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How does one justify a vote for Romney? ^ | May 2, 2012 | NoRedTape

Posted on 05/02/2012 12:08:22 PM PDT by NoRedTape

With the foisted increased possibility of Mittens buying becoming the Nominee, can you actually justify voting for him in the general election?

This is what I am truly curious to find out.

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Personally, at this moment, I simply cannot vote for Romney under any circumstance. I am also convinced that if Romney runs against Obama, Romney will lose massively.

I'd really be interested in your feedback, especially in terms of how you potentially plan to justify voting for Romney if he indeed becomes the Nominee.

Thank you,





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To: Tennessee Nana

“God wont fall off His throne that day either way...

I’ll just get up and eat breakfasst...”

But, but I don’t eat breakfasst, is it any good! LOL

241 posted on 05/02/2012 6:38:41 PM PDT by longhorn too
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To: longhorn too

Then just have a 2nd cup of coffee...

242 posted on 05/02/2012 6:47:09 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: smokingfrog

Bobdole for President! He can run with McInsane! LOL

243 posted on 05/02/2012 6:58:23 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Tennessee Nana

So, if the House and Senate vote to repeal Obamacare you’re saying Romney will veto it? Right...

So, if we get control of House and Senate and tax cuts are enacted, Romney will veto it? What about Obama?

244 posted on 05/02/2012 7:00:32 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: BamaBlue

Go back and read my #240 again

245 posted on 05/02/2012 7:03:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: BamaBlue

Go back and read my #240 again

246 posted on 05/02/2012 7:04:34 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: houeto
Are you suggesting that he does not believe that?

I am a practicing Catholic. I don't agree with the Catholic Church's rigid stance on contraception but I will vehemently defend the church's right to maintain their outdated doctrine. I don't agree with several things that are part of the Catholic Faith.

I am suggesting your are presumptuous to think you know what anyone believes regardless of what their associations are. I don't know what he believes but do not think it will make him any worse of a representative for us than his less than conservative credentials already suggest.

More importantly, I'd like to see his faith not become part of our childish circular firing squad here on FreeRepublic.

247 posted on 05/02/2012 7:08:13 PM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: pgkdan
Those are the facts. It's a damned shame so many so-called conservatives are too stupid to see them.

MORMONism is a heresy. Those are the facts. It's a damned shame so many MORMONs are too deceived to acknowledge it.

248 posted on 05/02/2012 7:38:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Tennessee Nana

You’re not getting off the hook that easy...Let’s do it again.



249 posted on 05/02/2012 7:39:20 PM PDT by BamaBlue
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To: nathanbedford
I'm voting for the survival of the country not for the reform of a political party.

Is that still possible?

I think I'll vote to keep souls from being deceived by MORMONism.

250 posted on 05/02/2012 7:41:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: SaraJohnson

Poor Bob never got his turn ...

251 posted on 05/02/2012 7:42:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Piranha
I agree with every word you said except for one. I would change I believe Obama hated America, to I believe he HATES America...

Obama heard it growing up from his commie mommy, his commie grandparents, and his Indonesian commie/Islamist step-father and he was in Indonesia at a time when they where very politically anti-American, so he probably heard it everyday from teachers, imams, students and Madrass teachers as well as his friends. They all HATE America.

His whole upbringing is laced with haters. Then he spent 20 years in the hater Jeremiah Wright's church.

I just don't think Romney hates America, the Founding Fathers, our Constitution, our way of life, and frankly, white people, like Obama and his wife do.

People here who say Romney and Obama are the same miss this crucial (to our very survival) point. Remember what he promised Medvedev!

252 posted on 05/02/2012 7:43:17 PM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: mnehring

Nope. It’s poker.

253 posted on 05/02/2012 7:44:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: BamaBlue

Romney might very well veto a repeal of Obamacare. Or, even more likely, he might use the threat of a veto to force RINOs in Congress to pass another Romneycare. I suspect that is exactly what he meant by repeal and replace.

254 posted on 05/02/2012 7:44:53 PM PDT by Tau Food
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To: HwyChile
So what you are really saying is that you are a religious bigot.

Isn't that something when it is exposed!!??

Questions put to Joseph Smith: "'Do you believe the Bible?' [Smith:]'If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do'. When asked 'Will everybody be damned, but Mormons'? [Smith replied] 'Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 119).
Joseph Smith: "for the teachers of religion of the different sects understood the same passages of scripture so differently as to destroy all confidence in settling the question by an appeal to the Bible" (from Pearl of Great Price 1:12). "What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world" (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p.270).
Brigham Young stated this repeatedly: "When the light came to me I saw that all the so-called Christian world was grovelling in darkness" (Journal of Discourses 5:73); "The Christian world, so-called, are heathens as to the knowledge of the salvation of God" (Journal of Discourses 8:171); "With a regard to true theology, a more ignorant people never lived than the present so-called Christian world" (Journal of Discourses 8:199); "And who is there that acknowledges [God's] hand? ...You may wander east, west, north, and south, and you cannot find it in any church or government on the earth, except the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.24); "Should you ask why we differ from other Christians, as they are called, it is simply because they are not Christians as the New Testament defines Christianity" (Journal of Discourses 10:230).
Orson Pratt proclaimed: "Both Catholics and Protestants are nothing less than the 'whore of Babylon' whom the Lord denounces by the mouth of John the Revelator as having corrupted all the earth by their fornications and wickedness. Any person who shall be so corrupt as to receive a holy ordinance of the Gospel from the ministers of any of these apostate churches will be sent down to hell with them, unless they repent" (The Seer, p. 255).
Orson Pratt also said: "This great apostasy commenced about the close of the first century of the Christian era, and it has been waxing worse and worse from then until now" (Journal of Discourses
, vol.18, p.44) and: "But as there has been no Christian Church on the earth for a great many centuries past, until the present century, the people have lost sight of the pattern that God has given according to which the Christian Church should be established, and they have denominated a great variety of people Christian Churches, because they profess to be ...But there has been a long apostasy, during which the nations have been cursed with apostate churches in great abundance" (Journal of Discourses , 18:172).
President John Taylor stated: " a perfect pack of nonsense...the devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century." (Journal of Discourses , vol. 6, p.167); "Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (Journal of Discourses , 10:127).
James Talmage said: "A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". (A Study of the Articles of Faith, p.182).
President Joseph Fielding Smith said: "Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." (Doctrines of Salvation, p.266). "For hundreds of years the world was wrapped in a veil of spiritual darkness, until there was not one fundamental truth belonging to the place of salvation ...Joseph Smith declared that in the year 1820 the Lord revealed to him that all the 'Christian' churches were in error, teaching for commandments the doctrines of men" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol. 3, p.282).
More recent statements by apostle Bruce McConkie are also very clear: "Apostasy was universal...And this darkness still prevails except among those who have come to a knowledge of the restored gospel" (Doctrines of Salvation, vol 3, p.265); "Thus the signs of the times include the prevailing apostate darkness in the sects of Christendom and in the religious world in general" (The Millennial Messiah, p.403); "a perverted Christianity holds sway among the so-called Christians of apostate Christendom" (Mormon Doctrine, p.132); "virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Mormon Doctrine, p.269); "Gnosticism is one of the great pagan philosophies which antedated Christ and the Christian Era and which was later commingled with pure Christianity to form the apostate religion that has prevailed in the world since the early days of that era." (Mormon Doctrine, p.316).
President George Q. Cannon said: "After the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints was organized, there were only two churches upon the earth. They were known respectively as the Church of the Lamb of God and Babylon. The various organizations which are called churches throughout Christendom, though differing in their creeds and organizations, have one common origin. They all belong to Babylon" (Gospel Truth, p.324).
President Wilford Woodruff stated: "the Gospel of modern Christendom shuts up the Lord, and stops all communication with Him. I want nothing to do with such a Gospel, I would rather prefer the Gospel of the dark ages, so called" (Journal of Discourses , vol. 2, p.196).

255 posted on 05/02/2012 7:47:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: pgkdan
I am truly disgusted by all the mormon bashing from these so-called Christians.

Office of First President & Living Prophet®:

April 21st, 2012


Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!
Hot diggity dog; our boy has MADE it!!
Now beware; for the media is gonna be on us like... well; you know the saying.

I've been getting lots of feedback from those of you on Free Republic (spit) about a certain ELSIE (or something like that), who is REALLY giving us a hard time there!
Why not try to point out to the uninformed how OBSESSED he seems to be.
Let's see if we can tangle him up so much trying to defend his reputation
that he'll no longer have as much time to post facts about MORMONism.
As always, Tommy M.  
(Keep pressing that we are CHRISTIAN and avoid anything MORMON like the DEVIL!!)

256 posted on 05/02/2012 7:50:42 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: pgkdan
I am truly disgusted by all the mormon bashing from these so-called Christians.

Any place that a MORMON has the nerve to start spouting any of their HERESY will turn in to a BASH.


257 posted on 05/02/2012 7:51:17 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Uncle Miltie
Mormonism is odd, but not evil.

I'm sure that'll go over well when Judgement Day arrives.

Galatians 1:6-9
6. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:
7. Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
9. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Like this fine looking fellow???

2 Corinthians 11:12-15
12. But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we.
13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

Like THESE guys??
17 It no sooner appeared than I found myself delivered from the enemy which held me bound. When the light rested upon me I saw two Personages, whose brightness and glory defy all description, standing above me in the air. One of them spake unto me, calling me by name and said, pointing to the other—This is My Beloved Son. Hear Him!

Ephesians 2:1-2
1. And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

258 posted on 05/02/2012 7:53:36 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: fml
It’s time to rid the country of a race baitng divisive hate monger.

"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.

Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'

August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)

1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."

We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.

Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).

When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."

When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)

Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.


“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.


(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)



259 posted on 05/02/2012 7:55:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: gusty
Some of us are not shut ins, cranks, keyboard commandos, we have real world responsibilities.

Others of us have next world callings.

260 posted on 05/02/2012 7:56:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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