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Tom Hoefling: "Mitt Romney is still a pro-choice democrat, and admits it on his own website"
Tom Hoefling for President 2012 ^ | May 2, 2012 | Tom Hoefling

Posted on 05/02/2012 11:22:53 AM PDT by EternalVigilance

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1 posted on 05/02/2012 11:23:02 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance

Every time I think that I can hold my hurl and vote for the vapid RINOmneydork, I find another example of his RINOness.

Sorry, this is the last straw. I have already changed my affiliation from R to Independent, and will have to just not cast a vote for president at all if the soon to be extinct Republicans insist on nominating this appalling example of utter dorkiness.


2 posted on 05/02/2012 11:26:56 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote
Good riddance to you then. If others follow you, we will have Obama for 4 more years. The choice is between Obama and Romney. Take you pick. I will take ANYONE over Obama, so that leaves Romney.
3 posted on 05/02/2012 11:29:10 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: HwyChile

Hwy Chile - There have been a lot of odd posts by strangers here today. Anti Mormon, Romney is a Leftist, etc... Me thinks “Da Coyote” may be just another OBAMA TROLL, Ignore him


4 posted on 05/02/2012 11:32:22 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: HwyChile
The choice is between Obama and Romney.

As far as I'm concerned, this isn't so much about choosing between political candidates as it is about punishing Obama. His wicked actions in office must be punished and be seen to be punished - with an electoral defeat. Myth might or might not be an apostate, but he hasn't actually done anything to us yet. Obama has.

5 posted on 05/02/2012 11:34:54 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: EternalVigilance

Could you get a link to Romney’s web site where he says he is pro-choice? It’s hard to read an audio file.


6 posted on 05/02/2012 11:37:00 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: HwyChile

I note that you have stipulated to the fact that Mitt Romney is a judicial supremacist, anti-republican, pro-choice, democrat.

And you think I should deploy my sacred franchise in support of one of those, right?

That’s what you’re saying?


7 posted on 05/02/2012 11:37:13 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: HwyChile
Romney is a Rino.

Been there, done that.

Obama is a pure Marxist. Had enough of that.

So the choice is a partial conservative (fiscal) and a full blown classical Marxist. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

I wonder how much of these “Romney is really a (insert your phobia here)” post are by Obama supporters trying to make people mad enough to stay home.

8 posted on 05/02/2012 11:41:24 AM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
You can go find it yourself. I'm not propagating links for a judicial supremacist, anti-republican, pro-choice, democrat.

But, here's the text that is referenced in the audio:

Mitt Romney, 1994:

“I believe that abortion should be safe and legal in this country. I have since the time that my mom took that position when she ran in 1970 as a US Senate candidate. I believe that since Roe v. Wade has been the law for 20 years, that we should sustain and support it, and I sustain and support that law, and the right of a woman to make that choice.”

Mitt Romney, May 2012:

"Mitt believes that life begins at conception and wishes that the laws of our nation reflected that view. But while the nation remains so divided, he believes that the right next step is for the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade – a case of blatant judicial activism that took a decision that should be left to the people and placed it in the hands of unelected judges. With Roe overturned, states will be empowered through the democratic process to determine their own abortion laws and not have them dictated by judicial mandate."

Here's the text from the Roe vs. Wade majority opinion:

"The appellee and certain amici argue that the fetus is a 'person' within the language and meaning of the Fourteenth Amendment. In support of this, they outline at length and in detail the well known facts of fetal development. If this suggestion of personhood is established, the appellant's case, of course, collapses, for the fetus' right to life would then be guaranteed specifically by the Amendment."

-- Justice Harry A. Blackmun, Roe vs. Wade, 1973

9 posted on 05/02/2012 11:41:36 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: HwyChile

Romney IS Obama.

Romney gave us Obama.

Romney supports OBAMA.

NO TO ROMNEY. NO TO ROMNEYCARE.

NO TO ROMNEYDEATHPANELS. NO TO ROMNEY-LIES.


10 posted on 05/02/2012 11:41:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: BigEdLB
Thanks for that excellent advice. We either all get behind the only choice against Obama or we get Obama for another 4 years. It does not get any simplier than that. Everything else, including everything negative about Romney, does not matter. The vetting is over.
11 posted on 05/02/2012 11:41:58 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: BigEdLB
Thanks for that excellent advice. We either all get behind the only choice against Obama or we get Obama for another 4 years. It does not get any simpler than that. Everything else, including everything negative about Romney, does not matter. The vetting is over.
12 posted on 05/02/2012 11:42:25 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: EternalVigilance
Who cares? It is over. Romney or Obama. Those are the only two choices. If you don't like Romeny, go vote for Obama and get off this board. You stink like a liberal democrat.
13 posted on 05/02/2012 11:44:50 AM PDT by HwyChile
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To: HwyChile
You seem to have forgotten how TEAM ROMNEY put the Imam in.

Milt the Ineligible RINO:
“Take out the conservatives. Remove any woman whbo voted Republican.”


FLASHBACK:

The McCain/Palin ticket was up ++4 to 10 pts
in some polls, days prior to Election 2008.
So rather than helping the GOP, Romney and
TeamROMNEY and the RNME (Republican National Media Establishment)
decided …to attack Gov. Palin to throw Election2008.

Romney, and the Van der Sloot RNME RINOs for Obama in 2008

Late in October, The American Spectator's The Prowler revealed:
"Former Mitt Romney presidential campaign staffers…
have been involved in spreading anti-Palin spin to reporters, seeking to diminish her standing after the election.
'Sarah Palin is a lightweight, she won't be the first, not even the third, person people will think of when it comes to 2012,'
says one former Romney aide…
'The only serious candidate ready to challenge to lead the Republican Party is Mitt Romney.
"Some former Romney aides were behind the recent leaks to media, including CNN, that Governor Sarah Palin was a 'diva' and was going off message intentionally."


The Palmetto Scoop reported: "One of the first stories to hit the national airwaves was
the claim of a major internal strife between close McCain aides and the folks handling his running mate Sarah Palin."
"I’m told by very good sources that this was indeed the case and that a rift had developed, but it was between Palin’s people and the staffers brought on from the failed presidential campaign of former Gov. Mitt Romney, not McCain aides."
"The sources said nearly 80 percent of Romney’s former staff was absorbed by McCain and these individuals were responsible for what amounts to a premeditated, last-minute sabotage of Palin."
… aides loyal to Romney inside the McCain campaign, said The Scoop, reportedly saw
that Palin would be a serious contender for the Republican nomination in 2012 or 2016, which made her a threat to another presidential quest by Romney.


"These staffers are now out trying to finish her off ….hoping it would ingratiate themselves with Mitt Romney."


"Who's the Palin Leaker from the McCain Campaign?
National Review Online The publication of a Vanity Fair profile of Sarah Palin
appears to have opened old wounds in the McCain campaign.
... the source of the “Diva” leak was Nicolle Wallace’s husband."


"Peeking Out From the McCain Wreckage: Mitt Romney"

"Someone's got to say it: IS MITT ROMNEY RESPONSIBLE FOR OBAMA'S VICTORY?"

"Vanity: Team Romney Sabotaged Palin and Continuing to Do So?"

"Romney Supporters Trashing Palin"

"Romney advisors sniping at Palin?"



14 posted on 05/02/2012 11:45:44 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: HwyChile; Jim Robinson; ConjunctionJunction; Al B.; SolidWood; Leisler; greyfoxx39; ...
HwyChile: (presumptuously claiming Free Republic is a Romney-ONLY web site)
" Those are the only two choices. If you don't like Romeny, go vote for Obama and get off this board.
You stink like a liberal democrat."


Who elected you 'King', HwyChile?

15 posted on 05/02/2012 11:49:28 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: HwyChile
Who cares?

Anyone who still cares about the foundational principles of the republic, and the explicit, imperative requirements of the Constitution, and the oath to support and defend it.

You're a poster child for what it means to be a Romney Republican.

Principles? Unalienable rights? The Constitution? "Who cares?"

16 posted on 05/02/2012 11:49:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: EternalVigilance; HwyChile
I note that you have stipulated to the fact that Mitt Romney is a judicial supremacist, anti-republican, pro-choice, democrat. And you think I should deploy my sacred franchise in support of one of those, right? That’s what you’re saying?

Excellent phrasing...(and point)

May quote you here in the future

17 posted on 05/02/2012 11:50:18 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Zhang Fei
I am with you. I am more interested in punishing Obama than I am punishing the GOP.

I want that cocky smirk off Obama's face.


18 posted on 05/02/2012 11:52:08 AM PDT by Kinder Gentler Machinegun Hand
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To: HwyChile; jimrob; BlackElk
If you don't like Romeny, go vote for Obama and get off this board

It is not over. Romney may have a killer macaca moment, he may develop a debilitating illness, he may be subject to a personal family emergency, an Eagleton-type skeleton may fall out of the closet, he may be on the wrong end of a nutjob's bullet, a revolt of conservatives at the convention may force rules changes.

As far as being on the wrong board. You do realize that the owner of this board is completely anti-Romney, and has made it clear that Romney won't get his vote. Perhaps YOU are on the wrong board. I will let the admins decide.
19 posted on 05/02/2012 11:53:25 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: fireforeffect
So the choice is a partial conservative (fiscal)...

Really? Where? When? And are we supposed to pretend fee increases are separate from tax increases?

Business "savvy" is a different animal from conservatism. Romney is a liberal who has run businesses. I think a lot of folks mistake business experience for "fiscal conservatism," forgetting all about liberal business icons like Warren Buffett and Donald Trump.

Romney's political philosophy, regardless of flip or flop, is grounded in control justified by the state to manage people fiscally and morally. It's in his record. You want to see the "future" with Romney, look at his past.

20 posted on 05/02/2012 11:55:57 AM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent * By the way, Ted, voting for Romney is voting stupid.)
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To: Colofornian

Watch how few of them even try any more to deny that Romney is a pro-choice democrat. It’s remarkable.

Romney Republicans have stripped all meaning away from the word “republican.”


21 posted on 05/02/2012 11:56:03 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: fireforeffect

“I wonder how much of these “Romney is really a (insert your phobia here)” post are by Obama supporters”

Romney is for gay marriage. I wonder how many of you Romney (insert your own sexual perversion) are homosexuals.*


22 posted on 05/02/2012 12:02:11 PM PDT by tumblindice (*FR's Class of 2004: `On the Down Low for Mitt')
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To: fireforeffect
So the choice is a partial conservative (fiscal)...

No, Romney is a full-blown socialist. He pushed through the model for ObamaCare.

I note that you have stipulated to the fact that Mitt Romney is a judicial supremacist, anti-republican, pro-choice, democrat.

And you think I should deploy my sacred franchise in support of one of those, right?

That’s what you’re saying?

23 posted on 05/02/2012 12:02:58 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: EternalVigilance

If memory serves and I read it correctly:

You are the “Tom Hoefling for President 2012” in this post.

Correct?


24 posted on 05/02/2012 12:04:19 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: HwyChile
The choice is between Obama and Romney.

Wrong..there is a third choice...NOA...because Romney nor Obama are superior to the other.

Definition Choice:

...Choose, select, pick, elect, prefer indicate a decision that one or more possibilities are to be regarded more highly than others. ....Choose suggests a decision on one of a number of possibilities because of its apparent superiority.

25 posted on 05/02/2012 12:05:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: EternalVigilance
Watch how few of them even try any more to deny that Romney is a pro-choice democrat. It’s remarkable. Romney Republicans have stripped all meaning away from the word “republican.”

Yeah...I can hear their ancestors now...if any of them were in America in the 1770s...

Taxation without representation?...Well, I'd rather vote with the Brits than a dead future pol like a wannabe president like George Washington

They've learned well from the Democrats: Sell your kids & grandkids down river; mortgage their future; refuse to bite the bullet now (politically & morally); don't make a stand anywhere; relativistically compromise and capitulate everywhere 'cause ya know, ya gotta have that (r) place @ the table!

26 posted on 05/02/2012 12:06:02 PM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: Colofornian

You’ve nailed it.


27 posted on 05/02/2012 12:08:51 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: HwyChile

“You stink like a liberal democrat.”

Ann “Sticks” Coulter is that you? That sweet talk doesn’t work with me anymore, babe.
You Romney fellators make me sick.


28 posted on 05/02/2012 12:09:16 PM PDT by tumblindice (*FR's Class of 2004: `On the Down Low for Mitt')
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To: EternalVigilance

“I think the old standby definitions of who votes for which party have been blown away in this campaign. I think people recognize that I’m not a partisan Republican—that I’m someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.”
-Mitt Romney (2002)

Video of the quote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMcjJEXt9To

Obama continued: “I am somebody who is no doubt progressive. I believe in a tax code that we need to make more fair. I believe in universal health care. I believe in making college affordable. I believe in paying our teachers more money. I believe in early childhood education. I believe in a whole lot of things that make me progressive.”
-Barack Obama
http://www.progressive.org/mag/nichols0109.html


29 posted on 05/02/2012 12:12:18 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: D-fendr

Yes, he is running for President...rather neat we have such one on our threads....what I’ve read on his site certainly indicates he’s a Conservative in every sense of the word.

You might visit his site ...interesting and informative with links to other good sites as well. Alan Keyes for one...though he didn’t win nobody could argue Keyes wasn’t spot on in his positions.

I remember Keyes running...it was exciting to see him go as far as he did, many wouldn’t have thought that possible. He was more popular than most realized. He had a strong message no doubt and still has interesting things to say today.


30 posted on 05/02/2012 12:13:03 PM PDT by caww
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Good post.


31 posted on 05/02/2012 12:15:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: caww; EternalVigilance

Yeah. Really neat.

And neat how Keyes lost to Obama too.

Tom is campaigning here against Romney. I’m wondering why he didn’t run and campaign against him in the primary and save us all then.


32 posted on 05/02/2012 12:15:44 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: tumblindice

It’s Romney or Obama. How much dumber can you get? If you don’t like Romeny, go vote for Obama.


33 posted on 05/02/2012 12:19:47 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: EternalVigilance

Republicans are running a pro Romney-care candidate versus a pro Obama-care candidate..

What are “they” thinking?..

Are they thinking?... What are they thinking about?..
Could be the republican hierarchy wants Universal Health-care..

Occams Razor demands that they Do....
Are republicans loyal to the pack like dogs....
Subservient dogs.. generally this may be true..

Democrats are indeed drones in the collective, in the Hive..
Could be republicans are like wolves slaves to the pack...

You may be either in the Hive or the Pack.. What are you?..
Times running out for you to decide...


34 posted on 05/02/2012 12:22:00 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: D-fendr
Tom is campaigning here against Romney.

It's a free country. And it's Jim Robinson's website. Apparently you're not him, so I won't sweat it.

I’m wondering why he didn’t run and campaign against him in the primary and save us all then.

Well, we can't leave you wondering, now can we?

It's because I figured out beyond any shadow of doubt four years ago that the Republican presidential nominating process is now completely corrupt, completely rigged against conservatives and conservatism, and completely given over to the control of the liberal media and the liberal money interests.

Pretty simple really.

35 posted on 05/02/2012 12:22:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: hosepipe

I made my decision four years ago.


36 posted on 05/02/2012 12:24:00 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: D-fendr

I don’t see him as campaigning here at all...he’s offered reasonable and well thought out opinions worth the read.

For that matter... we sure as heck see many Romney
Supporters here campaigning for the Romney vote!!! I’ll take all conservative opinion over those!

Besides he’s been posting here ever since I’ve been here...I checked...so it’s not like people aren’t aware. I’m glad he’s here....others can just scroll by if they choose...as any other poster they might not want to engage with.

Choice...is a wonderful thing!


37 posted on 05/02/2012 12:25:09 PM PDT by caww
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To: HwyChile; Jim Robinson
If you don't like Romeny, go vote for Obama and get off this board.

Wow! Hey, Jim! We've got a self-proclaimed FreeRepublic cop - and he's telling anyone who doesn't like Romney to take a hike!

38 posted on 05/02/2012 12:25:09 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: D-fendr
And neat how Keyes lost to Obama too.

Yeah, well, part of the reason for that is that he just couldn't overcome the opposition of those who have now become Romney Republicans.

This is a process we're going through, you see.

But, eventually, the truth will out, as they say.

39 posted on 05/02/2012 12:27:03 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks. You figured out you couldn’t win. We should all start our own parties and be our own nominee.

Seriously: if you can’t beat Romney in a primary, you darn sure can’t beat him in the general.

Also, it would be nice if you campaigned against Obama too, if only to show “balance.”

What’s your strategy for beating Virgil Goode?


40 posted on 05/02/2012 12:27:09 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: HwyChile
If you like abortionist, homosexualist, gun-control-freak, big government socialist authors of communist health-care plans, go vote for r0mney (that's exactly what he is) and get off this forum. You stink like a fascist. (That's another good description of r0mney.)

You disgust me, n00b.

41 posted on 05/02/2012 12:27:37 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I approve your message. Down with Romney!

42 posted on 05/02/2012 12:28:31 PM PDT by tnlibertarian (I <3 PEJSWDTDSOPC)
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To: D-fendr

I’ve been fighting against Obama since before most folks ever heard of him.

And I’m not worried about Virgil Goode.


43 posted on 05/02/2012 12:29:04 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: EternalVigilance
part of the reason for that is that he just couldn't overcome the opposition

That's the whole reason. I'm just excerpting the factual part.

When you lose an election, the cheapest response is to blame the party, second cheapest, blame the voters. You seem to be combining the two.

44 posted on 05/02/2012 12:29:30 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: COBOL2Java
Well go vote for Obama then if you are so conservative that you cannot vote for the only other candidate who will be running against Obama. What do you propose we do? Should we just all stay home and let Obama win? LOL. Are you really that dumb.
45 posted on 05/02/2012 12:29:35 PM PDT by HwyChile
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To: HwyChile; EternalVigilance; TheOldLady
If you don't like Romeny, go vote for Obama and get off this board.

Seriously? You just told EV to "get off this board" because EV doesn't like Romney.

Seriously?

46 posted on 05/02/2012 12:29:50 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: HwyChile

This is a conservative site..not a Republican site...Romney is not conservative....sounds like you need to be on a Republican site where you can push Romney all you want. You know you will be met with resistance here.

As the owner has stated...”We are the Resistance”. ...FR does not vote for socialists.


47 posted on 05/02/2012 12:30:05 PM PDT by caww
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To: tnlibertarian

I note that you have stipulated to the fact that Mitt Romney is a judicial supremacist, anti-republican, pro-choice, democrat.


48 posted on 05/02/2012 12:30:22 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Obama/Romney math: 0+0=0)
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To: EternalVigilance
I’ve been fighting against Obama

Be nice to see that again in some of your threads.

And I’m not worried about Virgil Goode.

Why not?

49 posted on 05/02/2012 12:31:08 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
We all know that you are a liberal democrat trying to stir the pot against Romeny in hopes that people won't vote for him so that your guy, Obama, will win. We aren't that dumb. Nice try though.
50 posted on 05/02/2012 12:32:53 PM PDT by HwyChile
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