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Activist Chen Guangcheng: Let Me Leave China on Hillary Clinton’s Plane
The Daily Beast ^ | May 2, 2012 | Melinda Liu

Posted on 05/03/2012 5:26:25 AM PDT by Hojczyk

In an exclusive interview with The Daily Beast’s Melinda Liu, blind dissident Chen Guangcheng says he’s been abandoned by American officials at a Chinese hospital and begs to leave the country on Hillary Clinton’s plane.

I’ve known Chen Guangcheng for more than a decade—he’s been through intimidation, beatings, jail, and extralegal house arrest—but through it all I never sensed he was scared. Now he’s scared. Chen, whose case has escalated into a bilateral crisis that threatens to dominate Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s visit to Beijing this week, was weeping as he talked to me over the phone from his hospital bed.

When U.S. officials escorted him out of the U.S. embassy shortly after 3 p.m. Wednesday, Chen thought he’d extracted a promise that at least one of them would stay with him at the hospital, he said.

“Many Americans were with me while I checked into the hospital and doctors examined me. Lots of them,” he told me from his hospital bed, where he’s being treated for broken bones in one foot, an injury sustained when he fell after climbing a wall during his daring escape from house arrest late last month. “But when I was brought to the hospital room, they all left

. I don’t know where they went.” The ordeal was all the more bewildering because Chen is blind and was hurt during his escape; he needs crutches or a wheelchair to move around.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedailybeast.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: chen; chenguangcheng; guangcheng; hillaryclinton

1 posted on 05/03/2012 5:26:27 AM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: Hojczyk

Chen, this poor Chinaman, should have studied past and present U.S, history.

Hillary Clinton is a pathilogial LIAR.

Obama LIES to the American Public and Congress EVERYDAY.

If they both lie to Americans, what made Chen think they would tell the truth to just 1 Chinaman.


2 posted on 05/03/2012 5:40:39 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Hojczyk
Activist Chen Guangcheng: Let Me Leave China on Hillary Clinton’s Plane

.... and leave Hillary in China.

3 posted on 05/03/2012 5:40:42 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: Hojczyk

And this is how you divide the good from the bad.


4 posted on 05/03/2012 5:40:56 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: Hojczyk
You poor, poor man.
If you are depending on Hitlery you are doomed to a firing squad.
Then she will say she didn't know you wanted to leave China. . . . . . .
5 posted on 05/03/2012 5:43:53 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Cold War Veteran. . . . US Army Security Agency 1964-1968- I have now gone pecan.)
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To: tennmountainman
Chen, this poor Chinaman, should have studied past and present U.S, history.

And past and present Chinese history. He was incredibly brave, but he ran a huge risk of incurring fatal Party displeasure. Hoping the US would save him was a very iffy plan. If he had garnered just a bit less publicity, he'd have disappeared and we wouldn't be talking about the US role.

6 posted on 05/03/2012 5:47:16 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Hojczyk

I guess if he wanted to be free, he should have defected to the Russian embassy.


7 posted on 05/03/2012 5:49:30 AM PDT by crosshairs (Worship the Creator, not the created.)
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To: crosshairs

My bet is he already has a bullet in his head, his body stripped bare with acid, his bones crushed up and the remains sprinkled in some place ironically called Freedom Park.

As soon as that plane takes off for the US or wherever Hillary is going next to get payola, Chen is dead and there will never be a mention of it again.


8 posted on 05/03/2012 5:54:35 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Would you rather eat dog food or cat food? Guess it's Romney 2012.)
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To: All

I am afraid the Obama admin. is (ab)using this poor fellow, not helping him, so far.


9 posted on 05/03/2012 6:02:01 AM PDT by Milagros (Y)
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To: Hojczyk
Official Hillary Statement:

"Ahh don’t feel noways tired! I’ve come too faarrr from where I started frum, to let some blind Chinese guy screw up one of mah diplomatic missssions!"
10 posted on 05/03/2012 6:03:51 AM PDT by mkjessup (Romney is to conservatism what Helen Thomas is to a high fashion model walkway.)
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To: Hojczyk
Before we had the current “Killer” president in the White House a similar situation arose in 1956 in Hungry when Cardinal Mindszenty sought asylum in the American Embassy in Budapest and was granted it. He lived in the Embassy for 15, FIFTEEN, years until a deal was struck. I know the MSMerde will be citing this comparison with the Obama Administration handling/s

What was Joe Biden’s infamous phrase:

“Stand up, Chen, so that everyone can see you. Oh, we gave you back to Communists. Sorry about that.”

11 posted on 05/03/2012 6:08:03 AM PDT by BilLies ( The Ass.Press ABCBSNBCNN, NYTimes, WaPOSt , PBS etc., hate your Loyal American guts!))
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To: Hojczyk

Arkansas suicide with Chinese takeout bump.


12 posted on 05/03/2012 6:09:19 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: tennmountainman

What made him think one set of commies would betray another set of commies. Marxists are thick as thieves.


13 posted on 05/03/2012 6:35:47 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Hojczyk

Ever wonder why our activist’s never want to leave here?

Tell him to stay there and make changes and be an activist.


14 posted on 05/03/2012 6:50:01 AM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: Hojczyk

China owns U.S.

Do you think Barry or Hill are going to do anything that even remotely ticks them off. Not a chance.


15 posted on 05/03/2012 6:57:30 AM PDT by Reagan69 (I supported Sarah Palin and all I got was a lousy DVD !)
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To: skeeter

That’s the truth.


16 posted on 05/03/2012 7:17:31 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Hojczyk

The more I learn about this “activist”, the more I am convinced that he is a loud-mouthed, demanding sorehead of the Keith Olbermann variety.

Every society has people like that, and they invariably piss off the authorities, then play martyr if and when the authorities have enough of their noise and sit on them.

The Soviet Union used to be very big on embracing such fools in the US, yet from our point of view they were real dorks, and often criminal ones.

This is not an apologetic for China, which as is plainly obvious has its basket full of bad problems, bad solutions, and general inefficient oppression and corruption.

But just to point out that just because someone is in opposition neither means that they are virtuous nor sensible, and we need to discriminate between legitimate criticism being suppressed and the rantings of Keith Olbermann type soreheads.


17 posted on 05/03/2012 7:24:27 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Hojczyk
...the scorpion can't help it...it's her nature.
18 posted on 05/03/2012 7:49:02 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Hojczyk

This administration cannot support someone who is pro-life.


19 posted on 05/03/2012 8:03:46 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; TigerLikesRooster

So because he wants to stop forced abortions and forced sterlizations he is a loud-mouthed demanding sorehead? What would you do in his situation?


20 posted on 05/03/2012 8:11:49 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: Hojczyk

For Hillary! Chen has become an inconvenient activist. He is putting the ‘Humanitarian’ Democrats in a precarious position in an election year. WE know they are all phonies and liars but most of the rest of the world only gets Big Media’s spin of the oh-so-wonderful, compassionate, and selfless Liberals. So sorry for Chen. He trusted the wrong people.


21 posted on 05/03/2012 8:28:27 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Hojczyk

Hillary and her “smart” friends would not mind China’s one child policy being imposed on the whole world. This poor guy mistook America’s pro life part as the whole.

George Bush would have shipped him out to the US because pro lifers would have been all over it. They are shut out of the Obama’s death culture rule. In fact, prolifers are under attack, having been named domestic terrorists by Obama and falsely prosecuted by Holder for protesting the killing of babies.


22 posted on 05/03/2012 8:49:57 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: HOYA97

He is a person caught up in what can be described as China’s “federalism” problem. China’s central government, its laws and policies are actually pretty popular among the citizens, but these laws and policies are ignored by the regional and local authorities, and this is where the problems lie.

Of the tens of thousands of protests that happen in China every year now, almost all of them, oddly enough, are against the regional and local authorities for *not* obeying the national law. Yet the response by the central government is not against the regional or local authorities to force conformity, but against those that protest.

Chen Guangcheng is being persecuted by local and regional authorities for demanding that they obey Chinese law. As such, this presents a problem for other nations, that can only act with national governments, not regional or local ones.

What he is demanding, an end to forced sterilizations and abortions, is actually already in Chinese law.

Comparatively in the US, Orly Taitz is demanding that Obama present proof of the citizenship requirements for the office of the presidency. It says he is supposed to in the constitution, but the federal government is not enforcing that requirement. And state governments, as well, are telling Taitz to go bugger off.

So in that case, would it be okay for the government of China to demand that the US government force the states to do what Taitz wants?


23 posted on 05/03/2012 9:23:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

That’s not my question. What would you do in his situation? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say, oh well. At least he tried to do something to bring attention to these issues. I suspect he and his family will pay a heavy price for what he did. We need to applaud and support them in whatever way we can so that others can stand and do the same.


24 posted on 05/03/2012 9:46:29 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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To: HOYA97

On the advice of an old China hand, who assured me that the worst way to do anything in China is the western way, gives an indirect answer to your question.

There is a “Chinese way” of doing things, which is so ingrained in their culture that to get anything done, much less done well, it has to be done their way and their tempo.

Westerners have a bull-in-the-china-shop attitude about change and getting things done, that is very particular to us. It is also attractive to many others because of its bluntness and simplicity. All the complexity and flow of doing things in other ways is mostly lost on us.

I will confess that I, too, both prefer the western way and do not grasp much of the Chinese way, but can guarantee that as Chen Guangcheng did things, it was almost assured that he would not find success, unless his intent was to appeal to westerners.

I know this sounds odd. There is an anecdote that is instructive, about an American tourist who was run into by an unwary Chinese bicyclist. A traffic cop was there, and wrote a ticket to the bicyclist, but then wrote a second ticket to the American. What for? “Had you not chosen to vacation in China, this accident would not have taken place, so you are also at fault.”

It makes sense in China.


25 posted on 05/03/2012 11:02:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Hojczyk

Are there any updates to this dilemma?

This is the only article I have seen on the subject. The search button does not work well for me.

Greta is on now and just before the break I think that she mentioned this.


26 posted on 05/03/2012 7:20:04 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Irish Eyes

now by having the whole world focused on this false step struggle for freedom, my take on this is that Chen and his family will fly back to the US with Hillary. Obama will greet them as they arrive, and declare what a brilliant diplomat he is to have arranged Chen’s visit to the States to study. the media will go rapturous over BO’s “triumph of diplomacy,” without realizing what BO has given up [by the most transparent administration ever]to arrange this feat. Biden will eventually step down; so that Hillary can become BO’s VP to secure the women’s vote in his re-election bid.


27 posted on 05/04/2012 4:38:52 PM PDT by IWONDR
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To: IWONDR
That scenario is a nightmare. What is worse I could see it happening.
28 posted on 05/04/2012 7:04:27 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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