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To: Smokin' Joe
As a practical question, how does the government count the people who are not receiving unemployment benefits? There are no people getting a check, so how do they keep track of people no longer in the system?

Please check the link to the FAQ's I posted in my #13, that started the parade of my admirers.

I'm not going to let a bunch of loud-mouths keep me from helping you to understand that unemployment compensation has nothing to do with the calculation of the unemployment rate. And to summarize, it's because not everyone is eligible for it.

So, if you are looking for a statistical snapshot of the population, in order to be scientifically valid you cannot limit the population you survey in that way (again, for reasons the BLS discusses in #13).

Well, you always could, but you would introduce bias. Now, that is completely a separate issue from the other ways that the BLS introduces bias into the calculation of the unemployment rate. But you shouldn't complain about oranges by talking about apples.

46 posted on 05/06/2012 5:50:51 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Smokin' Joe; 1rudeboy
Abbott and Costello explain unemployment

Basically, guys like rude don't want you to believe your own lying eyes:

COSTELLO: I want to talk about the unemployment rate in America.

ABBOTT: Good "subject". Terrible "times". It's about 9%.

COSTELLO: That many people are out of work?

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: You just said 9%.

ABBOTT: 9% Unemployed.

COSTELLO: Right 9% out of work.

ABBOTT: No, that's 16%.

COSTELLO: Okay, so it's 16% unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, that's 9%...

COSTELLO: WAIT A MINUTE. Is it 9% or 16%?

ABBOTT: 9% are unemployed. 16% are out of work.

COSTELLO: If you are out of work you are unemployed.

ABBOTT: No, you can't count the "Out of Work" as the unemployed.  You have to look for work to be unemployed.

COSTELLO: But ... they are out of work!

ABBOTT: No, you miss my point.

COSTELLO: What point?

ABBOTT: Someone who doesn't look for work, can't be counted with those who look for work. It wouldn't be fair.


ABBOTT: The unemployed.

COSTELLO: But they are ALL out of work.

ABBOTT: No, the unemployed are actively looking for work...Those who are out of work stopped looking. They gave up. And, if you give up, you are no longer in the ranks of the unemployed.

COSTELLO: So if you're off the unemployment roles, that would count as less unemployment?

ABBOTT: Unemployment would go down. Absolutely!

COSTELLO: The unemployment just goes down because you don't look for work?

ABBOTT: Absolutely it goes down. That's how you get to 9%. Otherwise it would be 16%.  You don't want to read about 16% unemployment do ya?

COSTELLO: That would be frightening.

ABBOTT: Absolutely.

COSTELLO: Wait, I got a question for you. That means they're two ways to bring down the unemployment number?

ABBOTT: Two ways is correct.

COSTELLO: Unemployment can go down if someone gets a job?

ABBOTT: Correct.

COSTELLO: And unemployment can also go down if you stop looking for a job?

ABBOTT: Bingo.

COSTELLO: So there are two ways to bring unemployment down, and the easier of the two is to just stop looking for work.

ABBOTT: Now you're thinking like an economist.

COSTELLO: I don't even know what the hell I just said!

53 posted on 05/06/2012 10:52:37 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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