 (GOPe 2012 MITT HAPPENS)
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To: xzins

ASSOCIATED SOFTWARE AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD HERE:
http://www.boschdiagnostics.com/software/pages/CDR_software.aspx

Prolly hafta hack it to run it unless you know a mech who’s already a certified subscriber. In which case, quit mucking around at Bosch Diagnostics; just slip your mech a c-note and use his tools.


44 posted on 05/02/2012 1:32:44 PM PDT by HKMk23 (GOPe 2012 MITT HAPPENS)
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To: xzins

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45 posted on 05/02/2012 2:17:33 PM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: xzins

Make no mistake about this.

This is the modern version of, “PAPERS PLEASE.”


46 posted on 05/02/2012 2:28:13 PM PDT by EBH (The redistribution of another man's money, does not create wealth for the "greater good.")
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To: Theoria

Oh wait, go back and read this again...after two years some beaurcrat is going to tighten the screws on this even more...

This is just another bill of slow tyranny coming into being. Two years from now...we have no real idea what life is going to be like in two years from now, now do we.

Are they anticipating a turn over of congress in 2014?

We need better than an election to stop this crap. The government needs to be served a cease and desist order from we the people. We need to stop them.


47 posted on 05/02/2012 2:33:39 PM PDT by EBH (The redistribution of another man's money, does not create wealth for the "greater good.")
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To: xzins
After reading the bill thoroughly, and reading nearly every response here's what came to my mind.

Like identity theft, and credit card theft which is running rampant I can see the HACKERS finding and selling ways to access and adjust the data recorded by the boxes

I've see SEVERAL DRM - Digital Rights Management codes hacked and broken faster than they could get a foothold. If this black box is computer oriented it will be compromised and accessed probably sooner rather than later.

48 posted on 05/02/2012 2:53:51 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: BenLurkin

The law does not prohibit removal of the device by the owner, merely that it must be sold with the device installed.


49 posted on 05/02/2012 4:40:36 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Grams A

Nice work, Grams.

It’s time to put the pressure on all those we elect, especially those who were elected with Tea Party support, to make sure they personally READ EVERY bill they vote yes on.

If that’s too much work for them then they don’t deserve to be in office.


50 posted on 05/02/2012 6:19:59 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics (Romney 2012 is McCain 2008. No more RINOs! It was good while it lasted, Sarah.)
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To: Jewbacca
the law does not prohibit removal

Not sure about that J. It reads:

the Secretary shall revise part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, to require, beginning with model year 2015, that new passenger motor vehicles sold in the United States be equipped with an event data recorder that meets the requirements under that part

It seems that it might depend on what part 563 of title 49 requires.

51 posted on 05/02/2012 7:12:37 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Obama Disses the Operators Who Took Out Bin Laden in Afghan!)
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To: xzins

Fellow technologically inclined Americans, do you see?


52 posted on 05/02/2012 9:24:44 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: xzins
It seems that it might depend on what part 563 of title 49 requires.

563.3 (Requirements:) Electronic Data Recorders
Each vehicle equipped with an EDR must meet the requirements specified in §563.7 for data elements, §563.8 for data format, §563.9 for data capture, §563.10 for crash test performance and survivability, and §563.11 for information in owner's manual.

563.7 - You'll want to check out Table 1.

563.9 Data Capture:
The EDR must capture and record the data elements for events in accordance with the following conditions and circumstances:
(a) In a frontal air bag deployment crash, capture and record the current deployment data. In a side or side curtain/tube air bag deployment crash, where lateral delta-V is recorded by the EDR, capture and record the current deployment data. The memory for the air bag deployment event must be locked to prevent any future overwriting of the data.
(b) In an event that does not meet the criteria in §563.9(a), capture and record the current event data, up to two events, subject to the following conditions:
(1) If an EDR non-volatile memory buffer void of previous-event data is available, the current event data is recorded in the buffer.
(2) If an EDR non-volatile memory buffer void of previous-event data is not available, the manufacturer may choose to either overwrite any previous event data that does not deploy an air bag with the current event data, or to not record the current event data.
(3) EDR buffers containing previous frontal, side, or side curtain/tube air bag deployment-event data must not be overwritten by the current event data.
.10's just about crash performance and .11 covers information in the owner's manual.
53 posted on 05/03/2012 4:57:00 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Renderofveils; Jewbacca
This section is troublesome:

§ 563.6 Requirements for vehicles. top Each vehicle equipped with an EDR must meet the requirements specified in §563.7 for data elements, §563.8 for data format, §563.9 for data capture, §563.10 for crash test performance and survivability, and §563.11 for information in owner's manual.

I can see a government lawyer easily construing that underlined section to mean that the vehicle is ALWAYS required to have that capability; ergo, that capability cannot be removed.

It does not say "cannot be removed", but saying "must meet the requirements" is very troublesome.

54 posted on 05/03/2012 5:30:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Obama Disses the Operators Who Took Out Bin Laden in Afghan!)
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To: xzins
I can see a government lawyer easily construing that underlined section to mean that the vehicle is ALWAYS required to have that capability; ergo, that capability cannot be removed.

Yep. Done rather simply by arguing the definition of "equipped" as meaning "initially installed on the vehicle" instead of "currently installed."
55 posted on 05/03/2012 5:39:16 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Grams A

Texas state law regarding EDRs

http://www.crashdataservices.net/files/Texas.pdf


56 posted on 05/03/2012 5:41:17 AM PDT by deport (.............God Bless Texas............)
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To: xzins

The long term goal is to tax you directly on how much you drive.


57 posted on 05/03/2012 6:09:05 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
tax...how much you drive

I agree, Redgolum. If you look at this Para 49, 563:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&rgn=div5&view=text&node=49:6.1.2.3.31&idno=49

The tables in that paragraph include everything but testing for your blood type. They'll be able to tax more than your miles. They'll be able to tax your hours and minutes, your locations, probably even the air you use.

58 posted on 05/03/2012 6:16:57 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Obama Disses the Operators Who Took Out Bin Laden in Afghan!)
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To: Venturer

You posted, in part: Wait until the Insurance companies start refusing to pay for your accident because you were in the wrong.
Hit a deer doing 10 mile over the limit. Tough jellybeans the Insurance won’t pay off.
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Not sure how I feel about the event recorders. They can also back up a safe driver’s story in the face of lies by another driver in an accident. But they have to be accurate.

Are we saying, by opposing the recorders, that we OUGHT to be able to drive unsafely and still have insurance cover our accidents? Should the relationship between driver and insurance company not be market-controlled? That’s what most conservatives believe in other contexts. Let me shop for a policy that will “give” me 10 mph over the limit (or buyer a rider for that), etc.

In a way this reminds me of the attacks against Linda Tripp for recording her phone calls with Lewinsky. The dems were not so much mad about the recording per se. Rather, they hated that they could not effectively destroy Tripp’s testimony. If event recorders are accurate, shouldn’t we support them— except for use as admissions by the government, I have big problems with that.


59 posted on 05/03/2012 6:23:31 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: NCLaw441

Well of course all of us are perfect and never make mistakes ,so why not have something monitoring us 24/7.


60 posted on 05/03/2012 10:07:01 AM PDT by Venturer
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