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North’s submarines go off the radar (North Korea)
Korea Joongang Daily ^ | May ?, 2012 | Jeong Yong-soo, Kim Hee-jin

Posted on 05/03/2012 2:30:12 PM PDT by dynachrome

After Pyongyang threatened to wage “special action” against Seoul, a number of North Korean submarines have disappeared, a South Korean government official told the JoongAng Ilbo.

“Eight or nine submarines of the North’s East Sea Fleet are missing from our radar,” the high-ranking South Korean official said on Monday. “We are figuring out whether the submarines are conducting a military drill or an actual mission.

“The missing submarines vary in size, from the 1,000-ton shark-class vessel to a former Soviet Romeo-class one (1,300 ton),” the official added.

Military sources say that North Korea currently owns roughly 70 submarines, including the 1,500-ton Rajin-class vessels or Yugo-class infiltration coastal ships. When North Korean submarines are anchored at base, they can be seen by a satellite.

It’s been more than a week since the North publicly threatened to attack Seoul, saying they will stage special military action in an unprecedented, “peculiar” way.

Police have beefed up security near local broadcasting and newspaper companies, which North Korea has pinpointed as “sources of provocation,” to counter a possible military attack.

(Excerpt) Read more at koreajoongangdaily.joinsmsn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: northkorea; submarines
Not sure of the date, but seems recent.
1 posted on 05/03/2012 2:30:20 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

First, it would be a good idea to find them.

Second, maybe they sank.


2 posted on 05/03/2012 2:36:04 PM PDT by lurk
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To: dynachrome
...Police have beefed up security near local broadcasting and newspaper companies, which North Korea has pinpointed as “sources of provocation,” ...

Well ... I can't say that I ever agreed with the NORKs on anything in the past, but I have to agree that broadcasting and newspaper companies are certainly a 'source of provocation'... Maybe I should mail them the addresses of the NYT and WashCompost...

3 posted on 05/03/2012 2:37:00 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: dynachrome
...Police have beefed up security near local broadcasting and newspaper companies, which North Korea has pinpointed as “sources of provocation,” ...

Well ... I can't say that I ever agreed with the NORKs on anything in the past, but I have to agree that broadcasting and newspaper companies are certainly a 'source of provocation'... Maybe I should mail them the addresses of the NYT and WashCompost...

4 posted on 05/03/2012 2:37:10 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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...My second double post today... My computer is not behaving properly. It is almost becoming a ‘source of provocation’.


5 posted on 05/03/2012 2:38:47 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: dynachrome

They might have went under water.


6 posted on 05/03/2012 2:38:54 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: dynachrome
“Eight or nine submarines of the North’s East Sea Fleet are missing from our radar,”

I'm not sure about these kinds of things but don't things have to be flying to be tracked by radar? Did he mean 'sonar'?

7 posted on 05/03/2012 2:42:53 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch ( go in peace , serve the Lord)
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To: KoRn
LOL....
8 posted on 05/03/2012 2:43:28 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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To: dynachrome

Last I heard, the NKs sunk a SK destroyer when they were unable to locate certain NK subs. Part deux?


9 posted on 05/03/2012 2:44:16 PM PDT by Mashood
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To: dynachrome
Eight or nine submarines of the North’s East Sea Fleet
are missing from our radar,

Sonar?
Radar would be weird

11 posted on 05/03/2012 3:10:20 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge
"Eight or nine submarines of the North’s East Sea Fleet are missing from our radar,"

And why would we or our allies announce this to the world?

I don't believe it.

12 posted on 05/03/2012 3:18:37 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Any Republican. Just NO Obama.)
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To: dynachrome

Not on radar. But certainly on sonar.


13 posted on 05/03/2012 3:20:38 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: dynachrome

Maybe they sank.


14 posted on 05/03/2012 3:22:15 PM PDT by Morgana (I only come here to see what happens next. It normally does.)
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To: HangnJudge

Let’s assume that NKs literally go ballistic one day and force the US to liquidate the NK capital and its military. The NKs would undoubtedly level Seoul and Incheon, which house almost half the Korean population, but much of the industry in the south would be untouched (assuming whomever is the US President acted immediately to decapitate the NK regime). The Chinese would likely move into the northern part of NK for “security” reasons and the middle of the Korean peninsula would become a nuclear no-go zone. My questions are: whether the US would immediately pour its resources into protecting what remains of Korea or if it would limit itself to humanitarian aid? And, would the Chinese be prepared to see a united democratic Korea on its border while it still had a major US military presence? If the NK leadership was sane, I wouldn’t ask the questions, but it is just this kind of madmen that could precipitate a nuclear war. For all their evil oppression of their own people. neither Mao nor Bhreznev were suicidal. They firmly believed the US would use nukes to protect their interests. The NKs may have deluded themselves into believing the US won’t act, or that the Chi-coms would come to their defence in the event of a US nuclear retaliatory strike. Scary world.


15 posted on 05/03/2012 3:27:59 PM PDT by littleharbour
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To: lurk

Andrei... you’ve lost another submarine?


16 posted on 05/03/2012 3:28:52 PM PDT by MindBender26 (New Army SF and Ranger Slogan: Vengeance is Mine, sayeth the Lord.... but He subcontracts!)
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To: Pirsig289

That does not mean the US would tell S Korea though


17 posted on 05/03/2012 3:36:31 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: dynachrome
“Eight or nine submarines of the North’s East Sea Fleet are missing from our radar,”

That happens every time a sub submerges.

18 posted on 05/03/2012 4:13:15 PM PDT by fso301
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To: dynachrome

I think it would be just peachy, as well as payback for the Cheonan sinking, if four of the Norks more modern boats just submerged and never again surfaced. The only noise would be those subs going ‘pop’ below crush depth, but with no explanation why.

Either the USN, or those darn Krakens.


19 posted on 05/03/2012 6:15:15 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: dynachrome
The South Koreans should just phone 1-688-ATTACK-SUB. I'd be more than willing to bet that the US Navy knows exactly where those subs are.
20 posted on 05/03/2012 6:25:19 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Bob; yefragetuwrabrumuy
The ROK Navy has 11 Type 209 submarines and 3 Type 214 submarines.
21 posted on 05/04/2012 12:32:42 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: rmlew

While the MK-48 torpedo is positively a *mother*, what we need here is something more discreet. It doesn’t even have to be too high tech.

Someone suggested putting a very large concrete block on a surface ship, with heavy cables through the block. Then as the Nork boat passes nearby disable its screws with heavy fishing net connected to those cables. Then drop the concrete block overboard, dragging the sub due south, butt first.

The only sound that is heard on sonar is the pop when it hits crush depth. And even if someone decides to inspect the wreck, all they will find is fishing net.


22 posted on 05/04/2012 7:07:54 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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