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What do we mean when we say small government, ie, constitutionally limited government?
Jim Robinson
Posted on 05/03/2012 3:05:31 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
I just want to be left alone to make my own way in life without every cent sucked out of me.
Its a scary thing to be middle aged and getting poorer by the second and have no family to rely on as I get older. Its even scarier to know that neither political party has any intent of releasing us from the prison they’ve built.
I’m finished with listening to promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:12:12 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: Jim Robinson
That might mean freeloaders don’t get free stuff.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:16:51 PM PDT
by
Libloather
(The epitome of civility.)
To: Jim Robinson
I’m still wondering where my chicks are at.
To: Jim Robinson
It's a never ending list and rapidly expanding as fast as our now virtually UNLIMITED unconstitutional BIG government is rapidly expanding, regardless of party in powerA Large Government and a Free People cannot peacefully Coexist.
Much like Big Government Republicans and The Tea Party cannot Peacefully coexist within the same party, one MUST be forced out.
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.
-- John Quincy Adams
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:18:13 PM PDT
by
KC_Lion
(A Romney victory means that the socialistsÂ’ takeover of both parties is now complete)
To: cripplecreek
Im finished with listening to promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years. Millard Filmore 1852! So we can keep Comprising with the Democrats while achieving little in return!
P.S. That is going to be my new Tagline.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:22:08 PM PDT
by
KC_Lion
(IÂ’m finished with listening to empty promises of the great GOP saving me in 4 more years.)
To: Jim Robinson
Article 1, Section 8 enumerates those items for which the federal government may tax, spend and oversee. It is my view that the vast majority of what our federal government does is unconstitutional...
I, personally may have been happier to retain the Articles of Confederation, but it, too, had inherent flaws...a malady common to all human governance.
We use General Welfare, the Commerce clause and Stare Decisis to reach the inevitable decline that all republics must suffer.
per James Madison:
"With respect to the two words "general welfare," I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators. If the words obtained so readily a place in the "Articles of Confederation," and received so little notice in their admission into the present Constitution, and retained for so long a time a silent place in both, the fairest explanation is, that the words, in the alternative of meaning nothing or meaning everything, had the former meaning taken for granted."
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:26:44 PM PDT
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: Jim Robinson
Per my reply on another thread...:
1) DC illegally takes most of the state's money and then bribes or buys them into submission. States need to reestablish direct taxes as theirs alone. DC must apportion tax money raised by states via direct or other taxes per USC.
2) States no longer have a seat in congress: the House is people and Senate is states. Similar to English parliament: Lords(states) Common(people). This problem is related to #1, also.
3) Interstate Commerce and General Welfare did not provide a magic way out of enumerated powers; not lawful. To change USC fundamentally requires a USC amendment. USC is USG contract w/ states/people and it may be changed this way, only.
4) Fiat currency is tied to the Corporate Excise Tax of 1909, which unlawfully because individualized. USG has the power to _coin_ money, specie, all the Fathers knew exactly what this meant. USC means what it meant when it was created. Not what it means after wicked people change the meanings of words to bend USC to their illegal purposes.
5) Judges are not allowed to legislate from the bench, laws are created by the legislature and judged by courts: judges and the people in the jury!
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:29:17 PM PDT
by
veracious
To: cripplecreek
Dude, preach it! I’m working for down ticket TEA Party candidates wherever I can support them. I tied myself in knots defending some of the “compassionate conservative” pieces of President Bush; I supported mccain when Sarah came on the ticket. I “came into politics” during Dole. NOW I have this Romeny idiot as my only choice? Screw that. No longer anything GOP here, I’m just a Constitutional Conservative and to all those out there that try and lay that bullshit line on me “not voting for Romney is a vote for Obama”; piss off, party hack.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:31:11 PM PDT
by
Michael Barnes
(Obamaa+ Downgrade)
To: Jim Robinson
Marriage can be covered under the clause of fixing values of weights and
measures as it is generally accepted that standardized legal definitions are an accepted form of measure. Preserving the legal definitions within contracts assures equal legal protection for all individuals across varying jurisdictions. Federalist 42 expands on the weights and measures clause to describe it as:
..to prescribe the manner in which the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of each State shall be proved..
In other words, congress can and should preserve the legal definition of marriage in the same way they are charged with insuring that all legal standards are clearly defined and uniform.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:31:52 PM PDT
by
mnehring
To: KC_Lion; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; tubebender; BOBTHENAILER; ...
"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost.-- John Quincy Adams
I absolutely cherish that quote! Absolutely!!!
I'm BOOKMARKING this thread. Thank you JR, for making it so thoughtful!!!
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:33:48 PM PDT
by
SierraWasp
(Negativity must die because it's self-fulfilling!!!)
To: Jim Robinson
Personally, when I say 'small government', I mean government staffed entirely by midgets.
Preferably, midgets in clown outfits.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:35:07 PM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(To the wall, street occupiers!!!!!)
To: mnehring
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:38:55 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Rebellion is on!!)
To: Jim Robinson
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:39:37 PM PDT
by
Jacquerie
(No court will save us from ourselves.)
To: mnehring
And I thought weights and measures applied to the bathroom scales, which may regulate marriage to some degree.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:42:28 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Rebellion is on!!)
To: Lazamataz
We here at The Lollipop Guild are in total support (although we’re hearing rumblings from the dwarves and pygmies who feel they are under-represented)
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:44:14 PM PDT
by
gorush
(History repeats itself because human nature is static)
To: Michael Barnes
I tied myself in knots defending some of the compassionate conservative pieces of President Bush; I supported mccain when Sarah came on the ticket. I came into politics during Dole. NOW I have this Romeny idiot as my only choice? Screw that. No longer anything GOP here, Im just a Constitutional Conservative and to all those out there that try and lay that bullshit line on me not voting for Romney is a vote for Obama; piss off, party hack.
I'm with you all the way. I can accept some seriously flawed candidates as long as they're willing to unlock the gates of this fiscal prison.
There's just such incredible fiscal stupidity out there that I no longer recognize my nation or most of the people living in it. Nobody can go without anything any more. Jackson Michigan just announced that they "need" 6 figures to repave a freakin bike path. I just want to pound my head on the wall some days.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:46:16 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
To: Jim Robinson
LOL, I’m not going there.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:46:31 PM PDT
by
mnehring
To: Jacquerie
Thank you very much. Great thread!
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:47:09 PM PDT
by
Jim Robinson
(Rebellion is on!!)
To: cripplecreek
You cant even take a dump or turn on a “light bulb” without Government interference.
IM SURE THATS HOW THE FOUNDING FATHERS WANTED IT.
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posted on
05/03/2012 3:50:37 PM PDT
by
Delta 21
(Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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