Skip to comments.Russia threatens to strike NATO missile defense sites
Posted on 05/03/2012 12:33:33 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
Russias most senior military officer said Thursday that Moscow would preemptively strike and destroy U.S.-led NATO missile defense sites in Eastern Europe if talks with Washington about the developing system continue to stall.
A decision to use destructive force preemptively will be taken if the situation worsens, Russian Chief of General Staff Nikolai Makarov said at an international missile defense conference in Moscow attended by senior U.S. and NATO officials.
The threat comes as talks about the missile defense system, which the U.S. and its allies insist is aimed at Iranian missiles, appear to have stalled.
We have not been able to find mutually-acceptable solutions at this point and the situation is practically at a dead end, Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said.
Ellen Tauscher, the U.S. special envoy for strategic stability and missile defense, insisted the talks about NATO plans for a missile defense system using ground-based interceptor missiles stationed in Poland, Romania and Turkey were not stalemated.
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I agree with an earlier poster that this is all a ruse, so Hussein can “stand up” to Russia to win votes, and THEN give away the farm after the election.
This was probably part of the plan since Hussein hussled the captured Russian spies back to Russia in a huge hurry.
“Now we see the fruits of the Obama Doctrine: Peace through weakness.”
And peas in our time.
FUBO, and the media sycophants you rode in on!
Sadly yes. But it will be under Obama. That I believe.
Lessee....Putin was back seat driving until what a week ago, and now he’s jumped over the headrest back into the drivers seat.
Seems to me he is beating his chest, and flipping the wee birdie to the very weak Obama Administration. Sounds something like “reset this Community Organizer”.
Just a quick caution. Please be very careful regarding any comment linking physical harm and the President.
I’m sure you were not threatening POTUS in any way, but I would hate to see a situation where the USSS, which I’m sure monitors FR, would mistakenly think you were. That would be bad for all of us.
Are you saying Russia is concerned about Muslim takeover of Europe?
I don't give a damn what country's missiles were going after; make the damn thing work, work well and work every time and tell the world such with a stern warning; "The very best parts of your country will go missing if we have to use our system."
Has it occurred to anyone that russian intelligence has concluded their agent obama won’t win reelection? They have to get what they can now.
or in bed with a guy....
C’mon dudeskis...obammy said if you’ll give him some flexability he’ll help y’all out after the election. Remember?
Absolutely not, but RR would have had NATO in complete control.
Observe how NATO was used against Libya by Zero, compared to Reagan's strike to completely reign in Qaddafi. Reagan did it right, and put Qaddafi under the US thumb for life. Bush disarmed his nukes.
Zero got oil for Europe, and cash, gold and weapons for Muslim Brotherhood terrorist war against Israel. We got to pay the terrorists.
The operative word here is “threatens” The Russkies have been threatening to do this or that since I was in 3rd grade. They know they can push Barry around. Thats going to end in Nov when we throw him out on his ear. Mitt may not be my personal choice but I doubt he will bend to the Russians.
This is just one part of the “more flexability,” Obama was telling Medved to pass on to Putin.
The Man who despises America
In parts of Europe, yes.
Observe Russia's reaction to the Clintoon NATO war against the Serbs and the Islamization of Kosovo, they were NOT happy.
Observe the Putin engineered punishment of Georgia (identical justification as Serbia) where Russia demonstrated what happens if you have an interest in joining NATO (Georgia; Ukraine) and wish to kiss Western European ass.
Observe how Putin has Chechnya on the barbecue.
Still, it is really about the Russian Empire and how all Europe will be a part of it. The Western European states will just have to suffer their Muslims as well as Russia, or they could send their infidels to fight to protect Muslims, if they wish.
What say you Ernie?
President Bush is not a coward, and he is absolutely not a traitor and I am sure Romney is neither, but men of General George S. Patton's courage are few and far between, and almost never President.
Would Putin pull the trigger? He already has, and dared NATO or the US to come to the aid of Georgia.
Why not? He had been bending over since Frank Marshall Davis introduced him to the business!
This thread should be pinged to the 0h0m0sexual agenda ping list, composite/compressed "girlfriends" not withstanding!
This is like buying a bullet proof vest and putting it on and walking outside and your next door heighbor starts taking shots at you BECAUSE you are wearing a bulletproff desk....
That is indeed a possibility.
Interestingly, Putin has endorsed Zero's reelection and actually contributed to his campaign. (Yeah, I know it's illegal, he did it anyway.)
But the big thing is: Russia doesn't need to wait.
They can do this now, or with whatever President we have on January 14, 2013, it doesn't matter what we do.
However the meeting is now and Putin gets to show his strength as he takes office in Russia. there are a lot of Russian nationalists that love this kind of display of Russian strength.
Actually, we have had the bullet proof vest on for some time, Patriot 3 is operational in the US.
This is a quicker reacting system we will provide for Europe, and its not in place yet. It's like there is a third neighbor (Europe) between the two and they will shoot at him if he tries to put on the bullet proof vest we gave him.
I throw this out for what ever it is worth. Six months ago at a meeting, I made friends with two Russian Cosmonauts who were retired Colonels (the same military rank as I) were discussing our relative countries positions. After several bottles of wine, we were definite friends. All I can say is to solve the worlds problems, supply French Wine. This was at a meeting in Peru.
That was my take on it when I saw the headline on Drudge.
They are enjoying the fact that there is a singularly weak and foolish “American” as Commander in Chief, but they understand that their current good fortune is a rapidly wasting asset, so they are going to try and get what they can while the getting is still good.
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The Republic you save may be your own.
Thanks Navy Patriot.
Now I consider Marxists, Communists and Islamicists my mortal enemies, and liberals, progressives and socialists criminals.
I consider Russian, Chinese, Korean, and Vietnamese people tough competitors.
Separating who is Communist, or STILL Communist, and who is not, is now very difficult, and very important.
We can get along with competitors form a position of economic and military strength, but we can never get along with Communists or Islamicists.
A reasonable and worthy sentiment, in a world in which America has a C-in-C unfailingly and without hesitation committed to the defense and survival of America.
But, . . . ?????
1.) China announces several years back that they had begun an economic war against the US.
2.) Russia has been threatening NATO in regards to missile defense sites in Europe.
3.) NATO is meeting in Chicago at McCormick Place on the Near South Side in 2 weeks.
4.) There are planned “military exercises” for the NEXT week/weekend involving Russian paratroopers using US weapons and armament to “take and hold” the CIA main computer building in CO, the NSA main computer building in Utah, as well as Denver International Airport. Add to that the Chinese DESTROYERS, SUBS, and HOSPITAL SHIP that are sailing across the Pacific at this moment?
Anyone else a little confused as to how our President or our military can justify holding joint military exercises with countries who are threatening our safety and stability, and that of the entire Western World?
This smells to high heaven, especially when you add in the ties between these countries and terrorists, Fast and Furious and the connection between cartels and terrorist cells, Obama’s insistence on NOT enforcing illegal immigration laws...
Am I alone in seeing this, or are others (esp. current or former military personnel) seeing how bad this may indeed be. I fear that Obama is enough of an idiot to LET Russia and China take over thinking they’ll let him have a piece of the pie or something.
In other words am I the ONLY one that doesn’t trust the Russians and Chinese to actually LET GO of those sites once they’re inside???
Yeah, organizing military training exercises WITH the Russians and the Chinese - what you expected him to PROTECT us?
I don’t know where you get this. I wrote Osama as in Osama Bin Laden... It takes more than ordering a hit on Osama to insure global safety, it is a more comprehensive approach.
Of course, here the Soviet aparatus is somehow trying to trigger a default to UN and international bureaucratic subserviance in the creating of this problem, and they feel confident to navigate this political-military-bureau complex to their peace benefit.
This is a pretext because the Soviet/Russia aparatus sees itself losing on the Iranian front eventualy, looking like they are the real freaks of the world. So they have to precipitate a conflict over third party reasons such as the nuclear shield or what not.
As for Obama himself, he sure is inadequate to say the least, and punishing others of his own presence of incompetence in self hate, much like rapists do. He has lived by the rape as a raped child, and, much like a prostitute feminists who only see men through the prism of sex, it is all that Obama is looking at things, rape or accept being raped. He has no other imagination.
The automatisms of quick condemnation he preaches I do not, but discoveries, trials and tribulations it will be. The only ones threatening the President are those who are corrupt and who live by automatisms and empowerments - Columbia scandal style. That was an epic moment in making this bureaucratic thuggery acceptable in his own very bureaucratic circle. WHat was it he said? FORWARD? OH, really...
Of course, anyone else then is going to be picked at as a result... “Rusky” hypocrite style.
I haven’t been following this stuff for many years. I just think back to all the “it will never work” comments back at the start of the SDI programs. Guess it does work. If it didn’t the Russians wouldn’t be so worked up about it.
It's the entanglements and stupid "relationships", the ones the ignoramuses of MFN/NAFTA/globalists claim to be for, yet they have no clue about real relationships beyond making a quick easy buck. The State Department is neck deep to the nose in that excrement of "relationships", these cowards who only think about getting first class tickets and medical care wherever they work, and having it all nicey nice around them, so much so they did not want to go to Iraq and do their jobs.
These relationships are a psycho passive aggressive behavior of our enemies, much like the psycho who wants to wear the same cloth as you and have the same looks and hair, before going to kill you. It's a two prongued attack, one with a nuclear face, the other with a nicey nice infiltration and control and destruction of identity resulting in a paralysis from ability to effectively retaliate.
But there also is a creepy motion by the RUssians here. They want to be nicey nice with us, controling the SDI project, stealing our jobs and identities, so to speak, being friends by force of threats, basically. And we are letting them intimidate us.
This is what it is all about: surrender or we will attack, in gradual fashions of “relationship” “building”.
Also, this is not about war, this is about control.
Russia is perfectly happy with the anti missile system being built, but Russia insists that Russians will have the root passwords to the system and Russian technicians will man the control centers for the missiles.
They are fine with it if they control the system. If not, it won't be built.
Zero can play tough and give the Russians the passwords and control centers quietly, APPEARING to back the Russians down and build the system.
All of your examples are similar form of quiet cooperation with Russia and China, so yes, there is a pattern here.
What few people remember is Reagan offered to share the SDI technology with the Russians (Gorbachev) to prove they could trust him and the US.
"Trust but verify" did work both ways and the Russians dealt with Reagan with respect and trust, Reagan returned the same with inspections for both sides, by both sides.
Not a shot was fired, not a shot was threatened, and the Soviet Union (and the Warsaw Pact) went away because it wasn't necessary.
Now look what Clintoon and Zero have wrought by being untrustworthy cowards.
We truly need a Ronald Reagan, wise strong, trustworthy.
My absolute stupidity.
Sorry ‘bout that.
There is a big difference between attacking Georgia and attacking our missile defense system. We would be forced to respond. The Russkies know that.
Bush should have seen Georgia coming but for some reason he didn’t. I think he really thought he and .
Vlad were buddies. After the fact there wasn’t a lot he could do. Sarkozy carried our water on that one.
Like we responded when our military assets were taken by North Korea and China?
These are also on foreign soil, and the state involved may not wish to incur the Russian wrath that would descend upon it for allowing the US to respond? When has France or Italy ever defended themselves?
What has happened to states cooperative with the US recently when they needed assistance like peaceful Egypt?
Finally would Zero give the order?
How many American cities would you sacrifice to protect France from Iranian missiles?
Like I said the Russians are good at threats. They are not going to attack a NATO missile shield. Not gonna happen. If The quisling we jokingly refer to as the president was not sitting in the oval office they probably wouldn’t even make that threat.
Hiding under his desk.
Russia, along with several other globalist entities including many American politicians and corporations, will not stand idly by and watch this once in a lifetime opportunity to “revolutionize” the world disappear.
The misery will not last very long - their wicked acts will come to an end.
Russia and China are aligned with Iran and those three will be soon aligned with the EU...just how in the world does that qualify as backing Christianity over Islam?
There ya go.
The Russians know their “guy”...
...obama is America.
And the Russians have pretty much figured out obama...