Skip to comments.Allen West and the GOP Establishment
Posted on 05/02/2012 4:51:03 PM PDT by Kaslin
RUSH: Carl in Ft. Lauderdale. Carl, I'm glad you held on. Welcome to the program, sir.
CALLER: Rush it's sensational to be on the phone with you. Thank you.
RUSH: You bet, sir.
CALLER: That lady that called before and you were trying to help her out where her Democratic friends keep beating her up, and you were explaining the lack of power having only the House. But I remember so clearly -- and I was so mad and I'm still mad -- right after the 2010 midterms there was one of these requests from Obama for $2.4 trillion in expanded debt. Well, the House and Boehner and those guys put together their own package.
And, just as soon as it was done, and maybe before, Reid says, "I'm not gonna vote on that." And Obama says, "If they do and they pass it, I'm gonna veto it." And instantaneously, immediately, they hustled back into the hole and they come out with a bill exactly as Obama wanted it. Now, I'm in District 22 here in Florida with Allen West. I thought he was gonna be a strong man, but he laid down like the rest of them. I think that's where a lot of disappointment comes from in America, from conservatives. They just lay down.
RUSH: What do you mean Allen West laid down?
CALLER: He backed Boehner.
RUSH: (deep sigh)
CALLER: By the way, can I say hello to my buddy?
RUSH: Yeah, go ahead while I figure out what I'm gonna say to you.
CALLER: Hey, Wayne! I'm on the phone with Rush! (chuckles)
RUSH: (chuckles) Big day. That's a big day.
CALLER: It is.
RUSH: I'm not... I don't remember specifically the spending argument that you described. I'm not denying it. I do know there were a bunch of battles over raising the debt limit, and it was always made to look like the Republicans caved. And I will admit to you: I thought that in each one of those fights the Republicans held the cards and could have dictated to Obama. I always thought that. I thought the same thing that you do. I thought that it was Obama that needed the money. He's the one that wanted to spend. He's the one that needed to spend. We could have held out. What is the debt limit for? What does the word "limit" mean? What good is it if it doesn't exist and you just keep expanding it? Why even have a debt limit?
CALLER: After they passed it, you called it his new slush fund.
RUSH: Well, it was. Everything is a slush fund!
CALLER: Well, why'd they pass it?
RUSH: Now, Allen West...
CALLER: Why'd they do that?
RUSH: See, as a powerful, influential member of the media, I know things that I can't tell because of confidences. But I'll just tell you: I was with Allen West. When was this? It was last... It was around one of these instances, and he was just as depressed as he could be over things he was hearing the leadership say to freshmen and so forth. Basically what it was -- and Democrats do it; Republicans do it. They say to incoming freshmen... Remember, now, we've talked about this. The House leadership was not crazy about these new Tea Party freshmen.
They thought they were nuts. They thought they were kooks. And they bring 'em in, and they say, "Look if you want to have any future here, if you want us to help you with your reelection, you're gonna have to vote with the leadership." And immediately they face a choice. And that's why a number of freshmen stand out. You've got the guy in Illinois. [Joe Walsh] He stands up, and he's independent, and he refuses, and the Tea Party people love him.
But most of them end up, in one instance or another, going along with the leadership. They're under a lot of pressure to do this. And I remember Allen West. He did the best he could. He told me that he and his fellow freshmen did as much as was humanly possible, given what they were up against. They didn't have, within the Republican Caucus, enough of these guys to stop the rest of the Republicans in the House. And then, of course, when you're talking about raising the debt limit, you've got all the pressure that's being brought to bear.
You're talking about all the news about what's gonna happen to our credit rating, all the news of what's gonna happen to the financial markets. And as is the usual case, Carl, everybody's predicting the apocalypse. "If the debt ceiling isn't raised, why, there goes our credit rating! If the debt ceiling isn't raised, why, Social Security checks may not go out!" And guess who's gonna get blamed? The Republicans! The media is blaming them and other Republicans are blaming them. And their hopes of being reelected are dowsed in their first terms if that happens.
That's why I keep saying that it's gonna require a whole lot of elections, and a whole lot of conservatives winning them, to begin turning back the tide here. But whether these concerns were real or not doesn't matter. If the financial markets would not have reacted negatively had there not been that specific increase in the debt limit, it is still being reported. The people are hearing it. So it's a vicious, vicious cycle and battle that takes place. But I don't believe that, on general principles, Allen West has shrunken from duty and responsibility or "laid down," as you say.
But I appreciate the call, Carl.
Can’t wait to vote for President West! Just sayin’ - and thanks to Rush for explaning why we need more TEA Partiers in to help change the tide and get those good ‘ol boys OUTTA THERE!!!!!
I’d happily vote for Allen West for President, too. And I really appreciate how he’s being up-front in calling commies what they are!
He would definitely get my vote
the only power the leadership has is threats to ‘not support’ the congressmen at re-election
therefore, the congressmen need to remove that threat
like sheriff joe, they must get their districts behind them so they can fight with integrity
get their people in the districts and canvas... get intentions nailed down and people signed off on the long haul
Lt. Colonel Allen West IS the man’s man. I spent two days at the Freeper Dinner weekend in DC on 9/12/09. We had a million people there stretching from the Capital for 2, 3 miles.
Representative West spoke on Friday night, telling the stories of the Spartans and real history. Saturday night, I forget the topic...too much vino and veritas!
If Mittens would pick West as his VP...unbeatable. Remember we voted for the VP!!
I would be proud to vote for him.
Sarah Palin herself couldn’t get me to vote for mitt.
Do you really think this Republic will be better off if Obama gets re-elected than if Mitt wins?
I think some on here actually think that.
Fortunately, it’s quite a small group.
Unless someone with at least a small amount of Conservative ideology within them is elected as president... then no... I do not think that much will happen to stop the march of this Republic into communism. It isn't that mitt isn't a pure Conservative or that he does not meet some litmus test... the man has not one scintilla of Conservative belief within him... he is a proved liar and has been all of his miserable and progressive life. mitt, combined with mcconnell and boehner... disaster pal... pure European socialism with no Congress to step into the fray. Just look at the republican spending under Bush. GW was a Conservative compared to mitt... mitt makes W look like Reagan. I will not vote for that baby killing, gun grabbing, big socialist liar... savvy?
To not vote for Romney is to vote for Obama. I don’t much like him either but I think he can be forced to be a conservative and Obama if he wins re-election will finish the transformation of this Republic into a Marxist State.
If Obama wins this Republic will become a Marxist Welfare State. Go figure.
If Obama wins this Republic will become a Marxist Welfare State. Go figure.
That’s what scares me. McCain might be a Rino, but a Rino in the White House would be better than a Marxist.
“RINOs give us a larger and more expensive government. “
You mean larger and more expensive Gov created by LBJ, Carter, Clinton and more expensive than Obamacare and its 16,000 new IRS agents that will enforce it? I think our primary job now is to get Romney elected and our second job will be to hold his feet to the fire if he starts to swing left.
Clarification:I may not have amde myself clear. I believe that many Conservatives didn’t vote for McCain because he is a RINO. The result was Obama won and look where we are. If Conservatives refuse to vote for Romney and Obama wins again, we all lose. I really don’t like Romney all that much and I really would have preferred Allen West or Paul Ryan or Chris Christie to run but we look to be stuck with Romney. The question we need to asked ourselves is will our Republic be better off with a RINO or a Marxist in the White House?
OK, I understand Conservatives, including myself, are unhappy with Romney. But I fail to understand from your reply what our alternatives are. As I seem them they are:
1. Vote for Romney
2. Vote for Obama
3. Write in a candidate’s name
4. Don’t vote in protest.
What can you add to this list?
So what are you suggesting? Just not to vote?
I agree with all you say. The point I was trying to make was we will be better off with a RINO than a dictator. I really don’t like Romney but I like Obama a whole lot less.
You seem to have an understanding of the problem, but no solutions. What are you suggesting people do during the next election? It’s either vote for a RINO or vote for a presumed emperor. I’ll say it one more time. Not voting for the Romney is the same as voting for Obama.