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Frank discussion re our loss to Obama/Romney and the future direction of FR and tea party movement
Click here to pledge your support! ^ | May 4, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 05/04/2012 6:31:27 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

My FRiends, we might as well face the reality that we the combined pro-life conservative movement and tea party coalition have lost this round (the presidential election) in the larger battle to reclaim our constitution and our inalienable rights. Rove, Romney and the GOP-e have successfully destroyed and driven off each and every pro-life conservative tea party candidate from the race and all have surrendered to the Romney camp. It is no secret that Romney is not one of us. There is absolutely no doubt that he has never accomplished a single conservative thing in his entire political career (one term as liberal governor of liberal Massachusetts and six years campaigning for president). In Massachusetts, he undeniably championed abortion, gay rights, global warming, gun control, big government statist mandated/socialized health care programs, liberal judges, TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending, debt limit increases, etc, and even though he's recently claimed a complete reversal in political beliefs and no longer despises pro-life conservatives or the time of Reagan-Bush, I still don't trust him. He still stubbornly holds on to some of his statist beliefs, like global warming, gays in the military, RomneyCare, stimulus spending, etc, so there is no way I can vote for him or join Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or any others who are endorsing him. But I will not act on my prior promises that I would actively campaign against him if he wins the nomination. Our combined movement is already torn and splintered and is going to have to be mended if we're going to have any impact whatsoever against the liberal/progressives and statists after the election. To that end I propose a TRUCE among our conservative forces during the remainder of this election cycle.

We conservatives have already lost the presidency to either the Dems or the GOP-e, and if we tear the tea party apart, if we tear the pro-life movement apart, if we tear FR apart then we lose it all. It's far more important that we re-unite and live to fight another day. Even if we can't vote for a true conservative for the presidency, it's doubly important that we all turn out on election day or sooner and drag our friends, neighbors, relatives, co-workers, etc, to the polls to vote straight conservative for every slot on our ballots. The only way we can win our freedom back is to vote out the liberal progressives and vote in as many liberty loving conservatives as is humanly possible into every elected office at every level of government all across this great land. To prevent a total loss to the dems or GOP-e, we must continue the tea party rebellion into November and beyond. Whatever else you may do, you must turn out and vote straight tea party conservative down ticket!!

We must continue expanding our inroads into the state houses and into every elective office in the land. We must continue building on our majority in the house and we must retake the senate!! We must help the conservative governors and state legislatures to fully restore the ninth and tenth amendments and reclaim the real political power away from the federal usurpers and return it to the states and the people per the constitution!! This way, regardless of who wins the presidency, we can cut his unconstitutional expansionist movements off at the knees. And if any executive, civil officer or judge dares commit impeachable offenses, we must hold the majorities so we can impeach and remove them from office!!

And we must salvage and rebuild and continue strengthening our conservative pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-borders, pro-constitution, pro-small government, pro-defense, pro-liberty movements and our tea party coalition. And we must stop ripping each other apart!!

Therefore I hereby propose a general truce among our conservative forces!!

The Republic we save may be our own!!

As far as FR's finances go, we're in the same boat as the rest of the economy and will have to make do with what we can raise. Fortunately, the big debts we ran up a couple years ago have been paid off. We borrowed approx $20,000 a few years ago from two FReepers to fund our national convention, plus we ran up another $20,000 in legal fees during the last couple of years fighting off Righthaven. But those are now behind us and paid off. We also did quite a bit of traveling each year for the last three years on cross country tea party tours, but I think we can now cut that back and remove it from our budget requirements. If we're fortunate enough to not incur any additional legal costs or equipment costs (other than what we've already planned), and cut the travel and a few other areas, we should be able to tighten our belts enough to weather the storm even if we fail to reach our short term fundraising goals.

Whatever the outcome of the elections, we are prepared to roar into 2013 with the tea party chewing up liberal/progressives and RINOs and raising hell in our never ending fight for liberty!!

We are the resistance!!

Let's take the enemy head-on instead of fighting each other!!

Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead!!


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To: Paradox

Thank you very much, Paradox!!


1,041 posted on 05/04/2012 6:47:03 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: Jim Robinson; Syncro; campaignPete R-CT; y'all
How different this campaign would’ve been with Sarah in the race. The difference between day and night, good and evil!! She is a campaign dynamo!! Twenty thousand plus turn out in Searchlight Nevada, pop 107!! Do you miss her yet?
Wonderful link!

Thanks very much for the you-tube link! Heck yes, I miss Sarah Palin. She truly is the absolute best.

We all have to stay healthy, so we can see her sworn in as our president, should she ever decide to run.

Syncro will see his pings. He's in Texas tonight with TPX.

Had Sarah run, we would have been so raging mad at Romney with his vicious attack ads on her.
1,042 posted on 05/04/2012 6:48:19 PM PDT by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I don’t think I’ll be able to stomach a vote for Romney, but I take no pleasure in watching as those who choose to vote Obama out are eaten alive on this forum for all to see. Good call, IMHO.


1,043 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:02 PM PDT by dubyagee ("I can't complain, but sometimes I still do.")
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To: Servant of the Cross

Thank you very much, Servant of the Cross!! God bless.


1,044 posted on 05/04/2012 6:50:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: caww

That’s really low down. It’s one thing to go on a different board and cheer about Romney like he was the next Messiah or something... and another thing to chew cattily on Jim Robinson.


1,045 posted on 05/04/2012 6:52:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: caww
I looked because once it was revealed those bashing FR, and Jim, also posted here...I want to know who two faced people are.

It was difficult reading some of their comments.....definately sour grapes and then some...but even so to see some there speak as they did was appauling to me.
No worries.. I looked too.
VERY Childish posts there, I wish they could see how immature they look. They have NO idea of the mistake they are making.. and let them call me an idiot "with no IQ", or whatever else they want to... I am biting my tongue to keep my thoughts of them descent, unlike them..

Anyway, it seems that there are a few of us who understand the effect of what is to come (either way).. I just pray that there are enough of us to make a difference.
1,046 posted on 05/04/2012 6:53:19 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: HiTech RedNeck
FR digs very deep.

Yes they do and why I come here...I did try other sites initially but they lacked the depth, and frankly didn't have all this site offers....plus I like how easy it is to navigate...lots of choices as well. Links are great and the list can go on...so this is the it for me. (though I do read comments from some news articles, but I don't post there.)

1,047 posted on 05/04/2012 6:53:46 PM PDT by caww
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To: MEG33

A Romney foot fire keeping club needs to be created. We can yack about that all day and night and Mitt never hears a whisper. He needs to get earfuls and earfuls.


1,048 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: b4its2late

Thank you very much, b4its2late!!


1,049 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: MEG33

It is what is, I’m afraid. We lost. We took our best shot and we lost. It sucks to admit it, but we lost.

Was it a fair fight ? No. Did RuPaul and his Useless Idiots stab the Conservative Movement in the back once again ? Yes. Did the RINOs get their way once again, despite not having the backing of the Conservative base of the party ? Yes. None of that will EVER be forgiven or forgotten by me.

But in the end, we have a responsibility to our children and and grandchildren to make sure Chairman Obama is on the C-Span circuit four years early. We have a responsibility as Americans to restore the Republic. We cannot do that while the foul, dog eating commie pig in the White House.


1,050 posted on 05/04/2012 6:54:50 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (The Right Of You To Be You Is At Stake....Resist Cultural Marxism!)
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To: LibsRJerks

Absolutely nothing stopping anyone from doing that. Thanks!


1,051 posted on 05/04/2012 6:56:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: betty boop

Thank you very much, betty boop!!


1,052 posted on 05/04/2012 6:58:37 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: caww

TH is restrictive and needs javascript to read correctly. Also it gets inexplicably balky about Facebook logins from time to time. (Firefox, on Windows and Linux.)

But... you know, I have to say I miss MurryMom who finally got zotted out of here. Without genuine liberals to argue with, this gets to be a bit of an echo chamber. Could there be a Screaming Liberals forum for this sort of exchange to take place in?


1,053 posted on 05/04/2012 6:59:13 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Mitt! You're going to have to try harder than that to be "severely conservative" my friend.)
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To: dirtboy

JimRobs artcile was well said. The battle royal is coming - the most leftwing President and his minions are running for another term.

They (unions and the left) are after gov Walker in Wisconsin.
We have marriage on the ballot in NC.
We have many RINO v conservative primaries.
And in 2012 we have the oppty to reverse the Democrat Senate.

In 2010, we saw a lot of good candidates win, and it made a difference. Not enough, in part because Obama was still president.
In 2012, we see a lot of up and coming conservatives - Mourdock may beat Lugar, Cruz in Texas may beat Dewhurst - these races matters (also Nebraska).

these races matter - a lot. And disunity or grumbling about the inevitable Romney v Obama choice is pointless and unhelpful.
It is what it is, the saying goes.

“I can see another scenario. A Romney win will entrench the GOP-E socialists in the party. “

Not really. Win or lose, we have the same players and the same power structure in party, with grassroots and the beltway both parts of the party. both the ‘e’ wing and the conservative wings exist and will have to co-exist. Romney may install ‘his guys’ in certain places, but in any case the grassroots will stick to their guns on issues and either Romney governs as the conservative he ran on or he becomes a rump one-termer like GHWBush became when he broke his tax pledge.

The bottom line is that the real hollow victory would be to assume ‘aha we defeated the GOP-e’ when they lose to Obama in Nov. really?!? I dont think so! Everytime we lose the ‘insiders’ want us to move more to the center, not right.

“Every conservative, IMO, needs to make a hard assessment of whether a Romney win in 2012 would be a Pyrrhic victory”

Unless Romney flat out keeps obamacare and nominates a Kagan clone, its wont be a Pyrrhic victory. The real hollow victory will be if we dont sweep in strong conservatves with him to pull him right and solve the problems we face.


1,054 posted on 05/04/2012 7:03:23 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: rockrr

Then I WILL write in Chuck Norris.


1,055 posted on 05/04/2012 7:04:34 PM PDT by L,TOWM (Wite in Chuck Norris for POTUS and tell the power brokers to FOAD.)
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To: jagusafr

Thank you very much, jagusafr!!


1,056 posted on 05/04/2012 7:06:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: smokingfrog

Thank you very much, smokingfrog!!


1,057 posted on 05/04/2012 7:07:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is on!!)
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To: L,TOWM

Check spelling on your tag ;) AND, check your state rules on write ins... Could be that your whole ballot will be trashed with a write in :/ ... ( want to do a write in; am checking my states rules (Texas)


1,058 posted on 05/04/2012 7:08:12 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: H.Bowman

“I don’t remember the hand-wringing on FR over the last president who destroyed the conservative brand (TSA, No-Child-Left-Behind, Prescription Drug Benefit, Amnesty, Harriet Miers, etc.) and brought us the current statist. I admired W on a personal level but he was a disaster for conservatism. Romney I suspect, will be more consistently conservative than W.”

You have an excellent point here. Many on FR havent looked at his agenda and platform - it is indeed more conservative than GWB’s 2000 campaign.

Romney’s flip flops created distrust, but at this point, the best plan is to vote for him then hold him to his promises.


1,059 posted on 05/04/2012 7:12:01 PM PDT by WOSG (Anyone But Obama)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I just looked at my ballot for May 29..It has everyone but Perry on it..I supported Newt but wonder which candidate might have the most Texas delegates to hold Romney’s feet to the fire at convention time..”strstegery wise”. We dropped winner take all.


1,060 posted on 05/04/2012 7:12:30 PM PDT by MEG33 (O Lord, Guide Our Nation)
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