If Romney wins it will be like celebrating our "ally" Stalin taking Berlin in WW2. Lots more work to do.
Posted on 05/04/2012 2:42:57 AM PDT by RDAardvark
No one asked you to ‘endorse’ the RINO Liar except perhaps the Liar himself or you decided to suck up to the his people in order to get a shot at a cabinet post.
Your credibility and leadership just took another hit and is a further notch down on the list of credible conservatives.
Speaker of the House you will not be.
Good grief you are either in denial or delusional.
A simple Google search would show just how many Representatives have endorsed Romney and it is no small amount.
But just keep living in your little world.
Uh, not quite. Romney basically destroyed any candidate who did not self-destruct first. He engaged in scorched-earth politics that makes re-uniting the party all that much harder, especially after the GOP-E knifed Sarah Palin in the back in 2008 and Tea Party candidates in 2010. He was a phenomenally unpopular putative favorite and that was reflected in his low percentages early on.
The GOP-E has shown they will fight the Tea Party harder than they will fight Democrats, yet demand the Tea Party join them in taking out Obama.
So until the GOP-E decides that the Tea Party is more than an ally of temporary convenience, they are going to have a hell of a time selling their RINO du jour.
And that is what we are seeing on FR. Trying the hard-sell the party unity theme to Romney critics - after the GOP-E showed that party unity meant bupkis to them in 2010 - aint' gonna cut it. And you're a fool for thinking the time-worn rose-colored glasses party unity sales pitch is gonna work after what the GOP-E has wrought upon the party.
If Romney wins it will be like celebrating our "ally" Stalin taking Berlin in WW2. Lots more work to do.
It seems that you are correct.
Ron Paul, too. Forgot him.
Ping
Over the past decade or so, the political system has devolved into a one party system - the party of the inside the beltway, elitist, opportunists, who, with their rigging the system, media outlets and super-pac money select the candidate for both the Democrat and the Republicans. For sake of convenience, I will call this party the Opportunists.
Both factions of this party attempt to keep "their base" in line by throwing an occasional bone. But, both factions have the same ultimate goals, bigger government, diminishing of the human spirit and individual liberty, more control, an ever increasing bureaucracy to regulate and control the people.
The result is that with a Republican at the helm or a Democrat at the helm, the country has drifted un-halted towards a system where these opportunists make and benefit from rules to benefit themselves and we the people must obey them.
When, not if, (because the insiders have selected him) The GOP selection takes office, the government will continue to get bigger, the bureaucracy will continue to grow, your rights will continue to be diminished, the favored will continue to benefit from our tax dollars and the freedom and liberty of we the people will be reduced even more.
The only real difference is one set of opportunists will have trumped the other set of opportunists this go round and this time they will get the benefits.
It's like an opportunist pig sty, with huge hogs, of the Democratic and Republican stripe, all at the trough, larding up on the government laws, regulations, and handouts. They may jockey for position amongst themselves for a bigger share of the largess, but one thing is certain, there is no room at the feeding trough for we the people.
You may opt to go into the smelly pig sty and vote for one candidate (convincing yourself you are making a difference) because he looks a bit smaller than the other pig at the trough, but remember their both pigs and neither one of them care a wit about you.
I choose not to enter the sty lest I will start to smell like the hogs I detest.
Thank you GOP. You have betrayed us again.
Well one only needs to review 1992 to see what's about to happen if we don't focus on one candidate, Romney. A rather weak Republican was challenged by Ross Perot and we got Bill Clinton.
Bill Clinton 43%, George HW Bush 37.5%, Ross Perot 18.9%
I consider Obama to be FAR WORSE than Bill Clinton. Obama has a sinister agenda that he can't wait to implement in his second term. Much more "flexibility" as he told comrade Medvedev.
Logic reveals price and the outcome for 2012
You can vote for the GOP-e's selection, but don't pretend you are making a difference.
True, yet so what? The November choice will be 0bama or Romney. When you come back to reality let me know. On second thought don't bother. I'm tired of discussing stuff with people who live in some sort of delusional world where a true conservative can come in at the last minute and win the presidency. As I said 0 or Romney is going to be the choice, and those who rightly think Romney is a liberal will have to decide if they want to vote for a third party and help 0 win or vote for Romney who still might not win.
0 has about 40% of the vote locked in already. The parasites love him. The blacks who voted for him because he's black will still vote for him since he's still black. Those with the occutard mentality will vote for him because they're too lazy and too cowardly to steal on their own. The election will come down to the "independents" and they aren't going to vote for some guy they've never heard of. So Goode might make the best president in the last 50 years, but Romney is going to be the only 0 alternative with a chance of beating the dog turd currently contaminating the white house.
IMO it is more likely that 4 years of Romney will yield more statist legislation than 4 years of Obama. Given a R Senate and an R Congress with a R President the reaching across the isle will be UFB.
It's like an opportunist pig sty, with huge hogs, of the Democratic and Republican stripe, all at the trough, larding up on the government laws, regulations, and handouts. They may jockey for position amongst themselves for a bigger share of the largess, but one thing is certain, there is no room at the feeding trough for we the people.
And if anyone comes along, be it Sarah Palin or the Tea Party folks, and suggests that the trough be downsized, well, the GOP-E hog will turn on that party with a savagery never experienced by the Dem hogs.
That is actually a good analogy. Just remember, within weeks of taking Berlin, we were bitter enemies with Stalin and he was out to destroy us.
The last two democrat presidents were fatherless/bastards
who couldn’t pass the background check to get into the whitehouse if they hadn’t been elected president.
da troof.
I agree 100%. Add to this that Obama appoints in your face subordinates who over time enrage the citizenry with their over the top statements. Romney is smarter, he will appoint people just as willing to deprive you of your liberty, but much stealthier in their approach.
Reality? What reality?
Socialism has festered under both the GOP and Dems. The failings of the GOP-E led directly to them diminishing the GOP brand to the point where Obama won in a cakewalk in 2008. The Tea Party rejuvinated the GOP brand in 2010, but the GOP-E has done its best to fight that change and wants to go back to the bad old days of the last decade.
The choice is not nearly as stark as pinheads like you make it out to be. And that is the fault of the GOP-E, not conservative critics. Saying that the GOP-E's socialist isn't as bad as the Dem's socialist still means socialism. And if Romney wins, it will entrench the GOP-E socialists in the party, when the goal of the Tea Party is to DIMINISH the clout of the BeltwayRINO socialists.
So do we vote for the Pyrrhic victory of Romney in 2012, or retreat to fight battles on our own ground in 2014 and 2016? That is the question all conservatives are sorting out for themselves. Jerks like you parroting the same old expired party loyalty schtick can stick it where it don't shine.
So, when Obama acts like a socialist, I don't care what he says, he's a socialist.
And, when Romney acts like a socialist, I don't care what he says, he's a socialist.
And, when a person claiming to be a conservative votes for a socialist, I don't care what he says, he's a socialist.
Frankly I don’t give a rat’s ass what you think. You’ve not only shown yourself to be delusional and incapable of rational discourse, but a rude flame boy as well. Go pat yourself on the back if 0 wins this fall and say “Wow! that’s so much better than Romney.”
Just giving your point of view the level of respect it deserves.
Which is none. If I want to be hectored by a hypocritical pinhead whose views helped decimate the GOP last decade, I'll watch Karl Rove on Fox News.
You can't be bothered to answer the GOP-E socialism problem, and all you can do is bleat like the brain-dead pinhead you are that Romney isn't as bad as Obama. That's ain't gonna win in November no matter how much the GOP-E wants to believe otherwise.
Whereas those of us who think long-term in rolling back socialism can see how a Romney presidency would set back that goal years. And will weigh out for ourselves where the fight needs to be taken.
Have fun voting for the liberal democrat who will ensure you lose no matter what.
Bet you got a tingle up your leg just thinking about it, yeah?
Uh huh.....
242 Republicans in the House
As of one week ago only 104 endorsed; not even half:
http://innovation.cq.com/pub/table/index.php?id=69
This is McCain Part II.
Have fun watching your guy go down in flames. He’ll be lucky to get 40% of the vote.
That’s the reality for you. Deal with it.
Tea Party is where I’m at. 2016 is the LATEST in which I see a conservative President take the helm.
Bachmann will be as she has already made herself to be a ‘has-been’.
Well, we KNOW you won’t be making a difference, don’t we?
I am voting conservative.
Sorry, but the real actions have already been done. The GOP-E already trashed the concept of party loyalty in 2010. And stood back and allowed Romney to destroy any alternative. Scorched-earth politics does not lend itself to party unity, and especially when the person doing the scorching could never break 30 percent in polling until all other candidates were eliminated.
I don't like Romney at all, and I know his candidacy is nothing but settling for 3rd-rate goods. But Obama is out to remake this nation into something he and Bill Ayers envision. I cannot idly stand by.
And what to expect from a President Romney? He still extolls Romneycare to this day. He supports TARP. He would forge a coalition of RINOs and Dems to circumvent the Tea Party. I see plenty of negatives with a Romney presidency as well - so the question has to be asked, would a Romney win represent a serious setback in long-term Tea Party and conservative efforts to wrest control of the GOP from the RINOs that trashed the party brand last decade? I think it would, and that has to be weighed into any decision to vote for Romney.
I understand your thought process and respect it.
I can’t justify voting for Romney before my God, and I hope you understand that as well.
This is the best reasons to vote for M. Romney. I would add two more words: Eric Holder. That man is out of control.
There are other ways to make a difference, besides walking into a voting booth and using a number 2 pencil blackening the oval after the Republicans name.
Leaving to pick wild plums. Be back later to check for your response.
She was my Congresscritter... But with the re-Districting... I don't know that she still is.
You mean like what happened after the RINO McCain lost his White House bid? The Tea Party took over, and did great in 2010. Then, in the 2012 primary we nominated a conserv... Wait, never mind.
The reason she is WRONG is this simple:
Obama’s Second Term = A United America and GOP opposing every breath he takes.
vs
Romney’s Term = A divided America and GOP with the establishment shoving the same socialism down our throats and saying how “decisive” the tea Party and Conservatives are, all the while telling us “it would be so much worse under Obama”.
Don’t buy that AGAIN people. It will NOT be worse, united against evil than it will be divided within.
Look at the replies to this post and others right now. WE ARE INEFFECTIVE AND IRRELEVANT BECAUSE WE ARE ALREADY DIVIDED.
Don’t stay home like 2006 - Get out and work your fingers to the bone... DOWN BALLOT. Just skip the top. Leave it BLANK or vote for Mickey Mouse.
If Romney wins while we are divided, they will have proven they do not need us.
242 Republicans in the House
As of one week ago only 104 endorsed; not even half:
http://innovation.cq.com/pub/table/index.php?id=69
This is McCain Part II.
Have fun watching your guy go down in flames. He’ll be lucky to get 40% of the vote.
That’s the reality for you. Deal with it.
Tea Party is where I’m at. 2016 is the LATEST in which I see a conservative President take the helm.
Wow where to start with your two inaccurate posts.
You say not many House Republicans have endorsed Romney and when challenged come bace with not even half.
Well by your numbers, which I think are now larger, about 43% of the Republicans in the house have endorsed Romney. To most people 43% at this point would be a significant number. But not to someone who doesn't like to admit they were inaccurate. However you were inaccurate.
Now to your statement that Romney will be lucky to get 40% of the vote. That is absurd and baring some major 3rd party entry I would be more than willing to make you a substantial bet that he goes over 4)5.
If you want your points to be taken seriously quit distorting the truth to fit you point. Bachmann will be as she has already made herself to be a ‘has-been’.
It’s not any worse. In my view, it’s equal. The two don’t stand for anything measurably different. They’re both anti-life, they’re both liberal in their economic outlook. They both favor statist big government and they both favor the wrong view on healthcare.
However, as a social conservative, and since I believe that social conservatism is the basis for conservatism in general since it teaches us the difference between right and wrong, I can’t support Romney.
Hope the plums are delicious!
Exactly correct. It’d be one thing if there was ANY leadership in Congress from the GOP-e; I might consider holding my nose. But to lemming-ly follow turd #2, just because he’s ‘our’ turd?? That’s as brain dead as the Dems.
Some around here think that Romney, w/ the feckless Congress, will actually turn back the clock: un-pass laws, strip the EPA/NSA/TSA/etc.? PLEASE
At least voting ‘present’ or 3rd party I know I didn’t lend a hand in bringing the Republic to its knees.
The Tea Party as a grass roots movement with a network of loose affiliations is doing great at the local and state levels such as getting rid of Hatch, Lugar and a number of others in the primary process.
Nationally the Tea Party needs to control the GOP establishment in DC in order to elevate conservative candidates. To gain control the TP needs to flush out the liberals that infest the GOP establishment.
Liberals such as Romney had the money to win nationally in the GOP presidential primary but they won’t win against the democrats in the election because Romney is not popular and he is distrusted. He will be lucky to get 40% of the national vote. His negative ads against Obama will not work because basically the democrats don’t care what he says. He has enough negatives from the point of view of independents and conservatives that he will go down in the Fall.
And for Romney to lose is just fine with the GOP establishment because this entire battle has not been about GOP vs. democrat. This has been about GOP-E and TP. The GOP-E wants to preserve their position in the ruling class versus the country class. They can’t keep their position if a real TP conservative is nominated nationally. Hence, Romney is their guy.
Bachmann is disappointing. She sold out. Fine, there are others. She will come around when she sees the TP winning nationally in 2016 but by that time it will be too late for her. She has maxed out her credibility card.
Have fun watching Romney lose the election.
If it does happen we probably need to look no further that the fellow travelers, closet liberals and liberal trolls here to blame.
Which of those categories do you fall in?
It’s sickening, that’s for sure.
The bipartisan leftist cabal thanks you for playing their game and enforcing their charade. Sorry, Hoss. No sale.
You need to increase your medication and vote for a write in candidate. Yep that will get rid of 0bama all right. Why didn't I see that before?
Are you still yapping away ? You Willardfanbois need to get a life.
You need to quit humping peoples’ legs here on FR and go back to DU. That’s where the people who want 0 reelected hang out. Your constant attempts to get 0 re-elected are embarassing - I point that out because you apparently lack the wit to see it yourself.
Speaking of humping legs... Do you always jump on cue for the big gubmint Socialist establishment naturally, or do you get paid for your “work” ? I figure if you’re going to debase yourself for such an execrable cause, you might as well get a few bucks. As for me, my soul ain’t for sale. Ain’t enough money in the world to pimp for Zero in Whiteface.
Since you obviously live in a delusional world (you handle gives a pretty good hint) It's not worth my wasting my time on you. Don't you have some 0bama signs to post - might get you out of your mother's basement.
Like I said the first time, you Willardbots REALLY need some new material.
There is no doubt that Milt is a bad dream, a very bad dream. But little barry bastard commie is the nihghtmare so bad you’re afraid to go back to sleep! (stole that from a brilliant freeper ...)
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