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How does one justify a vote for Romney?
www.freerepublic.com ^ | May 2, 2012 | NoRedTape

Posted on 05/02/2012 12:08:22 PM PDT by NoRedTape

With the foisted increased possibility of Mittens buying becoming the Nominee, can you actually justify voting for him in the general election?

This is what I am truly curious to find out.

Virgil Goode info" http://www.goodeforpresident2012.com/

Gary Johnson info: http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/about

Personally, at this moment, I simply cannot vote for Romney under any circumstance. I am also convinced that if Romney runs against Obama, Romney will lose massively.

I'd really be interested in your feedback, especially in terms of how you potentially plan to justify voting for Romney if he indeed becomes the Nominee.

Thank you,

NRT

 

 

 


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To: HwyChile
No it would not because that is not true.

Are you ignorant of the basic #1 tenet of the mormon religion or just wanting to call names?

I know Mormons and they don't go around attacking other religions like you so called southern white trash Christians do.

You are correct. They are far mor subtle than that and I wasn't attacking anything, just stating a fact.

It really gives the south a bad name that you people exist.

Who the heck is "you people"?

151 posted on 05/02/2012 1:37:14 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RayBob
Virgil Goode or Gary Johnson? Are you serious? They will get fewer votes than Perot...

When thinking in terms of votes that *count* you're actually wrong.Perot got precisely zero Electoral Votes.You can't get any fewer than zero.

152 posted on 05/02/2012 1:37:53 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Unlike Mrs Obama,I've Been Proud Of This Country My *Entire* Life!)
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To: NoRedTape

Romney, the corporatist king, the TARP lover, needs to give us a reason to vote for him.


153 posted on 05/02/2012 1:38:22 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: RayBob

Do you want to have a chance to save one of the major parties, before they both become completely socialist in nature? Because a Romney win would forever cement the GOP as a socialist party...and then indeed the only way out is a Third Party, whereas if the GOP gets their wake-up call now, by conservatives making a stand, they may still have a chance to be saved.


154 posted on 05/02/2012 1:40:00 PM PDT by dfwgator (Don't wake up in a roadside ditch. Get rid of Romney.)
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To: onedoug
"Choose the lesser of two evils."

....but, isn't that still choosing evil?

155 posted on 05/02/2012 1:40:30 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: dfwgator

>Because a Romney win would forever cement the GOP as a socialist party

B.S.


156 posted on 05/02/2012 1:41:12 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: NoRedTape
Justification based upon reality rather than wishful thinking.

The President for the next four years is either going to be Romney or 0bama.

You can cry about it, stamp your feet, hold your breath and take your toys and go home if you wish - but that is the reality.

It is either Romney or 0bama.

157 posted on 05/02/2012 1:42:28 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to DC to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Tenacious 1
Since I am against name calling, I will not call you an asshat...

You're not going to call me a what?

...for suggesting that you know anything about what an individual that you never met believes about someone elses religion that you also do not know.

Are you also ignorant of the #1 basic tenet of mormonism? Romney is pretty high up on the food chain of that group. Are you suggesting that he does not believe that?

Now I'm really pissed that you put me in a position that requires me, as a Christian, to defend Romney. But I still won't call you any names.

That was clear from the start of your little rant...LOL!

158 posted on 05/02/2012 1:43:20 PM PDT by houeto (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: NoRedTape

How does one justify a vote for Romney?

Because it just doesn’t matter anymore?


159 posted on 05/02/2012 1:44:29 PM PDT by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll eventually get what you deserve)
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To: HwyChile

“smart people” ???

Is that code for “fearful and lacking in faith in God” ???

Is that a term for “we dont know what to do so we’ll do anything the cool kids are doing” ??

Is there a bit of “we didnt see this coming and we werent prepared” ???

SMART PEOPLE

OK


160 posted on 05/02/2012 1:46:22 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Strategerist
1) Did you vote for Perot in 1992?

No. I "held my nose" and voted for Bush. Guess what, sparky? All the Republican Party establishment knows is that I voted for Bush. They don't know or care about the "nose holding" rhetoric. All they care about is us peons voting for whatever turd they serve up.

2) If so, do you regret doing so?

You didn't direct that question to me, but I'll answer anyway. Yes, I do regret voting for Bush. The second time ... the first time (1988) I believed in good faith that he had learned to govern as a conservative. I was wrong. In 1992, I should have had the guts to vote with my middle finger.

161 posted on 05/02/2012 1:47:22 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: NoRedTape

Yes, but big difference exists between even evil. It is like choosing between an unarmed burglar or the Carr Brothers who in addition to breaking into the home, also tortured for hours and then murdered for the fun of it.


162 posted on 05/02/2012 1:48:49 PM PDT by Jane Austen (Boycott the Philadelphia Eagles!)
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To: NoRedTape

Voting for Romney would be the diplomatic thing to do, diplomacy being the art of say “Nice doggie!” while you look for a rock.


163 posted on 05/02/2012 1:50:32 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Jane Austen

I have my doubts that Romney is evil. He’s a politician, that’s all. Obama his crew, another story.


164 posted on 05/02/2012 1:52:05 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: NoRedTape
Will I vote for Romney?

Will I condemn those who decide that their best option is to vote for him?

Will I cheer for news that indicates Obama is beating him?

My answer is a resounding NO to all of the above.

166 posted on 05/02/2012 1:53:39 PM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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To: HwyChile

Time for you to haul your liberal/progressive-pushing ass on down the hiway, chum.

bye


167 posted on 05/02/2012 1:53:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: NoRedTape; All

I know this really isn’t what you’re wanting, an honest answer from someone who plans to vote for the only ELECTABLE choice against Obama, but I want to answer anyway:

1. I remember Reagan not abandoning the Republicans when it was knee deep in RINOs: Ford, Nixon, Rockefellers, etc. He worked within to change it and supported the party even when it wasn’t as conservative as it should be.

2. I also remember Carter. Obama is worse than Carter.

3. I am convinced by some on our side (Coulter, Cain, Cheney) who believe Romney will do a better job than many of us think—and who are certain he will be better than Obama.


168 posted on 05/02/2012 1:56:22 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: HwyChile

Now, you have done it. I was born in MS and have lived in AL since 1966. I am not voting for Mitt because he is a liberal. He could worship polka dots for all I care. That would not change the fact that he IS a liberal. I held my nose the last time and I will not do that again. It probably does not matter in this state since it is Republican.


169 posted on 05/02/2012 1:58:54 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: NoRedTape

There used to be a lot of “darkest before the dawn” type thinking, to whit: When the left finally exposes itself, people will be so appalled they’ll come around to the conservative viewpoint.

Well, folks, it ain’t darkest yet - it will be when Obama gets re-elected. Then you’ll see the statists come out full force with their freak flag flyin’.

And STILL people won’t see the light.

So, long story short, I’ll probably end up voting for Romney because he ain’t Obama.

Our only hope is to try and put as much pressure as we can on Romney to push the conservative agenda.

And putting conservatives into Congress and local spots is our best shot at that.


170 posted on 05/02/2012 2:00:37 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Tennessee Nana

“The white trash bigotry of Willie Mitty will keep him from the black vote...”

Somewhere in that statement is the implication that blacks will vote for a Republican candidate that is “inclusive”.If you are banking your hopes on the black vote, you obviously have a weather calender that denotes the cold days in hell.


171 posted on 05/02/2012 2:01:14 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: nathanbedford
I'm voting for the survival of the country not for the reform of a political party.

A vote for Mitt will not be a vote for the survival of our Republic. Mitt would not try to turn our Republic towards Liberty. Mitt will grow government.

We are on an unstoppable path towards radical Socialism.

Liberty can flower again only after the left and RINOs push the government to the point of "essential" collapse.

172 posted on 05/02/2012 2:02:02 PM PDT by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: nathanbedford
I'm voting for the survival of the country not for the reform of a political party.

Amen! Just think about it --- Barack Obama, 4 more years, what could possibly go wrong?

I am heartened to see a lot of people on this thread that have decided that the future of the country is more important than the fact that a certain politician doesn't meet your standards of perfection. Newsflash: There is no perfect candidate.

I went through this in my mind just before the caucuses in my state (WA). I went through each candidate and I ended up with Romney. Everybody has a downside. But, I believe this man loves his country and likes the American people. This puts him ahead of Obama on both points. The current POTUS seems to hate America, and he doesn't seem to like the American people much either. I was talking to my husband about this when I was going through the pros and cons prior to the caucuses and I mentioned to him that I thought Romney would probably come up with a decent cabinet. My husband's response was, "yeah, he might even have cabinet meetings". I laughed; but, it was true. Obama is running this country through his "tsars", the Cabinet is just a front to make it seem like he is doing the normal things expected of a POTUS.

It is dismaying and somewhat depressing sometimes to read the stuff on this site (and I have been a Freeper for quite some time). I am hoping most people will be voting on the economy and if they do, a businessman is going to do well.

173 posted on 05/02/2012 2:02:35 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: P.O.E.

Our only hope is to try and put as much pressure as we can on Romney to push the conservative agenda.
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It wont work...

Willie Mitty already has an agenda and its not Conservative...

“I think the old standby definitions of who votes for which party have been blown away in this campaign. I think people recognize that I’m not a partisan Republican—that I’m someone who is moderate, and that my views are progressive.”
-Mitt Romney (2002)


174 posted on 05/02/2012 2:08:05 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: cpdiii
How can I justify voting for Romney?? That is an easy one. Romney is not a Marxist totalitarian, law breaking thug. Nor is he a liar and he is a patriot.

My thoughts exactly. Romney is not my first choice, but I'll admit the speech he gave after the last primaries was downright inspiring.

Romney is a patriot, Obama is not.

175 posted on 05/02/2012 2:08:49 PM PDT by Kharis13 (That noise you hear is our Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Willard Mitt Romney..

But, I believe this man loves his country and likes the American people.
_____________________________________________

How did you come to that conclusion ???

Why do you believe that ???


176 posted on 05/02/2012 2:10:41 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: SunTzuWu

Very well said ... I’m agreeing with you. One other reason: SCOTUS with two possible appointments. We can’t afford another Kagan or Sotomayor.


177 posted on 05/02/2012 2:11:24 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (O's new cookbook: "101 Ways To Wok Your Dog")
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To: LibertarianLiz
But, I believe this man loves his country and likes the American people.

Not relevant when you consider that Mitt's first and strongest drive is the love of State Power. The people of MA have suffered under his love of government.

Mitt will NOT change the trajectory of our Republic. Socialism is Mitt's destination. Mitt's first instinct is to always seek government solutions and to grow government.

A look at his actual record will confirm this absolute reality.

I will NEVER cast a vote for Statist, no matter the party to which they belong.

178 posted on 05/02/2012 2:13:31 PM PDT by sand88 (Nothing on this Earth would get me to vote for Mitt.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

Willard Mitt Romney..

My husband’s response was, “yeah, he might even have cabinet meetings”.
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When Willard was Gov of MASS he didnt have many “cabinet meetings”

He kept himself to himself when he was in the Gov mansion..

He spoke to few people and would let people near him...

even his staff rarely saw him

Now tell me does this sound like a guy who would have cabinet meetings and interact with his staff in the White House ???


179 posted on 05/02/2012 2:14:38 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana
I'm sorry, but I look at this man, I see a faithful husband with a nice wife. I see someone who had a father who left him a lot of money, who then turned around and donated the whole of it to charity. I don't hear him talking about "redistribution" of other people's money to buy votes. I see someone who believes in capitalism and the way it helps all people climb the ladder for a better life.

I might ask you to tell me why you think this man does NOT love his country or the American people? How do YOU come to that conclusion?

180 posted on 05/02/2012 2:16:45 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: Fast Moving Angel

We can’t afford another Kagan or Sotomayor.
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Too bad...

Thats the only kind that Willard would sell you..


181 posted on 05/02/2012 2:17:06 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Tennessee Nana

If we can load up the House & Senate, we can get bills to Romney’s desk.


182 posted on 05/02/2012 2:18:30 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: NoRedTape
Why wouldn't it be justified for a wide variety of reasons? Millions have voted in the primaries. He got more of those votes than anyone else running aginst him.

People voted for him because they liked him and didn't like the others.

183 posted on 05/02/2012 2:19:30 PM PDT by pfflier
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To: LibertarianLiz

I see a faithful husband with a nice wife.
__________________________________________

But you dont know that for sure...

Plus if it is true there are millions of men who are faithful and have “nice” wives...

But we’re not looking to get married...

We need a leader in the White House

and the requirements for POTUS do not include marriger...

a single man or a widower could do a great job...

President Ronald Reagan was divorced

President Abraham Lincoln had a harrigan for a wife...

we’re not electing the wife...


184 posted on 05/02/2012 2:22:54 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: NoRedTape

I will vote for the Republican Nominee.

Period.

My goal is the removal of Obama.

No, Romney fdoes not equal Obama. or Obama “Lite”.

I wish the Republican Nominee was Santorum. That’s how I voted in the Primary.

I didn’t get my way...but that doesn’t mean I can’t work to defeat Obama.

I want Obama defeated now. That’s all that matters to me. It is all I have left.


185 posted on 05/02/2012 2:25:26 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Islam: a transnational fascist government that demands worship.)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I see someone who had a father who left him a lot of money, who then turned around and donated the whole of it to charity.
________________________________________

There was nothing charitable about it...

he gave it to his Mormon religion...

It benefitted him politically and socially and in his business..

Hes been well paid back....

In promotions in his relgion and in his political career and campaigns


186 posted on 05/02/2012 2:25:48 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I don’t hear him talking about “redistribution” of other people’s money to buy votes.
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RomneyCare

%50 abortions...

ask the MASS folk if it hasnt cost them...


187 posted on 05/02/2012 2:27:53 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: NoRedTape

I can’t justify it. He is too liberal. I will write in Gignrich.


188 posted on 05/02/2012 2:29:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: LibertarianLiz

I see someone who believes in capitalism and the way it helps all people climb the ladder for a better life.
____________________________________________

You say this about a guy who has never actually “produced” anything ???

has never built anything ???

Oh he has climbed the ladder alright...


189 posted on 05/02/2012 2:30:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: brivette

one word OBAMA!!!


190 posted on 05/02/2012 2:31:14 PM PDT by southphilly (Every State should be a right to work State)
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To: NoRedTape

Your timing is off

The question should be asked around September 20th


191 posted on 05/02/2012 2:32:47 PM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: NoRedTape

Obama hates America and wants to destroy her. This is beyond dispute. I do not believe that this is true about Romney.

I believe that a President Romney will appoint better judges and better Executive Branch officials than Obama has or will. This is a matter of opinion but it seems pretty obviously true to me.

I believe that if we get a GOP Congress that passes some conservative legislation a President Romney will be more likely to sign this legislation than Obama would. Again, a matter of opinion but it seems pretty likely to me.

For me it really isn’t a close call. Romney was not my first, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, or 6th choice of all those who ran for the GOP nomination, but now that he has beat all of the others I will vote for him because I think this is what will be better for America.


192 posted on 05/02/2012 2:33:48 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: LibertarianLiz

I might ask you to tell me why you think this man does NOT love his country or the American people? How do YOU come to that conclusion?
_________________________________________

You might but you still havent answered me yet...

You just described millions of men around the world

and their activities and marriages and tax shelters and donations to their religions and enjoyment of their wealth..

but you never answered what I asked you ...

which was about the heart of the man Willard Mitt Romney

From #176

Willard Mitt Romney..

LL: But, I believe this man loves his country and likes the American people.
_____________________________________________

Nana: How did you come to that conclusion ???

Why do you believe that ???


193 posted on 05/02/2012 2:37:33 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: pgkdan

And the first to start calling names lost the argument.


194 posted on 05/02/2012 2:39:32 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Sam Gamgee

He did.

He’s not The One.


195 posted on 05/02/2012 2:41:27 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: NoRedTape

I have no problem voting for Romney. He’s not Obama. That’s enough for me. Either Romney or Obama will win. A write in vote is worthless and in swing states, could get Obama elected.


196 posted on 05/02/2012 2:42:04 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: nathanbedford
I often hold great respect for certain FReepers. You indeed are one of them. You often bring great wisdom and insight to the discussion, but...there always is in these responses:

I've been thinking hard over this vote come November. I in no way think a vote for Romney is a vote for the survival of our country. Romney is just the good cop, the velvet glove, the soft touch of republican progressivism.

As I posed the question to another FReeper, Satan or Ba’al? And for me that question, indeed this election, feels like we are waiting for Moses to come down from the Mountain.

197 posted on 05/02/2012 2:46:28 PM PDT by EBH (The redistribution of another man's money, does not create wealth for the "greater good.")
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To: NoRedTape

He is not Obama, while he is so uninspiring that I wouldn’t piss in his mouth if his teeth were on fire ,HE IS NOT A COMMUNIST . Unlike the Democrats in Congress & the current squatter in the White House.


198 posted on 05/02/2012 3:00:09 PM PDT by Nebr FAL owner
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To: HwyChile

Hey Chile .... do not generalize when name calling . How old are you? 10 ? Been a proud southern boy all my life. A Christian too . You’re rude, offensive and I’d give a days pay to be in the same room with you right now. And when it was over , there’d be no hard feelin’s .... on my part anyway. Some of my best friends are those that “ needed fixin’ “ ! Yes, most of us here in NC still discipline the youngins when they’re out of line ....
Grow Up Son,
Snoot ;o)


199 posted on 05/02/2012 3:06:32 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Fine -- I give up. Mitt Romney is the anti-Christ. Four more years of Obama will leave our country in great shape.

I really hate being in this position, because Romney would not have been my first choice for a candidate; but, none of the people I liked wanted to take the leap. We are now down to Romney vs. Obama and, contrary to the people I am hearing from on this thread, I refuse to believe that Romney is worse than Obama.

But, you guys just keep braying, keep depressing people who won't go out to vote against Obama. That will be a great help to our country.

200 posted on 05/02/2012 3:11:45 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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