Another life cut short by an unforgiving game [Junior Seau]

Boston Herald ^ | May 3, 2012 | Ron Borges

[redgolum]

And soccer? Horse riding?

There are other sports that have similar issues.

The problem with football is that there is to much padding. As Dikta said, take away the face masks and they will stop leading with their heads.

I have seen other people who left sports suffer from depression. It is actually very common. Did the head trauma have an effect? It may. But leaving the game they love and have dedicated their life to is very upsetting.

[xp38]

I could be wrong but I think Ali is at the point where he is incapable of taking his own life even if he wanted to.

[LevinFan]

Last I heard, soccer was almost as safety as shuffle board. All sports activities have some physical risks, but football is by far the worst. Especially with the competition for an NFL position.
Do what your want, but I wouldn’t allowed a child of mine to play football, and would discourage them from watching. Football is a pure blood sport that is as vicious as gladatorial games in rome.

[Josa]

And Ali has endured a debilitating, neurological illness

[redgolum]

Actually, the “heading” of the ball is very bad for kids. Repeated head trauma is not a good idea, and I have seen the effects of it.

Football isn't the worst for injuries, but it is the most popular. Boxing and MMA takes a much harder tole on people.

[Fiji Hill]

who thinks they can repeatedly hit their head on something(s) and come out ok afterward? Esp. when it happens for weeks on end, year after year. It does not take ‘studies’ to figure out that, gee, multiple concussions can’t be good for brain matter.

So, on the one hand: lots of money, fame, etc. On the other, brain damage. I think NFL players picked their poison.

What about soccer, which features the "head shot," in which the player uses his head to hit the ball? And don't forget baseball. Tony Conigliaro's death at the age of 45 was probably due, at least in part, to having been hit in the head by a bean ball.

[sphinx]

I agree. Football players nowadays use their bodies as missiles and too often lead with their heads. That’s not the way the game used to be played. It’s the product of up-armoring the players.

Football has always been a rough game, but I’d bet that if one could find reliable comparative statistics from 1930 through the 1960’s or so, one would not find nearly the modern incidence of brain injury. A comparison with rugby players would also be instructive.

[HGSW0904]

What about soccer, which features the "head shot," in which the player uses his head to hit the ball? And don't forget baseball. Tony Conigliaro's death at the age of 45 was probably due, at least in part, to having been hit in the head by a bean ball. Heading a soccer ball doesn't feel great -- but I don't know that concussions are a regular occurrence in the sport (I don't know, I really don't follow soccer and haven't played since high school). Baseball? Head injuries are the exception, not the norm. One can hardly compare repeated crashing of the head into bodies and the ground as found in football to headers and the occasional wayward pitch or line drive. Sometimes #$%^&* happens. I played softball for years. Got clocked on the back of the head by a(I was a catcher) once or twice. I had a helmet (which I hated) so it was really not a big deal, but if I have some sort of damage to my head...I have some sort of damage to my head. I'm not going to sue the Girl's Softball Association over it. Football is a high-contact, dangerous sport. You make choices. And you live -- or die -- by them. I've got compassion for those affected by their decisions, but when you make a decision, you live with ALL of the consequences: good and bad, intended and unintended. That's the way life rolls.

[HGSW0904]

...should read ‘clocked by a bat once or twice’. Could be that brain damage kicking in early. ;-)

[HerrBlucher]

As Dikta said, take away the face masks and they will stop leading with their heads.

And no more face masking penalties. However, a lot more broken noses, black eyes etc. Better those though than concussions. My father played four years of college ball in the days when you played both defense and offense (center and linebacker)....all with a leather helmet. His only injury was a broken leg while coaching.

[snoringbear]

“My guess is post-retirement depression (which usually manifests itself in a new career of drug-dealing). His first suicide attempt came the year after he retired.”

My guess is that “ost-retirement depression” is caused by a forced life style change imposed by lack of money. These guys during their playing years invariably live a life style as though it will go on forever. Then, when the music stops and hence the money stops they can't deal with it. Result, suicide....

[LevinFan]

Injuries in baseball are usually minor compared to football, and they don’t get hit in the head very often. in football, they make physical contact in almost every play. And by physical contact, I mean someone gets body slammed each time.
I’d agreed that hitting a ball with your head in soccer isn’t too bright, it isn’t the same as getting hit by a 200+ lb. man coming at you in full charge, with five more right behind him.

[LevinFan]

What is MMA?

[Fiji Hill]

Rush Limbaugh has been crusading against the dangerous sport of soccer. He set up an organization called Keep Our Own Kids Safe, which lobbies for reforming the sport through reforms such as outlawing "heading." The group's long-range goal is to have soccer banned altogether.

However, KOOKS has been opposed by Big Soccer, which includes corporate giants such as Addidas which have a financial stake in the sport.

[LevinFan]

This is a joke, right? I can’t see rush ever involved in something like that.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Gary Speed, a Welsh soccer player about the same age as Seau, committed suicide last fall. The thinking in Speed's case was that it was caused by depression due to the end of his sporting career.

Then there's the well-known sad case of relief pitcher Donnie Moore's suicide a few months after his baseball career ended.

[robowombat]

I don't care one way or the other about pro sports but it is not denial. No one held a gun to the head of any football player and compelled them to play. They are not slaves as were many of the gladiators. They are adults and signed on for the conditions of the contract. The problems they have later are their problems not the rest of us. They are compensated at a high level for the risks they incur and if they lack the sense or foresight to prepare to deal with these issues it is their problem pure and simple. If free men wished to engage in gladiatorial combat I would have no objection. It is their lives to risk and no one elses concern.

[Colonel Kangaroo]

Considering the way the NFL establishment has treated him over the years, Limbaugh might ought to think about favoring soccer football over American gridiron football.

[redgolum]

Mixed Martial Arts.

Boxing using more than your hands. Very brutal

[redgolum]

They were a lot smaller in those days, but you are right.
Dikta came to a benefit for one of my wife's students. He (the student), died of a spinal cord injury from playing football. Legal hit, but the player led with his head while running the ball. Opposing player hit him with the pad, and snapped my wife's student's neck.