Skip to comments.SEC. 31406. VEHICLE EVENT DATA RECORDERS, Senate Bill 1813 (Big Brother Watches Bill Passes Senate)
Posted on 05/02/2012 11:16:14 AM PDT by xzins
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Just called Pete Olson’s office in both Washington and Sugar Land and told them I expected him to vote no. No one in either office was aware of any of the details of this bill. Pathetic! Just one of the reasons why I am glad he had someone running against him this time for whom I will be happy to vote.
Sure, they can take it with a court order. Go ahead, it’s in that spare parts bin in the corner of the garage along with the other useless junk I removed from the vehicle :)
CRASH DATA RECORDER TOOLS HERE:
Includes harnesses that convert your car’s EDR/CDR/PCM/ACM connectors to a standard D-Sub connector for connection to your laptop (or desktop, if you get an extension cable) computer’s serial I/O port.
ASSOCIATED SOFTWARE AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD HERE:
Prolly hafta hack it to run it unless you know a mech who’s already a certified subscriber. In which case, quit mucking around at Bosch Diagnostics; just slip your mech a c-note and use his tools.
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Make no mistake about this.
This is the modern version of, “PAPERS PLEASE.”
Oh wait, go back and read this again...after two years some beaurcrat is going to tighten the screws on this even more...
This is just another bill of slow tyranny coming into being. Two years from now...we have no real idea what life is going to be like in two years from now, now do we.
Are they anticipating a turn over of congress in 2014?
We need better than an election to stop this crap. The government needs to be served a cease and desist order from we the people. We need to stop them.
Like identity theft, and credit card theft which is running rampant I can see the HACKERS finding and selling ways to access and adjust the data recorded by the boxes
I've see SEVERAL DRM - Digital Rights Management codes hacked and broken faster than they could get a foothold. If this black box is computer oriented it will be compromised and accessed probably sooner rather than later.
The law does not prohibit removal of the device by the owner, merely that it must be sold with the device installed.
Nice work, Grams.
It’s time to put the pressure on all those we elect, especially those who were elected with Tea Party support, to make sure they personally READ EVERY bill they vote yes on.
If that’s too much work for them then they don’t deserve to be in office.
Not sure about that J. It reads:
the Secretary shall revise part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, to require, beginning with model year 2015, that new passenger motor vehicles sold in the United States be equipped with an event data recorder that meets the requirements under that part
It seems that it might depend on what part 563 of title 49 requires.
Fellow technologically inclined Americans, do you see?
§ 563.6 Requirements for vehicles. top Each vehicle equipped with an EDR must meet the requirements specified in §563.7 for data elements, §563.8 for data format, §563.9 for data capture, §563.10 for crash test performance and survivability, and §563.11 for information in owner's manual.
I can see a government lawyer easily construing that underlined section to mean that the vehicle is ALWAYS required to have that capability; ergo, that capability cannot be removed.
It does not say "cannot be removed", but saying "must meet the requirements" is very troublesome.
Texas state law regarding EDRs
The long term goal is to tax you directly on how much you drive.
I agree, Redgolum. If you look at this Para 49, 563:
The tables in that paragraph include everything but testing for your blood type. They'll be able to tax more than your miles. They'll be able to tax your hours and minutes, your locations, probably even the air you use.
You posted, in part: Wait until the Insurance companies start refusing to pay for your accident because you were in the wrong.
Hit a deer doing 10 mile over the limit. Tough jellybeans the Insurance wont pay off.
Not sure how I feel about the event recorders. They can also back up a safe driver’s story in the face of lies by another driver in an accident. But they have to be accurate.
Are we saying, by opposing the recorders, that we OUGHT to be able to drive unsafely and still have insurance cover our accidents? Should the relationship between driver and insurance company not be market-controlled? That’s what most conservatives believe in other contexts. Let me shop for a policy that will “give” me 10 mph over the limit (or buyer a rider for that), etc.
In a way this reminds me of the attacks against Linda Tripp for recording her phone calls with Lewinsky. The dems were not so much mad about the recording per se. Rather, they hated that they could not effectively destroy Tripp’s testimony. If event recorders are accurate, shouldn’t we support them— except for use as admissions by the government, I have big problems with that.
Well of course all of us are perfect and never make mistakes ,so why not have something monitoring us 24/7.