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Posted on 05/03/2012 7:30:57 AM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde
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In the Deep South and large decaying cities up north, they may not be holding up cars with guns, but they are doing other things that are not legal or acceptable. I'm including benefits fraud and small time thieves, shoplifting, petty other stuff. The culture is all about being entitled to other people's money or things.
“...deaths caused by participants in the crime...”
Agreed. We both know as you say it depends on the state statutes given the age, etc. And it has to be believed to some extent that these guys knew something of the law to the extent of sending out the yute to do the job. It is a possibility, but not a fact. As you say, conspiracy is collateral to the topic at hand, but can be a charge to put these scum away for a long time as well.
It can fall partly under this law.
Compelling streetgang membership.
(a) For purposes of this section, the term “streetgang” means any combination, confederation, alliance, network, conspiracy, understanding, or other similar arrangement in law or in fact, of three or more persons that, through its membership or through the agency of any member, engages in a course or pattern of criminal activity.
(b) A person who expressly or by implication threatens to do bodily harm or does bodily harm to a person, a family member or a friend of the person, or any other person, or uses any other unlawful criminal means to solicit or cause any person to join or remain in a streetgang is guilty of the crime of compelling streetgang membership.
(c) The crime of compelling streetgang membership is a Class C felony.
(d) Notwithstanding subsection (c), the crime of compelling streetgang membership is a Class A felony if the defendant is over the age of 18 years and the other person is under the age of 18 years.
(e) This section shall not be construed to repeal other criminal laws. Whenever conduct proscribed by this section is also proscribed by any other provision of law, the provision which carries the more serious penalty shall apply.
(Act 98-490, p. 942, §§1, 2.)
F**ked up name.
Maybe this was an alternative to its assonance, JarJar (from The Phantom Menace), after that name was officially declared to be RACISTTM.
We got one of those too! 14 is what I counted.
Thanks for looking that stuff up and sharing it.
Good point, and you didn’t have to convince me at all, I know they’re out there. Have no problem with it, would jury nullify for someone prosecuted for carrying without.
His death probably will ultimately save many people’s lives who would have been future victims.
“Now you gone”
“How much you ment to me”
Sounds suspiciously like a ‘community organizer’ working on stepping up the training. This supposed ‘uncle’ may not even be from Alabama. The ‘organizers’ who have been training the flash mobbers are not from the areas they’re working.
Look at her own music interests as posted on her FB page. She listened to that thug crap herself.
crap was supposed to be rap. lol
What I don't get is that apostrophe that's used in many of these bizarre names. What missing letter(s) in the name is that apostrophe supposed to represent?
Sounds like the perfect place, but unless you are wearing a skirt that would not be concealed, right? (Hey, what do I know - maybe you are a female!)
..the guy in the suv has time to pull his .45 out from between the seat...
Thinking of all the vehicles and .45s I have owned, I cannot imagine keeping one between the seats unless it was in a holster and even then it would likely shift positions. Seems like it would take at least 2-3 seconds to get a firm grip and get it pointed out the door even if it was where it should be (didn't shift around). Not that I have a better idea when driving except maybe something like a hammerless revolver in a jacket pocket.
I see that some people think so. I would have to have a combination of bad attitude, bad behavior and thug-inspired wardrobe before I formed some kind of negative opinion. I do pre-judge that such attempts at creating exotic names points to an ethnic culture. Then again, if someone named Apple or Kelp shows up, I suspect white parents trying hard to be earth-friendly. But that’s just me.
“crap was supposed to be rap. lol
You say potatoe I say potato!
The holster is mounted under the dash off my right knee. I can pull it out while turning to leave the vehicle. The perp doesn’t see it until there are at least two slugs in his belly.
Another technique that works is as you leave the vehicle, shove yourself against the inside of the door, with the gun between you and the inside door panel. Turn and fire. He may even pull you in that direction.
By the time he’s in the car, he’s got slugs in his kidney. Follow up with head shots, or he may get a round off. Two at least. Call 911. Make sure your weapon is on the ground between your feet and your hands are palms out away from your hips so that LEO’s can see that you aren’t armed. Don’t put your hands over your head - you look like the perp.
Insist on an attorney. Don’t answer ANY questions, but do that as respectfully as you can. This idea that they are going to let you go right there because you were defending yourself from a carjacker is wishful thinking. A homicide has been committed and you need to defend yourself from the State at this point.
It’s not the ‘Justice System’, it’s the ‘Advocacy System’. Nobody gets justice, and you are punished according to your ability to defend yourself in court. It must be looked at this way. Justice is an occasional byproduct.
Either way works. Smaller guns are better (.22’s and 9mm) because you can shoot from the hip faster, more confidently, and generally more accurately than with the .40 or 10mm. Revolvers are no good for this application.
Great post. As I live in Thailand (thus the moniker ‘expat’) much is not appropriate for me - the laws are very different here, but great advice for US residents.
Yep! It will be another Trayvon Martin case! Unless the robbery victims were black, of course.
Hahahahaha! Good one!
“Older gang bangers use younger gang bangers all the time to commit crimes.”
I’ve heard this, too.
The older gang bangers don’t do the dirty work,
They get an under age kid to do it so the charge will be mitigated because of youthfulness of the kid, while if the older guy did the crime, the penalty would be much greater.
“Thats probably true. Most states have some kind of felony murder statute which allows for a murder charge if a death is caused in the commission of a felony, even if it was one of the criminals who dies.”
Also, does an aide and abetting a felony come into play, on top of the felony charge?
“I wonder where I can go and easily find statistics showing death rates of black youths from broken single parent homes verses black youths from traditional two parent families?”
Someone is going to have to help me on this.
Who is the writer from Chicago who wrote about gun ownership/lower crime. He probably has stats and references; I just can’t recall his name or the name of the book.
The author and title of his book is so important I can’t remember either!
“Does anyone know if this is his mom?”
Oh, sweet and dear Lord.
Society is crumbling. Help us, Lord.
In Jesus Name, Amen.
“I’ll never understand why parents give their kids names that make any potential future employer (other than the stinking government, of course) roll their eyes.”
Sheila Jackson Lee (TX-D) thought only white names were being used to name hurricanes and wanted black names included, like:
“There are wiggas, spiggas, and even jiggas.”
I swear to you - what do these names mean.
One of my dog’s name is Mr. Wiggles, he is 10 lbs of badass. Happens to be black.
He starts mix-ups with our other dog who is twice as large as Mr. Wiggles. He happens to be silver white. I have to break up the fights (water sprayer) because it always looks like Mr. Wiggles is so small he could get hurt.
Just a little info about our dogs.
Paradox, I know our Wiggles but what the heck are “wiggas, spiggas, and even jiggas?
Sometimes the “Mother and Dad” are very young themselves and haven't a clue as to how to raise a child - a child that ends up in gangs & thuggery and prisons. Maybe “parents” weren't even parented well.
When you have generations of thuggery, what can anyone expect...
Thanks in part to LBJ and his Great Society. But, the spiraling crime rate has ratcheted up since LBJ. Worse now, I expect.
I haven’t seen hate crime come up. Guess it only works certain ways...
Rip to my yung azz killa field boy luh tez g sosofairfield
T.I.P Luh Tez G on BOS we gone hold a tru soulja down no matter wat 25-UNO-11 Frat Bruh gone but never forgotten
T.I.P FieldBoy Luh Tez G Gone But Not Forgotten See U When I Make It Home......... R.I.P Soulja Boy Tez G (Sent via GO SMS)
What the heck...I can't make out some (most) of the words, much less the meaning. I'm always taken aback when I hear a black person from England speak. It sounds educated, people friendly, and so on to my ear even when they may be thugs, too.
I hold the Ebonics movement partly responsible for this. Why do a bunch of American blacks speak the way they do.
One of the priests at my church is Ugandan. I could listen to his voice forever - it is so kind and so comforting. He does not see color at our church and, with our teachings, neither do the congregants. We love him!
What is T.I.P.?
“Also, ‘T.I.P.’ is slang for ‘Thug In Peace’.”
I asked that very question further down the thread.
“Beware of those who would disregard the law.”
Thought for a moment I was on an Obama thread! /s
“At the same time, when you have to kill someone, even justifiably, it is no picnic. “
My son shot someone and never felt better-—because HE IS ALIVE and the thug is dead.
One doesn’t always experience TV-cop-showish anguish over shooting someone that was going to kill you.
Others may differ.
I absolutely agree with you. The 2nd Amendment IS the PERMISSION!
When, why and how was permission from gov brought about?
Just like Al Queda and, come to think of it, the Occupy protestors.”
Had not occurred to me but what you say makes sense.
Countries like Syria and Lebanon have their masters too when it comes to jerking around Israel - proxy wars.
The accomplice could be charged with all sorts of things, such as conspiracy, along with all the charges stemming from the original crime. What was supposed to be a simple armed robbery has probably turned into a life sentence for the accomplice.
Even though that is genuine we will probably never see it on tv......will see pics of him at 5 years old holding a puppy.
Well, much as the term "niggaz" is a somewhat acceptable reference to black urban youths, the terms reference above mean White urban youths, Hispanic urban youths, and Jewish urban youths.
“Thugdom is celebrated and I can show you a couple of dozen pictures of white kids from good middle class families who a have had equally stupid pictures on FB.”
Not only middle class, but RICH...I mean BIG rich. Trust me....
“Whats the answer?”
I think if ‘white’ Americans (AKA Taxpayers) would simply agree to reparations to 100% of all African Americans, we could, as Rodney King suggested, “All just get along.”
Do I need a sarcasm tag?
“.....RICH...I mean BIG rich. Trust me....”
That has to be rare.