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OK I(actually my Daughter) got on of those "Red Light Camera" "Tickets". Any Advice...
03 May 2012 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 05/03/2012 8:48:26 AM PDT by US Navy Vet

...on how to fight it?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; US: Iowa
KEYWORDS: councilbluffs; vanity
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To: matthew fuller

Their’s an e-mail that goes around about a fellow who recived a red light camera ticket. With a copy of a picture of him running a red light.

So he mails them a picture copy of a check paying the fine.

They mail back a picture of handcuffs and a jail cell.

Game over. He lost. He mailed in a real check.


41 posted on 05/03/2012 9:13:52 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: US Navy Vet

We get bills for tolls our daughter doesn’t pay. I pay them - but I had her tax refund this year deposited in our account!


42 posted on 05/03/2012 9:21:02 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Skip the election and let Thomas Sowell choose the next President.)
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To: US Navy Vet

ouch...I’ve had them. She needs to take the responsibility and pay up...actually a good lesson learned.


43 posted on 05/03/2012 9:23:18 AM PDT by oust the louse (Mitt...it's time to quit !!!!! ...)
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To: Night Hides Not

Good on you! Witnessed three teenage girls run a red light, T-Bone a van with a young man just released from the hospital after neck surgery, he was wearing a halo. By the grace of God alone no one was hurt, girls argued about the light, but I witnessed it and gave my testimony. They have to learn even if it is the hard way.


44 posted on 05/03/2012 9:23:47 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO
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To: US Navy Vet
(Well, you could bribe the judge...but that would probably cost you a whole lot more...and kind of defeat the purpose of the thread)
45 posted on 05/03/2012 9:24:12 AM PDT by Colofornian (Mom when I grow up, I want 2B like Ike. Mom when I grow up, I want 2B a god from Kolob like Mitt.)
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To: oh8eleven

You’ll get a Bench Warrant placed on you. Proof or not - they still will want to see you in court to know why you think you’re so awesome that you don’t feel you need to pay the fine.

Bench Warrant = No Fun.

If she ran it; pay it. If she didn’t find a lawyer who will represent for half the fine amount.


46 posted on 05/03/2012 9:27:55 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: DAC21

The judge in traffic court here reduces fines if you show up and here in Bakersfield if you have to make payments on a fine they tack on an additional $45 fee.

If you don’t pay the fine, they could add it to your car registration fee and tack on penalties.


47 posted on 05/03/2012 9:29:14 AM PDT by Chainsawj (Looks like I have NOBODY to vote FOR, I'll just vote againest the dems.......AGAIN.)
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To: DAC21

The judge in traffic court here reduces fines if you show up and here in Bakersfield if you have to make payments on a fine they tack on an additional $45 fee.

If you don’t pay the fine, they could add it to your car registration fee and tack on penalties.


48 posted on 05/03/2012 9:29:28 AM PDT by Chainsawj (Looks like I have NOBODY to vote FOR, I'll just vote againest the dems.......AGAIN.)
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To: eyedigress

Tell me about your Cobra. How does it find a police with a laser speed detector, which is what got me the last time?


49 posted on 05/03/2012 9:32:03 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: Noamie

I don’t need your advice. Tell US Navy Vet.


50 posted on 05/03/2012 9:38:47 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: US Navy Vet

In some places, such as TN, you can go to court and they will send you to traffic school. There’ll still be a fine, but it won’t hit your record and cause your insurance to go up, which usually dwarfs the fine.


51 posted on 05/03/2012 9:49:28 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

I live in Florida and my sister in Colorado. I was visiting her about 9 months ago and she generously lent me her car while I was there. We don’t have the photo tickets in Florida. Well, I went through a Florida green light and saw what appeared to be a lightning bolt...got flashed. My sister was upset (she was riding with me) and told me in her oh so gentle way I just cost her money and she will get the ticket blah...blah...blah...well being the bratty little brother that I am, on that ride home, I compiled several other pictures. My sister was absolutely apoplectic on arrival to her home 8-)


52 posted on 05/03/2012 9:58:06 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America)
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To: bluetick

“If one of these sort of tickets ever shows up in my mail box, I’ll be inclined to treat it as the junk mail that is is (especially one for speeding - I do have a little more respect for red lights).”

Exactly! There is actually no proof of service. When you get a ticket from a cop, you sign the ticket and “promise to appear.” Nothing like that happens with photo radar. It’s also good to find out how the local Traffic Court Judge views these “citations.” Our’s would not recognize them on the basis of lack of proof of service.


53 posted on 05/03/2012 10:04:14 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: US Navy Vet

“The REAL BITCH about this is it it a Council Bluffs Iowa “Ticket” and when we got (w/out a hearing) found “responsible” the Paper sait to mail the “fine”(extortion) to Cleveland Ohio. I HATE IOWA sometimes!”

The Cleveland Ohio address that you send the “fine” to is more than likely the company that leased the camera to the town in Iowa.

It is a major scam because they claim it’s for “safety” yet the camera companies and the cities/towns never provide any proof to back up their claims.

Two, up to 80% of the “fine” goes to the company that owns the camera system.

Three, they always install the cameras at intersections where there is high tractor trailer or out of state traffic knowing full well that the truck drivers, companies, and out of state motorists will just pay the fine instead of contesting it.

Four, a lot of times they don’t post signs warning that there is a camera at the intersection, or have it posted in such a way that it’s either not easily visible, or too close to the intersection thus not giving ample warning.

Sometimes state laws prohibit “remote” devices such as red light and speed cameras. I know that there was one state that got sued because they would have a state trooper in an unmarked van or SUV sitting on the side of the road with a radar, and down the road were marked cars doing the actual stops. The suit was because the trooper with the radar wasn’t the one physically making the stops. You know the whole right to face one’s accuser and all. The state lost the suit.


54 posted on 05/03/2012 10:06:38 AM PDT by 2CAVTrooper ( For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
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To: gas_dr

I bet she doesn’t make that mistake again. Maybe she will still lend you bus money.


55 posted on 05/03/2012 10:07:40 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: US Navy Vet

I once got a photocopy of me running a red light

so I sent them a photocopy of my check to pay it

didn’t work


56 posted on 05/03/2012 10:08:04 AM PDT by patriotsoul
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To: US Navy Vet
I'm not a fan of red light cameras, but the key question is one of intent. Did she intend to run the light or just get stuck in the intersection, for example - due to traffic turning in front of her?

If she tried to beat the light and failed - make her pay. It's a good lesson.

57 posted on 05/03/2012 10:10:21 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Ask the judge to exercise your right to confront your accuser in court.


58 posted on 05/03/2012 10:12:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: US Navy Vet

The OTHER BITCH about all of this is that there is NO “Traffic Court” “Judge” the Council Bluffs City Attorney’s Office appears to be running this ENTIRE SCAM!


59 posted on 05/03/2012 10:17:35 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: US Navy Vet

When they installed these in downtown Redding, I quit shopping there, and let the city council know why. Switched to nearby Anderson instead. These were installed supposedly to improve safety of a couple problem intersections, but they were clearly reveneue generators hyped by certain councilmen and the out-of-state company that operated the cameras. The fines were huge, and the city only got a small percentage of. The out-of-state camera operating company got to keep most of the revenue generated. Some people felt these cameras actually caused more accidents due to people slamming their breaks on yellow and getting rear ended because of fear of these cameras catching them in the intersection on red.


60 posted on 05/03/2012 10:23:46 AM PDT by Reddon
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