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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!


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KEYWORDS: 2012; adminlectureseries; bachmann; cain; elections; freepathon; freerepublic; freerepublichistory; gingrich; gop; gope; jimrobinson; newt; obama; perry; prayer; romney; santorum; teaparty; truce
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To: knews_hound

Why are you here pleading your cause? while on that other site where they bash FR and the people here?

I visited that site when it was linked....It’s funnier then all get out they have to borrow from Jim’s site in order to have something to talk about amongst themselves.

Maybe that’s a preferred place for you..but then you decide...Choice...a Wonderful Freedom.


1,001 posted on 05/04/2012 6:06:43 PM PDT by caww
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Cool, I’m in pictures now.



No worries.. It is one of the few copy/pastes that is positive.. you are on the positives list ;)
1,002 posted on 05/04/2012 6:06:43 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: bboop

Thank you very much, bboop!!


1,003 posted on 05/04/2012 6:10:22 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: buffaloguy

No, I will not vote a straight Republican ticket. That is how we got into this republican progressive nightmare.

It is time for the GOP to fail. WE have 4 years to bring a new and fresh leadership to the table...

The question is will we squander that opportunity to the sound of joyeous naysayers?


1,004 posted on 05/04/2012 6:10:47 PM PDT by EBH (The redistribution of another man's money, does not create wealth for the "greater good.")
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To: Bikkuri; GeronL

Is it OK to call someone godless because they will vote to oust Obamanation..and therefore for for the Republican nominee?


1,005 posted on 05/04/2012 6:11:12 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: bt-99

Thank you very much, bt-99!!


1,006 posted on 05/04/2012 6:11:47 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: MEG33

That’s the difference between connotation and denotation. Really, this is shaping up to be a battle of the unbelievers. Obama AND Romney. Choose a poison, or boycott the process, but do something.


1,007 posted on 05/04/2012 6:13:29 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Amerigomag
vote for the most conservative candidate



And who, in your opinion, would that be?

We don't know which is "more conservative" between Roboma or Obamney...


Ok, forget that Newt is in this comparison.. don't even think about any other person that ran..... compare the record of Robama and Obamney:



1,008 posted on 05/04/2012 6:14:30 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: caww
I clicked the link and two thing became quickly apparent:

One was they have enough sour grapes to make a large vat of fine whine.

The other was, as much as the claim to detest this site, the lurk here a lot.

1,009 posted on 05/04/2012 6:15:09 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: Bikkuri

By all means write in Newt (if that can be done without voiding the ballot — check your local election law and then hope it doesn’t get FloriDUHed).


1,010 posted on 05/04/2012 6:15:49 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Thank you very much, Colonel_Flagg!!


1,011 posted on 05/04/2012 6:16:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: jch10

Great job!! Thank you very much, jch10!!


1,012 posted on 05/04/2012 6:18:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: MEG33
I never (ever on FR) claimed anyone Godless...

Claim to back that one up?
1,013 posted on 05/04/2012 6:18:43 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: caww

Well there is another choice less lefty than DU or the Huff. It’s Townhall.Com .

Both it and here have their own special virtues. FR digs very deep. TH is more open to screaming liberals (but by that creates the opportunity to argue publicly with them).


1,014 posted on 05/04/2012 6:19:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Jim Robinson

“To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.”

Agreed. The goal now is to defeat that Marxist homosexual agenda-pushing pig who usurped the presidency and the White House. Nothing else matters.


1,015 posted on 05/04/2012 6:20:34 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I’ll be voting to oust Obamanation and for the best Conservatives down ticket.


1,016 posted on 05/04/2012 6:21:17 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Finny

‘That you choose to be offended by the fact that they explain and stand by their convictions...”

The scenario you describe has nothing to do with the kind of nasty, “you’re-a-Godless liberal and I’m a chosen one” comments I was referring to, although perhaps your imagination enables you to convince yourself of that. They’re not a secret. I’m hardly the only one to notice.


1,017 posted on 05/04/2012 6:22:03 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Bikkuri

No it wassn’t you who did . Just wondered if you thought that was off limits, too.


1,018 posted on 05/04/2012 6:23:21 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I do not believe unity will be gained towards what to do about Mitt Romney. If there can be a detente with mutual respect between the never Romney camps (JR is in it) and the possibly Romney camps (like me) without feeling the need to harangue and troll, maybe progress can be made. If Mitt Romney manages to (figuratively) strangle Barack Obama with a pair of his magic long johns, well I won’t weep for Barack. But then I probably will begin to groan over Mitt’s wild hairs which could make a fur coat.


1,019 posted on 05/04/2012 6:24:17 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: Qbert

Thank you very much, Qbert!!


1,020 posted on 05/04/2012 6:26:40 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: EnglishCon
I post on TBL. I am a proud newbie there. Is it now a crime to post on another website?

Well they do bash Jim and FR relentlessly on that site ....yet you then come into Jim's House, thinking you should be received as a guest, and sit at his table??? Why not just go to a site who doesn't bash your friend here?

BTW I dont' ever remember Jim telling anyone who they have to vote for. Your mistaken to suggest he has.

1,021 posted on 05/04/2012 6:27:08 PM PDT by caww
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To: MARKUSPRIME

>>>So you openly say you are voting for Obama. Thats nice, DNC troll...

Um, yeah... welcome to Free Republic, newbie.


1,022 posted on 05/04/2012 6:27:24 PM PDT by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: CharacterCounts
I clicked the link and two thing became quickly apparent:



Likewise, if you're talking about the site I am thinking..

1) Don't mention it here.. they cream with attention (not going into detail)..

2) It gives them support from us($$$)...

3) Their envious/hate/angry/troll minds are satisfied that they know that we even bothered to look..

4) They can say, "look, we are noticed.. and are important!"

5) They enjoy starting more bonfires here...
1,023 posted on 05/04/2012 6:29:21 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: MNlurker
"Basically we need to have a conservative primary before the Republican primary..."

Best idea I've seen in a long while!! We conservatives and tea party patriots should do exactly that!!

1,024 posted on 05/04/2012 6:29:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: humblegunner; Kevmo

...”I’ll be voting against Obama, voting for a conservative.”...

” That only counts if you vote for someone who is actually running.”

Well actually they have to be “registered” as running. But every state is different on if or not your vote counts or not.

People will check their own state and determine which way they can go.


1,025 posted on 05/04/2012 6:30:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Thank you very much, JLAGRAYFOX!!


1,026 posted on 05/04/2012 6:30:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Townhall.Com



Sadly, some of their editors are moving left too :/
1,027 posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:14 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: GonzoGOP

Thank you very much, GonzoGOP!!


1,028 posted on 05/04/2012 6:34:50 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree with you entirely. I will never forgive or forget what Romney and Paul have done on the eve of the most important election in US history, but that’s small potatoes compared to what Jew hater Obama has in store for all of us.

Will I forget Romney’s pro-abortion, pro-homosexual, pro-statist past ? No. I’ll be watching him like a hawk if he wins. I still don’t trust him, and odds are, I never will. At the same time, I’m not willing to risk four more years of Obama and his Reign of Incompetent Terror.

This is a nightmare scenario to be sure. I hate to be put in this situation, but I have no idea what to do from here on out. I’m at a complete and total loss. This is the ultimate lose-lose proposition.


1,029 posted on 05/04/2012 6:35:35 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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To: OB1kNOb

Thank you very much, OB1kNOb!! Prayers up for America!!


1,030 posted on 05/04/2012 6:37:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: MEG33
Just wondered if you thought that was off limits, too.


I know a few "atheists" who still have moral values.. few and far between... If they support Conservatives who want to fix the problem, I have no problem with that.


RoBama/Obomney are FAR from Conservative...
1,031 posted on 05/04/2012 6:38:21 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

Quite so. There is no appreciable dissent towards Mitt Romney among their official columnists, and threads can’t be created about arbitrary things. However many private commenters there are adamant about such dissent.


1,032 posted on 05/04/2012 6:38:45 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: steve8714

Thank you very much, steve8714!!


1,033 posted on 05/04/2012 6:39:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: CharacterCounts
One was they have enough sour grapes to make a large vat of fine whine..... The other was, as much as the claim to detest this site, the lurk here a lot.

I laughed like mad to see they actually lift peoples posts from here so they can comment on them there!!! What does that say!

They have to lurk here...there's nothing there. But I was surprised to see some there bashing Jim the way they did, who I had become acquainted with here...I thought higher of them then that. But I'll be cautious if I see them back here now.

1,034 posted on 05/04/2012 6:40:40 PM PDT by caww
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To: Monterrosa-24

We are the resistance!!


1,035 posted on 05/04/2012 6:40:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: FReepers
This is FreeRepublic!
TEA Party On!
Defeat the RINOs and Rats!


The Place for Conservatives
TEA Party patriots unite! Freedom is never free and it's messy. !


1,036 posted on 05/04/2012 6:42:25 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I literally had my stomach in an uproar over the only viable choice left stahding..It took awhile but I am so committed of getting rid of the anti American NO bama..I know my only option is to vote to oust Obama.

We must turn out for the best conservatives downticket, too..Keeping Romney’s feet to the fire is a must.


1,037 posted on 05/04/2012 6:44:00 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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To: Savage Beast

Thank you very much, Savage Beast!! GO, Newt!!


1,038 posted on 05/04/2012 6:44:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: caww

IT irritated me that they were more concerned about what was happening here than with the government situation itself... spoke miles upon miles to me.. Their priorities are in the wrong place..


1,039 posted on 05/04/2012 6:45:49 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

I looked because once it was revealed those bashing FR, and Jim, also posted here...I want to know who two faced people are.

It was difficult reading some of their comments.....definately sour grapes and then some...but even so to see some there speak as they did was appauling to me.


1,040 posted on 05/04/2012 6:46:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: Paradox

Thank you very much, Paradox!!


1,041 posted on 05/04/2012 6:47:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Syncro; campaignPete R-CT; y'all
How different this campaign would’ve been with Sarah in the race. The difference between day and night, good and evil!! She is a campaign dynamo!! Twenty thousand plus turn out in Searchlight Nevada, pop 107!! Do you miss her yet?
Wonderful link!

Thanks very much for the you-tube link! Heck yes, I miss Sarah Palin. She truly is the absolute best.

We all have to stay healthy, so we can see her sworn in as our president, should she ever decide to run.

Syncro will see his pings. He's in Texas tonight with TPX.

Had Sarah run, we would have been so raging mad at Romney with his vicious attack ads on her.
1,042 posted on 05/04/2012 6:48:19 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t think I’ll be able to stomach a vote for Romney, but I take no pleasure in watching as those who choose to vote Obama out are eaten alive on this forum for all to see. Good call, IMHO.


1,043 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:02 PM PDT by dubyagee ("I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.")
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you very much, Servant of the Cross!! God bless.


1,044 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: caww

That’s really low down. It’s one thing to go on a different board and cheer about Romney like he was the next Messiah or something... and another thing to chew cattily on Jim Robinson.


1,045 posted on 05/04/2012 6:52:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: caww
I looked because once it was revealed those bashing FR, and Jim, also posted here...I want to know who two faced people are.

It was difficult reading some of their comments.....definately sour grapes and then some...but even so to see some there speak as they did was appauling to me.
No worries.. I looked too.
VERY Childish posts there, I wish they could see how immature they look. They have NO idea of the mistake they are making.. and let them call me an idiot "with no IQ", or whatever else they want to... I am biting my tongue to keep my thoughts of them descent, unlike them..

Anyway, it seems that there are a few of us who understand the effect of what is to come (either way).. I just pray that there are enough of us to make a difference.
1,046 posted on 05/04/2012 6:53:19 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: HiTech RedNeck
FR digs very deep.

Yes they do and why I come here...I did try other sites initially but they lacked the depth, and frankly didn't have all this site offers....plus I like how easy it is to navigate...lots of choices as well. Links are great and the list can go on...so this is the it for me. (though I do read comments from some news articles, but I don't post there.)

1,047 posted on 05/04/2012 6:53:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: MEG33

A Romney foot fire keeping club needs to be created. We can yack about that all day and night and Mitt never hears a whisper. He needs to get earfuls and earfuls.


1,048 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: b4its2late

Thank you very much, b4its2late!!


1,049 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: MEG33

It is what is, I’m afraid. We lost. We took our best shot and we lost. It sucks to admit it, but we lost.

Was it a fair fight ? No. Did RuPaul and his Useless Idiots stab the Conservative Movement in the back once again ? Yes. Did the RINOs get their way once again, despite not having the backing of the Conservative base of the party ? Yes. None of that will EVER be forgiven or forgotten by me.

But in the end, we have a responsibility to our children and and grandchildren to make sure Chairman Obama is on the C-Span circuit four years early. We have a responsibility as Americans to restore the Republic. We cannot do that while the foul, dog eating commie pig in the White House.


1,050 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:50 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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